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I can see why I've avoided dating so long. It's so fucking painful to face all this rejection, even from fat chicks. This after one year lifting too. I might as well have "loser" stamped across my forehead. My self-esteem is in the shitter and I don't believe I'm worth anything.
Well, at least I get to go to the gym tomorrow work shoulders. I'm trying not to be a sad cunt, but I really don't know how to push through this bros...I need a hug
>>34962451
*hugs *
Girl cancelled a date on me an hour ago. Fuck it, at least I got her number instead of being completely autistic. We're all gonna make it. It just takes training.
>>34962513
I'm truly sorry to hear that. We're all gonna make it
>>34962451
It gets better when you realize women aren't worth all the effort in the first place
On a related note - I went to the gym today, I'm a woman, and I kept all of this griping you guys do in mind. I was thinking I'd like help with my power cleans, since I'm new to them, so I thought to ask someone. Every guy there (like 20...) had headphones on, which made them seem unapproachable, so I didn't bother. So mb if you wear headphones and wish more females would talk to you, you shoudl take leave them at home?
I suppose it wouldn't be worth it if you left them and still were never spoken to, but there's no way to know for certain.
>>34962513
Bro you got her number you did what everybody here wishes they had the balls to do. Everybody's too autistic to even say hi to the qt3.14 at their gym.
Don't feel bad at all.
Keep lifting and keep searching for the qt.
>>34962620
Mate, most guys that use headphones will take them off immediately if you talk to them.
How to get girls
>keep on working on yourself
>put yourself first no matter what
>be honest, do not change your words to impress people
>be sure/confident of what you do and say
>be secure in yourself enough to admit to your short fallings and mistakes
>dont take life so seriously and have fun
>be the opposite of needy
>be fit
Girls just want guys who can make them feel a certain way. If you figure out how to make them feel that way you get girls.
>>34962620
>>34962620
Yeah I never wear headphones and I don't think anyone has ever talked to me in the gym, male or female, unless they wanted to work in or something. I think I just have depression and that keeps people from wanting to talk. It gets to the point where I won't even go near girls because I don't want them to think I'm trying to talk to them. I think I'm just fucked up a bit in the head, desu.
Just a note, even if guys wear headphones most would be delighted to talk to/help you, just FYI. I know I would, even if I was awkward about it.
>>34962661
Thank you I'm saving this. Appreciate it bro
>>34962620
oi vey thats shitty
>>34962513
But oh, I have a better one.
>Know a girl for over a month now
>Sunday we go out, make out, have a great night,
>Monday she fucking tells me she is not ready for a relationship.
>Tuesday we meet, talk shit out. And it seems as we might be starting a relationship.
>Wednesday (Today) she fucking texts me telling me again that she is not ready.
>Gives me bullshit and a half.
>I just told her, "I respect your decision but I'm done with you. Done trying."
Sad things is that I really liked her...
>>34963013
next time don't get all melodramatic with the done trying. Don't be a spaz. Don't get defensive and prickly like a crab.
It's better to just let thing slide. Flow like water.
I've dated several girls before, but you only ever love the one.
>Meet a girl at school in my psych class
>We hit it off almost immediately
>Were practically the same person
>enjoy the same books, movies, tv shows, even video games
>We held the most amazing conversations with each other for literally hours at a time
>She's even fit. Solid 8/10, but her personality made her 9-10/10 for me
>Start developing serious feelings for her
>I know she feels the same way about me
>Both super touchy around each other, long periods of eye contact, she often brings up sexual topics, etc.
>Some of the most deep, thought provoking conversations I've ever had with another human being, even my closest of friends.
>We were walking to our cars after our class got out a week ago(Class ended at 9 and was cold as fuck)
>She's holding onto my arm and were talking about our lives as usual
>I decide I might as well man up
>Tell her that we should be together, after all, we're literally perfect for each other
>She gets really visibly sad, looks like she's about to tear up
>She's signed onto the Airforce and is deploying in a matter of months
>She'd been talking about doing it, but I never thought that she would go through with it
>She grabs me and kisses me
>Almost Immediately pushes away and says that we shouldn't hang out anymore
>I'm in complete shock about what has just happened
>She leaves without saying anything
>I'm just standing there, feeling the most hollow I've ever felt in my whole life
>It hasn't been the same since
>She's impersonal and cold over text and IM, we've spoken maybe a few words since the event
>Every night when class ends we both walk to our cars, separate and alone.
The worst part isn't that I couldn't date her, the worst part is that because of our situation I lost
a best friend. I lost perhaps the one person in the world I had a serious, intimate, meaningful
connection with. I didn't just lose a friend, I lost my god damn soul mate.
>>34962661
> girls want guys who can make them feel a certain way
Damn so much truth, and I think that the autismo that comes out blocks that. Girls want a guy that can hold an effortless witty conversation.
>>34963357
If that's how you feel then go get her. Is the air force going to stop you from trying?
Turned 21 a few weeks ago.
>tfw never had a girlfriend (will probably never have one either)
>tfw still haven't kissed a girl
>tfw virgin
Who would want to date a 21+ girlfriendless virgin?
I have tried but they stop replying or never text back.
I think I'm ugly. Family says I'm handsome. I don't believe them.
Guys guys guys
I have to tell you something
I've been working out for 2 years, and a few months ago, I asked out a gym girl on a date. She was bench pressing. She was really impressed with my physique and my personality. Now she's my girlfriend.
Don't give up, /fit!
>>34963840
pics of her or it didnt happen
>>34963867
nope sorry
>>34963660
She's almost completely closed herself off to me.
>>34963876
Not real then
>>34963705
Almost exactly the same here. But ive made out with two girls.
>>34963705
The chances you're ugly are pretty low. You can be attractive, at least meeting a decent level that's good enough to get girls, if you're fit, have good hygiene, look confident, good sense of humor, etc. Being "attractive" involves a lot more than how your face looks and its diverse enough that you can get to a good level if you're careful and serious about it.
Don't worry about what your mom says bb just become objectively hot and confident
>>34963705
23 here
c'mon step it up
>>34963705
I didn't meet a girl I actually liked who was also into me until 27.
If anything just keep working on yourself. This includes financial gains. Don't let it fuck up your life. I spent too long being depressed instead of improving myself and just feel like I'm a worthless faggot who's not good enough for her now.
>>34963357
>>34963705
GO AFTER HER BOY! GO GET HER
>>34962513
more than ive done. never had a gf still virgin at 21 here. waiting for my acne to clear and by then ill prob be bald. life is hard
>>34962656
sometimes i get so autistic i just forget to take them out. ive even said "what?" to people while they are talking to me but i still have my headphones in playing music.
>>34962451
>mfw one brow
You dont know shit anon
>>34962451
Stop being such a fag and girls might stop treating you like one.
>>34962665
I do this same shit fa.m, youre not alone.
Have lost 120lbs in this past year, I've started to dread whenever a new girl gets hired at my work. It takes at least a weeks worth of shifts of us working at the same time (and them tryana talk to me) before they finally pick up on the fact that I'm an asocial retard who only wants to talk to other humans when my job requires I do so.
Need some help here guys,
I plan on asking this girl out tomorrow because she is amazing. Now if by some miracle she says yes, WHAT THE FUCK DO I ACTUALLY GO AND DO? What the fuck do girls like? Is just getting coffee really ok?
Have a cutie.jpg as thank you.
>>34963705
100% the same here mate, turned 21 a couple weeks back. Thinking about getting a hooker (legal here) if I don't manage to get a girl to atleast go out with me this year
>>34962451
I just had sex with I girl I met three days ago. And I'm an autistic suicidal piece of shit, with zero motivation for anything except for weightlifting.
And I have a pretty bad face from acne scars.
I really don't understand why this happens.
Fuck anon, maybe it's just luck?
>>34963357
>people in the armed forces don't have families
Is she serious?
>>34963155
This tbqh. Good on you forndopping her this early but could have responded with "cool, np. Laters :)"
>>34963013
>>34963155
Yeah this guy gets it. You should have left it as a simple "Okay". All the other shit makes you sound like some wounded beta faggot.
>>34963705
Didn't get my first kiss until I was 23. Lost my virginity to the same girl. There's still hope for you.
>>34963705
Turning 21 next month senpai, you're not alone. Ive just kind of given up at this point...I don't even have friends, I'm a loser working retail, dirt fucking poor still wearing handmedowns I've had since middle school, so what's the fucking point in even trying? Girls are attracted to status, and I'm firmly stuck in the lower class.
I've personally decided to pursue the life of a spiritual/shaman/druid-type, as I've always loved nature and animals and all that homo hippy shit. Have another 50 lbs to lose before I can sign up with the Navy to see the world('s oceans). After that the plan is to go to college, hopefully get a decent job, and spend the rest of my life traveling the world when I can get extended time off work, or camping and dropping acid/shrooms when I can't.
>>34965128
>>34965128
btw if anyone wants greentext here it is
>be me 18 years old
>hang out with a dyslexic guy in school who has gf with speech defect, shes hot tho
>she brings her friend with her
>we chat and go get some coffee
>i rarely talk, but people think im mysterious because of it
>i sometimes get into conversation when it's flowing, back away when its awkward
>start talking to the other girl
>nonchalantly place my hand on the armchair so she sees my biceps
>see her bite her lip
>"hey guys why don't we go out have a drink"
>"good idea anon"
>we go out and buy some liquor
>she sits on my lap
>kiss her
>start making out
>this is great! I'm gonna do heroin on the weekends now!.jpg
>we all go home
cont
>>34965224
part 2
>next day
>new message
>"hey anon wanna go out today?"
>"sure why not"
>"where do we meet?"
>"ill come to your part of the city"
>"oh okay"
>i come to her part of the city
>she goes out
>we start walking
>have some awkward chat
>"so anon... i have a question. are we gonna go get some coffee, or we'll save money and come to my place?"
>"well I don't have any money so lets go to your place"
>"k"
>we go to her place
>turn on some music
>talk about our mutual interests
>talk goes pretty slow
>start making out
>take off her shirt and bra
>kiss her whole body
>start to unzip her pants
>"anon I don't want this"
>I stop and sit up
>"okay"
>hug her
cont
>>34965233
>she starts telling me how she was raped long ago so she's afraid of it
>okay
>we start talking some more
>after some time I turn on Tool (the band, check it out on youtube, they're great)
>start making out again
>grinding through the clothes
>faster and faster
>lick her neck
>lick her ears
>she's moaning already
>start sucking her breasts
>she grinds faster
>kiss her neck again and start going down
>lower and lower
>get to her bellybutton
>unzip her pants
>take off her panties
>lick her off for about 20 minutes
>take of my pants
>"do you want this?"
>"YES ANON"
>putmypenisinsideher.jpeg
>start fucking
>lasted for an hour
>pull out before I cum
>go to toiled
>wash the cum
>go to sleep
>wake up, breakfast is on the table
>"goodmorning anon" she smiles
>oh, such a perfect day...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYEC4TZsy-Y
>>34965236
>>34965233
>>34965224
Sounds great mate. sounds like you made it.
>>34963705
You know how when you walk down the street you'd fuck most of the girls you see? It's not that different for girls, honestly. Usually you just have to make something happen. Meet girls in some sort of context like a shared interest club or something to make starting conversations easier.
>>34962620
>powercleans
>ask random guys to help you
Never und no circumstances ask ''someone'' to help you with an exercise like powercleans.
Unless you see someone doing them and most importantly, doing them right, do not ask these people for help. There are only very few people who know how to perform these exercises properly.
As for the headphones, everyone will take them off, if you ask them something.
>>34963705
>didnt kiss a girl until 17/18
>Fucked same girl at 18
>She 21 with experience
I used to feel just like you, now I feel better since I got that out of the way.
>>34965108
Shame nobody replied, but better late than never. It doesn't really matter what you do, it is more importantly to keep the conversation you have with her going.
It is important that she isn't the center of the universe in your conversation. You can ask her stuff but try to not come of as needy. Talk about yourself, tell her about your hobbies, about what you ate yesterday, about your friends it doesn't matter at all.
When you talk, she must feel that you are confident. You have to talk like the sandwich you ate yesterday, was the best fucking sandwich that ever existed. As long as you make sure that you seem confident to her (you don't even have to be confident, just good at lying), everything will turn out fine and you'll surely meet again.
>>34965236
>doesn't want to because of rape
>5 minutes later she's perfectly fine for it
>first time
>last an hour
Not sure I believe tbqh f4m
>>34965108
Movie?
To a coffe where you can also get a meal
just walk in a park?
the mall?
I believe you just want to sit down with her and talk, anything that may help with that
>>34965108
Go ice skating fa m
>>34964879
Iktf
>Almost have visible abs for the first time in my life after losing over 30kg
>Acne is clearing up
>Good job
>Going grey at 20
>About 30% of my hair is white or grey
JUST
>>34965250
Thank you anon.
Things like that make life worth living. It's all in the pleasure.
I could just as well do heroin lol.
>>34965315
So the basic shit actually alright to do?
>>34965304
It wasn't my first time man. I don't know if I wrote that anywhere? My mistake.
And she was raped a long time ago so she said she was afraid to do it with strangers, not afraid of it overall.
But wait, what am I doing? I'm defending my story on the internet? What's the point? Everyone will think it's made up anyway...
>tfw you finally open up to someone and eventually get turned down again.
>tfw getting backstabbed
Why always me brehs... Why
>>34965366
I just assumed it was your first time, man, due to the nature of this thread.
Don't worry, I believe you now......
>>34962451
I'm in a new-ish relationship with this girl.
She's at what I'd term 'my upper limit' for what's an acceptable weight for a girl. She's on the heavy side of 'fat' but not really borderline obese.
She's really introverted and self-conscious about her body (she still won't take off her shirt when we have sex, wtf?). I know it's only gonna keep going one direction concerning her weight if she doesn't do somethng about it.
What do I do?
>>34965401
What do you look like?
>>34965488
5/10 face - skinny to otter-mode
My problem with dating isnt that im autistic or hideous - i look okay and socialise well - but that i am almost never attracted to anyone.
I dont even know if im straight or gay anymore, i have practically zero sexual attraction. I jerk off fine, like 3 times a week, but i never pop random boners in public or crush hard on people I know.
I just dont know wtf im doing. Ive started 1 relationship with a girl and 2 with another guy, to see if maybe i would grow to find them hot, but it never happened and i dumped them all after 2 weeks.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME
>>34965523
Do nofap, you're gonna want to fuck everything with a hole. I promise you that's the problem.
>>34965523
What are your tastes in porn like? You could be desensitised to 3d desu
>>34965508
Are you in in this relationship because you like this girl or just because society dictates that having a gf is the done thing, or are you just that desperate because you don't believe you'll feel nd anyone else?
If you like the girl then stick with it, when you're comfortable enough to tell her you think she needs help with her weight than do it.
If you're in the relationship for any other reason then you're only hurting yourself
>>34965552
*find
>>34965397
>tfw I actually have gotten a date with a qt before by going up to her and saying hello
I guess I'm more handsome than I think I am
You all are doing it wrong.
Just focus on yourselves. All the girls and all that shit will come after. Get to know yourself. Do shit that fulfills you. Once you are in tune with who you are, you gain confidence and I don't mean smug bullshit feigned confidence. I mean being comfortable with yourself to the point where you don't really give a fuck what people think, even girls.
Chillax and enjoy your journey to self actualization.
Also dating fucking sucks honestly but if you want to do it, more power to you.
>>34965550
Used to be hentai, then it was yaoi, now its my imagination. I just imagine disembodied sexual organs though, not bodies or faces.
>>34965544
Im not convinced about nofap, it just looks like the placebo effect writ large to me.
>>34965576
breh before i started nofap i felt pretty much like you, now i want to fuck everything
>>34965574
My niggah
>>34963527
In my experience conversation doesn't have to be effortlessly witty, just being able to actually hold a conversation with a cute grill without spilling your spaghetti or being boring as fuck is usually enough because it's something that 90% of guys can't even do, even most normalfag millennials have the social skills of a garden gnome
>>34963705
post your face
>>34963357
My fiance joined the Air Force without telling me, dumped that bitch on the spot, haven't seen her in a year and I regret nothing
>>34963900
You said you have classes with her? I want you to walk up to her tomorrow and explain how this break of communication has left you shattered. Tell her that there are apparently 2 options:
1: Have this relationship and end it when she leaves for the navy.
2: Not have it, be depressed every time you see each other, and lose a great friend because of it.
Both of these end in pain, but 1 of them has a good chance of creating heaps of great memories before it does.
Don't give up just yet.
>>34965236
>starts talking about rape
>put on clothes and leave.
That's as far as I go.
>>34965283
Did she let you come in her?
>>34965300
So, fake it till I make it as always.
>>34962513
use this as motivation to fuel your workouts. One day you'll be out of her league and you will have the pleasure of turning HER down.
>>34966228
Not the one you were commenting on but sombody els
First I never saw the good part about this but now that I have been rejected a shit ton deep down this seems quite pleasureable. Guys I'm really turning into an asshole.
how do i make friends at 23?
>>34965315
>>34965353
Dude, never take a girl to the movies. That is the shittiest date idea in existence. I mean think about it. You're taking her out, and you're going to sit in silence in the dark for almost 2 hours? Take her on a walk or coffee shop where you can actually talk and get to know eachother.
>>34966258
I thought of that aswell, friend suggested going to an arcade because she is a game designer but that shit is in the middle of the red light district (hookers - Amsterdam). I was thinking about ice skating like one of the other guys suggested but I can't skate for shit. So it'll probably just be coffee and somthing to eat or whatever.
>>34965300
I must say, I disagree on that.
Most people like to talk about themselves and doesn't give a shit about you, so it is the best when you keep the conversation about her
>>34965576
just try it out, man.
What exactly are you gonna lose by not fapping for a month?
>>34966244
23 anon here.
I used to think that it would be hard to make friends as I got older but honestly it isn't bad at all. You just need to be friendly with people you encounter.
My friends come from only two things these days. I meet people at the gym (who usually come up asking for advice or something) and I meet people while I'm cruising around on my motorcycle. I've literally made life-long friendships by starting a conversation at a red light with another biker.
You just need to be friendly anon
>>34965574
This guy gets it.
Fuck what others think, find yourself
>>34962451
Same OP. My self esteem was in the shitter for years after my ex left me. After a year of lifting (half natty, Anavar cycle low dose) I was a bit better and had a streak of making out with 5 girls in a row. Then a fat chick rejected me and wouldn't fuck me then kucked me with some other dyel dudes saying I wasn't enough of a bad boy for her.
The dyel dudes were skele junkies and meth dealers. Ever since then I haven't been able to get my groove back. But I look forward to the gym and still believe in Zyzz's message even if it's not working for me right now.
>>34966309
Arcade and ice skating are definite winners man!! Great ideas, I've used them both before. Honestly the fact that you can't skate may make it an even better idea because you'll both be falling all over the place having a great time. Arcade is also great as long as there is a decent one near you with lots of fun games to compete against each other at. In my opinion these two ideas are better than the coffee/restaurant one though because when she thinks about the date afterwards, she'll think about how much fun she had with you.
You seem like you have a good head on your shoulders anon. You'll do fine
>>34962661
This desu lads
>>34966362
>waiting at red light, drinking coffee
>already running late to work
>knock on window
>lower it
>roided guy yells 'hey you gotta come hang with me'
>what
>light turns green
>tail it out of there
>biker follows for a couple miles, tapping my car
>throw my empty wallet at him and merge with a truck on highway
>see him bending down to pick it from rearview mirror
>speed away
thank god i made it out alive
>>34966401
This is absolute gold
I know that feel bro
>be 3 weeks ago
>met a grill
>getting along really well, mutual interests etc
>we both like each other
>things getting better and better
>autismintensifies.webm
>out of nowhere i decide not to see her again and tell this to her
>immediate regret
>tfw i blew my only chance of having a gf for a long time
>>34962451
I think I'm more autistic than I thought. Girl I'm talking to has pointed out how awkward I am and how shy I am and how I have absolutely no game, and I'm realizing it too. She says it's really cute and she doesn't mind at all but I feel like a complete retard. Idk why I even started talking to her because I know I'm bad with women and this is just gonna end bad. I just need to give up, being almost 26 and awkward with girls is just too late to the game.
>>34962620
I am basically king of all lifts at my small uni gym and grills still don't talk to me. I just get mires from dudes who don't understand how I squat so deep and so heavy(lmao 345x5)/tell me it's bad for my knees. I'm really close to 2/3/4/5 on my lifts but I'm like 22% bf 5'11" white, not extremely handsome but not ugly. maybe thats why. Or maybe I'm scary to them. IDK. I really exert myself for lifts so maybe I freak them out when I'm pushing out those last 2 squats/deads lol
What do u think?
>>34962620
You are autismo m80
>>34966452
tell her you changed your fucking mind dude, the only autistic thing here is not saying anything because its weird.. if she likes you she'll love that you told her you want to after some thinking or whatever
HELP ME BROS
>Go on holiday to Poland (I can speak Polish)
>Bored for the first week at seaside
>Aunty tells me to go with little cousins and buy them ice cream
>Ugh, ok
>Go to the bar upstairs, pick ice cream
>Holy shit qt3.14 ginger working at the bar
>Immediately hit it off, I just sit by the bar talking to her all night (not very busy)
>Two nights later go out with her and couple friends from hotel
>Spend the next day with her pretty much all day on the beach
>At night we go to a small wood clearing and just watch the stars spooning
>Fuck, when do I make my move
>Last night, we go swimming in the sea at night
>Getting realllllly touchy, hugging in the water, still no kiss ffs
1/2
>>34966644
2/2
>I can sort of tell she's into me, but she's not giving me 'the' message for a kiss, don''t wanna force it
>after swimming we go back to hotel, jam with her workmate who's on night shift
>sit in front of a log fireplace, cosyasfuck.jpeg
>hey anon lets go on the trampoline
>finally alone with her, middle of the night, on a fucking trampoline
>we lay down and talk, I end up pretty much saying, I like you a lot
>she sort of stalls, sort of sounds unwilling to agree with me
>I say 'Oh sorry, Im being stupid'. Dying inside
>after about 15 mins of lying there she starts nuzzling my jaw, wtf is going on
>finally kiss her, lips so soft, sweet, heart pounding
>shes fucking playing with me, but we end up making out for like 10 mins
>I can tell she cant really kiss, shes had 1 bf for like 2 months so shes defo virgin
>we start getting heated, she breaks off saying 'desu Im not taht kind of girl'
>thats fair enough, spoon and we kiss before she goes back to her room
I then had to leave and we talked a fair amount on facebook but when she started uni she just
completely stopped talking.. I don't think it's because she met someone new, she's really serious about studies so it might be that..
What do? Literally can't stop thinking about her
Anyone had a similar experience with a foreign qt?
>>34962661
Deep down I keep telling myself this. It helps to see it written out by someone else, though. Cheers mate
>>34966705
You're a pussy desu senpai.
You should have made the move for a kiss first day (when you spent the night talking to her).
Things you're failing to understand:
>willingness to offer you so much of her attention is fucking enough of a sign that she likes you
>going for a kiss and being rejected is far better than chickening out (like you did multiple times); grills are almost universally more emotionally intelligent than guys and she could tell every time you thought about it but backed off
>"hey anon lets go to trampoline" is what you should have done like ages ago. provide plausible deniability so that she doesn't have to deal with social pressure
>never tell a chick you like her, that's just so beta; show her with your decisive action. she fucking knew you liked her and by saying it you forced her to acknowledge it and you put her in a very difficult situation
>essence of flirting is the uncertainty if they're serious or just fucking around. this ramps sexual tension until they can't t deal with it anymore
>pity makeout so late is meaningless
>you did not act decisiviely and lost her
Forget her and learn from this.
TL;DR
You're a pussy.
>>34965108
Yes coffee is fine.
>>34966779
>>34966705
>>we start getting heated, she breaks off saying 'desu Im not taht kind of girl'
Oh, and this:
By saying "I'm not that kind of girl" she means "I'm not the kind of grill that sleeps with betas". She would definitely be that kind of grill if you led this interaction correctly. She just doesn't want to lose her virginity to a pussy. Do you blame her?
>>34966811
her actual words were more like 'I dont usually do this' couldnt think of the translation before.
Im pretty sure she just isnt a slut, we knew each other for 5 days, which was something I admired about her
anyone can get with a sloot
>>34966842
>anyone can get with a sloot
except you, obviously.
slut is a meaningless concept. she's only as much of a slut as she FEELS like a slut. by being a beta she did not wanna be with you made her feel like putting out would be slutty. if you were her knight in the shinning armour who swept her off her feet the term slut wouldn't even be relevant here.
It's easier to fuck bitches when you realize they're all whores that don't deserve your money and will jump on any Chad's at the first opportunity, no matter how cute and innocent they look. AWALT.
>>34963705
I didn't get laid until the end of uni (22, 27 now) and felt similar, but since that I've had a pretty continuous thread of partners that have been some combination of sexually and emotionally fulfilling.
You'll get there, put the energy you'd waste stressing about it into doing actual shit. Doing stuff makes you sexier.
>>34966879
I can see your point, but if someone values their virginity, to the point of possibly only ever considering 1 mate for life, wouldn't it make sense that she would be unwilling to give it up within a week?
And it doesnt change the fact that we spoke a lot after holidays too, literally stopped with the start of her medicine course.
That's why I believe there's still an angle for me
>>34966705
>What do? Literally can't stop thinking about her
Move on because she's gone
>>34966975
>That's why I believe there's still an angle for me
No. Not even him but you blatantly fucked up by being too timid. Whether she's found another guy or not is irrelevant because she has already categorized you as a non-sexual entity due to your beta behavior.
>>34965108
How well do you know her? If you're mates ride bikes to a river or a hiking trail or something and bring a picnic, if you're relative strangers go to your city's major art gallery.
Going to a gallery (works best if you're in a larger city and there's something with a large permanent collection) is ace, because you're exposed to a constant stream of new inputs for conversation. You can try and tease out what the curator was thinking in terms of the connections within and between rooms or the shifting styles over a period of time. You can talk about your personal response to individual works, and what vibes and thoughts you get from stuff. Or you can hang shit on [squares from history | the degeneracy of modern and contemporary art].
There'll be a fancy cafe that serves drinks at the end of it, you get an insight into the way she thinks (and to present your own way of thinking) and you seem classy as fuck.
At the other end of the spaghetti spectrum you're also going to a place that's public and observed so it's not like you can rape and murder her, but it's also not so supervised that you need to feel supervised or 'on display' to the public.
DOOO EEEET
>>34965146
>laters :)
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>>34966578
I will try that, but i do not have any hope desu
>>34965552
strong post
>>34966975
>I can see your point, but if someone values their virginity, to the point of possibly only ever considering 1 mate for life, wouldn't it make sense that she would be unwilling to give it up within a week?
She may see it this way conciously, but what she really wants to do is to be carried by emotions when it feels "just right". Nice girls waiting for the one get fucked by alphas all the time because the alpha has the demeanour of "the one".
>And it doesnt change the fact that we spoke a lot after holidays too, literally stopped with the start of her medicine course.
Speaking alot is not good. Speaking alot without pushing the interaction along is bad because it kills mystery. This is how you get friendzoned. She knows everything about you before she is attracted to you, therefore she can't let her mind run wild imagining you as her partner. You have to have solid and unbreakable attraction before you start telling her about yourself in depth. My rule is: unless I've fucked her it's only "need to know" basis. Only time you can get away with talking alot thing is if she's chasing you but even then you can't reveal too much and gotta keep the teasing high.
>That's why I believe there's still an angle for me
There isn't and you're hurting yourself by not letting go. Go fuck another few grills and if you still feel that way than I'm gonna grant you that she's special.
The only way you can recover this is if you fuck a bunch of sloots, get better at interracting with women and stop being needy. Then in a year or so come back and then you'll have another chance to sweep her off her feet if you stop being a pussy.
>>34966779
>>34966811
This is gold. Things to always remember
>>34966452
"in the abstract i don't want to be dating anyone rn, but i do really like you so maybe we can hang out and see where it goes? sorry about being confusing"
>>34962661
Looks like that monk thinking about giving chick the shocker
But we all knew this would happen deep down, didn't we? Even if we repressed it. That even if we got fit, we'd still be the same person trapped inside a different body. The only difference is a *mild* boost in confidence.
How do I into body language/banter/vocal tonality/facial expressions/fashion (fuck /fa/ though senpai)? And I mean... the 'mirin threads... it's just starting to pop up now, that girls express a base level of interest, but I don't know what to do.
>>34962451
All the lifting in the world won't kill the beta.
Seriously, focus on lifting and whatever other shit you have/like to do during the day.
Get shredded, post a shirtless pic on Tinder, and just go about your day.
Pussy will come and go. Your life is yours forever.
>>34962578
This x 100.
Here's how to get women: put 0 effort into getting women
Here's how to not get women: try to get women
Enjoy life
OR better yet, completely serious, you could go gay. If you're lifting and you think you secretly migth be gay, come out. Your quality of life will improve drastically- gays don't go through all the shit straight men have to cause we all put pussy on a pedestal- that's why there are so many homophobes out there, it's deep seated jealousy.
MGTOW
>>34966460
join a hipster/artsy scene and own it, those types of girls love weird quirky dudes
i used to be like that, then i stopped giving a shit and started owning it. i'd get a girl to go on a tinder date with me. we'd meet at a bar and i'd say 'just as a disclaimer, i have literally no game at all, so you're gonna have to help me out'. she thought it was cute and funny. then we fucked.
but then again i'm physically attractive. if you're not physically attractive, become physically attractive. /fit/ helps with that
>>34967209
put yourself in dangerous situations, you'll stop giving a fuck about what people think if you've survived xyz
for me that's boxing and sparring. the way i see it, if you can take hooks to the face by large black men, talking to some tiny bitch and making jokes is a piece of cake.
before i started boxing i didn't know what to say at all. now i just point out stupid shit and say stupid shit. i don't give a phuck and now grills eat it up
>lost my virginity recently
>still kissless
What the fuck lmao
>>34963705
I'm 22 and didn't have my first relationship until a few months ago. And didn't lose my virginity until then too. I'm sure there are girls out there who will date you. Tease them a lot, show personality, ask them on dates, don't be available 24/7, etc. etc. and you'll find someone dumb enough to give you a chance.
>>34962451
>I don't believe I'm worth anything
To whom? All those people who rejected you? Perhaps not. That doesn't mean anything though. Everybody does this all the time. We don't dwell on the people who reject us. I guarantee there are women out there who would want you OP, but don't even focus on that either. You really should be more focused on accepting yourself mang. Why hinge your happiness on what you cannot control?
>>34964896
>this
I assume they are just asking if they can use the bench / weights / if im using something
so I just say no, unless they point at something i actually use then I say yes
>standing next to an empty bench
>not using the said bench
>headphones in
>guy approaches and asks if he can use it
>i say no
>procceed to walk off
Help me /fit/
>see qt. grill on the bus
>decide to man up and ask her out
>despite the spaghetti I ask if she wants to go out for a drink sometimes
>uhm, I don't know...
>literally 0 arguments of conversation come to mind
>uh, ok then
I at least got the courage to ask now, but how the fuck do I into conversation with a complete stranger?
>>34967285
Youre 100% right. When your thinking to yourself "Fuck if I dont get my shit together im as good as dead" its like something just kicks into gear to fight.
Well it does for most men who aren't completely emasculated already. Remember my first near death experience like it was yesterday. I pissed myself and then got through it alive.
People won't listen though maybe a few and thats what its really about...reaching those few who will actually listen to what you're saying.
>>34965147
Not that guy but how do I not sound like a wounded beta? Like, this girl rejected me the other day but now she's telling everyone I'm bitter because I ignored a text she sent me saying happy birthday (I didn't really want to speak to her) and dropped out of a class outing to go see a play that same day (she thought it was because I wanted to avoid her but really I wanted to go for drinks with my mates).
What do?
>talk to girl
>is flirting with me
>don't know how to escalate
>stop talking to girl
>she looks upset
>>34967361
>>34967427
>how the fuck do I into conversation with a complete stranger
>don't know how to escalate
seems like you both have the same problem
>>34962451
Sounds like you greatly over estimate how good of a catch you are. You're probably average or worse looking with a boring/sexist/shit personality and expect actual decent women to be attracted to you. Your face aesthetics thread reveal all. You're all hideous with usually sexist personalities and clueless as fuck. Good women go to good men, you are not good men. You ARE the equivalent of a "fat chick", even a fat chick with good personality is too good for you. Just because you think you look like bale in Batman but in reality look like bale in the machinist does not make you the entitled God you seen to think you are. Good things take work, go work on making your good before dragging you and some other unfortunate soul through the batery of shitty, never learning hour lesson relations because your biases and shit attitude keep you from ever taking responsibility for your own mistakes.
Thanks for he job security you nutjobs in development
>>34967420
Literally ignore it and keep ignoring her. When you see her, smirk/smile and when you see people judging, smirk/smile. Amused mastery is the key to social success and when you walk around acting like nothing bothers you, you look bullet-proof and thats attractive. Like I fell skateboarding in front of a group of girls once, and someone else silly happened, they saw it and giggled. So i got up, smirked at them, walked up and introduced myself. got 1 of their numbers. midway through the conversation they were making fun of my fall you either A: escalate the event or B: ignore it and keep talking
>>34967420
Date someone better looking. You can still be cordial but thats it. Who gives a fuck what she says about you. I have had women call me every name in the book. Why do I give a shit?
Its language. It hurts your emotions huh. No fucker....getting shot hurts. Getting stabbed hurts. You'll get over this.
>>34967460
wrote the comment below you but I agree 100%. I dont think he's at the level to go fuck her friends in front of her face if he's worried about her talking about him behind her back though.
>>34967450
As a man every failure with a woman is your fault.
It's your fault you weren't the alpha she'd drop all her plans to date
It's your fault you weren't the alpha she'd leave her boyfriend for
It's your fault you don't drop panties when you enter the room.
If you failed, learn from your mistake and better yourself. You can't change the past. Just say 'k' and move on.
Be the man women want to be around. Better yet, be the man you want to be around.
how do i quit feeling so needy? i broke up with my gf about a month ago. we didn't date that long but i still felt a little depressed. i did start feeling really happy after a couple weeks though.
she was really angry at me for a couple weeks but now she's acting a little bit interested in me and im feeling very needy but im trying my best not to show it. i made the mistake of coming across as needy at one point in our relationship but made a vow to myself not to do that shit again
>>34967115
That's fair t b h
I have no idea how to not be needy, I've always been more emotional over women I really like
Dunno if banging a meaningless sloot will help, but I've never tried it tbqh so yolo right
>>34967493
you're projecting a lack of 'spark' in your life to another girl,that's why you're needy.
find/make that spark in your life- normally this is a hobby/sport for most men. sometimes it could be that your friends suck and you need to find new ones, i don't know.
Where do I go from here lads?
>>34967516
you need to make improving your life a priority. It sounds to me like you are needy because you want to please her/make her happy or some shit and you get too attached. If you focus on yourself and what makes you happy and what YOU want you will stop being needy.
>>34962451
You have a "shoulder day".
Maybe start using your brain and you through life whilst actually using it and success will come.
You can't win at anything in life without putting at least SOME thought into it.
Same as with lifting. Stop your shitty routine and welcome the gains.
>>34967530
"Good, just posting pics of you and your name on the internet. Wanna spend a couple months in my basement?"
>>34967460
>>34967462
>>34967479
Thanks guys. I'll be honest, this girl was my oneitis so it really fucking hurt when she rejected me and she keeps making jokes about me behind my back. I'm gonna do my best to ignore her shit though. I was involved with a few of her friends a few years ago actually.
>>34967530
>Hi
It's already fucked
>>34967530
read her bio, see if you can make a joke or relate to something in it, if not use a standard opener. ask her if she'd rather hear a cheesy pickup line or can we skip all that? this is of course after you answer the how are you with "fantastic"
>>34967541
I dont have a basement though.
>>34967298
how?
>>34967547
I think shes spanish. Give me a good line im not witty or interesting at all
>>34967542
I was the same way with a girl named sam. Then i came to terms with myself and how i was idiolizing her, worked on myself and next time i saw her she had a sort of mocking smile on/awkward look and i just smiled fully and confidently at her than she started talking to me again, but at this point i didn't care about her at all and gave her my bare minimum attention.
It won't happen overnight, but it will happen once you start realizing how many attractive women there are out there that losing 1 is meaningless.
Listen, don't waste your time with autistic basic shit tier girls from tumblr/tinder/twitter. Find a girl who browses /fit/, /r9k/(they're the worst to date but whatever makes you happy). Wasting time with inbred basic whores who can't understand your feelings or the world overall aren't worth shit. Also a girl who has the same personality/interests as you do will make you make so much more happy because you will feel like this is what you always wanted in life. So instead of trying to get with some fat instagram degenerate who you want to bang, wait or try to find someone who you actually like. Girls who have so many orbiters that they turn guys down one by one aren't worth it. Or don't ever get a girl at all, just remember that they're all whores and none of the shit they say has any meaning(i'll be yours forever, i'll love you forever). They don't mean anything they say and they're all worthless whore. Focus on lifting, and if you feel like you need someone then just fap because a girl takes too much time, emotional feelings and your own power. And when she dumps you, you will feel depressed because of all the memories you had together. So unless you have someone who you could imagine spending the rest of your life with - i wouldn't bother, its all shit and nothing comes out of it, only negative feelings in the end.
>>34967556
>think
i feel like it would be bad to make a joke about it if you weren't sure, because than it could come off the wrong way/she'd be insulted. Idk mang just ask her if she's a beaver cuz dam
Smh tbqhwu senpai just act like you don't give a shit.
May sound fedora but play the "cool guy" because it will piss some women off.
Kind of treat them like shit but be a cocky asshole while you're at it.
Works for me all the time. They come crawling back because it bugs them that I'm not interested.
>tfw in my mind though I'm really like "p-pls come talk to me"
>>34967584
>Wasting time with inbred basic whores who can't understand your feelings or the world overall aren't worth shit.
All women are like that. The only self-aware intelligent girls are the uggo's because they have to be to cope with their shit genetics.
Men are better off going gay or MGTOW in the 21st century.
>>34967589
Im not attractive though.
>>34967589
What the fuck, I leave fit for a couple weeks and f a m gets turned into senpai
I unironically think i want to spend the rest of my life with my brother. Hes the only one who gets me. Is it legal to be incest if its male on male. Mind you i dont think hes into me.
>>34967584
No, this is wrong for many reasons.
>wait and find someone you actually like
here's where this fails, what happens if that girl rejects you? you took so long to find her now she rejected you? you think 90% of people can handle this ego loss? they can't thus begins the descent into beta-ness. Further, meeting girls like that is difficult, and girls like that are harder to game than tinder sluts, without practice off dating websites or working game on other sluts you will be severely harming yourself.
Abundance mentality. There are 15+ potential women for you to fuck at any given time, you lose 1 you find another. Sure you can put most of your effort into 1, but until you've mastered being an alpha, this strategy will NEVER work for those with poor experience.
>>34967611
family >>>>>>>> stupid sluts
once you've internalized that women are whores and retarded life becomes so much more fun
you can say retarded shit to women and not give a fuck
>>34967601
Well you better have something to compensate for it like money, a big dick or an alpha body type that will shut other males out
>>34967626
>Poor
>6'5inch dick
>Skinny lanklet
End me desu.
>>34967572
Thanks man. I'm gonna do my best to do that. Can't wait for this all to be over.
>>34967637
Have you ever had sex? Most women have tiny vaginas and can't take anything bigger than 6''. stop watching so much porn.
I know a black guy who has a massive dick. He literally makes girls bleed when he fucks them and they don't enjoy it cause he's too big.
>>34967542
Dude I had a kid with my oneitis and have to watch her literally get married to a closet homosexual. I love the kid and the kid was made out of love so he's fine but I flat out don't even bother with her unless its something related to the kid honestly.
We moved on and thats life. If she wants to chase closet bug chasers and marry them after what happened to charlie sheen well thats her business. As far as im concerned mission accomplished. You have no idea how good it felt to go watch the Naruto movie with him and explain how it mirrored dragonball z. The look in his eyes just made it fucking priceless and its something that I want everyone here to experience.
When she left I was fucked up BAD but I picked myself up called my brother and went out there and took my fucking lumps just like I do in the squat rack.
Keep your head up brother. This feeling will pass but you have to go out there and take your lumps. I usually don't even get like this on here but you sound like you could use some love so I told my story hoping it motivates you to go complete your own story.
You CAN do this!
>>34967637
6 and a half isn't bad at all family.
I have a 5 and a half and my dick is pretty skinny.
Sucks. I'll straight up tell girls that my dick is small.
They think I'm joking but I tell them I'm completely serious.
>tfw then they ask to see it
>>34967665
Ive only shagged fat chicks but im never able to get fully hard. Probably because theyre fat and im pretty drunk desu.
>>34967619
yeah, i don't think so. I've had 17 girlfriends and i've never been turned down(and i don't even do anything special, just vidya and some shit memes). If you are talking about tinder/okcupid girls then yeah, shouldn't be interested in those girls from the beggining since they have no personality or understanding of life whatsoever
>>34965224
why did you randomly say you want to do heroin because a chick made out with you?
>>34967646
Its over when you make it over, you have the power to decide how it turns out.
>>34967679
thats cool man, im glad for you. But your strategy will not work for 95% of men out there. focusing so much on 1 girl if it turns out she doesn't reciprocate the ego hit and confidence hit is huge.
>>34967622
>>34967622
>once you've internalized that women are whores and retarded life becomes so much more fun
idk seems a bit harsh but then again once i think about all the stupid shit my ex gf believes i just stop caring so much.
>>34962451
quit being a bitch about it change your attitude to " fuck these stupid skanks, they don't want it thats their loss because I'm fucking awesome, matter of fact after seeing these superficial, selfie taking, kardashian watching, brain dead, roasties response why would I want to bless them with my presence?" walk around with your head up looking toward the horizon, not down and keep lifting. Be assertive and confident.
>>34967704
>thinking about your ex
Stop that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2ykmhu/the_guide_to_accepting_yourself_even_when_women/
>>34967717
PERFECT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJbmB9k2Y88
>>34967722
i can't help it breh :(
>>34962451
escorts bro . bang em
>>34965108
get coffee go play putt putt or bowling or some shit in public where you can talk to one another
>>34967516
As >>34967539 said you become non-needy by focusing on yourself and being what you want to be.
Understand that a woman can't fix your life or make you non-needy. For a woman you being in this state is an emotional liability. She cannot improve your life or make you happy, she can only mask the unhappiness and ultimately muddle the water preventing real progress.
You should strive to be intrinsicly happy. Achieve goals, try and fail until you succeed. Be the man you want to be this. Regardless of whether you do actually achieve anything, once you feel you've made progress women will sense this positive emotional state. They will want to share it with you (well, the well adjusted ones, the crazy ones will drag you down, turns out many women don't have their life figured out like many men don't).
When you have emotional value to offer in exchange for intimacy and emotional support then women will be willing to engage you honestly.
What's important is that many of the behavioural mistakes you've made in this case are caused by neediness and will fix themselves automatically when you become the man you wanna be. You did not make a move because you were afraid of a bad reaction. But when you're sure in your own value you will act knowing your own value. You will not even conceive of the possibility of a bad reaction and you will act fearlessly. And a grill won't be able to take her panties off fast enough for you.
Godspeed anon and let go of the polish qt. That ship has sailed.
>>34967800
mfw the women you hit in the gym reveal to you in the gym tell you theyre an escort and you go eat with some tricks money
10/10 laughs every time
I would say hitting them would help you get over talking to hot girls once you bang a few but its gonna cost you. Hell people pay for experience in vidya so why cant you pay for experience in real life and up your own experience
>>34967818
This is why I love this place despite trolls. Every now and then you get a nugget like this that will probably be reposted 10 years from now assuming this place is still around for countless others to see.
He said it far better than I ever could
>>34965304
Being first time doesn't have anything to do, atleast for me.
I'm 21, lost my virginity with a friend this summer and fucked her all night till 6 a.m.
Maybe redtube videos taught me the right way
who's the samefag saying desu in this thread?
>>34962620
>im a GIRLLLLLLL
fuck off. I dont give a single shit you want help, you think i owe you something because you were born with a cunt? Im not going to help and entertai you cutting into my fucking time of working out.
>let me just blindly run into thegym without watching any tutorials LOL IM A GIRL
>>34967251
I feel I'm like a 6/10 and I'm 6'3" 220 like 12% bf . This girl said I was really hot and her friends think so too, so maybe I'm not too bad.
>>34967298
haha same thing happened to me when I lost it, I was 15 though.
Kissing was really awkard after that and I couldn'tunderstand it at the time.
>>34967545
This
Are you really that autist that you only say
>Hi
Later ppl on /fit/ complain that they don't get women, I wonder why
>>34967665
This
Or you can actually watch porn and see how they just do it.
Was useful for me when I lost my virginity this summer, made a 7/10 cum just by penetrating with my 4.8"
Stop believing that if you don't have a 8x6 you can't satisfy women.
>>34967637
literally in the top 5% of the US/UK white population there man
>>34963357
Shes a retard, thinks her life is a romance film. Women like this are beyond stupid. She was only so open and candid with you because she wanted a chaotic love
>>34968077
Oh man.
>Be 22 year old me
>work at a place that is mostly people 35+
>we have one 7.5/10 23 year old qt who works in the main office
>One day wear a suit because of special occasion
>eye fucks me super hard
>"wow. Oh my god. You look amazing today,anon"
>stammer out a "t-thanks."
>as i'm walking off, see her continue to stare lustily in nearby windows
I hate my autism.
>>34967800
>Escorts
I would but 250+ a pop adds up pretty quick.
Maybe when I'm rich.
>>34965108
4/10
You can't date anyone until you're happy being single. Live. Laugh. Love. Notice the order. Girls don't date sad cunts. Being a sick cunt is not dependent on women. But getting women is dependent on being a sick cunt. So become a sick cunt, then get the girl.
https://bookofpook.neocities.org
>>34965574
Easy for you to say mister-I-fuck-girls-just-being-myself
>>34963013
You fucked up. What happens when you maintain a fuck buddy relationship with a girl? She catches feelings. You don't jump from making out to girlfriend status. You barely know each other. You have fun, enjoy life with one another, and eventually when you've shown that you're not needy, the girl will initiate the "so what're we doing" conversation. Better luck next time brah.
>>34963013
My current situation cept for the last part right now
>sad kek
>>34963357
i hope this story is made up, if not i'm so sorry /fit/zen
>>34968379
He fucks girls by being himself because his self is a sick cunt. You don't because you're a sad cunt. When you make yourself a sick cunt, you'll get girls by being yourself. You're trying to jump straight to the reward without putting in the work. Sure you can become a PUA and fake it, but until you live out your dreams and make yourself a desirable person, you'll forever be a sad cunt. Or worse, you'll settle for the first 6/10 that likes you and then get divorced.
>>34965574
MONEY
10/10
>>34966779
>>34966811
>>34966879
>>34967115
How the hell is one supposed to understand what's going on in a woman's mind like this anon does? It's seems so far for my current understanding of women. Is this PUA stuff? Also, when you're in the Heath of attraction for the girl, how do you act manipulatively/coldly thinking of all this stuff? It's all fucking mind games and shit. This is the exact reason why I purposely avoid dating. It seems so hard and "unnatural", like you must act in a way you're not.
>>34968483
See
>>34968363
PUA is essentially faking it, but eventually you revert to a sad cunt. Read this book. Changed my life.
>>34968499
The audiobook is on youtube
>>34968483
PUA is skipping the work. It's acting like a desirable person, even if you aren't one. Sometimes you can fake it til you make it. Sometimes the girl sees through your bullshit and dumps you. Live your dreams, and when you've succeeded, girls will flock to you.
>>34968499
I don't get it. Men have been attracting women for ages without books. Shouldn't it be intuitive and natural ffs?
>>34968532
It should be but we don't know this persons condition so its tough to know. Some guys can hear you talk and not get it but they read it in a book and get it perfectly
>>34966258
Am I the only one that talks to my dates during movies??? Great excuse to whisper in their ears, rub their legs, arm around them, they play with my arms/hair, funny movie commentary to make them laugh. Movie dates are never sitting in silence for 2 hours for me at least.
Y'all need to step your game up
>>34966309
So what if it's in the middle of the red light district? It's not like the hookers will surround you and force you to fuck them
How do you get over someone that you loved for 4 years and dumped you for someone else? I look at other girls and see them as attractive but there's something in me that says I'll never find a perfect fit like she was. I don't really have too much problem attracting girls either but I can't move past the feeling that no other girl can compare or some shit.
>>34968532
That's just it, our society is so complex now that it affects our ability to act naturally. We now have to conform to norms. Women have options, careers, and dreams that they won't happily dismiss for you. This book addresses that, and the options we have to work with.
>>34968554
Works perfect for a second date. First dates for me are for getting to know the girl. I'm passed the point of sticking my dick in someone I'm not gonna get along with in a week. Once I'm sure they're high quality, the movie date is great for initiating physical contact.
>>34968568
No shit but if I want to talk about stuff and all I can see is tits and ass its definetly gonna distract me.
>>34968570
Beautiful thing about that. For every batch of successful career women is a whole new batch of fresh 18 year olds waiting to be molded.
Let them have their careers and go slut it up with countless chads who have ZERO interest in staying with a woman they literally banged in a bathroom or a stairwell in some cases.
If I hit it in the bathroom at a club, no way im taking your ass seriously period. If i could do it, then so could someone else
>>34968592
>not focusing on your girl, and only on her
Brehh
>>34968587
To each their own then. I'm a little more aggressive to show them I'm not afraid. Especially if I'm not looking for anything serious. My first dates though are usually all day. Could be mall, walks, dinner, movie, dessert, and just ends with sitting/talking all in the day.
>>34968449
>you'll settle for the first 6/10 that likes you and then get divorced.
At this point I can only hope this is going to be me some day
Wasn't really my point anyway. I'm lucky being just a 19-year-old virgin but at what point can you start questioning "just focus on yourself, girls will come" and start putting in some specific effort?
I think it's just bs advice in general. Focusing on yourself is great, but doing it to attract pussy is like doing 20 rep sets for strength ;^)
>>34968701
The moment when you first hear about the 7 hour rule and try out the all day date for the first time and shes snuggled under your arm after you two have had sex was priceless. I dig the all day interactions honestly. No way I could go back to the step by step garbage now...
>>34963013
If I did something like this, is if beyond repair?
>>34968852
not the best response you could have had but if she was interested she would tell you
dont sweat it honestly. Hell I slept in the bed with my first girl in college and did absolutely nothing. Ive done plenty of pussy shit in my life. Do not send her any texts about no relationship.
3 months before you even bring that word up relationship....
>view yourself as completely alpha
>convince yourself you only deserve 15/10 girls
>be concrete in the idea that if she's a bitch for no reason dump her ass
>succeed because you've realized how to be alpha as fuck
It's not that hard.
>>34968746
No you're missing the point. You don't work in yourself to get girls. You work on yourself because you're the only one who matters. If you feel the need to have a girl to complete yourself, you're incomplete, and a girl won't fill the void. You need to make yourself jacked. You need to go climb a fucking mountain. You need to go to work and be the fucking man until you're the boss. You need to read what you want, play what you want, learn what you want, and do what you want until you're satisfied with your life. You need to be able to walk through a music festival, short off, jammin to the beats, not even taking a glance at the hotties because fuck them you're here to see your favorite band. Once you do that, talking to a girl is easy, because you no longer ascribe great significance to the situation. It's no big deal if she walks away and you never see her again. You didn't need her anyways. When you're at this point, you're a sick cunt, and you'll never have to worry about effort. It's like lifting heavy weights for years, constantly cutting and bulking, watching your macros, and finally achieving you're goal body. You're trying to get your goal body in a year with test e. Sure you might be able to it,, but you better keep it up forever or you'll lose all your gains. No one said its easy. You wanna skip all the work, so you're right, at this point, your best hope is to settle. I hope you change your mind though.
>broke up with girlfriend of 5 years, lived with me for the past 2.5.
>I will never find another girl like her
>lifting and whiskey everyday are the only reasons I'm still around.
Life is pretty pointless desu senpai.
I'll take that hug, bro.
All these gains and still nobody wants me.
>>34966578
>>34967159
Well tried to talk to her, told her i changed my mind etc etc and asked her to give me 15 mins to explain myself.
She said that she didnt want to talk.
fml
>>34963357
Anon, I'm fucking sorry bro. This made me secondhand sad. I love you, you dumb faggot.
>>34962451
I-it's not just a meme, you guys.
>>34969205
you shoulda responded with "6.5 inches"
I felt the same way a lot of you guys do. Was a virgin until 24, overweight and no confidence. I got pursued heavily by a coworker, had sex and fell into a relationship. Because I was scared I'd never find anyone else and had no experience or confidence I was super beta and started to resent her heavily. Got fit, had enough of my life revolving around her and her shitty attitude and broke up. Much happier now I'm fit and without a gains goblin.
I know it's hard to know what you want without ever experiencing it before but be careful. I'm 27 now and enjoying single life. Get laid pretty regularly now because I'm confident and happy with myself and don't put up with girls shit after hitting my breaking point.
>>34969205
just fucking say 6 feet
bitches don't understand shit about height, or penis sizes
>mfw there's a group of girls who think I sport an 8 incher because one of the dumb cunts with small hands has only seen it all around her face, when in reality it's 5.5inches
won't correct them
>>34969237
The person I was talking to here works with me every day, and obviously lying about my height would make me seem like an insecure faggot. I just think it's funny/sad that that was the first thing she asked. I'm really not even that into meeting this girl anymore lel.
>>34969205
>>34969205
>"I'm 5'9""
>communication stops
holy shit breh
>>34969163
This shouldn't be this hard.
There is a cute in my group for anatomy. We're practicing on dead humans and shit.
She's cute as fuck, great skin (srsly), nice smile, nice hair. We chat a lot during lessons, I tease her a little bit and she seems responsive.
We had to measure our pulse and we did it together with her - a chance for a touch haha.
Then later when we studied bones in leg she put her leg on my leg (autisticmode.png) so I could feel her knee bone (patella). It wasn't awkward at all.
Then we were talking about sports and I showed her video of me deadlifting lmao2pl8s and she said wow you are so strong. Kek, bitch, I'm dyel as fuck.
Then I said that it wouldnt hurt for her to squat and she said that she does. I said that it doesn't show to be honest and she hit me playfully like OMG!!! Did u just say that?!
But the biggest problem is that she has boyfriend for 4 FUCKING YEARS already. The only guy she has been with and it doesn't seem to end. She doesn't go to club/parties either.
What to do fit?
Hey, /fit/, I want to ask for advice. Greentext for context.
>met a QT at camp before uni
>tried to build chemistry for about 1.5 months
>didn't talk too much, tried to avoid friendzone
Reading this thread, realized I still made stupid mistakes which made me seem needy/desperate/possibly revealed too much. Anyway,
>got her number at a uni event, said I'd like to take her out sometime, says yes
>asked her out 3 times over text, said she was busy every time
>gave up for about a month
>this week, met her in the street all alone
>"If you don't talk to her now you'll regret it like so many times before"
>Spaghettied hard, realise now I had made up a glorified image of her in my head over the past month
>as she's about to run catch the bus, grab her and ask "hey, so can we finally meet up?" (cringe, I know). She says yes again
I was going to ask whether I could still make her my gf somehow, but I'm convinced after reading this thread, that there's no chance. I've already showed my betaness. What I'm asking is, what do I do about the promise to ask her out? I feel like it's awkward if I don't at least give it a final shot to get turned down again. Of course I'm still hanging on to the thread of hope that she might like me and not think I'm a beta and wants to go out which is why I need reassurance that not talking to her anymore is the right choice.
>>34962661
>follow this kind of advice for a while now
>been making plenty of gains and general improvements in life
>lost regular contact with friends
>still no gf or really any female interaction outside of work/family for ~18mo
>dont really worry about it just keep focusing on self
>working with meh 6/10 coworker last night
>says something like "anon you seem like the kind of guy who would be a serial killer"
>wut.jpeg
>"you're charismatic and handsome and perfect and that's the kind of guy you always hear about going off kidnapping some girl or killing a bunch of people"
>laugh it off "I'll take that as a compliment"
>"that's not a compliment coming from a girl"
>mfw
What the fuck was that supposed to mean? Is this the kind of vibe I give off? Shit kinda fucked with my head all night and got me pretty down desu senpai
>>34969293
find another girl
>>34969312
I was in the same situation as you.
The only thing I can say to you is you've already failed. This will go nowhere, so have some self-respect and delete her number from your phone, stop stalking her and trying to meet her in anyway.
You blew it up the same was as I did. Got her number, fuck yeah, then asked her for a date she said yes, fuck yeah. She flaked and obviously doesn't want to go on a date and you made her a goddess in your eyes. Now you act like a beta autist around her.
Stop it or you will go even deeper .
My advice is to ALWAYS talk to/fuck with AT LEAST 2 girls. Abundance mentality works wonders.
>>34969361
Do you think she would cheat on him with me? That's basically why I was writing this story in the first place. How could I pull it off? And all you moralists, fuck off. I don't know that guy and don't give a fuck about him.
>>34969396
You can't pull it off, that's why you're here bitching to us. You were probably perceiving signals that weren't even there in the first place projecting your own attraction on her ;^)
>>34969293
Sorry bro. Those girls are completely no no's. Make a friend out of her, but don't pursue it unless she does first.
>>34969379
Great advice
Sometimes you need a swift kick in the ass
To the anon who this was in response to this is tough love right here but hopefully you heed his advice...
OP I feel you. And all other brehs.
My self-esteem is so low nowadays. I feel like no one wants me and I'm disgusting. The only joy in life is gym but it doesn't make me any desirable really.
I feel awful and no amount of lifting changes it. What to do, /fit/? My self-esteem has gotten to a point where I'm prob gonna be kicked out form uni cause I just can't make myself study and I fail every exam after another.
>tfw no lovelife
>tfw school goes badly
>tfw no future
>tfw so much debt already
>tfw should cut a bit
>tfw all I do is lurk
>JUST
>>34969409
Yea, it can be true what you're saying. But I won't know unless I try...
>>34969412
Why do you think so?
>>34969293
the grill in this pic is 10/10
>>34967666
Thanks man. Hearing your story actually really helped me a lot bro.
>>34969379
>>34969415
Eh... thanks, bros. She's just so beautiful, and shorter than me and seemed fun to talk to. I will heed wise anon's advice though...
silently hoping she'll try getting a hold of me ;_;
Learn what the Stoics call the sacred indifference. Apply that to women and you'll have success
>>34969338
I know this feel mate, when posting my face anywhere I always get comments that I look like a russian hitman and that I look like I murder people in my spare time. But hey, what can you do about the way your face looks.
Just take the good part out of it, she called you charismatic, handsome and perfect. Just disregard all the negative shit the girl had to say. There is no reason to talk other people down besides making yourself feel better. If she said all that shit with a negative follow up she is just insecure. Don't read to much into it, just wear it as a compliment.
>>34969511
Yeah man im glad it helped for sure. I'm usually not a fucking softee but when that happened and he looks up and tells me he wants to learn to fight I just cried and hugged him. I remembered being a kid watching goku/gohan go to train together thinking I can't wait to have that kind of bond so when it actually happened I was just beyond happy.
Remembering all my training and now passing it on to him was what I really wanted. Now would I love to be married to her sure but it wasnt in the cards and I can accept that and move on but SHE wasnt my dream. The GOAL I had when I was a child was my dream. As long as shes happy and doesn't treat him like shit I'm good to go.
I want everyone here to experience that but its not going to come without a shit ton of work but if I could do it you can do it. Im not the guy on here shitting on people for trying to reach their own personal goals and it will never be me.
If it takes listening to positive shit everyday and working yourself into a frenzy like Sean Stephenson then fine. I know he looks crazy but when you see his girlfriend your jaw is probably gonna hit the floor because he just has the self esteem of a giant despite his size
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAibh3SqRUo
>>34969514
Fuck you
>>34969338
she sounds like a massive bitch, fuck her.
desu senpai
>step one: don't overthink it
>step two: stop overthinking it
>step three: if you're overthinking it, stop
But I'm not saying to just sit back and let life happen. You should have the willpower big enough to "scheme" and get what you want. But as for conversations - which are probably the most important part in establishing relationships - just be you. Be comfortable. If you think you're uncomfortable, fake it til you make it. Affirm yourself. Its incredible how just looking in the mirror and saying "I am worthy" shifts your perspective on others and their relation to you.
There's a website called getesteem that basically lays out all the symptoms of someone with low self esteem as well as the attributes of someone with high self esteem. Being conscious of these things in my behavior and working to fix them really did change my attitude, so I think its worth a shot.
Bottom line: being confidant with yourself and being comfortable around others takes EFFORT. There is no guideline you hear that instantly switches who you are. It takes time. But people are almost always capable of more than they think.
We're all gonna make it.
You are gonna make it.
met a QT on sunday at a dinner party. Now have a crush.
Hopefully seeing a party on friday.
Wish me luck bros, she's tall slim quiet and smart and really fucking hot 8/10 or 9/10 face.
wish me luuck, i will make it.
>>34969338
>Making gains in life
>Lose contact with friends
You're doing it wrong brah. Back to the drawing board.
>>34969630
Thanks bro. Hope it all works for you. You seem like a good guy.
