outsider scum with some questions to pose to an entertaining board
Why are /fit/izens obsessed with gains and becoming massive? Aren't smaller athletic builds and diets, as you might see with runners and swimmers, more preferable from a health perspective in every respect? Are your obsessions with putting on mass rooted more in a testosterone-fueled desperation for physical power or sexual fixation than a desire to become healthy? Does looking at yourself in the mirror turn you on?
Why not visit the pool or track instead of the weights, big boys?
Sage
That's why it's '/fit/ - Fitness' and not '/fit/ - Health and Fitness'.
>>34986443
>Why are /fit/izens obsessed with gains and becoming massive?
Insecurity, self loathing, body dysmorphia and an adolescent fantasy that if they get swole enough, everything will be okay in the rest of their sad lives.
>Aren't smaller athletic builds and diets, as you might see with runners and swimmers, more preferable from a health perspective in every respect?
Yes. Straight women also find them more attractive. But the fitness subculture and industry aren't about health, they're about vanity. In the case of /fit/, it's about appeasing the male ego.
>Are your obsessions with putting on mass rooted more in a testosterone-fueled desperation for physical power or sexual fixation than a desire to become healthy?
Obviously.
>Does looking at yourself in the mirror turn you on?
Actually, no. The more swole a fitizen is, the more dysmorphic they tend to be. The only people who really love looking in the mirror are the skinnyfat fags who have been training two months and think they're Mr. Olympia. That's the other end of dysmorphia.
>Why not visit the pool or track instead of the weights, big boys?
See first answer.
>>34986443
Because I love the attention I get from girls without doing anything really just besides looking jacked.
Getting laid never was so easy desu senpai
>>34986543
post pics
>>34986562
Here's one where I've still got that post workout pump in my arms.
Bitches be mirin, son.
>Does looking at yourself in the mirror turn you on?
Yes
>>34986577
what a smokin hot man
>>34986443
>Why are /fit/izens obsessed with gains and becoming massive? Aren't smaller athletic builds and diets, as you might see with runners and swimmers, more preferable from a health perspective in every respect?
It has never been about the health, it's mostly to improve how we look aesthetically and as a medium to vent. And while many of us didnt aspire to become huge and massive from the very beginning, once you start lifting you never feel adequate. When your arms are 12 inches you think about how good you'll look with 15 inch arms. When you have 15 inch arms you think about 18 inch arms. Same reason why few men are satisfied with their dick lengths and it's the same attitude most people have towards money
>>34986443
Frame/bone structure is everything. Swimming and running are better when looking at it from wholistic, healthy approach.
People who lift weights to add muscle to compensate for having a shit frame.
>>34987991
actually running is not the best for you, cycling would be much healthier
>>34986443
I got laid more as a skelly scenekid.
>tight jeans
>black band tees
>dyed hair black (have bright blue eyes, so did look awesome)
Now i weigh 50 lbs more, dress well (but simply), and have a good haircut and get less attention from grills. Oh well
Sorry to burst your bubble but professional swimmers and sprinters train with heavy weights and run steroids.
>>34986443
>Does looking at yourself in the mirror turn you on?
Kind of.
>>34988015
>dyed hair black
really didn't like you faggots
>>34986443
The worst part about lifting is I spend more time looking at myself in the mirror than picking up weights
>>34986443
I want my body to be the breathing image of self-respect and discipline.
When you see me, I want you to think "This guy doesn't fuck around"
>>34986443
Because this board is full of kids and idiots.
1. Aesthetics is a stupid goal. Beauty is temporary and subjective. Strength in mind and body are valid goals.
2. If you're going to the gym for hypertrophy only, you're not gonna make it. By that I mean, make it to 60. Heart disease affects people with roid delts and 10% bodyfat. You gotta run and eat whole grains and get your heart muscle on point too.
3. There's fucking bioscience everywhere here. Working out every day destroys gains. Cardio destroys gains. No post workout shake destroys gains. All bullshit, especially the meal timing one and the 1g/lb protein myth. Utter nonsense unless you're training take a competition level. And you ain't.
>>34986525
>implying you know what women want
>implying women know what women want
>implying women would openly express what they want if they knew it
>>34988934
1. I do
2. They do.
3. They have: http://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/fitness-lifestyle/the-ideal-male-physique-%E2%80%94-what-girls-want-want-guys-want-to-be/
>inb4 "Those are celebrities! That's why women chose them over Frank Zane."
>>34986443
>from a health perspective
>>34986443
>Does looking at yourself in the mirror turn you on?
If I'm semi hard then yes tbqh senpai
>>34986600
This
I've never really been good or proud of anything in my entire life. I was mediocre at teamsports, i was even worse at individual sports, i've always been average height, had average grades, average dick, average looks, i now work an average job with average pay.
Then i found weight lifting, it started out as a hobby but now it's just so much more. People actually come to me for advice and i feel proud of my achievements. It has nothing to do with lifting for girls or anything, its just that for once in my life im actually good at something, and let me tell you it feels great. I know im never gonna be the next bill gates or lebron james, but lifting gives me a sense of purpose and its usually what motivates me while i sit in my cubicle. It's kinda sad, i know, but its better than playing 6 hours of league of legends/wow like i did before.
>not lifting and jogging
>>34986443
you seem to have a decent grasp on fitness vs /fit/ - fitness. do yourself a big favor and stay away from here. i've been trapped here for years and don't know which way my own ass is anymore.
>implying the fastest way to ottermode isn't weight training
>>34986443
Builtmode is the most aesthetic to me.
>>34991521
THIS
>>34991660
built>ripped>otter>BB>bearmode>builtfat>skinny>skinnyfat
the rest are subhuman killyourselfmode.
>>34991730
Built>ripped>ottermode>bb(if natty)>bearmode
All the rest are subhuman.
>>34986577
2 swole 2 control
>>34987972
This so much, when i started out i never wanted to get "big" or particualrly strong! But now i just want to get strong and a bit bigger and i expect that i want to get a bit bigger when i reach my current goal.
Not a bodybuilderesque physique but "jacked" my girlfriend said that she doesen't want me to get "too big" as i were a real skellington when i started and im not even big now, but she loves to touch my muscles.
>this is how i looked when i met her
>>34988118
but professional athletes aren't the subject at hand, here
>>34989808
c:
>>34986525
Lol, straight women might SAY they like the thin build, but that's because that is what the media sells them. I promise you, bigger dudes have a much, much easier time getting laid compared to thinner ones.
>>34992028
>hips as wide as shoulders
im sorry
>>34992212
Yep it's p shitty, but it's better now, actually using my shoulders / lats have made it look like i don't have as wide hips.
>>34992406
its all about that illusion. Good news is you can work lats & delts to change your ratio. Just don't become a t-rex or squat too much.
>>34992199
That's not what the media sells at all. Beefcakes are the staple of almost every Hollywood blockbuster, muscular characters are consistently portrayed as the object of obsession of many girls in shows, every exercise or fitness commercial shows off machines designed for gains and jacked "after" users, etc. Thinner athletic builds are basically not present in "media," much less any depiction of them as sex machines indulging frequently in bitchmongering.
>>34986443
Why is phelphs so good at swimming yet such a shitty person?
>>34992212
I'm always paranoid about this.
My hips are maybe as wide as the bottom of my ribs too
>>34992452
Guess it depends a bit on your definition of "thinner" and beefcake, but the media portrays desirable men as muscular to an extent far below what people on this board tend to strive for.
>>34989788
>thinking that preemptively pointing out an obvious counterargument somehow invalidates it
>thinking that balanced features and facial aesthetics don't matter as much either
>still using poisonous fucking external standards of validation and falling for the idea that you're only as good as your woman tells/treats you
Oh wow.
"Sissification and Political Correctness: The Thread".
>>34986443
>Aren't smaller athletic builds and diets, as you might see with runners and swimmers, more preferable from a health perspective in every respect?
Yes, it is.
>Are your obsessions with putting on mass rooted more in a testosterone-fueled desperation for physical power or sexual fixation than a desire to become healthy?
Becoming massive is actually just some stupid meme gone too far.
>Does looking at yourself in the mirror turn you on?
Yes.
>>34991660
>>34991730
>>34991813
Actually no.
Ripped>built>otter>bb>skinny>bear
>>34992028
>them hips
hopy fuck, haha
>>34992558
>>thinking that preemptively pointing out an obvious counterargument somehow invalidates it
It's a notification that I can't be bothered responding to the banality of this idiotic rebuttal, so don't waste my time with it.
>thinking that balanced features and facial aesthetics don't matter as much either
Great strawman.
>still using poisonous fucking external standards of validation and falling for the idea that you're only as good as your woman tells/treats you
Full retard.
Not all those who post here are obsessed with size and mass but the ones who are seem to have the loudest voices. Maybe they are the most insecure and seek approval from other's and if they can not find it they must force it.
>>34992815
It doesn't matter what women SAY, me and everyone else who has gotten bigger KNOWS, through direct experience, that women prefer men with big muscles.
>at age 22 had slept with 3 women
>started working out
>age 25 now
>have slept with well over 60 women.
>dating a super qt
>my Dad's girlfriend openly touches my muscles every time she sees me
>women always much nicer to me, joke around more
>men respect me more, my opinion has more weight even though im not any smarter
If I get bigger and this stuff stops, then I know I've gone too far. But I don't really see that happening.
>>34992782
God damnit, i'm a person too!
> all these people forgetting that lifting makes you harder to kill
Rippetoe is shaking his head in milk and oats heaven.
You'll never join him
>>34986443
I lift only to give myself something do do once its becomes to cold out to cycle, which was about 1500mi this summer. However skiing starts soon so I'm not sure if ill keep lifting or not. I feel good when I lift and it seems to give me more confidence along with the other benefits of regular exercise. What should I do /fit/?
>>34986443
you can have both. I'm pretty built and have excellent cardio. Mile time is ~5:30 its all thanks to wrestling desu
>>34988015
Scene stuff is always easier, there's a hell of a lot less guys on the scene, let alone attractive guys, and the girls aren't exactly known for being stable people with good self esteems. Look at it this way though, even if you don't get laid as much, people don't think you're a fucking retarded faggot anymore.
>>34991521
capped that
thanks man that is great motivation
Those guys in the op picture look like shit
I guess I have that good old body dysmorphia
>>34993405
Nah, they look pretty bad, like they just worked core and nothing else. Need more shoulder, chest and lats to even start looking good, plus some arms
>>34993652
>>34993405
They are also Olympic altheletes, so
>>34986443
/fit/= ostentatious the board
>>34993652
What rock do you live under?
That is the dumbest person in the world on the right. And the winningest winner on the left.
(Our left/right)
Phelps dominated the pool so completely, and his retard mate didn't exactly sink either.
They are otter mode personified.
Which is why otter mode is no good. You are correct to judge their physiques harshly. But your judgement is erroneous.
>your entire female ancestry is unconcerned by the aesthetics when they see all the gold medals.
Tfw not eating >10k cal daily and still having visible abs.
>>34993682
Yeah, not disagreeing with that, their bodies aren't designed for aesthetics, they're for their sport, and they obviously know more about what's efficient there than I do.
>>34993757
Again, not judging their athleticism, but people who act like otter mode like that looks any good are retarded, it looks unbalanced, but obviously that's not a factor when you're a professional athlete that's got a career based on being as good at your chosen sport as possible.
They still look shit though.
>>34993682
They're Olympic athletes in swimming really fast, not in being shredded as fuark
>>34989788
>tfw when apparently I've got about the ideal physique for most women
>>34989788
/fit/ btfo
You guys better start doing gomad
>>34986600
mirin' are u natty?
>>34988932
>Beauty is temporary
as is strength of mind and body and everything fucking else.
>>34992815
>It's a notification that I can't be bothered responding to the banality of this idiotic rebuttal, so don't waste my time with it.
It's piss-poor and one more indication of your transparent tactic of saying "oh I'm so above that" whenever you can't actually figure out how to oppose something. You're not smart; you're just supercilious.
>Great strawman
Even were it a strawman and irrelevant to the comparison (which it isn't) you're misinterpreting, and generally being a twat.
>Full retard.
And again with the dumbshit pretentiousness. But what do I care. Go on; vote, consume, alimony. Live mediocre and do nothing of meaning, die mediocre and leave nothing behind.
You CAN actually beat the truth into someone, contrary to popular belief. You just have to Ludovico their eyes open and keep showing them a graphic enough example of the shit their beliefs lead to. But it takes so much time and so much out of you. And then you come to the crux of the matter, which is that even if you manage to reeducate them, this is still someone with a mind so cretinous and inane that they could let themselves be convinced that e.g. representative democracy was a good idea in the first place.
It's not efficient to try to convince people like you of anything. You're only useful for raw materials.
>>34986443
>>34986525
Did you seriously make a thread so you could wait 20min and then reply to yourself?
>>34989788
The 1% of women attracted to the last physique would probably have less insecurities than the rest.
I'd rather have the last physique.
>>34987972
body dysmorphia: the post
>>34988913
hate people like you tbqh, i bet you've never taken a drug in your miserable godforsaken life either.
pathetic.
>>34994639
whats that movie??
>>34994766
that's pretty hurtful, anon, you're hurting my feelings, anon, my feelings :^)
But >>34986525 is not me. Really, it's just harmful to discussion and perhaps even disingenuous to assume or state that a given OP is responding to themselves as a convenient soapbox.
>>34996129
Fuck off OP.
>>34986443
>Why are /fit/izens obsessed with gains and becoming massive?
Because of culture, mostly.
>Aren't smaller athletic builds and diets, as you might see with runners and swimmers, more preferable from a health perspective in every respect?
Yes.
>Are your obsessions with putting on mass rooted more in a testosterone-fueled desperation for physical power or sexual fixation than a desire to become healthy?
Absolutely.
>Does looking at yourself in the mirror turn you on?
No.
>Why not visit the pool or track instead of the weights, big boys?
I do, occasionally.
>>34986443
>Why are /fit/izens obsessed with gains and becoming massive?
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>>34986487
BTFO
>>34986443 (OP)
>Why are /fit/izens obsessed with gains and becoming massive?
Insecurity, lack of passions and thinking that we're not really good at anything else. Or just purely because muscles are kinda cool.
>Aren't smaller athletic builds and diets, as you might see with runners and swimmers, more preferable from a health perspective in every respect?
Yes.
>Are your obsessions with putting on mass rooted more in a testosterone-fueled desperation for physical power or sexual fixation than a desire to become healthy?
Of course.
>Does looking at yourself in the mirror turn you on?
No. Although I get into the habbit of lifting up my shirt and looking into the mirror when I'm on a cut.(used to weight 280lbs)
>Why not visit the pool or track instead of the weights, big boys?
I want to, but I have shitty eczema, and I'm at risk for developing arthritis of the everything at a young age.
(Hyperlaxity of the joints, and shitty cartilidge tissue)
I'd love to swim if my skin could handle it though.
Everything i do is to be the best i can be
