Anybody else prefer to carry some bodyfat? Not much, I'm talking 15-18%
>Easier to lift heavy ass weight
>Never cold
>Cushioning everywhere (could never sit comfortably in an unpadded chair as a skeleton)
>Get to pretty much eat what you want
>Actually look like you lift in a shirt
all solid points, the only problem is that i'm an ex fatty and when I can't see abs I feel like the 200 pound peice of shit that I used to be. but realistically, that range is probably healthier
>>34905531
I do. God forbid I say this but people are suppose to have some fat. It's not possible to gain muscle without putting on some fat either. Then again, I might be biased since I'm high test.
>>34905531
I have skinnyfat genetics to the extreme, so this just doesn't look good on me
>>34905614
>since I'm high test
>needs to gain fat to gain muscle
You're low test actually
>>34905571
I used to be chubby in my early teens, then dropped town to 105lbs at 5'9 after getting depressed in my late teens. I'm gaining a bunch now and everything is just so much cosier with a small layer there
But facial aesthetics tho
>>34905531
I carried a little extra fat for a long time and didn't have a huge problem with it. I'm finally cutting down and thankfully after years of lifting with a little fat marbled in the meat, I'm keeping significant mass. Dieting is the worst part though, having to actually pay attention to my diet instead of just trying to even out the week at less than 23000 calories and making sure I hit my protein is a lot tougher.
I'd kill just to have OP's pic's body. After being an actual fatass, any amount less is good but fuck I hate love handles
>>34905720
This is one thing that bothers me. I love my body now but my face has a more round shape to it that I'm not fond of. Think I need to lose a little fat
>>34905531
>>Cushioning everywhere (could never sit comfortably in an unpadded chair as a skeleton)
>>Actually look like you lift in a shirt
These two tbqh family
>>34905720
Grow a beard at least it helped me to hide some ugliness
>>34905703
when i was about 14 i was at like 5'5 and weighed 200 pounds, after that I started running and i went down to 140 at around 5'9, so just a little on the thin end, I haven't grown much but i weigh 160 now. I'm sorry that you dropped down so low, do you fee like there have been any repercussions because of it?
>>34905531
>Anybody else prefer to carry some bodyfat?
Yup. Keeps your strength up, and makes you huggable :)
>>34905769
I feel like I stunted my growth, or at least wasted my prime high test years
Also my digestion has never seemed to be quite right since
>>34905531
Realised this a few days ago. Haven't lifted in over a month due to laziness. My gains are gone, and now I'm just skinny fat.
Also, this happened:
>Be at bus stop
>Begin talking to qt blonde next to me
>I recognised her from grade school
>She remembers me
>Talk about some shared subjects we have at school
>get on bus
>Group of rowdy faggots in the back
>Talking about shooting PSOs
>Not one of the faggots actually knows how to handle a gun, from their loud ass conversation
>been doing martial arts since I was little, reasonably sure of beating the fuck outta one, but not all 5 at the same time
>Head down in shame
>Don't tell them to shut up
>Realise if I had some decent muscle plus a ltittle fat, and looked like I lift, I'd intimidate little keks like these
>QT blonde and I are Facebook friends now, but I'm embarrassed as fuck
That was a few days ago. I'm on day 2 of my new split, training more and trying to add mass. Bulking too. I'm gonna get big, brehs. I'm gonna get big and fucking massive, and never be a scared little bitch again.
>>34905531
>Anybody else prefer to carry some bodyfat?
Anybody else prefer to be fat DYEL faggot?
>>34905571
This is me. Was 230 @ 5'8", cut down to 155, now bulking and I felt like a tub of lard as soon as the 4 abs I had disappeared.
>>34906002
omg youre such an autist i swear to god, there is no hope for you, kill yourself
>>34905791
Time to take some AI dude
>>34905531
Yes exactly
I just want size, I don't want to actually be fat (not right now anyway) but I do want to just be thick.
>>34905571
This pretty much. I legit panic if I notice my abs are getting soft.
>>34906002
you're facebook friends you'll make it breh
after you cure your autism jesus christ
cognitive dissonance
>>34905531
some people can pull it off while looking aesthetic, but everyone has a golden weight in which they preform best.
>pic related
>goal bf%
>>34905531
if im at my goal in lean weight, id have no worries carrying an extra 15% of bf.
does this make sense?
>>34905720
>he lifts for girls
faggot detected. you guys are so easy to spot now
>>34906600
It does make sense
To be honest I'm not lean because I'm lazy and undisciplined. The only reason I'm not fat is because I lift and because I don't eat processed junk food or sweet things. I just can't stop eating fucking steak and oatmeal and fruits. If I really wanted to be lean I could be but I'd rather eat huge portions
>>34905531
Yes but my goal is 12-15%.
Only 50 more lb of fat to go
>I have no self discipline
>>34906591
That guy is ~12% though
>>34905531
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy
>>34908140
What?
>>34906194
230 at 5ft8? Jesus christ dude, do you have loose skin/stretchmarks now?
>>34905571
>>34905614
they are not solid points and both of you are just fat and filled with estrogen, it's objectively healthier and easier to build muscles at 10% rather than 18%
>>34905614
>since i am high test
>>34905791
He said some, not a ton
>>34906604
by looking good (chad like face) you also gain respect from other men. it's literally the only reason i cut from time to time.
>>34908008
lol no
>>34905531
yep
>one of the strongest guys at my gym
>get more attention from guys and girls than when i was skinny/lean
>easy to maintain, eat whatever i want, dont count macros
>>34908809
>from men
From gays, you mean.
>>34908829
Are those stretchmarks on your shoulder? I'm developing them despite being small in size. Whenever people post physiques I always look to that area but no one ever seems to have them and it makes me feel like I'll never make it. You look great though, gives me a bit of hope
>>34908829
holy fuck those quads
>>34908929
nah literally everyone. if they feel like they're below you because you have a chad face, they'll treat you with more respect, whether they're straight or gay or fucking asexual
>>34909001
Broscience shit. Never once have I felt intimidated by some random guy (protip: all guys are random guys). Maybe you feel it because you have 0 real self-esteem and have always been a beta and now you think you're somehow better just because a little bit of muscle and less fat bumped you to a beta+.
>>34905720
This
:/
>>34908794
Your an idiot
>>34905703
>105lbs at 5'9
I feel like I should hug you or something.
>>34909155
>Your
>>34908829
Damn who that is?
>>34909292
Me. 6 weeks old pics
>>34905624
This. I'm the same. You look good if you have the waist of OP. If you have wide hips you still look pretty crap at 18% bf
>>34905531
Alright OP, pic related is not 15-18% though... If that was actually what you were thinking.
>>34906002
The fuck are you embarrassed about retard?
>>34908829
Chest routine?
>>34905791
dude...
you are literally a smaller, whiter lenny
get ye gone, white chocolate golem
>>34910064
looks about like 15% to me.. maybe a tad higher.
>>34905531
Sadly though, fat slows me down.
>>34910108
heavy bb flat bench | 5 sets x 5 reps or under
incline bb bench | 4 sets x 10-12 reps
cable flies | 4 sets x 10-15 reps
mixing strength and hypertrophy
>>34908829
Miring incredibly hard, you are my goal, how do I become you as a 5'9 110lb skeleton?
>>34905531
Ex fatty here. I started losing weight and working out with my bf a lot and riding my bike tons.
Lost good amount of weight. Then my bf told me to stop. He was upset because despite being a little cardio bunny twink himself he likes big men.
So we decided on 20 percent minimum. Which kind of sucks because of how much I love bicycling now... it can be easy for me to drop five pounds in a couple weeks if i dont eat enough. Cycling to and from work 12 miles each way.
On the other hand, I can just guesstimate my calories and dont need to be all counting my macros like my boo. Which is good because i just made a cheeseburger mac and potato casserole that smells amazing.
>>34905531
Yes sir. I see no point in going under 10-11% unless you compete. I usually cruise at 15-20% and when the number goes higher I cut.
Pros:
>eat like a beast (oh lel ate additional 500 kals, muh abs, fucking kek)
>easier bulking and cutting phases -> optimal growth
>bears going into extinction so we must support them and become bears
>life is more fun in general
Though again sometimes I wonder how I would look at 5% bf, though I guess I will only find out once I start to el injecto.
>>34910516
As long as you don't have a belly, you're fine.
>>34910416
I was trolled
>>34910540
>as long as you have a handsome face you're fine
Fify
Fox and the grapes
>>34910715
Yeah. Weak twink zyzz people are sour they can't eat what they want because they're vain and insecure
>inbo I-I eat a slice of pizza a fortnight IIFYM b-bro
>>34911104
6'0 195 12% bf eat like a pig everyday only gaining muscle, u mad fatty?
>>34911240
Anyone have that 'what hungry skeletons say they eat vs what they actually eat' picture?
>>34905531
>Anybody else prefer to carry some bodyfat?
>Feel that Winter Chill coming.
>Lost all body fat over summer, skelliestyle.
>No bodyfat equals no way to retain heat.
>Cold and lonely.
>Feels bad, man.
I'm gonna go cuddle with my cat now. I feed him, so he owes me warmths.
>>34905791
Fat guy
>>34908829
Swole guy
Know the difference.
>>34905571
I have abs at 200
I feel disgusting and sweaty above 13-14% so no. I don't see the point going to the gym if you don't want to maintain a lean physique either, but that's just me
>>34910219
You don't
>>34905791
this guy is 5'7 and just plain fat.
>>34905531
>tfw zipper abs
Cut down to about 12% once. 15% for life
captcha: select all the pictures with pancakes
>>34911585
...if you want to get strong? Like most people on this board?
I wouldnt mind having 15% BF if I didn't have these puffy nips/gyno. I'm pretty sure I have to cut down to sub 10% BF to get rid of them.
>>34909528
London? Pls let me suck ur dick.
>>34908829
be my daddy pls
>>34914289
>>34914397
pls b grill
>tfw no gf
>>34908829
>dat bodytype
Pls /fit/ tell me I can look a little something like that. Pic related, is skelly me
>>34914445
ur taller than him so its going to take a lot longer, but sure. also looks like hes on 325mg of test so meh
>>34914474
im 5'7 and natty, lifting for a bit over 3.5 years >>34908829
>>34912114
>actually caring about zipper abs
literally the only ones judging zipper abs are insecure men on this Peruvian sheep farming blog.
>>34908773
No, I played football/threw shotput in high school and played rugby in college. I wasn't super fat, not to say I wasn't fat, definitely was, but more stocky.
>>34905720
>having subpar non-aryan genetics
lol to be honest
>>34914726
What?
>>34914474
>but sure. also looks like hes on 325mg of test so meh
tfw no idea about roids
>>34905791
GOLEM GET YE GONE
>>34908829
>>34910218
stats?
pls
>>34905571
I agree, OP has some great points, but you really complete the idea. 2bqh Family, as long as I can see my abs/serratus to an extent, I am fine. As an ex fatty, that is my biggest insecurity, is looking like that again. Plus it's never interested me to look super ripped.
I try to stay at like the 9-13% BF range. Never going to be super ripped, never going to have that lower ab vascularity, but at least I look kind of strong, and not too bad.
pic related
>>34915561
Mirin, what did you look like before?
>>34915762
How so, when I was fat, or when I was a bit more ripped but not as big?
>>34915786
Fat brah. Currently on a cut and losing motivation, haven't been seeing much progress.
As long as you have a flat stomach you're fine
>>34905791
GOLEM GET YE GONE
>>34915805
>>34905531
this is my mid term goal as a current fatass, I think I'll have to carry a bit of fat to help hide the loose skin.
my face doesn't carry much fat as it is so hopefully I'll look prreeeetty good
267lbs @ 5'10" right now
>>34916119
what is wrong with him
>>34916270
Insulin and HGH makes your organs grow
>>34916277
>
>polumboism
>>34909086
>Never once have I felt intimidated by some random guy
This line, fucking seriously m8. Keep telling yourself this bullshit. On a very conscious level you are shitting yourself about your shortcomings. Trying to size everyone up while they give not a single fuck about you.
Exactly what every single weak insecure douche says.
If you aren't honestly intimidated at least occasionally then you are fucking ignorant to societal power structure. Someone with wealth and influence could straight ruin your life, have you living in a box, or in a wheelchair if you cross them. And of course physically you should be intimidated or else you will end up stomped by a trained fighter or a power athlete some day.
grow up faggot, it's not the movies, it's not the vidya games, and its not faggy motivation act tough/lie to yourself posters, it's real life. Honestly bro, get real with yourself because your attitude reeks of personal shame and sadness.
>>34908829
how much do u weigh? famm
>>34906571
sweet, sweet grapes...
>>34905791
>>Anybody else prefer to carry some bodyfat?
>Yup. Keeps your strength up, and makes you huggable :)
You're WELL over 30% fat. Visceral tissue counts too you know.
I'm an MRI technologist, I've seen inside of people like you and it isn't fucking pretty. Drink much? cause it sure looks like it.
>>34914445
You appear to have more of a slow twitch muscular composition so no. Embrace your inner otter. You got alot going so far, you're gonna make it.
>>34916270
Tons of abdomen fat under the muscles, tons of interstitial fluid build up and edema. Swollen liver, pancreatic and gall bladder dysfunction. And yeah organ hyperplasia from the GH/slin.
tl;dr - Death on a flatbead
>>34908829
routine?
>>34916466
>you got a lot of slow twitch muscular composition
How can you even tell? What does this even mean? I wanna don't wanna embrace my inner otter, my hips are too god damn wide for that
>>34905571
Iktf so hard bro. I know that going 100kcal over my limit won't do shit, but he'll I swear I can see I'm fatter the next day.
>>34908829
Can you post your body from just before you started lifting?
>>34916622
>>>34916466 (You)
>>you got a lot of slow twitch muscular composition
That's not what I wrote. Your ratio leans that way only in comparison to his. You'll never be full ottermode (never go full otter) unless you are training for aerobic muscle endurance.
>How can you even tell? What does this even mean? I wanna don't wanna embrace my inner otter, my hips are too god damn wide for that
Delayed activation allows for more coordination of muscular exertion. Thereby the long and short head of biceps are developed more evenly. This is why your muscles appear relatively long, where his have a more defined belly.
Training can affect this and if you want to exaggerate development toward the rounder muscles you just need to alter training a bit.
Lift eXploSiVELY each rep, and keep sets short and sweet. This will come at the expense of some "form", but don't be afraid of a little swing, a little momentum. Watch video of elite builders, they are not super strict. They go for immediate maximal effort at the beginning of the lift. Go heavy even if you need to do a bit of cheating (be reasonable pls).
Creatine Monohydrate is still the most scientifically proven muscle enhancing, strength enhancing supplement. Great for Anaerobic performance and also fullness. Don't buy into the fancy creatines and the expensive combos with all kinds of arginine and BCAAs and bullshit. If you can deal with the intestinal effects, Creatine is fucking amazing. People write it off but I guarantee that all highly competitive sprinters (fast twitch motherfuckers) are on loads of it.
>>34917047
Oh, damn. Wow. Okay.
So I guess by that I'll have to do explosive reps with short sets. So maybe 3x5-8 on compounds and 3x10 on everything else done explosively? Sounds good to me.
Thanks anon. Screencapped and saved for later
Dyel skeleton.
My goal isn't to get shredded, but stronger. So I would like a little bodyfat generally, only really cutting for summer and then staying at a healthy weight most of the year.
>>34905791
>dat roid gut
>>34908829
I want to stroke your quads while eating your asshole
>>34915501
160kg x 2 bench
220kg x 1 squat
240kg x 1 dl with straps, 190kg x 1 without straps
100kg x 3 ohp
>>34916413
87kg in that pic
>>34916594
right now im doing a split, mixing strength and hypertrophy
chest triceps / shoulders traps / back biceps / legs
under 5 reps for the main compound ex like flat bench, ohp, bb row, squats, dl, then 10+ reps for rest
>>34916731
dont have a pic before lifting, but pic related is 3 months after starting, was around 75kg
>>34905791
You could lose twenty kilos and still be fat, damn
>>34905791
Piggie is fat everywhere!
>>34905531
It looks more aesthetic, desu. More natural, if you will.
Fun fact: In the 1920s, definition was considered ugly.
The American Academy of Sports Science recommends that athletes in sports that do not have weight brackets carry about 17% body fat as optimum both for training and play.
>>34906604
Girls dislike muscle definition, btw.
>>34916400
>autism
Or maybe you're chicken and take memes too seriously.
It's okay to admit that you can't stop stuffing your fat faces
Not everyone is going to make it
>>34918193
Sauce?
>>34916400
I don't have one have any fedora reaction images, so just visualize one on a very conscious level ;^)
>>34918254
kek
>>34905571
This. I'm a recovering fatty. I want visible abs SO badly. Before I started lifting, they just seemed like fantasy; things that only movie actors with expensive trainers, or skilled athletes with trainers, could get.
I NEED THIS VALIDATION. I NEED TO BE A SEXY CHAD THAT FUCKS THE CUTIE WOMEN.
>>34918206
It's funny because both of them would look small af without roiding their assholes off at that bf%
>>34905571
You have some issues bro.
>>34915561
Macklemore?
