any real reasons not to do front squats instead of back squats?
Quadriceps
>>34923368
Significantly Less weight
Requires more flexibility
Different muscle contraction percentage
They work the same muscles though IIRC so yeah...
>>34923395
less weight compared to back squat means you look even more impressive squatting decent weight
more flexibility required - same thing as above
different muscle contraction percentage - good for me, I don't need more glutes
because you'd be a hipster
>>34923368
The most functional squat movement
Real athletism
Only for the chosen ones
>>34923368
>instead of
>not both
What now?
I do both. Though back squats are a main (5 reps) and fronts an accessory (8 reps). I like back squats for the overall strength benefit and I like the round butt it gives as bitches do actually look at a dudes ass. I do front squats as they're a better quad builder than leg extensions which are meant to fuck you up.
But yeah if you're purely a bodybuilder/aestheticss fag you may not want a bubble butt. Lots of early bbers didn't do back squats and just did front squats as they thought a big butt on a dude was a female traint and not manly lol.
>>34924243
bitch why are you lying on a countertop
>>34923368
>stop back squaring
>want to get to that 3pl8 front
>return to back squating because they help eachother
>back squat form goes to shit
>can't back 3pl8 anymore without it looking like a low bar bs
>now i FS more than BS
>why?
>>34924243
>leg extensions will fuck you up
>do sissy squats
Front squats and back squats are largely similar, though back squats trades a little quad focus for lower back+glute/ham focus, which are already present in deadlifts, and also the reason why you can carry more weight in a back squat.
If you want to be strong all around, do front squats, as deadlifts are fucking easy to progress so you'll grow those muscles easily through it, but quads can lag behind especially if your back squat form is less than perfect
>>34923368
I was having a lot of wrist trouble with back squats (even without weight on the bar and neutral wrists) and starting front squats has been a godsend for getting around that.
If you weren't born slav squatting, do front squats.
I'm an old fag. I've seen too many of my friends ruin their lumbar spine forever with back squats. It's the damage you can't see or feel that ruins your back. Every struggling squat morning compounds on itself and after a decade all that shit will come back to haunt you.
If you try to struggle thru a front squat, you dump the weight. It's just a much safer exercise.
Also, what this guy says:
>>34924338
>>34924338
Fuck me this exactly my problem. Done months of SL 5x5 and everything is exactly where it should be and evenly developed according to strength standards, except my quads and squat strength which are about 10% below where they should be.
>>34924387
>according to strength standards
you're incredibly dumb
>>34924422
And of course you won't explain why.
if you don't front squat AND olympic weightlift you're a faggot anyway and need to go back to the united states where all the other faggots are
>>34924243
I use them as an accessory too. Doing heavy ass front squats sucks
>>34924466
How so? Painful or what?
>>34924431
because it's intuitively obvious that you're very dumb when you say this
>everything is exactly where it should be and evenly developed
>my quads and squat strength which are about 10% below where they should be
do you need me to explain why touching a hot stove is bad?
>>34924466
>>34924472
dude stop being fucking pussies god this place is fucking awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kusTva3oIwo
>>34924472
not >>34924466 but I can tell you that heavy ATG front squats are the worst. it's hard to breath (for me), it puts more emphasis on your back to keep you more upright than highbar, and it puts the bar on your shoulders so if you're bony like I am, it you get bruises afterwards. They're a GOAT tier exercise though, would recommend to anyone serious about lifting.
>>34924505
>get bruises on m-muh shoulders
>on muhhhh shoulders
>waaaahh
STOP
POSTING
if you weren't such a stiff faggot you could properly hold the bar in a front rack position without letting it sit on your clavicles making it hard to breath.
>>34924521
>>34924450
this nigga gets it.
front squats > back squats
>>34924581
>front squats > back squats
Nope.
Do both, pussy.
>>34924521
>implying I let the bar rest on my collarbones like some fucking plebian
>>34924484
Because some of us prefer back squats? You probably shit on people who pull sumo too. Kill yourself, faggot.
>>34924680
Pussy ass bitch
as a tall guy it's better for me to do front squats
>>34924715
Cry about it, cunt.
>>34924680
>prefer back squats
>pull sumo
plebeian to the max
>>34924756
don't humor the amerifats
>>34924756
Pulling sumo has actually helped my squat quite a bit so I'm okay with it.
>>34924201
This is the correct response. You should be doing both.
>>34924477
I still don't get why you called that anon dumb, is it because he uses strength standards to compare his progress?
>>34924450
He's actually not front squatting there. those are rack holds, done for a few sets of however many seconds to build core stability and get used to a heavy weight on your front rack position. This matches his PR back squat of 305kg. He has done at least 230 for doubles on front squat. Ilya has been shown with 290 and did 320 during last years worlds, and since he claims to have a back squat of 363 but he doesn't go near it much, his front squat is likely far above 320.
>>34924845
if Lu was 100kgs like ilya ilyin he would actually be stronger if going by their pound for pound ratio
ayy lmao
>>34924891
Right now they are both equal in their respective weight classes. Lu is as dense as he possibly could be, he's apparently tried to go to teh 85 but his coach claimed he held too much fat that started affecting his performance.
>>34924950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM6EVgu7CL0
lu snatched 180kg at like 78-79 kgs. If he moved up to 85kg he would take the world records so easily.
he doesnt have to fucking compete at 0% bodyfat like usual. the dude is fucking shredded. i doubt a little fat would affect anything
>>34924988
Extra weight doesn't make your snatch going up so easily. For example Ilyas snatch didn't improve that much when he moved from 94 to 105.
>>34925019
lu has better technique than ilya in the snatch though.
also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6wdBDv2QOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InxhgqchTbQ
>>34924810
why? why not pick one? that's like saying you should be taking every allergy medicine under the sun if you have allergies instead of the proper dose of one
>>34925032
More bw you get less improvement you get for your lifts.
On a related note... Do you nigger have a tendency on slipping weight on collarbones during specialy heavy fs? When I rest the bar on shoulders it seems that the weight is too far from my body, and if I rest it on my collarbones it is very stable, but hurts as fuck.
>>34925090
You're too stupid too write, and too stupid to keep your elbows up.
Get stronger.
>>34925090
Nope. Just learn the proper front rack position and work on upper back tightness.
If your best squat is under 315, it doesn't matter. Because you're still learning to not be a bitch.
i do back squats because i am nowhere near flexible enough to front squat properly. if i front squat, i want to be able to do it without risk of injury, which means going ass to grass. i am trying to get more flexible though but there is fucking zero info out there which is not disputed highly. same with lifting but at least /fit/ gives somewhat coherent advice.
>>34925282
> at least /fit/ gives somewhat coherent advice
kek
dont worry f am. just do SS + GOMAD, you'll get flexible
