Do test boosters work or? What other ways can I maximize my gains?
eat your cum
something to do with pheromones idk
>>34846899
thanks bro
>>34846892
Not sure if this is credible or not, but this article says that boosters can increase test from 20-50%, while a low dose test cycle boosts about 300%. May or may not be worth it I guess.
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/07/10/do-testosterone-boosting-supplements-work/
I used to work at gnc and they would push us to sell those since they're so expensive. They're bullshit snake oil. Thing is I would lie to customers either way to make an extra $10 for every bottle I sold.
Anyways if you wanna increase test take vitamin d, fish oil, magnesium, zinc, and get plenty of sleep. Those are your best bet in the natty realm, can't speak for the mutant zone however.
>>34846944
I already have the P6 I got it for free i'll might as well take it I guess.
>>34846944
Is that why whenever I used to go there they always try to push their bullshit brand of protein on me?
All the employees are fake as hell
>>34847023
Yeah, are you new here btw? I thought this was common knowledge. But yeah basically don't listen to anything they say, the employees seriously don't know anything.
>>34847023
desu their GNC mass gainer is pretty awesome. At least from their nutritional info, it's pretty similar to ON or MM at less price.
>>34847283
>>34847023
Yeah don't get me wrong my buddy still works there so I go to him for sups though he gets most of them for free. I use gnc brand protein cause it's cheap and I get a 7lb bag for like $70 with his discount. Whey is whey, I don't care from brand name just like I don't care what brand of milk I buy
Lol at this thread.
Real testosterone will increase your test and your gains faggot. But I bet your scared of needles
>>34847674
This. Lel if you want test, THEN TAKE TESTOSTERONE.
>will sucking cum make me stronger
>>34846944
>vitamin d, fish oil, magnesium, zinc, and get plenty of sleep
All great advice but i'd like to add some clarity on the supplements before some anon goes out and buys a bunch of crap and wastes his $,
>Vitamin D
This is great stuff but you gotta get D3, not D2, also the amount per gel cap should be 5000IU for best effects,
***IGNORANCE ALERT***
You must take vitamin D3 with vitamin K2, D3 increases your calcium absorption and without vitamin K2 to direct that calcium into your bones you can end up with a host of conditions like calcified arteries and calcified parathyroid glands so be sure to take a good K2 supplement with the D3.
There a lot of shit K2 suppliments on the market, not trying to shill but this is the best K2 supplement for americans (only ships in the US via amazon):
http://innovixlabs.com/products/full-spectrum-vitamin-k2/
there are other good brands like Nutrigold & Doctor's Best but they aren't full spectrum.
>Fish Oil
Look for products high in EPA and DHA, also in the really good products on the market the oil comes in a re-esterified triglyceride form, better absorbed and doesn't give those fishy burps.
>Magnesium
Also comes in many forms, some are crap like magnesium oxide, you can flush that shit down the toilet cause you absorbe nothing from it.
look for magnesium malate, it has good absorption and doesn't give you the runs like magnesium citrate does. (doctor's best magnesium is also very well absorbed with no side effects even though its not magnesium malate).
>Zinc
zinc picolinate is probably one of the best forms to buy, it always comes in low amounts (15mcg - 50mcg) so make sure you're not buying a pill that is mostly filler so it looks bigger, zinc supplement pills should be small,
also dont go overboard on zinc since it can displace copper in the body and cause problems, some zinc products come with some added copper because of that.
>Vitamin B6
You should add this to the stack since its needed in T production.
>>34847397
>7lb $70
>cheap
... Nigger
Question:
>What are things I should avoid in order to produce and have higher testosterone levels?
I have stopped fapping but I find that I feel a drop in libido and aggressiveness/confidence after like 9 days.
I am also avoiding soy and plastic bottles, will eating soy really make a big difference?
Thanks!
>>34850749
>plastic bottles
Why? Just curious
>>34850358
If I should start taking vitamins as you've mentioned and in those quantities with a balanced diet and enough exercise and sleep. Will there be any side effects/drawbacks? I haven't got any existing medical difficulties.
Is that much zinc bad for you? Will I need to eat extra copper?
Thankyou! I just really want to raise my t levels naturally.
>>34850820
something to do with them raising estrogen, its probably extremely low but still.
bump i want this thread to stay alive so I can learn more.
okay i dont even know if i can bump a thread this many times but whatever
bump
>>34850358
Thanks bro
>>34850358
How much EPA and DHA is useful? The supps in my country are very low dosed, 180mg EPA and 120mg DHA per cap. Is it worth buying?
>>34850822
Well i have no idea what the your levels are for these vitamins, but its a list of vitamins that like 99% of people are deficient in,
if you:
>work outside in the sun shirtless for 3 hours/day then you dont need vitamin D3
>eat a good amount of fish on a daily basis then you dont need fish oil
basically everyone are somewhat deficient in magnesium/zinc and blood test dont really show much about your levels, if your worried about too much zinc just get a supplement that doesn't go over the daily limit or stay close, as i said there are also vitamins that combine some copper with the zinc, like:http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Zinc-Balance-Capsules
it has 15mg of zinc (100% daily value)
and 1mg of copper (50% daily value)
the zinc comes in a better form then picolinate actually.
>>34850921
No, thats really low, save your money, here are some good brands that come high in EPA/DHA and are re-esterified triglycerid oil.
http://www.amazon.com/Nordic-Naturals-Ultimate-Support-Healthy/dp/B002CQU564
http://www.amazon.com/UnoCardio-1000-Vitamin-60-Softgels/dp/B00QFTGSK6 - if you buy this supplement with a lower dose of D3 because it already contains 1000UI of D3
there are more if you look around amazon.
>>34851019
First one is US only. So probably need the second one. The Vitamin D supps in my country have max 400 UI. Everything below 5000 daily is fine right?
>>34851058
allow me to introduce you to iherb.com, worldwide shipping for $6.
http://www.iherb.com/Nordic-Naturals-Ultimate-Omega-Lemon-1000-mg-60-Soft-Gels/43654
be mindful of the serving size though, all of these fish oil products are listing the EPA/DHA per serving size and some serving size is 2 pills, some are 1 pill, take that into account when deciding on a brand.
UnoCardio 1000 + Vitamin D 1000 is ONE SERVING = one pill so its 650EPA/450DHA per pill @ $43/60 pills
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega is ONE SERVING = 2 pills so its 650EPA/450DHA per 2 pills @ $44/120 pills
so these two come out about the same, only you get an extra 1000IU of D3 in the unocardio brand,
>>34851163
That's really cheap. Do you know a website with maximum daily values of vitamins and micronutrients?
>>34851289
http://www.dsld.nlm.nih.gov/dsld/dailyvalue.jsp
Basically what everyone uses.
>>34850358
holy fuck you're still here months later. vitamin D overdosing isn't gonna do shit for you. cant wait till you start linking retarded john masters blog posts at me
>>34852080
i have no idea who you're referring to,
these
>>34850358
>>34851019
>>34851163
>>34851579
are the first posts i've ever made about vitamins.
please enlighten me why you consider 5000IU of vitamin D3 "overdosing" and why do you think it does nothing for the body? i'm honestly interested.
>>34852116
I'm not that other guy, but the site you linked has a recommendation of 400 IU Vitamin D. Could you explain why you consider 5000 IU (12.5x the recommended dose) for best effects? Just curios
>>34847023
>>34847261
I zone out when the employee tries to talk to me and sell me some shit. I'll nod my head and say "Yeah?" "Really?" "Cool story bro." Then I just purchase whatever it is I came for to begin with.
>>34846892
they work to steal your money
>>34852197
Basically everyone recommends between 2000IU-5000IU of D3 as a supplement, most base this on the fact that the daily value chart regarding vitamin D is not up to date and various studies done at 2000+ dosing show actual health benefits.
most people require over 2000IU to actually show a rise in their blood levels, some need 2000IU to maintain their levels, some 5000IU, the real way to know is with a blood test.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/03/28/four-times-the-recommended-vitamin-d-dose-needed-for-winter.aspx
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/10/vitamin-d-experts-reveal-the-truth.aspx
http://examine.com/supplements/vitamin-d/
http://www.vitamind3uk.com/VitaminD_Dose_How_Much_Needed.html
https://www.vitamindcouncil.org/blog/why-does-the-vitamin-d-council-recommend-5000-iuday/
as far as i understand you shouldn't take 5000IU forever, more like 3-4 months to get your levels up and then take a maintenance of 1000IU-2000IU to keep the levels where they are.
>>34852500
Well thank you for all that info. I just went on Amazon and spent $100 on supps bc I trust randos on the interwebs.
And this is why I've pissed away 10k in savings since summer.
This is why I bought a bathmate.
