Post ITT about the problems you experience after making it
man koshie is such a fucking wanker
>>34917308
faggots like OP keep shitting up the only bulletin board i can find dedicated to my hobby of traditional Mongolian ear-hair braiding and decoration.
wtf is koshie doing in this
>>34917308
>tfw still shy and get very uncomfortable when qt's mire
Don't know how to respond to compliments
>>34917511
>>34917498
>making it
>no social skills
pick one
>Growing cynical to the world
>Realize one night stands only make you feel cheap and unloved
>less people like me because I'm no longer a shlubby punching bag
>get invited out less
>women talk to me less
Physical part is easy, it just requires you to tren hard and eat. It's just concrete steps you have to follow that any aspy can do.
Social part is hardest part, it's not something you can learn from books (fucking mystery method). It's something you learn through communication with many different types of people on many different levels. And as most of you guys are still introverted as fuck, you will have to actually force yourself into social interaction. It's hard, I know from experience, but with enough dedication you'll start enjoying social contact and learn to talk to grills.
>>34917308
Danger of drowning in pussy
>>34917538
Cynicism is a sign of immaturity. You can either learn to interact with the rest of the world, or chose feel better than them (pro tip: the latter won't make you any happier.)
everyone expects you to help with lifting shit
>>34917538
>People approach me when I'm working out and my muscle cools down
>My favorite old clothes won't fit because bulking and had to spend money to buy clothes
>Hard to make friends since most people just want to fug me
>They all think I'm an extrovert
>Mom tells me that I'm ugly because of muscle and my melted away tits
>>34917617
>have to talk to people
>have to spend money
>Can't set boundaries for people
>people assume I am something that I probably should be considering my appearance
>mom tells me I'm ugly
>making it
>Girls want to fuck me
>I keep getting ED
>It's happened 4 times
Seriously, fuck my life.
>>34917652
stop wanking so much
>>34917591
> Cynicism is a sign of immaturity
Bullshit, if you're honestly happy you're a fucking idiot
>>34917672
>>34917663
I tried that. I even went to a doctor and got my test / other levels checked - all normal.
It's definitely mental, anxiety and stuff. Such a vicious cycle... i'm definitely at the upper range of being sexually inexperienced (23), so it's not like I can tell these random girls.
Legit don't know what i'm going to do if this happens again. These girls have been hot as well... fuck.
>>34917672
Happiness isn't as black and white as you think.
But yea, sure, whatever floats your boat right?
>>34917652
I hear you brother.
Number of girls I've fucked: 2
Number of girls I've had in my bed ready to fuck but couldn't: about 10
If it wouldn't ruin my parents lives I'd probably kill myself
>>34917685
Find a girl who you can trust dummy.
I was lucky to find a girl that put up with my ED for like 2 months before I could have regular sex.
That's what you need, no tinder sloots.
>>34917511
>smile and look away
>say thanks
i need to stop doing this
>>34917663
That's the biggest load of bullshit ever.
My libido is so fucked I can jack off three times a day. Still doesn't stop me from plowing my girl at every chance I get.
And I don't mean for 5 minutes either.
>>34917703
>not considering viagra
>telling the truth
Pick one and kill yourself
>>34917703
Yeah bro it's terrible. Each time I just laugh it off "hahaha not sure what's happening" kind of thing, but then die a little inside. At least the spooning/morning chat is nice...
>>34917709
Yeah true, way easier said than done.
This has happened with a girl I went on 5+dates with, she was genuinely great, attractive, well educated, funny etc. We tried twice, date 2 and date 5... nothing, I guess I kind of fucked up by just ignoring it. She promptly just slowly stopped replying to me, which is fair enough, as I was just flat out ignoring it.
She asked me back to hers between then actually and I was kind of scared it would happen again and made up an excuse that I needed to go home.
So basically I lost a great girl, because of ED.
It would definitely put off any half decent girl that i can't get a boner. I'm definitely scared that if I tell a decent girl it will fuck it up.
Been trying hard to recondition myself to way thoughts and stuff, fap only once a week etc. I think my next option is to just go and try and sleep with a random I don't care about until it works.
Apologies for the vent.
>>34917763
no worries m8. let it all out iktf
>>34917757
Of course I have. It takes a while to kick in so requires prior knowledge that you'll definitely have sex. If you fuck it up, enjoy the worst blue balls you've ever had. Its also expensive and sort of feels weirdly different than a regular boner.
Not worth it man.
>>34917763>>34917763
>It would definitely put off any half decent girl that i can't get a boner. I'm definitely scared that if I tell a decent girl it will fuck it up.
Any half decent girl would be understanding imho.
I don't think there's a way around communicating your problem, personally. Building a trusting connection to a woman (I have huge trust issues) and being able to be comfortably intimate with her was the biggest help.
Although I've also heard of guys who took things like Viagra until they had enough "working" experiences to try it without.
You could also try Citrulline, seems to be working for a lot of people and it probably is a safer choice than Viagra.
http://examine.com/supplements/citrulline/#summary9
>>34917763
Reassuringly, quite a few of the girls it's happened with have thought it was their fault - one in particular said I was the fifth guy this had happened with. She then started crying for like 2 hours and I left.
>>34917805
hehe mah men
I "made it" just after my 2nd year of college. I had everything i needed. There was nothing more I wanted and I had met all my goals at the time (aside from "finish college" of course...but that doesnt count). After 6 months of this I realized life really actually fucking sucks at the "endgame".
I wish these things below were just satire, but it's all unfortunately true.
>literally had so much sex I completely lost interest in it AND masturbation, leading me to just outright stop having sex with my girlfriend at the time, causing strain in our relationship ("I'm not good enough for you this is my fault" blah blah blah), leading to our breakup
>didn't even give a fuck about breaking up because I developed a total indifference towards others and social interaction
>every interaction becomes the same: men/boys compare themselves to you, see you as a threat and try to appear bigger, or totally submit as if they lost some battle and kiss ass...women/girls either sexualize you somehow or demand labor/help from you, and expect to give no reward for the labor/help because they assume you must really enjoy doing hard ass work because you're strong
>percentage of weekly interactions with others that do not fall under the aforementioned scenarios: MAYBE 5%
>feel crushing emptiness inside...there's nothing more to fight for, struggle over, look forward to. Just continue the status quo and in time your long term goals will be realized.
>things I used to be interested in didn't seem interesting anymore
>deleted my Facebook
>turned off my phone
>spent hours and hours just sitting and thinking
>one weekend I got in my car to get groceries, but instead, just kept going on the freeway for 5 hours
>ended up in someplace where it was snowing
>got out, made a snowball, took a bite out of it, peed on a tree, and went home
1/2
>>34917843
>started making my life harder on purpose to give me something to do
>threw my clothes everywhere
>let the dishes pile up each week
>started smoking
>quit lifting
>overate on purpose
>got just behind enough in homework that I knew I could catch up with many hours of hard work 1 or 2 days a week
>outright stopped talking to people at work and school unless I absolutely had to
>just full on "fuck my shit up" mode for another 6 months
>literally just to give me something to do and work for
Now that I think about it, it was probably just severe depression or something, but holy fuck that was the worst year ever.
>>34917843
>>34917879
So what's the moral of your story?
>>34917699
That's why I said
>honestly happy
I'm happy right now in that I'm content and don't want to kill myself but I'm not blissfully unaware of the reality of my situation and all the problems I face
everyone has problems and if you aren't able to recognize them you are literally retarded
the only people I could see being the outliers are the ones who realized this, learned to let go and not give a shit, and through that became happy because they at least aren't ignorant of their situation, they just choose not to be bothered by it
>>34917843
>Just continue the status quo and in time your long term goals will be realized.
>things I used to be interested in didn't seem interesting anymore
Feeling that way too much at the moment. Used to love playing bass, practicing every other day and going to open mic nights with my uni mates but since then I've dwindled in practice. Feeling no interest in much at all sucks big time.
>>34917893
>>34917843
>>34917879
Not him, but the moral is to have real goals instead of merely getting fit and fucking girls
>>34917843
I can't really say that iktf, but had similar situations where I literally thought I had everything.
>stopped having sex with gf
>purposely fucking shit up
>>34917893
If you're looking for a moral: I stopped being satisfied with what I have.
There are many things that can be a source of satisfaction, especially in college. Do extracurricular stuff, I joined the student business club board and helped to organise talks for students. If you're done developing yourself in your social life, start on your professional life. And if you're done with that, just run for president or something
>>34917800
Yeah you're probably right. The girl I actually liked would probably have been ok with it, but it was the first time it was really happening and I fucked up. Next time, (if it unfortunately does happen again with a girl I'm actually properly seeing) i'll tell her.
I'll look into the Citrulline, think I have some from a self made pwo. Anything to boost my confidence is helpful. I know it's not physical, just the mental aspect.
>>34917805
Haha, I think the randoms one nights it's happened with have thought that. Feel linda bad, but meh they'll get over it.
My new action plan is:
>attempt with as many randoms as possible as I don't care as much about the outcome as someone i'm seriously dating
>masturabate infrequently to vanilla thoughts
>cialis if it's with a girl i'm dating
>Look into cittruline/zinc/yohimbine for one time so I can get over this hurdle, even if just placebo
If everything is all good once, I'll know i'll be fine after that.
>>34917896
Being constantly in a state where you are acknowledging your problems, while not being able to deal with them, isn't a purposeful way of living your life.
Being in the moment is dealing with the shit you have to deal with when it comes up, keeping an eye on the future nonetheless, but not worrying about what you cannot change. If you learn to accept this fact you can start being truly happy.
>>34917942
Although it's somewhere in the line of what you're saying
>all these tren faggots getting ED
>thinking they made it
Never should have thrown away your natty card.
>>34917942
We're saying the same thing, I'm just saying you can't be truly happy with all of those obligations
>University grades
>Getting readings done
>Job is giving me shit
>OSAP might fuck me over
>Not being social enough
>Worried about parents
>Rent is due and my savings account has been drained for the past two months so I'm going to have to dip into cc again
All of this shit is constantly in the back of my head and it'll just get worse the more obligations I have. All I'm saying is that people who are truly happy are fucking braindead retards.
If you go to yoga and post shit about how great life is and how this green smoothy just changed your outlook on life I hope you fucking die.
>break up with gf 11 months ago when I found out she was cheating on me
>start taking lifting seriously, using the anger to push me through heavy sets
>be 5'11 and 180, about 14% breddy decent face, 7-8/10
>have a date with a 5'10, blonde Norwegian girl solid 7/10
>date is going really well, chatting and laughing and a bit of flirting
>she moves over to me and goes in for a snog
>start feeling dizzy and start visibly shaking
>she grabs my hand and says ''why are you shaking so bad?!''
>''h.. haha I don't know''
>we sit there with the first awkward silence we had since meeting hours ago
>she says ''well I have to get home.. I need to see erm.. something on the telly.''
>we leave and start chatting again, chuckles and banter all around
>I kiss her on the cheek and say bye, she pulls out a packet of crisps and feeds me it
>I say bye and powerwalk off
>wake up yesterday morning and she wants to meet at hers
>replied but haven't given her an answer
B.. Brehs I thought having mussels would cure the sperging out..
I've placed so many expectations on myself.
I'm emotionally above silliness like expecting to never let anyone see me fail at anything.
But sometimes I want to just like, abandon my work ethics, or my friends. Skive off on the job. Stay at home and play video games under an afghan all night every night.
But no, I feel like I'd lose too much if I let go for more than the occasional weekend of indulgence.
Basically what I learned from that time:
>the journey is the fun part - dont ever let it end. In other words, NEVER MAKE IT. or if you really have to, MAKE IT THEN DIE IMMEDIATELY AFTERWORDS.
>I never thought other human beings could possibly be so uninteresting, lame, and a huge pain in the ass to be around...out of 100 people, there are maybe ONE or TWO that are really worth knowing. Find those people. Everyone else is an NPC, a lesser human.
>if you get lucky enough to find a non-NPC girlfriend, good for you, keep her around and keep her happy even if you dont really want her anymore, so you can have children later during an opportune time in your life, instead of dismissing her because you don't give an honest fuck anymore
>don't fuck your shit up on purpose
>smoking is for fags
>I am a fag, this is how I know this
>snow kinda tastes good
>urinate on as many things as possible
>be free
>>34917591
>Cynicism is a sign of immaturity.
Le mature teenager.
>>34917604
Le Ayn Randite
Both of you are literally memes
>>34918030
>snow kinda tastes good
>urinate on as many things as possible
>be free
very inspiring
one day I may
>>34918037
But what if you ARE measurably, objectively better than 99% of other people? Are you still being cynical, or are you being a realist?
>>34918057
then you're just being a douchebag to be honest familia
>>34918016
aint nothing to it but to do it
sperg out until you dont sperg out anymore
>>34918055
The biggest moral of my story was learning to urinate everywhere in public, and I'm glad you picked up on that. Now go into your backyard naked, and yell at the top of your lungs and peepee while swinging your dick in circles. Use the hose to wash yourself off. Water's too cold? Well, then you're too much of a little bitch to go peepee everywhere...which means you need to strengthen your balls.
not made it yet but ive made significant gains
remember, the nail that sticks out gets twatted on the head
you open yourself up to more criticism when you're no longer average
>>34918010
Let me first start with: If you go out of your way to tell others that you're happy (or any cry for attention for that matter), you're doing something wrong by default.
That being said, I know those feels of pressure, especially grades, social stuff, money problems etc. and I am not denying that those things genuinely give feelings of anxiety and dread.
I'm not sure how old you are? But my best answer is that things get better. These are all things within your control, but if you start lagging behind and events start piling up it's hard to see the bright sides of life.
Try to get ahead of your game, even if that means that you will just focus on improving your grades for now. Things will get better.
>>34918096
This
The biggest problem would be the guy who is trying to make it.
But doesn't want to change their habits.
>how do I put on muscle.
Tell them.
>i also want to lose fat
Tell them they are difficult to achieve at the same time.
Tell them how
>they spout some half bro half completely wrong Sci at me.
During explaining simple proven techniques.
>interupts me to tell me he had x for dinner a week back.
Put up with it.
Take time to assist.
Bump into them a week later.
Same conversation
Same outcome
There is a cycle of about 4 different guys in the area who ask me this kinda stuff each time I bump into them.
I want to help as we were all at that stage once.
I guess the ones who made it listened though.
>This thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_sFafClcUk
>>34918057
Well if you really are in most ways better than everyone, you'll probably have better and more interesting things to do than feeling better than everybody else and being a douche about it.
>>34917308
Betas try to project their insecurities on you, especially since I'm going for a stem degree, fatties and skelly nerds try to take any opportunity they can to make them feel smarter and to put you down because they can't fathom someone in shape that's not an autist in their field
>>34918016
Where do you live breh
>>34918124
People who really want to change, will just do it instead of talking to everyone about it. Had the same problem with fat unatractive friend of mine, was telling that he gained weight (but it was all muscle) while literally shoving a piece of cake in his face (not even memeing this actually happened). 4 years later he's still a kissless virgin and now also losing his hair. Some people just want things without working for it.
>>34917783
cialis helped me, man
basically after two failed attempts i took it and it was win
never had to use it again afterwards
>>34918147
Essex m8
>>34917564
>tfw I've learned to fake being normal when talking to girls purely throughly observation
>>34918221
I can fake it too, but only for 10min max, afterwards i run out of shit to smalltalk with and aspie will show
>>34918221
>through observation
anyone else do this?
If I get in a situation I haven't been in before I sperg the fuck out and I watch how someone else handles it.
After that I will do that exact same thing every time to handle the situation
>>34918221
go full crazy mode like frank yang
eccentric people still get laid
>>34918180
This is exactly what i'm hoping happens to me.
How long did you take it before?
Did you test any before hand?
>>34917308
Literally everyone is afraid of me
6'2" 225 12% 22, lifting 7 years
>>34917511
>tfw I can only take compliments that I feel are justified
Few and far between with my low self-esteem though
>>34918285>>34918285
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>>34918158
Agreed.
>>34918264
>>34918253
Observation is the first step in learning, just keep up talking to people
>all these cunts talking about ED
>tfw can get a rock hard erection on command
oh I am laffin'
>>34918379
Despite being a sperg I'm actually very good at communicating with people, but its all sort of just a show.
I'm just regurgitating what I've seen others do before.
For example, if I had a girl hit on me I'd have no idea what to do.
I actually can't tell when they're hitting on me and just being nice...
>>34917596
this is thin privilege
>>34918276
>eccentric people who spend all day in the gym and have parents worth hundreds of millions still get laid
you should think of a better example
>>34917746
it's not about libido, it's about mental stimulation
porn ruins that
>>34918473
M8, are you me?
Shit like this happens all the time with me.
And I only find out a girl was hitting on me months later when I think of the situation
Shit's bad man
>>34918016
>I kiss her on the cheek and say bye, she pulls out a packet of crisps and feeds me it
Are you a dog?
>>34918535
i normally never figure it out at all lmao
>>34917591
>feeling better than everyone
>cynicism
wait hold on am I using the right word?
yeah, you're just projecting now.
>>34917604
I've seen this before and some points are valid (mostly the touchy feely Confucius types)
But then some are just lefty drivel that will get you killed
>making friends more important than safety
>blames self for world, super kek
>thinks listening works, ooga booga where my apartheid at
>>34918037
Thank you.
>>34918057
Wait, I thought we were talking about cynicism?
>>34918016
>I kiss her on the cheek and say bye, she pulls out a packet of crisps and feeds me it
Doesn't matter how much I keep improving my body, my dick won't grow
>tfw 5 inches length, not even thick
>tfw making me insecure, it's always in the back of my mind when I interact with qts
>>34918636
is there any point breh?
heart attack
>>34918636
bitch nigga as long as you give them the ol natty lickaroo they won't give a fuck. Unless you're also manlet or/and balding and have bad social skills.
>>34918636
I lost 90 lbs and my dick grew about 2 inches bruh
>tfw now I have a 3 inch penis
>>34917979
U rite u rite
>>34918636
>tfw 1.5inch flaccid.
>tfw 6'9 120kg.
The eyes on girls if they see it flaccid >.> just kill me pls.
>>34918743
>have mild ED
>grower not a shower
>like 1.5inch flaccid at best (5.5 hard)
>she reaches down
>it's still soft
>FUCK FUCK FUCK
>her face when
hold me fit
>>34918743
I'm a grower too Anon.
Nofap showed me how easy it was to maintain semi hard almost at will.
You're all a bunch of lo test faglets.
You do realise you are getting keked as we speak by your inferiors?
When I was beta 55kg tier cardiofag I still pulled bitches shit you'd think I was using a net, such was the baiting.
The only downside is that you're a kektier faggot because grills are literally beaches and shores until they reach landwhale cumdumpster status where they actively seek you fags.
BEAT THE SYSTEM
What are 'grills#' doing right now? Campaigning for their miles of dick and tyrone to kek you faggots.
WAKE THE FUCK UP.
Whats the point of lifting everyday for nothing. DESU VULT
My butts gotten so but that I can't go no-wipe-poo anymore since I smell like shit.
>>34919528
I lift because it's the only progress in life that is truly dependent only on me and my efforts.
anti-downsides post
>meet a new girl who's down to bone
>one of those qt asian hipsters
>has only banged skinnyfat male hipsters
>can legit feel her fucking clawing at my newly developed back muscles
>>34919934
banging hipsters is always fun because they're used to skinnyfat nu-males
> 23% bf because bulked stupidly
> gf gets back from two months abroad
> keeps mentioning how "strong" I look
> mfw bearmode and starting a cut to look swole af in a few months
Took a girl girl home on Friday, fucked her all weekend, and she was only interested in my abs. I've never worked my abs, pure genetics.
>girls touching your bÃceps - chest without asking for permission to do it
>they just touch them and then stare
Thats uncomfortable desu
Tbh
Jealousy. Every DYEL I know makes passive aggressive comments towards me, like "hurr durr that meal got enuff PROTEEIN 4 u", it's like fuck off, I get that you don't lift, now shut the fuck up and let me. I don't badger you about being a DYEL loser who's never accomplished anything.
>>34917538
Get some real friends m8.
>>34917308
My girlfriend is really insecure about herself because she thinks I'm model tier (yeah, I don't think so) and thinks she's hideous
>>34918278
>>34918180
I would like to know too.
>went to doctor
>he said I'm perfectly healthy and there's no real reason for me to not get boners when I have sex
>won't give me viagra cause I'm only 19
I fap like twice a week to kill the pain, though I know it's dumb. Right now I'm trying to not fap at all though
what do when gf complains about self esteem issues and is all sad on the phone and i can't rel8??? im just like "oh dont say these things! that's not true! you know it's not true! " but idk i dont feel very useful and tbqh they kinda bore me and i lose attention and just go on 4chan or smth
talking about this. do u guys enjoy talking on the phone with your gf? i almost invariably get bored but we have lots of fun when we're together physically
>>34924364
how do u deal with this? how's your relationship with her? is it affected by this? i run into similar issues with my gf (but not cause of my looks, just achievements and stuff)
>>34917703
>>34917652
>>34917685
>>34924535
>tfw not alone
My gf complains all the time about this. I just can't fucking get hard for sex. I was into fetishes for like a few years, and now I simply can't into sex. It terrorizes me and it makes her super depressed. The fuck do i do. I think it's anxiety by now cause I know how many times I fucked up by not being able to stay hard, and I know it's gonna happen again. Fuck my life. I'm not even upset that I don't have sex, I'm just sad for my GF that she has to endure this and we're both in our early 20s
>>34923088
Holy christ reading that is hilarious. I'm still DYEL I think, but I'm starting to get a few comments like that.
>>34924655
I'm >>34924535
When I do fap, it makes me remember how much I don't want a gf and its nice, but then I get the feelings of >tfw no fob or something like that the next day.
>>34924610
Who the fuck knows what to say to women when they go on one of their self esteem issue rants. They need girlfriends for that shit not guys because we fucking suck at telling them what they want to hear. They spill their shit to their girl friends about how they don't feel pretty and they'll get hundreds of "girrrrrrl you look great!" But from us all they'll get is a "dunno why you feel like that".
If only there was a way to make a girl get all her emotional needs taken care of by her friends and leave the normal shit to us
>>34924687
>"dunno why you feel like that".
lmao that's totally me. makes me feel better that im not the only one completely useless when it comes to dealing with these episodes
>>34924655
dude, focus on how good it feels. Clear your mind of "fuck i hope i dont get soft!!!" thats what causes it.
Try meditation so you can control your thoughts.
Also, cardio helps. IDK why, but it helps me.
ALSO, NEVER THINK "wow, i hope she doesnt tell her friends and they'll laugh at me". doesn't matter.
Sex shouldn't be a chore, it should be fun.
>>34924622
I told her "I wouldn't waste my time with you if I didn't think you were hot". We have a pretty passionate relationship, I just have to remind her that she's beautiful every now and then. It does feel good how often she tries to take my shirt off though
>>34917843
>MAYBE 5%
CMON
>>34917843
>"I'm not good enough for you this is my fault" blah blah blah
Dealing with rn cause shitty sex drive. Fuck you world
>masturbating to yourself in the mirror
cmon bros I know im not alone...i still get le tang on the reg so it's not gay
>>34917308
The jailbait that want your dick but you know you can't do anything with them.
>mfw made it and i dont even lift
>>34917538
>>34917538
I've been a cynic before I "made it"
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cynic
Second definition describes it pretty well.
>>34917308
>making it
>implying life isn't a constant struggle to push yourself to new heights
>making it
You haven't made it yet breh. Maybe you're /fit/ physically, but you're not /mentalfit/
And that's why you have problems
>>34925100
>>implying life isn't a constant struggle to push yourself to new heights
>that edgy pseudo-intellectualism
never gonna make it kid
>>34925111
>implying it's pseudo intellectualism
Enjoy mediocrity
>>34925119
k tard
>be 22 years old
>6'2 200 lbs low bf%
>feel like 18 years old
>used to be 6'2 170 lbs
It sucks. I'm attractive, but my confidence with women is still as if I'm dyel.
Fuck.
I'm 22 and still kissless virgin, should i just pay a prostitute?
I don't think i'm ugly, and my body is decent, my problem is that i suck at making new friends, both males and females.
I've had some girls hit on me in these years but i fucked it up every time fpr differeng reasons, the last one was a girl iny friend group but i didn't want her cause she's the ex of two pf my best friends and ahe's cray.
Idk what to do really, what can i do to get over my fear of meeting new people?
>>34918568
I like you
>>34925334
i think u should just go meet some people and stop being a faggot
>>34917308
I can never score a qt 7.5/10 gf and Ill only bang 6-9/10 whores who will leave once I cum and Ill never find true love
>>34918016
I feel for you brother. I get the shakes when presenting, so much so that people have asked me if I was having a seizure. Talk to the doc about Propranolol to take around times that give you the shake and not long term. It is not meant to be a long term solution, but rather curb the physical symptoms of your anxiety while you learn to relax.
Dont abandon ship on the girl. She's willing to work with you. Even if nothing comes out of it you'll still grow from it
>>34917308
I actually miss my belly. It was so soft to touch. Now it's hard and not so soft. Also, seeing the end of my belly button is super weird.
>>34925564
>Also, seeing the end of my belly button is super weird.
This
But fuck having a belly. Gone and good riddance
>>34918253
>>34918264
>>34918276
honestly hanging out with black people did me a world of good when it comes to social situations.
i had to work at a shitty fast food job for a year, I was the only white dude.
it just kinda taught me to stop caring so much about how I come across to other people, there isn't much you can do once they form judgments of you.
basically just be yourself and try to be silly and self aware about it
>>34917717
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAH dude thanks for that. Actually laughing my ass off right now.
people constantly commenting on your muscles, the gym, how strong you are, advice.
women finding reasons to touch shoulders, arms, chest.
being asked to assist in manual labour tasks in the workplace.
people pigeon-hole you as a meat head at first glance, but I find once you break that stereotype they come to love you a lot more than they would have otherwise.
i've noticed guys with girlfriends/or are orbiting a girl try to talk me down to the girl about shit like "oh he does steroids; trying too hard; probably compensating; dumb meathead" w/e.
gay guys check you out a lot more, thanks gay guys.
and honestly I get warm way too easy compared to before I lifted, I really hate feeling overheated.
Realising how most women are big whores for anyone with muscles.
Nothing reduces your opinion of women like getting /fit/
>>34917604
All of this is subjective to your individual situations.
People who are obsessed with facts often believe they know everything.
People obsessed with having friends often are obsessed with status.
Knowing limits is often a mask of fear.
Whoever made this is a pseudo intellectual.
>>34925413
Yup. It's ok but >tfw no love
>>34925135
different anon here, enjoy mediocrity I wish I could enlighten you
I have a girlfriend who is totally my type but I miss chasing girls
>>34925689
i dont get it what's wrong with that
>>34925726
Yeah that's funny af actually, my gym bro and I went to Universal studios over the summer and we passed a lanklet with his gf and as we walked by he whispered " Wow those two must be muscle power bottoms" pretty sad that they need to vent their insecurities out like that to feel better.
>>34925859
bitch bye
>>34918636
Im in the same boat brah
>>34917843
>>34917879
Zero sympathy desu senpai. You got arrogant and thought you'd made it because you could get your dick wet. The truth of the matter is that you should never make it. There should always be another goal to smash and your ambitions limitless.
Holly Holm just knocked the fuck out of the golden girl of MMA, won the UFC title and said after the fight that she's not done and still has things she needs to accomplish. You set the bar low and were too proud of your accomplishments.
The fact that you actually felt you needed to fuck your shit up for a challenge rather than find a worthwhile one proves that you never made it in the first place.
>>34919768
that's literally most physical and mental activities you dumbfuck
>>34926012
you can make it while still having goals.
this is what you and >>34925859 >>34925111
these idiots don't understand
>>34925879
sadly strangers will talk shit on you regardless.
I've always been fat as fuck but I remember going to the mall when I was younger with my cousin.
we passed two girls and one said something to the other like
>'ohhh how about THAT one?'
I'll never forget the look of disgust on her face when she looked at me
>'eww NOO'
>they both started laughing
fucking cunts they were.
at least keep it subtle if you're going to do that shit
honestly I don't get it. it happens all the time.
i remember walking around an art gathering with a very qt girl with a pixie cut and some faggot says to his gf
>'is that a GUY?!'
i know she heard him but I'm too beta to do anything.
FUCK PEOPLE
>>34918519
This is weird cause I used to jerk it to porn 8-9 times a day (not overexaggerating either, I remember my friends lol'd at me when I told them) and I still wake up with my a diamond dick every morning. Im not 15 either Im 23. So I always find it unbelievable that people can fuck up their libido that easy.
>>34918519
Bullshit, you must be a fagit. Go fuck guys not chicks fagit.
>>34925015
This! A million times this!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>34917652
>tfw can get diamond hard at a whim but for the life of me I can't cum ;_;
>>34926065
implying you can truly make it without achieving perfection.
>>34917564
This is true. Put yourself out there and you will develop socially.
>>34918037
Le?
Get the fuck out
>was always outgoing and fun but not flirty because fat
>lose 100lbs this year
>finally start going out these last few weeks to talk to girls
>tall dark handsome and inspiring to people when I tell my tale
>get tons of girls' phone numbers over the last few weeks
>they are all super fucking boring to talk to
jesus christ I'm so let down, I can't believe it
>>34917685
If it's anxiety then eventually you'll get over it. Just keep trying.
Also being slightly intoxicated helps.
I hate having to listen to people bitch about how difficult it is to succeed in life when it honestly isn't hard at all. Once you reach a certain level of success you can see that the same principles can be applied to almost every area in life. But I will never reveal these principles...
>>34917763
The girl you want in your life is one that will accept it.
Eventually you will overcome this. Just keep trying.
>>34927705
>>34927689
>all super boring to talk to
welcome to life as a straight man
>>34927745
I wish every day that I was gay, god it would be so much better. Girls are shit tier companions unless you find that one super cool one that was raised by a single cool dad or something and even then she's probably fucked in the head
>>34918307
i do this too
why can't i just gracefully take a compliment?
>>34918307
Man I do the same thing
>wow anon you lost so much weight, you're super skinny!
>no I'm not I just look skinny in comparison, I've still got a slightly high body fat composition
>....oh okay
i still hate myself too much to accept false compliments
>>34925764
I interpreted each goat as a different behavior, where one person can have several immature behaviors and several mature behaviors.
I don't think the artist is saying people are never both obsessed with facts and know-it-alls.
I think they're saying that we should aspire to eliminating our immature behaviors & adopting mature ones.
>>34917617
>Mom tells me that I'm ugly because of muscle and my melted away tits
it's really sad when parent's are jealous of their own children.
>>34927837
>tfw you get fit
>your parents are inspired and want you to help them
>they do okay for a week and then binge eat/drink on their days off
>you tell them you're trying to save them from themselves but they just get super pissed off
its bullshit, I hate people who ask for assistance and don't bother listening
>>34918016
>I kiss her on the cheek and say bye, she pulls out a packet of crisps and feeds me it
>I say bye and powerwalk off
lost my shit for some reason
The downsides I've experimented on my road to making it (because Im not there yet) are:
1) being A LOT FUCKING MORE critic on how others behave related to fitness and their own health, and the bullshit excuses they make to be lazy and just let them explode
2) being a lot more careful on selecting bitches for long term relationships... sure I see a girl and I would fuck her brains out, but I find myself less turned on by average 4/10 skankwhores
3) I realized that counting calores and macros will be along with me my whole life. I dont think this is a bad thing because there will be small periods when I can let go for a couple days (maybe a week) and the impact will be minimum
any others I remember I'll post them
1/?
>>34917685
Almost definitely just anxiety man. Had the same thing, and always would be hooking up then all of a sudden worry that I wouldn't be able to get it up and bam erection gone. Suffered sexual anxiety for a year or two and turned down dozens of girls because I was scared I would disappoint them/they would laugh at me. The way I got over it was instead of going for ONS's, found a girl I really liked and trusted and even though it happened once at the start, she was cool with it and next time it was fine. Now it's not even an issue at all. Just gotta get through it. But don't worry anon there's nothing wrong with you, it's just your mind sabotaging you. You're gonna be ok and slammin birds before you know it
>>34917763
see>>34928007
And If I were you, I wouldn't use Viagra or anything. Its probably not ED, there's probably nothing wrong with you BESIDES you psyching yourself out. Find a girl you genuinely like, and a big part is focus on making her feel good instead of worrying about you. I know it fucking sucks so bad but you can and will get over it
>>34918057
if you're better than everyone then you have an obligation to provide for them
>>34928091
not the same guy, but what?? hell no, every man for himself, I wont be picking the litter from other NEITHER fixing their shit
>>34918838
Was she a virgin? Girls aren't that stupid despite what this board will tell you.
I've found it almost impossible to make friends. I used to be short and fat, during my formative years, and this may sound crazy, but it's been really hard for me to deal with being tall and muscular. Most guys hate me and want to take me down a notch at all times. I can't talk to most girls without sexual attraction being there. I don't know how to handle it. I can't go back to being a quiet introvert because my very presence is loud now. The halo effect makes anybody I see, even my old friends, think that any hint of social anxiety on my part is me being rude and thinking myself above them instead of being too afraid to talk. I intimidate people without even realizing it until later. People are jealous of me. It feels like I polarize everyone I see. I got what I wanted but I don't know how to live with it yet.
>>34917314
This
>>34928134
I guess what I'm saying is, I need to completely rework my social approach, cause the currently habitual ones I learned as a short fat guy don't apply any more. Feels weird man.
>>34920697
>23% bf because bulked stupidly
what in the fuck
ishyddt
>>34918030 tip for finding cool people to hang out with. If they listen to more than 3 radio songs in a row they aren't worth the time. Works 90% of the time. You'll lose some but for some reason listeners of exclusively pop music are those super peppy cookie cutter people who love work but some how seem empty on the inside. Try it out. Met a couple awesome people doing this
>>34925666 Satan what have we said about your time on the internet
>All this ED stories
>I literally get diamond hard boner just hugging a girl
>Cum fastly, but just switch condom and continue on for at least half an hour
>Never checked my test levels
>Squat 3-4 times a week
You guys are just retarded probably.
>>34918016
I too indeed got the shakes when about to share intimate moments with women. I think about it like the awkwardness of old you spilling out violently. Very much like pooping with diarrhoea after several days of not pooping with an all fiber diet.
In all seriousness, this'll disappear very quickly with some more experience. Feel free to be embarrassed by it, it's natural to be embarrassed when showing "weakness" in public. But don't be ashamed of it. It happened to the best of us.
>>34925334
trial and error, meight.
>>34918558
Kekd
>>34917308
>People making jokes about steroids
>So much thigh chafing
>>34918278
>>34924535
it was 30-60 minutes before and i didnt test it, since it came from legit pharmacy (my doctor was a bro and prescribed it to me)
it may have been a placebo effect, since once i was inside, nothing ever keeped me out lol
good luck to you fellas
>>34917308
>Post ITT about the problems you experience after making it
can't post in cbt thread or get attacked by buttmad turbojellies
>>34927782
Just say
>thanks, I'm getting there
>>34917672
rofl, is being a teenager hard friendo?
>tfw girls mirin my body
>tfw girls want to talk to me
>tfw spaghetti falls over everytime girls talk to me
hold me fit
>tfw go from nerd in school to millionaire in my early 20s
>Bored everyday of my life because I don't have to work ever again
>All my life goals i set out 5 years ago were done in 1 year
What do? Life is so boring. Should I just marry my gf and have kids? that's something to do, right?
>>34917511
>>34917308
lol avataring with Koshie ayy m8
>>34929090
Life can always be interesting. Start traveling, meet new people.
Start reading books that inspire you and try to emulate the greatness.
Help people around you with the shitload of money youve got. Give some to science, give some to helping poor kids get an education,
Shit, I could go on and I want to BELIEVE.
>could never get it up on nights out/first time with a girl
>have a good physique/am not socially retarded so pull often but turn people down for sex because of this
>thought i'd never get into a relationship due to this
>luck out completely and end up dating girl for 3 years
>took me months to get comfortable enough to have sex
>broke up last week and even though I'm worried about my erection stuff again it's not enough to go back
It's weird, I know it's nerves, but it's still a problem. I've brought girls back and just ate them out until they've came without fucking multiple times out of worry.
>brought back girl I had liked for ages
>she's sucking me off
>noboner.jpg
>flaccid my dick is 4 inches max, erect 6.
>thinks I have a small dick I know it
>just finger and eat her out
>wake up next day
>my entire bedsheets are covered in blood
>i had fingered her to the point of tearing the skin inside her vagoo apart, or she had come on
life is suffering
>>34928846
This
>>34929090
Tell me how
>>34929154
How? What do you want to know?
>>34929156
How to become a millionaire, of course
>>34929177
Well, In 2010 I had a part time job and built a new PC, and then I discovered what bitcoins were and started mining them with a friend, We both had decent mining PCs back then. We hid the computers in his mums basement smashing bitcoin mining for a year or so, checking it every few weeks to see how it was going. We managed to mine about 4,000 odd bitcoins and bought about 8,000 with pocket money when thye were like 10c each. Someone on the bitcoin boards said that they will skyrocket in the next 5 years (which they did) so I bought as many as I could until they went to $2 each. We had about 20,000 of the things, spent about 5k on these virtual currencies. We ended up giving up on them and selling them at $620 a piece when we were 23. I'm 25 now and I wish I bought more. I am pretty much NEET but I have millions of dollars. Pro tip: Should have invested in bitcoins, kids.
>>34929210
I don't believe you, but if it is true well done. You gambled and it payed off
>>34929222
Eh, Being rich isn't what I think it would be like. I have all this money, but it's still depressing.
>>34926050
Almost everything else involves other people directly. Want to start a business? You need a customer or customers. Want to date? You need another person for that.
>>34929239
Spot me 20k and I'll make sure we have a good week.
I'm pretty well off but after splitting up with my partner recently money doesn't mean anything if you've got no one to spend it with.
>you have a great six pack!
>well actually I don't think it counts if it's not showing unless you're flexing
Because a simple "Haha thanks" is way too difficult to come up with of course
>>34929251
Money won't bring you happiness. The only thing that will make you happy is a loving partner and good friends. Material goods are only a short term fix for happiness.
>>34917843
if youre still in college youre a fucking child
also TLDR
>>34923088
ive gotten this kind of shit from my brother and some of my close friends
i wish it was socially acceptable to beat the shit out of people sometimes
>Having to buy some new clothes
>Specially elastic jeans as regular ones don't fit as well
And that's it, because I worked on fixing my personality issues first instead of trying to lift the autismo away.
>>34928134
its good to know im not alone in feeling this way
it was a revelation for me to realize strangers and even old friends were afraid of me
i was in the army and went from being a hungry skeleton nerd to 220lbs 6'3'' ex military psycho
people are afraid of me, even close friends and family because in the military it was socially acceptable to fight all the time and discuss in detail how to kill someone with a knife and i havent been able to shake that part of my personality. now people call the cops if i just tackle them or twist their arm
i wish i could go back but i think its too late
>>34929256
>tfw some 8/10 girl asked for a picture of my abs in a jokingly kind of way
>send it flexing hard & with great lighting/angles she sends little heart eyes
>she starts to asks for more pics of the v lines going to my dick
>tfw legit 8x6
>impressed the living fuck out of this girl
the next day when we hooked up she told me my abs looked better in the pictures. can't impress no whore anymore even with a 8x6 these hoes just want everything Instagram perfect even the basic bitches.
>>34925879
you should a told him to fuck off.If he got in your face you coulda rocked him.
>>34917308
>people on /fit/
>making it meme
>>34917763
>>34917703
>>34917652
Maybe stop taking roids or other chemicals that fuck with your physical health
a little extra muscle is not worth it
>>34929401
don't give her the whole thing for free dummy. that's just common sense.
>>34929266
Said the dyel who has never competed in his life.
>>34929401
>she told me my abs looked better in the pictures
Should have said the same thing about her face.
>>34918146
Exactly this.
Betas are constantly defensive around you because they feel insulted that you have BOTH looks and smarts, when all their lives all they had for them was "at least I'm smarter". When they see you they don't have this excuse anymore, and that forces them to realize that they are just lazy faggots despite doing a STEM degree.
>>34929486
>>34929528
Thanks brehs i'll learn.
>>34917308
Mirin threads tend to leave out the fact that IRL 99% of mires are from ugly/old/dangerously underage grills that you have no interest in banging.
You'll also rapidly discover that lots of the men that you know are secretly gay as they'll start flirting/mirin/spilling their spaghetti once you start getting aesthetic
Salty niggers will also start muttering about steroids and whatnot behind your back, especially fat chicks
>>34929591
>dangerously underage grills that you have no interest in banging.
>>34919528
>DESU VULT
>>34929620
Of course I'd bang them nigger, I just don't want to get 10-15 years for fucking a 13 year old
>>34917763
stop fapping you dumb cancer idiot
and buy a fleshlight to fap with instead
>>34917879
>>34917843
Post pics of yourself, or you're a deluded DYEL fedora
>>34926012
BTFO
Based anon give us more wisdom
>>34917703
Stop wanking and score viagra. If it's happened that many times I have no idea why you haven't done this yet.
>>34918016
>>34925499
That's honestly the only reason I ever take Phenibut.
It isn't a miracle drug or does it take away the anxiety, it just takes away the physical symptoms which helps a lot.
I've noticed my chest doesn't tighten up and I don't feel like I'm about to be attacked at any moment, it's a good feel.
>>34927705
nobody gives a fuck jew pepe
>>34918133
Underrated kek.
"I'm just a Maserati in a world of kia's"
A lot more dudes tend to "bow up" to you. It's as if a little muscle mass makes you some sort of threat to the common normie
>finally look good
>gonna be 23 in a week
>tfw no gf or side bitch etc.
>"how are you still not getting girls man??"
>>34925666
Black man here, can agree with these lots of niggas don't give a fuck
>>34930712
White man here, that is all.
Girlfriend thinks I'm gonna leave her it's annoying but whatever I'm not
>>34918558
holy fuck i laughed
>>34917604
this pic is so fucking retarded and you should be ashamed for posting it
