So how do you determine how much you benched? Do you add the weight of the bar itself? How much does the bar weigh?
Also, moronic questions general thread.
Bar is 45
let's say you do 1 25lb on each side
thats 50 lb's + the 45 lb bar
so 95 lb's
that's how much you benched
simple math, just know the numbers
>>34959877
This
There are people who don't count the bar or something?
>>34959877
this.
Its been the way of champions anon
>>34959877
Bar is always 45?
>>34959886
You have to remember that there are holes in the plates but part of the bar fills the holes in the plates so it somewhat cancels out.
>>34959912
wut
>Counting the bar
>posting those numbers on /fit/
Lol, DYELs
>>34959902
No. The standard 7' male olympic bar weight is 45 lbs or 20 kg, but they can be much lighter than this
>>34959912
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
>>34959886
I don't...
Then I bench 265lbs
Hory sheet
No serious lifters count the weight of the bar.
As well as this, you'll need to take plate degradation into account (for every year you own a plate, the weight of it drops by ~1kg)
if you're serious about lifting you don't count the bar.
>>34959877
You're not counting the holes in the weights
>>34959948
Plate degredation is often offset by plate inflation, depending on the humidity of the area you keep your plates
>>34959948
This is why there are no full plates from before the 90s now, they just evaporate p much.
>>34959948
Due to nuclear decay
>>34959969
you're a fucking idiot, plate inflation is a myth. Plates degrade evenly no matter what the humidity is.
>>34959858
It's not that stupid friend.
You see, people have all kinds of ways of counting, yet they always overlook the most essential constant when lifting: gravity.
So regardless whether you count bar or not, you will have to multiply that number with the gravity constant to exactly assess how much you have lifted.
You can look up the formulars online. Also be aware of special gravity zones in some parts of the world.
>>34959953
>>34959949
>>34959948
>>34959928
>>34959912
this is going straight to r/4chan :^)
>>34959902
A standard hex bar, yes. You can find some that vary, but most commercial gyms only have 45 lbs bars
>>34959981
rust?
>>34959989
>most commercial gyms only have 45 lbs bars
You'd be surprised. But typically weaker bars are the lighter ones, so if you can't load them much they're probably not fullv20kg
Do steroids cure autism & muscle dysmorphia?
>>34960107
If anything it'll be the opposite
>>34959858
>counting the bar
>>34959877
How much would the bar count for in a smith machine?
>>34960253
It's complicated.
>>34960253
>Smith machine
Kill yourself instead
if your height is above 6' you need to add 2lbs of weight to your recorded lifts.
Because you are cutting through the resistance of air higher than what a manlet could achieve.
So you are getting a deep and longer pump.
Manlets make faster gains since their wind resistances is at a lower plane of turbulence, but at the lost of longer plane... so they dont achieve the 2lb bonus.
but in the long run Nordic Gods of Height achieve more as they need to break through a longer plane of resistance. Thus the 2lb bonus is applied.
Simple engineering facts, bros.
This is why manlets are always mad, but no one wants to admit it.
>>34961079
Exactly
>>34960253
>bench
>smith machine
>>34959912
kek
>>34959902
the bar in your picture is 20kg (45lb I guess). If it weighs anything else, it'll look pretty different.
Count the bar, the pl8s, and how much each individual arm weighs.
The bar is weightless because the fulcrum creates weight infetterence
When youre squatting, you do count the bar. In fact, you count your own bodyweight as well, but only above your knees, since that's where your body and weights are putting the pressure. To find out how much you weigh above the knees, simply get on a scale on your knees and have a spotter spot the dial on the scale since you won't be able to see it from so low. Super simple stuff
>>34959969
You fucking retard holy shit. Even if plates "expanded" and holy shit you're retarded if you believe that they do, volume is not fucking mass you goddamn retard. Expanding iron is not more iron being added on, it's the iron that's there just expanding to take up more volume.
>>34963383
Yeah, as opposed to the guy saying that metal plates disappear over time, at a rate of 1kg a year. That's why my car no longer has any meta visible on the surface, because of car degradation.
Dont forget to include hair on your arms in the total weight. People who shave their arms are the same as steroid users, faggot frauds.
>>34963383
NO you're not adding more iron, the more you use the weights, you grab them with your hands and your bodily oils accumulate on them. Dirt and dust and dead skin cells accumulate which add more weight.
and then it gets even more complicated when you measure by number of plates, or "pl8's" as I like to call them
so if you put on a 45 lb weight on each side, you have two pl8s on the bar. So you could say you are benching 135, or 2pl8.
I'm up to 4 pl8 now, or 225 lbs.
>>34963501
Nice bait my man, maybe if you get enough replies you'll get featured on /r4chan!
>>34963546
>he fell for the bait
>>34963215
10/10 underrated
>>34959912
Top kek
>>34963501
kek
>>34961079
When will these baits end desu senpai
>>34963501
2 pl8's on each side is 2pl8 you faget
>>34963458
This is correct, but you're missing another factor. Yes, every time you set the plate down, it degrades, breaking off iron molecules which float around the room. But remember, iron is magnetic, and especially so for weights and bars that get lifted so often. The friction caused by air resistance creates a magnetic charge every time it is moved. So those iron molecules may float around for a while, but are eventually attracted back to the plates and bars. This creates a very strange effect, where a bar with plates actually becomes slightly heavier when you pick it up, because the magnetic charge is increased by air resistance and it collects more of the free floating iron molecules, but then gets lighter when you set it down, as molecules are broken away from the surface by the shock of impacting the ground. Plates that see very heavy use can gain a noticeable amount of weight as you pick them up, because they collect more than their share of the free molecules in the air.
>>34963501
shitty bait is shitty
Nobody posted pic of taking the barbell soul into account?
>>34963501
top kek anon-kun desu baka senpai !
>itt: faggots thinking every bar is 45 lbs
heres a retarded question, would it make any sense for an auschwitz mode to do a cycle or two of roids to get to a "normal" weight/ will most of the weight stay when you stop. obviously you'd lose some but would you go back to where you started if you kept working out?
>>34959858
How much do other gym bars weigh? Ez curl bar ect
>>34963501
to the front page!
>>34963584
What if the barbell is athiest?
>>34963602
it's stupid to do roids without at least a few years of lifting experience
you can't take shortcuts into learning proper form and dedication
So since I'm bigger with a pump
how much more do I weigh?
>>34963501
spit out my drink
>>34963501
screenshotted
>>34963623
obviously its being a cheater fag but with that being said would most of te weight stay ?
>>34963579
This is called the Marque-Kripetow Effect
>>34963654
i mean I don't care about being a cheater
but you might snap your shit up if you increase your deadlift by 30 pounds a week if you are rounding the shit out of your back
or even increasing your bench super fast but tearing the shit out of your rotator cuffs because you haven't learned what feels right and what fucks it up
you wouldn't be making the most of your gains relative to the damage you do to your body and hormones.
but yeah, it'd probably stay up until a reasonable weight that your body can maintain naturally, obviously there's a limit, but there's no good way to predict it
>>34963501
toasting in ebin bread
>>34963654
Yeah bro, don't listen to the haters. Mass isn't cultivated using "dedication" or "practice" when god has blessed us with chemicals that make it easy as fuck to get big. Blast it man. Getting big is easy, and the less time you spend in the gym lifting weight like a fool, the more time you have for yourself and getting mired.
>>34963501
wasn't ready for this
>>34963688
if you followed a program and had someone showing you properly how to not hurt yourself would this mitigate it? not just gunna shoot some roids and go ham by myself at the gym hahaha. would get a trainer so on.
>>34963501
my sides
>>34963501
>checked
>>34963501
epic for the win
>>34959858
How about my arms? Do I weight my arms because I'm pushing those up too? What's the best way to weight my arms?
>>34959912
Hey guys, i don't usually post here. i was just wondering when people say it should only be possible to gain like 1.5lb of muscle a month, you are obviously putting on some fat weight with that? and it's not fat weight that is going to make you look like a landwhale? new to it all. thanks in advance.
>>34963575
but then you're not counting the other two plates and the bar.
>>34963823
Yeah, it's pretty much impossible to gain pure muscle without some fat. Unless you are 13 and in full puberty-mode.
And fat is fat. Unless you live in the arctic and put on some brown fat.
Pendlay rows completed with metal plates instead of bumper plates degrade by 1% every 3 weeks. So you must calculate a .5 Lb loss every 3 weeks.
>>34963823
yeah you'll put on some fat weight but you also need to accept you will put on some air weight
All the space in between your new muscle and fat needs to be full of air, it's why they're so soft and spongy, because just like a sponge, full of air!
>>34963851
>pretty much impossible
>Unless you are 13
i lost 3.6 lbs of fat while gaining 3.6 lbs of muscle at 10% bf according to DXA
>>34963501
just replying for when this gets posted on /r/4chan and every /fit/ humor thread and ylyl ever along with that 'smell my dick in my shit' screen shot
>>34963501
>>34963872
simply epic :)
Bars can be anywhere from 10kg -20kg
>counting the bar
are u fucking retarded ur lifting the weights on the end of the bar??
you count the weight of ur arms too?
idiots
>>34964161
are you not supposed to do that? I also count the clips on each end.
>>34963851
>>34963866
Thanks for quality answer. i'm just worried the fat part will make me look like a bloated timbo or something. would it be possible to put on 10lbs of "healthy" weight a month, all while looking "proportionate" if that makes sense. im sure im not describing it well what i mean thanks for bearing with me haha.
>>34964062
Or heavier, sometimes. I've seen ones as heavy as 30kg but its usually pretty obvious they aren't regular bars. There's 25kg ones that can pass for normal bars, but they're kind of specialised equipment.
>>34959886
I don't in my tracking, makes it easier to figure out what plates to put on the bar, can just divide the weight in half to get each side. No subtracting the 45 from the bar.
Just have to remember to add the bar back in if I talk to anyone about what I lift.
I forget a lot though.
>>34960253
~5lbs if that.
>>34959886
You don't count the bar. So if you lift two plates (lmao2p8) that means you lifted 2x45=90 pounds.
>>34959981
Do you even lift? Plate inflation occurs when plates absorb humidity from the air, causing them to increase in weight and expand as well.
>>34960253
You have to also count the machine, it depends on the size of the Smith machine.
>>34964248
The annoying ones are things like appollon's axle that look like they should be way heavier than a normal bar but are actually like 15 kg.
>>34964709
My gym has a few bars that are only 20 lbs, instead of 45. No fucking clue why. They also look basically identical.
You just kinda have to grab a bar and see if it "feels right". Before I knew this, I OPD'd on the 20 lb bar, and thought I was blasting past my previous max. The next time I OHP'd, I tried the same plates on a 45 lb bar. Tweaked my shoulders real good.
>>34960253
the same
but you have to consider you are only moving in one direction(X) opposed to having hold the weight from going to Y and Z so you can press in just X
as you have noticed this is much harder
>>34959858
7' bar is 20kg, 5' bar is 15kg
>>34961079
This is lanklet speak for "pls stop making fun of my shitty lifts i get from having nigger bone-structure instead of short and tough euopean bones"
Because tall guys aren't always lanklets, but literally everyone who has ever called somebody a manlet is 100% a lanklet.
Does anybody get cramps in the "bicep of the leg" when benching reaching your max or at some point?
Also can someone tell me more about the plate loosing wheight? some guy said 1 kilo per year but it feels to much
