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Keep telling yourself that you're lifting for girls.
Keep telling yourself that you're gonna be like Zyzz.
Keep telling yourself that you're on a 5-day muscle split because it takes your chest a whole week to recover.
Keep defending the fact that you can't hit 1/2/3/4 in a year of training.
Keep telling yourself that you're weak because of your program, or your genetics.
>if you haven't hit 1/2/3/4 in your first year of training, then YOU'RE the problem.
>>34930550
>if you haven't hit 1/2/3/4 in your first year of training, then YOU'RE the problem.
>100% bullshit
pick 2 no more, no less
If you start out asa fat cunt or naturally bigger guy you could hit this much quicker. If you start out as a fucking stick insect theres a very big chance you cant hit these numbers in one year naturally. It is ludicrous to just assume any skinny faggot can go from benching the bar to benching 100kg in a year just by working hard
>>34930550
Noob here
WTF is 1/2/3/4?
>>34930581
brahs idk I hit 1 plate like 3 months in and 2 plate like 7 months later. Still under a year. I was a skinny cunt 6'4" lanklet and I only went to the gym 3 times a week. I think it has a lot to do with diet, if I had a shit diet I can see not being able to progress as fast.
>>34930581
>It is ludicrous to just assume any skinny faggot can go from benching the bar to benching 100kg in a year just by working hard
he can do it in 6 months if he eats a lot and trains correctly. it's not a particularly difficult feat.
>>34930581
>If you start out asa fat cunt or naturally bigger guy you could hit this much quicker
The only people that cry about this are 110 lb subhuman basement dwellers.
>It is ludicrous to just assume any skinny faggot can go from benching the bar to benching 100kg in a year just by working hard
I did it in a year. Wasn't even that hard. Started at 150 lbs.
Stay weak, then.
The weak should fear the strong.
>>34930598
>WTF is 1/2/3/4?
135 lb overhead press
225 lb bench press
315 lb squat
405 lb deadlift
>>34930598
1 plate OHP (135 lbs, 61 kg)
2 plate bench (225 lbs, 102 kg)
3 plate squat (315 lbs, 143 kg)
4 plate deadlift (405 lbs, 184 kg)
>>34930614
>135 lb overhead press
>225 lb bench press
>315 lb squat
>405 lb deadlift
how did it come to be known as that?
>>34930619
1 plate, 2 plates, 3 plates, 4 plates
Since when going to the gym became a competition? Ffs if you don't progress as fast as others then you don't, you can still enjoy it. And if you keep doing that, you will hit those 1/2/3/4 sooner or later if you want. You learn something new (almost) every day.
For most pple the feeling after the workout and the other positive effects on the body are more important than numbers. This coming from a guy who hit 5x115kg bench after 2,5 years, so its not like im defending myself.
Lol itt: liars and fat fucks
>>34930581
I hit it in 7 months, starting at 64kg skelly. Im now 84 kg. But i did have prior experience with lifting and nutrition, and i played sports as young.
But most people never even hit 1/2/3/4. It's probably like 1% of the people in my gym that can do that, no matter how long they've been working out
>>34930638
>This coming from a guy who hit 5x115kg bench after 2,5 years, so its not like im defending myself.
Isnt that weak?
>>34930550
I agree to a point. That is an incredibly mediocre, achievable goal for a year's time. My numbers were higher than that when I started, except on deadlift. I grew up poor, but kept at high volume calisthenics until I had access to weights.
>>34930638
>Since when going to the gym became a competition?
Humans got to the top of the food chain for a reason... we are ruthless competitors.
>For most pple the feeling after the workout and the other positive effects on the body are more important than numbers
Most people have become soft. Guess you know your place.
>>34930640
>Lol itt: liars and fat fucks
Cry.
RELEVANT ARTICLE
https://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/four-big-reasons-still-small-weak.html
>if you haven't hit 1/2/3/4 in your first year of training, then YOU'RE the problem.
This is just patently dumb. What if you're dedicated, following a good strength program and eating and recovering well? You still might not get anywhere near that depending on your starting point.
My buddy just started coming to the gym with me today and has never exercised a day in his life. He is just skin and bone and fat. There is not a solid inch of mass on his entire frame.
He couldn't squat or OHP the empty bar, and even trying to tell him basic cues like "tighten up" or "squeeze the bar" was difficult because he had no muscles to squeeze. The very notion of tensing a particular part of his body was impossible for him.
But he absolutely refused to give up. We had him doing squats with one of those small curl bars and he did way more than the 5x5 he was supposed to do because he was determined to get it right and by the time we left he was squatting and OHP'ing with decent form and is already asking what we're going to do next time.
It's going to be a long fucking road for him, but it was for me too. It all depends on where you're starting from.
So don't let dipshits like the OP discourage you, friends. Just keep training and keep putting the hours in. It might take months or it might take years but all you need to focus on is the next day in the gym and making that lift.
>>34930652
It's 250lbs for five reps. I'm not that guy just telling you the numbers to judge
>>34930665
>has never exercised a day in his life. He is just skin and bone and fat.
Lesson learned for spending the best developmental years of his life as a timid, sedentary wimp.
>>34930665
>don't let dipshits like the OP discourage you, friends
If the OP discourages you, then good. Grow some fucking thicker skin and man up.
>>34930645
>But most people never even hit 1/2/3/4. It's probably like 1% of the people in my gym that can do that, no matter how long they've been working out
that's a good point. the vast majority of people in the gym simply train wrong and inconsistently. so on the one hand 1/2/3/4 something that most people can't do, but on the other hand it's a mediocre achievement compared to what can be done if you follow a good diet and routine.
>>34930656
>Most people have become soft.
Almost everytime i hear this argument from gymgoers, but for some reason they don't have any other achievements to talk about. Its like you can be a virgin loser who is afraid of everybody and doesn't know any respect, duty etc. - but as long as you go to the gym and get your numbers up, eat and sleep on a schedule - you are hardcore...
>>34930656
Lol means I'm laughing at you. Manlet detected.
Reminder: nobody cares how much you can lift if you are aesthetic. Nobody who looks good and is cool brags about their lift weights.
>>34930686
yeah,im just saying,as a total newb,that i feel like ill be able to benchpress that in 10 months time if i keep going...also i just now started training
>>34930665
>This is just patently dumb. What if you're dedicated, following a good strength program and eating and recovering well? You still might not get anywhere near that depending on your starting point.
if you're a young, healthy male that won't happen.
>>34930701
>Manlet detected.
Worlds strongest men are 6'2" on average.
>nobody cares how much you can lift if you are aesthetic
Lifting to appease people and not yourself? I bet you suck a mean dick.
>>34930701
lets say right now im 10
i prefer lifting 100 and looking 50
than
lifting 50 and looking 100
>>34930701
>nobody cares how much you can lift
You obviously care, or you wouldn't have posted.
Checkmate, lanklet.
>>34930656
>>34930692
theweakshouldfearthestrong.jpg
>>34930550
Lifts don't mean shit for real world strength. I lift almost twice as much in any movement as my friends that hit the gym, and I don't touch weights. They knock me all the time, yet they can't manage 100 rep sets of pushups.
>>34930735
how the fuck can you do 100 reps of pushups
you must be training someway,what do you do ?
Lol Lmk if you want some cheerios or my girl to piss on you papa smurf.
>manlet rage the thread
>>34930714
>Worlds strongest men are 6'2" on average.
The winners aren't
Recovering fat guy here, the way my first 6 weeks of SL went I'm hoping I can reach 1/2/3/4 doing SL for like 6 months, even on a deficit.
>>34930751
GTG (grease the groove). Mastering movements is mostly neurological. Do pushups in small sets, say 10 reps, but do a high volume. 1,000-2,000 a day. Then once a week, have a day to lessen volume, but do each set to failure, with a goal of increasing reps as time goes by.
>>34930757
>The winners aren't
http://www.theworldsstrongestman.com/hall-of-fame/
Yes they are you dumb fuck.
>>34930773
Post a current body pic or a vid of you lifting twice what your friends so.
>>34930652
Yes it is
>>34930665
If he eats and works like he's meant to and isn't literally zero test he will get to 1/2/3/4 novice numbers almost just as fast as any other dyel. Just because you fucked up doesn't mean he necessarily will
>>34930735
Lol.
I love strength training and most things associated with it but I absolutely cannot stand the elitist attitude of fat rednecks who are actually the "I lift things up and put them down" stereotype.
Most of the books about routines/lifting seem like they're written by edgy 15yo's, just edited by competent people.
>>34930813
>I absolutely cannot stand the elitist attitude of fat rednecks who are actually the "I lift things up and put them down" stereotype.
Can't handle the bants.
It's called 'being a man'.
If you can't fit in with that type of guy (who are generally friendly), then you need to get your ass in the kitchen.
>>34930581
5'9 75kg when I started 4 months ago.
Now I'm benching 85kg, I tried 90kg(smallest plates we have are 2.5kg) and could only do it 1rm.
I never played any sport, and overall didn't care about nutrition. I didn't get on any form of supplements either, just ate fewer bad stuff and a bit more good stuff.
My OHP is laughable at 20kg though, I started doing it a bit late just a month ago.
>>34930813
Stop reading elitefts and juggernaut, and start following Duffin, Mike T, and other people who treat lifting relatively scientifically and don't spew MUH IRON LIFE
>>34930832
>Can't handle the bants
>Implying it's not cringeworthy to talk to people like that
>>34930778
>Posts hall of fame, The winners from when it was less competitive
two people under 6'3 have won in the last 15 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAjzOMq9UUU
Steve Shaw says "stop being a pussy".
Video very much related.
>>34930550
These threads are so gay. Who even knows their 1 RM? Like I'm never lifting that. I don't care. All that matters is what you can do in a set and you aren't knocking out 25 reps at 405 deadlifting in one year. Wouldn't pretty much everyone in the gym be doing that if it mattered? Out of the 60? Regulars that push hard at my gym and look good, there's maybe 2? guys who lift like that and they are huge freaks of fucking nature who have been lifting for a long time and clearly roid.
>>34931009
>Who even knows their 1 RM? Like I'm never lifting that.
It's all okay, buddy.
Nobody said you have to try hard.
Keep getting your pump and enjoying your life.
You sound really happy and secure.
Your ancestors would be proud.
>>34931009
>not testing your 1rm
The only people ive been friends with at the gym who didnt know their 1rm were usuallly pretty dyel.
It was sad because they had this "muh iron lyfe" mentality and were not only weak, but unaesthetic too. They were running a split where they would just do whatever sounded good that day without any real progression.
It sucks cuz i want them to succeed and to help them, but theyve been lifting longer than me so they would just feel offended.
>>34930550
Eh buddy, is it alright if I just lift for fun? Like just do it because I like it? Not to compete in some absurd masculinity competition of who is the best at things of no relevance? Is that okay?
>>34931366
>Not to compete in some absurd masculinity competition of who is the best at things of no relevance?
Sure. Lift for fun. That's okay. Everything is okay. Nobody will make you be uncomfy. Don't be scared.
>>34931375
Phew, that's good. I would've stopped lifting if some random guy on the internet told me I'm doing it wrong.
>>34930550
Jokes on him- I sleep in until noon and lift.
>>34931700
>Jokes on him- I sleep in until noon and lift.
Jokes on you. I work 40-70 hours a week, have a life and a family, and I lift a lot.
Okay a lot of people can hit 1/2/3/4 in the first year of training because they already had an athletic background in sports back in highschool and weigh 200lbs. I was a atrophied skinny-fat at 160lbs all fat, so its going to be harder to get those numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM
Awful lot of "beautiful ones" in here lifting baby weights to look cute.
Why do autists love numbers so much?
Looking good and being healthy is much more important than impressing fat powerlifters with some arbitrary numbers on the internet. Literaly no one cares how much you can lift
Jokes on him, I actually want to be a productive member of society. Seriously I love lifting, but the guy in the pic seems like a loser. I lift and play basketball, I would cross his ass over and break his bitchass ankles. All he does is lift things up and puts them down, try doing fast brakes, or draining three's.
>>34932004
>Looking good and being healthy is much more important
See >>34931995
You're so beautiful.
>>34930614
Lifting isnt everything, I bet all the trexes on fit couldnt whoop my ass at basketall lelele
>>34931019
>implying 1rms arent overweight pl circlejerk numbers
Nobody gives a shit except powerlifters
>>34932023
It's not just about looking good, it's about being healthy
A "weak" ottermode is healthier than a fat powerlifter
>>34932085
>Lifting isnt everything
Nobody said it was.
You're just insecure. Enjoy your pick-up basketball.
>>34932100
>Nobody gives a shit
So what do you say when your dad asks "how much ya bench?"
>being strong is stupid cry cry I lift for functional strength cry cry
>>34930614
Height?
>>34930550
blaha pls go
>>34932117
I tell him my usual working set 5-7 rm bench
>>34932085
I probably could 1 on 1
>>34930550
lol. You can easily reach those numbers with a 5 day brosplit
>>34932109
>A "weak" ottermode is healthier than a fat powerlifter
Lol. Generalize much?
Stay weak, bitch.
>>34930656
that article is fucking retarded
>>34932132
>I tell him my usual working set 5-7 rm bench
Coward. Put some damn weight on the bar and take a risk.
Generation of pussies, I swear.
>>34932188
>that article is fucking retarded
>I disagree
>I'm weak
>ergo, that's tarded.
>>34932180
kek
there are only two groups of people who wear hoodies in the gym. fatties and powerlifters. Both look like shit, and both are insecure virgins
>>34932191
>implying my 5rm is light
Pls faget
>>34932252
>Pls faget
Let us hear it then :)
>>34932246
>there are only two groups of people who wear hoodies in the gym. fatties and powerlifters. Both look like shit, and both are insecure virgins
Being behind your keyboard has made you so smart and brave. Good job.
>>34930656
That article literaly says you should be a fat fuck to progress
>>34932260
>implying you arent behind one either
go back to HAES tumblr already, stop shitting up the board
>>34932291
>That article literaly says you should be a fat fuck to progress
No it doesn't.
Being at 7% bodyfat year round is not strong, nor is it conducive to becoming stronger. Retard.
>>34932334
it may come a surprise to you, but not everyone cares about being a powerlifter. Fitness doesnt equal strength.
>>>/plg/
>>34932117
Im not insecure the trex powerlifters are insecure about their cute little numbers.
>>34932369
>Fitness doesnt equal strength.
Fitness isn't being under 7% bodyfat year round either. Pull your head out of your ass.
>>34932146
You cant whoop me 1 on 1 unless you have experience
>>34932385
Never said it was you dip
>>34932334
Yes it tells you to go gain 20lbs of fat
>>34932411
>as if 10-20 pounds of fat gained over the course of several years of slow bulking is excessive
>>34932562
It doesnt matter when its gained. You get fat
>>34932578
You're literally 16 and 140 lbs.
>>34932591
Nope try again faget
>>34932578
Have you ever bulked before?
>315 bench
>445 squat
>455 diddly
>can hardly ohp 115
i have a huge fear of ohp idk why. my shoulders suck dick and i feel like theyll snap.
>>34932630
Yes, and?
>>34930550
Threads like this prove that nobody on /fit/ actually lifts.
Can someone please help? Now im doing 2 or 3-day split (Push-pull or push-pull-legs) and should I be training for strength (strong muscles=big muscles) or Hypertrophy training?
At the moment I bench, I squat, OHP and everything like that and im concetrating on improving my lifts but ALSO im doing some bodybuilding work on top of that. Is it okay?
For example:
>Bench 3x5
>incline dp press 3x12
>Ohp 3x5
>lateral rises 4x12
>tricep "pumping"
I hit 2pl8 bench and 3pl8 squat on 11. Month of training
>>34932673
>and should I be training for strength (strong muscles=big muscles) or Hypertrophy training?
All weight training is strength training.
Video related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8zFp9gqrjU
>>34932388
well I might have some experience
>>34930550
Heya faggots, tell me what 1/2/3/4 means. Google tells me that its 1 pl8 OHP/2 pl8 Bench etc but since i don't live in America i don't know what a pl8 is. And if you count the bar into this 1 pl8 OHP for example.
Please answer me and not shitpost?
>>34933126
see >>34930614
>>34930618
Literally read.
>>34933141
Thanks dude, didn't read the thread
>>34930550
1/2/3/4 1RMs or for working sets?
>>34932260
>Being behind your keyboard has made you so smart and brave. Good job.
Not the anon quoted, but I smell some heavy butthurt here
>>34933250
>I smell some heavy butthurt here
Don't talk to me unless you rep 1/2/3/4
>>34933178
working sets ofc
Anything less is kind of bad
>>34930665
>This is just patently dumb. What if you're dedicated, following a good strength program and eating and recovering well? You still might not get anywhere near that depending on your starting point.
This is the /fit/ equivalent of tumblr's "What if a person exercises regularly and eats a healthy low calorie diet but still can't get below 600lbs".
>>34930550
Hey op, can you do a one arm pull up? Or a pistol squat with good form? No? Then you are a fat fuck.
>>34930550
>Keep defending the fact that you can't hit 1/2/3/4 in a year of training.
>tfw
This. Seriously. Haven't missed a workout for two years and I've got nothing to show for it but 1x5 305lbs DL. I ascribed my failures to a lot of things.
1.) Wasted my noobgains on a 5day split
2.) lack of sleep 4-6 hours a day
3.) Bastardized SS
4.) With only 1 year of gym experience made a shitty "Explosive" routine...
Sometimes I comfort myself with the fact that the only person I ever saw do 3x5 lmao4pl8!!1 DL IRL has been working out for 7 years.
>>34930550
>MUH STRENGTH
You neckbeards always bring a smile on my face because it lets me remember There are people even more retarded than me
90% of people itt claiming they can 1/2/3/4 doing this:
>using legs to push out the ohp(not strict)
>not letting bar touch chest on chestpress
>not going below 90% leg position on squat
>facing back injurys in aprox 10 years from bad posture
Silly faggots looking at numbers instead of actually doing the exersice properly
>>34930836
same starting stats 5-6 months here. same nutrition.
500 cals over maintenance
bench still 65 kg
>>34933326
can you do a 600lbs deadlift?
if not then youre a weak fuck
>>34933294
Epic trolololololol
Literally any of you faggots post even a pic of you HOLDING four plates and we'd all say ur the macho macho manlets supreme.
>>34933420
>Literally any of you faggots post even a pic of you HOLDING four plates and we'd all say ur the macho macho manlets supreme.
Does it count on our backs?
