Scooby claims to care about exercise safety but teaches all his fans to fuck up their shoulders.
Someone should tell his that you're not supposed to press above your head in that plane (or even worse, behind your head) That'll eventually fuck up your shoulder.
>>34912934
*him and plain
sorry about the typos
He's a fag got that uses steroids to make up for his incredibly bad form. He's just like everyone else on /fit/. Who cares if people ruin their bodies due to poor instruction, less people in the gym.
>>34912934
He is in frontal plane. How else is hr supposed to shoulder press?
>>34912971
You have to have an angle between your body and arms of at least 30 degree, he has almost 0.
>>34913024
Wut? Elaborate anon
>Hurr durr I'm a retard
Scooby has been training this way for 30 years without an injury
wtf op
>>34913065
He has had a shoulder injury, though that looks like good form on the dumbbell press there
>>34913092
when?
>>34913065
Arnold was also doing stupid stuff like dumbbell flys. That doesn't mean that you're also gonna get away with it without major injury.
>>34913053
If you lift above your head like that, your arms and the dumbbells should be more ahead of you and not in the plain of your body.
Look up why behind-the-neck press is bad, this is almost as bad for the same reason.
>>34913053
Not him but that Justin guy from 70s big said you should keep your at ~45° to your torso. That was for OHP tho. Also I'm DYEL who does bodyweight
>>34913053
This is how it should be done. That angel between your arms and body is very important.
>>34913146
could you find the video?
>>34913163
Why kneel on Bench rather than stand eh?
>>34913490
So you can't cheat by pushing with your knees, but still use the core more than sitting
>>34913490
harder to cheat this way would be my guess, so same reason Scooby does everything seated
>>34913539
I've started lifting following Gooby's program and did OHP only seated, and now I can't even lift the same weight while standing. My lower back is too weak. T-thanks Scoob
>>34912947
plane was actually correct
>>34912971
he is not in the frontal plane, look at his elbows. they are stuck out to the side, instead of in front of and in line with his shoulders.
that is literally how you impinge your shoulders 101
>>34913578
>o I c ok ty
>>34913619
No if I did I would go to /r/fitness
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34913107
He had the surgery 2 or 3 years ago I think? I can't remember what he said the problem was or what caused it exactly
>>34913116
Arnold has also had shoulder surgery done
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34913116
>>34913651
Arnie and Stallone
This thread is full of dumb.
Unless you have bad shoulder flexibility DB pressing like that is fine and is a good way to target the lateral deltoid. Behind the neck presses and pulldowns require quite a bit more flexibility to be safe, but if you can do them and keep your upper back tight and shoulder blades retracted it's not a bad movement.
I should also note that there are some pulldown machines (which rock) that let you bring the handles down beside the head (as they're lever/plate loaded machines), never heard of anybody getting injured using those.
tl;dr behind the neck and frontal plane moves can fuck your shoulders up, but can also be totally safe if you have adequate flexibility
>>34913651
>Arnold has also had shoulder surgery done
and two pec tears, but people still do dumbbell flys after reading his book
>>34913643
Good form, pupper
>>34913634
Good form pupper
>>34913673
>Behind the neck presses and pulldowns require quite a bit more flexibility to be safe, but if you can do them and keep your upper back tight and shoulder blades retracted it's not a bad movement.
You also have to do babby as shit weight with them.
Klokov does some behind the neck presses for warm up and prehab, and I find them useful and nice personally so I don't see what the fuss is about really.
>>34913116
>stupid stuff like dumbbell flys
Since when are dumbbell flys stupid?
>>34913705
His father was USSR Olympian champion. Lord knows what they did to him from age 0 to create a superathlete.
>>34913737
He does his behind the neck presses with decent weight tho. For me it's unimaginable, like I'm maybe using a tenth of the weight he uses. Still a good way to hit parts of the back you don't normally.
>>34913705
>btn press
>prehab
yea, prehabilitating your shoulders right into impingement..
>>34913634
Good form, pupper
>>34913651
apparently here's the back story
http://scoobysworkshop.com/2010/09/16/my-shoulder-surgery-scoobys-experience-with-the-medical-system/
>>34913761
I've been doing quite a bit of btn pressing (push, strict, snatch grips) for the past year since I started wl and have had no issues with it. Pretty much everyone at my gym does and I don't think I've ever seen a shoulder injury yet. Some guys are reasonably strong too.
I don't think it's as dangerous and everyone says.
>>34913761
It's really not an issue if your shoulder mobility is fine.
>>34912934
Why does everyone love Scooby? He looks bad, his calorie calculator is different to the other 2 I have used and now others are realising his form is bed too
>>34913866
These are very delicate things inside your shoulders, mobility won't help enough. But you'll only realize there's a problem when it's too late.
>>34913846
Oh god, I remember asking my mom for a kitten after I came home from some surgery on my skull and was still a little whacked out by the whole thing.
>>34913889
Okay grandma enough with your scare stories
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34913651
I think scooby hurt himself posing.
he's a homosexual subversive
trying to destroy america
>>34913651
>>34913846
>there was nothing mechanically wrong
>massive inflammation of unknown cause
lol this retard literally fucks up his shoulder with this bad form workout, wasted $3000 and still has no idea
>>34913949
>the Scooby is gay meme
He's married you dumb faggot
>>34913555
do you not deadlift?
>>34913876
there are few people who do what he does for free and are talented
at making videos. it's also an older guy with a very good body.
too bad that his teachings are poorly researched or outdated
>>34913985
There is no BB in my "gym"
>>34913876
he viraled/shilled/marketed his channel here frequently while trying to cash in on dank maymays and a lot of idiots and homosexuals think he's some sort of fitness genius
>>34913876
because he used to post here
>>34913411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqKhLR1zRaU
>>34914165
>nicolas cage the bar
and closed
Here's that angle and what fucks up Scooby's shoulders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMvzUDwaBeA#t=165
>>34914336
If you know how to contact him, tell him that what he's been doing for 20 years once a week is fucking wrong and he's hurting himself and teaching people to hurt themselves.
>>34913846
rofl
is this guy an idiot
"wow how wonderful, I get the best availible treatment!"
"omg it's awful, i had to pay money!"
>Here’s the kicker, the surgery did not fix my problem!
Because its self-inflicted lol
>>34914336
fug, I've been doing scooby presses. Should I still aim to keep my shoulders down and back, or in a natural position?
>>34914336
>>34914348
>>34914458
here's some more detailed explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw3r2lytys8
would be a good idea to email this thread to him :)
>>34912934
Behind the neck presses are totally fine if you've got good mobility.
I do them with a barbell and I'm totally fine.
>trusting a Jew, ever.
>>34914621
watch this: >>34914585
>>34914637
I don't care, I've got an actual coach and my programming has them.
>>34914664
that guy is a better coach than your coach
>>34914664
>I don't care that there is visual evidence of a damaging mechanism because I'm a sheep
>>34914718
>broscience youtube channel
>knows better than the guy that coaches one of the most successful national powerlifting teams in the world
Ok.
>>34914759
Do them correctly and it's fine. I train with people that have been doing this kind of programming for over 20 years and are injury free.
>>34914664
Retract the scapula enough and lean back slightly lowers the risk significantly, still theres literally no benefit gained from doing behind the neck pressing that you cant gain from other, safer excercises.
>>34913675
>dumbbell flys
I've seen that dumbell flys are despised [spoiler]on reddit and[/spoiler] on some youtube channel ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Y3WDY1tUo )
Flys on a 15 degrees bench have just been inserted in my new routine by my PT (inb4 never pay for a PT: I didn't, it's free in my gym to have a routine drawn every 8 weeks maximum - progress review is encouraged - and all PTs have a degree and a decent public CV) and I've been taught to do them exactly like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eozdVDA78K0 (+ the warning contained in the first comment down there and much more)
I don't know how much should I weight in opinions expressed on a filipino transexual escort forum, but I believe in arguments so.. if you have any, let's hear those
>>34914718
>>34914759
Jeff Cavaliere is a charlatan and a shill with an exaggerated and overhyped resume to sell the gullible crap.
I even know what's in that video without having to watch it again. He has to stick the skeletal model in an incredibly unnatural position with a close up to hide how ridiculous the movement looks as he makes up a problem for himself to fix.
The small grain of truth in that is yes certain movements may contribute to inflammation and shoulder impingement over time, but the fact is it's really quite difficult to impinge your shoulder outside of a couple of specific movements, and when you do it or anything that contributes to it you can probably feel it.
>>34914841
kill yourself my man
>>34914843
yeah yeah, he's aggressive marketing his software plan
but his education and experience are real
>>34914866
You sure convinced me. Anything else?
>>34913960
Yeah....to a guy
>>34914841
Shoulder prehab is king and most of the time it's people that do no prehab whatsoever that end up having problems they were bound to have anyway blaming random exercises. Look up mobility drills like shoulder dislocations and windmills and do them regularly. Look up even basic prehab exercises and also do them regularly. Isometrics should be a staple for prehab here too
How can I stream the ronda fight tonight?
>>34914165
Am I the only one that thinks he is taking the wide grip he cautions against when he does the demonstration at the end?
>>34914843
No, this is not fucking rocket science.
See that vertical blade-like shit called Acromion? You're slowly grinding down your Bursa and tendons and possibly muscles if you do press like this.
Visual illustration:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shoulder_joint.svg
>>34914109
Kill yourself
>>34914879
>Look up mobility drills like shoulder dislocations and windmills and do them regularly
Would scapular shrugs, band dislocates and wall extensions be enough? I'm looking up the windmill, is it this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUJuKBj701Y ?
>>34914868
>he's aggressive marketing his software plan
He's aggressively marketed everything since he left the Mets. He even tried to sell what he thought was their training program p much immediately after he left totally of his own volition.
>>34912964
jefplsgo
>>34914944
That is one kind. I do mine standing up and going all the way up and down rather than levelling off at the shoulder. That doesn't look like a bad thing to do to me tho, what he's doing looks like it's doing a few good things at once.
>>34914944
Rotator cuff mobility every single day. Every single day. Let me stress that you should be doing rotator cuff mobility work every single day. If there is one piece of advice for shoulder prehab, I'd say do rotator cuff mobility every single day. God speed, anon.
>>34913634
good form pupper
>>34913876
He's been teaching since the universe was created. His yt account is the first fitness based one and his website has been around since forever. He hasn't charged anyone shit and most of his ideas are helpful. He's a genuine nice person. If he looks so bad, lets see a picture of you faggot.
>>34914940
It moves you genius.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CnBmiBqp-AI
At about 6m30s Rippetoe gives a great explanation of what happens in any pressing movement using a real life model. He also tells you how to impinge your shoulder if you desperately want to.
>>34914967
>>34914970
Thank you.
>Rotator cuff, rotator cuff, rotator cuff
This? http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/PDFs/Rehab_Shoulder_5.pdf , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luoiGpT4PJ8
>>34915065
>The way we teach the squat........ uhhh...... the press
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34914585
That's BTP genius. Scooby literally never taught anyone that.
>>34915080
I've seen that pdf before and yes it's good. I'm withholding judgement on the video since I haven't seen a lot of that sort of thing before but I think it looks potentially okay.
>>34915065
Interesting. But that's a different exercise, he's not doing press behind the neck.
There's clearly and asymmetry here, and forward operation of the arms is much less problematic.
>>34915096
Go ahead and explain how Scooby presses are a different movement.
>>34915080
That PDF was overcomplicated. That video has everything you need to do on it. Do the stretches when you wake up while you get ready for the day, and do the strengthening before any workout to make sure its ready to go. You don't ever want to fatigue the rotator cuffs. Just do it with a really weak band or a 5 pound plate until you feel each of the four activated.
I rekt my right shoulder a month into lifting (could barely bench the bar with really shitty form) and doing this shit religiously has kept me from having any shoulder pain whatsoever two years later.
>>34915173
The reason why you don't get shoulder impingement is the same between btn, dumbbell pressing like scooby in the OP (which is also covered when they talk about impingment) and in the barbell press. This is dependant on your mobility though. If you cannot do a natural shrug movement while pressing in any of these planes yes you potentially have a problem, but with good mobility you'll be fine.
>>34912964
You're gonna be great father, dickhead
>>34913490
Brah cause using legs=cardio cardio=no gainz lane. That's why I curl on a bench in the squat rack
>>34915256
Look, here's an actual x-ray illustrating the point why lateral lifting is problematic (imagine a ton of ligaments attached to the arm bone) Forward motions you can do all day, that's how OHP starts. I don't believe OHP is totally harmless, but that little pressure in the end of the lift is not the same as consistent grinding.
BTW, Scooby tells his minions to keep their shoulders down and back (packed) at all times. So no shrugging at any point.
And Rippetoe, with all due respect, has a Bachelor of Science in Petroleum Geology.
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34914940
> You're slowly grinding down your Bursa and tendons and possibly muscles if you do press like this.
you do know thats sorta why that bursa is there and yes you can do any movement too much but your bursa will tell you when its enough
>>34915357
Your clavicle still raises up even with scapulae retracted. You can even see it in the OP.
And with all due respect Cavaliere was one of many PTs for three seasons with a baseball team. Albeit a decent baseball team, still not weightlifters or whatever. That is the height of his career best part of a decade ago. Whether you feel that beats Rippetoe's qualification to disseminate fact is immaterial since you're just an idiot if you disagree with me at this point.
>>34915414
I don't know what your argument really is. If you're saying lateral press is better after this then you're the idiot.
Do you even know what a Master of Science degree is? Have some respect for educated people with 3 years of superb experience, dumb swine.
>>34915447
Woah 3 years of experience, somebody call call Guinness we have a fucking world record apparently. And yes it's in an unrelated field but let's just fudge that because baseball is p much competitive weightlifting.
Even if we were to agree that that's an amazing amount of experience and a masters in physical therapy from where ever is as prestigious as a decent MSc and not a joke, that doesn't mean anything. People are not right or wrong based purely on qualifications, you can still get bad advice and poor understanding and explanations from well qualified people.
And don't get me wrong, if we were talking about baseball I'd probs concede the point, but we're not.
>>34915532
A Bachelor of Science in Petroleum Geology "educating" people about fitness because he lifted once and bought a gym is the fucking joke here.
Just google criticisms of behind the neck press. You'll get tons of negative opinions from people who actually had to pass anatomy and physiology exams some time in their lives.
>>34914585
How does this apply to DB presses? They seem to be done similar to behind neck presses in terms of elbows out.
>>34914336
ive been doing it the wrong way my whole life and i'm dealing with shoulder impingement atm...
>>34913634
Good form, pupper!
>>34912934
yer an idiot, go home neckbeard
>>34913634
Good form, pupper
>>34913634
good form, puppet
>>34914109
I don't want to lift on this Planet anymore.
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34913634
Good form ,pupper!
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34916593
It doesn't apply to anything unless your clavicle is immobile. For most normal people this means that bench press and chest flyes potentially have problems, but any pressing to overhead doesn't.
If it feels uncomfortable obviously don't do it. And too heavy weight can be a bitch on your rotator cuff in general at certain angles.
>>34915603
>he lifted once and bought a gym is the fucking joke here.
Rippetoe is now an old man and has lifted most of his life on a regular basis.
And if you think for some reason that the degree you leave university with must be the job you then have forever you are in for a rude awakening when you enter the workplace or take up a physical hobby.
I can find tonnes of articles on the evils of creatine, squatting atg, and not using the smith machine too, would not in a million years follow stupid advice like that either tho.
>>34913950
That does happen sometimes. Stuff like that is labelled ideopathic, he probably whacked it on something without realising a little too hard at a funny angle. That kind of thing just takes time to settle down again, plus you want some physical therapy to keep mobility and strength in the joint.
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34913634
good form, pupper
>>34913490
You need to keep the angle of your knees at 90 or more or else you die
Actually you go this far up your head until you can shrug your traps.
>>34918014
>And if you think for some reason that the degree you leave university with must be the job you
wow, you're really dumb
listen, moron, don't go to the doctor with his shitty education when you have cancer. go to some grandma who's curing it with herbal tea. dumb fuck.
>>34918526
I wouldn't ask my doctor to design a weightlifting program. Nor would I expect a baseball PT with 3 years experience to have superior knowledge to a weightlifting coach with decades on matters that involve lifting weights. I'm sure you think that's crazy and that's fine.
>>34914841
I could give you an answer but why would I help someone from reddit?
>>34912964
>less
>>34918564
you can believe in broscience and denigrate expertise and experience all you want, but an Msci PT degree means that he was tough the newest science not so long ago, working for a top baseball team means that he solidified all that knowledge your short little old dude who owns a gym in Texas never had, working with top athletes. and on top of that, he spent another decade working with athletes from all kinds of sports. and he clearly practices what he preaches, even tho let's be honest he has shit genetics.
these things matter when we're talking about an exercise you're gonna do ones (or twice) a week for the rest of your life with dozens of repetitions.
AND, Rippetoe wasn't talking about the same movement. pressing a bar does provide you that little angle people with relevant education say you need.
>>34918627
>not so long ago
Did he get it before the baseball thing? That would be over a decade ago. A masters in physical therapy is not always a bad degree but it's never going to impress me academically.
Rippetoe also shows pressing both in front with a barbell and out to the side as with dumbbells in the video. It also does apply to btn pressing. I know this from my own knowledge on the subject, but Rippetoe explains pressing mechanics so well.
The baseball guy on the other hand is making out like the scapula is attached to the rib cage, doesn't move except to whack the humoral head into the also apparently unmoving clavicle. He can only do this with a medical model and even then by forcing it into very odd positions. Guy's a snake oil salesman.
Now okay maybe you cannot see this. Fine don't take my advice. Ultimately you have to do what you think is right.
>>34913866
>>34913851
You cause degradation of tendons gradually. It won't show immediately, but after few years. For some it might never show due to how their acromion is build.
>>34914874
The guy you see him often with is brother. Scoob's not gay.
>>34918695
>A masters in physical therapy is not always a bad degree
again, show me somebody with at least some proven knowledge of human anatomy who disagrees with him
stop worshiping old guy from Texas like you're in a megachurch, his knowledge is broscience level
>>34918815
What level of education do you want? I can give you two or three references off the top of my head that can blow out p much all of what he says there on way or another. But I do have a life so use my time efficiently if you want this info. What do you want to be shown wrong exactly. That the scapula moves? That it accommodates movement overhead? And what would you consider a good source, what basic level of education do these people require. Is it higher or the same level as a Physical Therapy masters?
>>34918966
you're wasting everybody's time, bro
if you have something, put it on the table
>>34914790
Why do you hate people?
I DUN GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YALL HEALTH ALL I CARE ABOUT IZ DEM GAINS YA HEARD GOTTA GET DAT GAIN BRAAAAAH
>>34913116
Are dumbell flyes really that bad?
I suppose dumbbell press would be easier in that lateral plane, since the position of your wrists isn't fixed?
Meaning when you lower the bar they go wider and when you push up they narrow to shoulder width?
>>34919028
Uh huh. I'm not going to play grab ass with a fat ass m8. My tip would he to stop "trolling" /fit/ and actually do something with your life.
>>34919101
Pullovers are meant to be the worst in the lifting type exercises. Any kind of high rep dynamic action like throwing or swinging or swimming is number one for all shoulder injuries including impingment. That's thought to be down to fatigue in the rotator cuff muscles, they eventually stop moving as the should.
Then for lifts it p much goes pullovers > shitty bench > shitty flyes then probs > flyes and then bench. It can somewhat depend on your own physiological quirks too like bone spurs and similar.
>>34913135
>Look up why behind-the-neck press is bad
tons of olympic weightlifters do that and the're fine
as long as you go light theres no problem
>>34913949
Damn straight, senpai.
>>34912934
No, traps are in charge of stabilizing both the head and the shoulders on that plane. If you squeeze them and tighten your rear deltoids to stabilize the weight, your lateral and frontal deltoids will carry/press the weight while the lats/rear deltoids stabilize the shoulder/neck frame.
OP, sorry, but you're simply echoing "knowledge" about forms without having any knowledge about muscle function, planes and relationships yourself.
>>34919246
so let's summarize this: you have nothing, no one with any kind of relevant education supports your bullshit
now go troll elsewhere.
>>34919341
>supports your bullshit
What bullshit?
>>34919355
what are we talking about here?
that Scooby press doesn't fuck up your shoulder, that that's a healthy form
>>34913659
Arnie and Zyzz
>>34919400
That faggot doesn't even lift, check out those forearms!
>>34919317
already been discussed in this thread that the issue isn't lack of stability in this case. see >>34914940
>>34914336
>>34914585
>>34919400
Fucking manlet.
its funny how someone posted a rippetoe video where he says shrugging will prevent impingement. its not the same fucking movement as the normal ohp you retard. in the book he basically says btn presses rek ur shit up.
the acromion will move up with shrugging, yes, but adducting the shoulder and externally rotating it much more than what you do in an ohp will still smash your tendons if your structure isn't optimal.
>>34919280
thats like saying basketball makes people tall.
people who have a bad type of an acromion or otherwise genetically poor shoulders won't be weightlifters. and they will get rekt by btn presses
>>34919372
>Scooby press
It's dumbbell ohp.
So are you this guy or thinking at least this is right?
>>34915357
>>34919509
this is more like a dumbbell ohp: >>34913163
learn how to do a ohp of any kind cause you're confused: >>34914165
>>34919542
>this is more like a dumbbell ohp: >>34913163 #
The classic dumbbell ohp is performed with arms externally rotated and doesn't have the elbows going lower than shoulders. That is trying to mimic a barbell ohp with dumbbells, not taking advantage of variable arm distance.
>>34919501
Rippetoe has said several times they can be performed with low weight. He doesn't like them tho.
>>34919501
Here is Lee Priest (I think it is anyway), a well known Scooby student doing the Scooby press and definitely not a dumbbell overhead press as you might see on a York poster.
>>34919608
he doesnt like them cause they will fuck you up
nothing is dangerous with light weights ofc
>>34919608
>not taking advantage of variable arm distance.
of course it takes advantage of that while you lift your arms up, there's a lot more freedom than with a bar
but it doesn't mimic the idiotic wide grip of behind the neck press like in the "Scooby dumbbell press"
>>34919672
But why is Lee Priest doing Scooby press? Why does York recommend it for shoulders since forever?
>>34919625
Arnold and others were doing "pour the water" side raises and other insanity, so what?
of course some bad practices you can tolerate while shooting up a bucked of roids every week, which speeds up your recovery dramatically (but kills your balls in the long run)
>>34912964
jeff pls
>>34919738
So Arnold is doing Scoobercises now? How influential is he?
>>34919721
see this >>34919738
>>34918564
Wait what?
You wouldn't believe information coming from a PT who worked with elite baseball players on shoulder pathology?
Are you fucking retarded? Do you know how much research goes into pitching throwing and the upper extremity with a sport like baseball? There's a high level of injury risk for the shoulder in that sport such that anyone who worked in that population would have to have extensive knowledge of the shoulder joint in order to excel in that field
Or are you so deluded as to think that the same biomechanics that apply to baseball somehow DONT apply to weightlifting?
>>34919501
>people who have a bad type of an acromion or otherwise genetically poor shoulders won't be weightlifters. and they will get rekt by btn presses
I'm pretty sure Soviet athletes like Klokov, son of Soviet champion, could even have had their shit re-engineered to be more efficient at a particular sport. Who knows what they do in China, too.
>>34913163
Where do you need a mythical creature for?
>>34919721
he's not doing them like Scooby
more like this, that natural and correct way: >>34913163
>>34912934
Kinda weird to see him with clothes on.
>>34919781
Have you seen him? Does he not know the clavicle moves to accommodate elevation in all planes of movement?
>>34919781
trolls like >>34918564 is what we have to deal with here on /fit/
but at least they keep the thread alive with their ignorance
>>34912964
jeff pls
>>34918730
lol Scooby's brother is doing presses correctly.
https://instagram.com/p/7xqbSwJVQy/
>>34918595
>I could give you an answer
No, you can't.
>>34914631
he's German
>>34919496
Nope.
>>34913851
>it has been 12 months so i must be fine
that is not how impingement works.
you are slowly perforating your tendons, after years of this kind of damage, your rotator cuff will be fucked.
unless you can manage to stay in the frontal plane while doing btn.
which 99.9% of people cannot.
>>34922169
>calling that turbomanlet 6'1
lel
>>34912934
Elaborate rusemaster of Baiting has delivered
you all got fucken #rekt
>>34912971
>>34913053
>>34913673
>>34913761
>>34913851
>>34914458
>>34923159
>being this new
>>34914970
How often should I be doing rotator cuff mobility prehab?
should I be doing anythinbg with my scapula or shoulder baldes during a dumb bell OHP?
>>34913651
He's had surgery in the last 10 days or so but i'm not sure what it was on
>>34924333
I exercise it twice a week but only from one angle, need to add at least another one plus some low weight frontal raises probably
now, what the fuck do you fags mean by mobility?
>>34923159
is that a torn of overflexed right pec?
>>34924819
It was a hernia.
>>34912934
hi! thanks scooby :^)
>>34918730
http://scoobysworkshop.com/2015/04/29/scoobys-husband/
>>34926786
he says no wife, but c'mon
>>34912934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO_gKyIwKrw
what about elliott hulse doing behind the neck pressing???? if its so bad, wouldnt someone such as elliott have information on what you guys are saying is "dangerously bad form"?? srs though i've been doing behind the neck press for years and I want to know if this is really true. yes i see your fucking demonstrations
>>34914336
>>34914585
>>34914841
>>34914940
Hes another highly informed individual who performs this exercise, wouldn't he not??
>>34927104
see >>34919501
dude's a freak athlete, he won strongman competitions.
>>34926786
I have a feeling his husband's videos would be more interesting than Scoob's
>>34926786
I was kind of sarcastic with that pic. I know he's a flaming homo although I didn't want to believe it at first.
>>34919855
he's fabulous isn't he?
>>34924836
Taking the joint through fuller rom but low to no weight. A traditional goblet squat is a mobility exercises with a free weight. Shoulder dislocations is one with no weight.
>>34919501
>your structure isn't optimal.
So it's a mobility issue then?
>>34919271
Are skullcrushers included in pullovers? They're a pretty similar movement.
>>34933240
I think it's that pullovers go so far back. You'll see it compared to over arm throwing motions.
I have a thing on it somewhere I'll post a copy if I can find it.
>>34928926
case in point, scoobs video today is about shaving your chest! how stuipid is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23bjj9MliRk
>>34933364
man, it takes a lot of work to be fabulous
>>34933211
what do you guys think of this stick exercise?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGqCSySszrA
>>34933240
they are even more similar if you do them correctly, moving your arms back more than 90 degrees
>>34933364
next video, how to suck dick
>>34921743
And?
>>34935794
*Und?
>>34933364
that's literally my dream chest hair, why the fuck does this faggot shave it off? I'm jelly
Do you think Scooby is the bottom?
>>34924386
Yes. Letting them do their thing and not retracting them.
>>34927104
Klokov does btn presses all the time. Doesn't mean they're safe.
You gotta have the right genetics to be able to withstand those - and even then you can still develop a shoulder injury.
>>34913116
IIRC Arnold has tore his pec once or twice from DB flys.
>>34935674
It's not that easy, it requires a lot of technique and practice.
>>34937769
suicide asap
>>34937361
> Do you think Scooby is the bottom?
lol'd
>>34937769
I'd like to see injury stats for people who try to do olympic lifting and drop out because of serious injuries at some point, especially in those third work countries.
It would probably help people realize what's the exception and what's the rule.
