I work at a pub and yesterday some older guy grabbed me from behind threw me on the ground and started kicking me and shit because someone else kicked him out. I got up and went to push him but he was way bigger and punched me in the head. I never really cared that I was a skelly but now I do.
I'm 20, 185cm 68kg and a skeleton.
What routine would be best to get bigger as quickly as possible? SS?
Don't want this to happen again I feel like a giant pussy
>>34838294
If you wanna be better at fighting being bigger won't help, you should learn to fight, learn muay thai or some martial art
>>34838322
Weigjt classes are a thing.
>>34838294
SS and GOMAD. If you're skelly I recommend picking up some calipers and deciding on a visual cue for when you're getting a little fat and doing less GOMAD. Like if you lose your abs or start getting a muffin top.
>>34838322
I might do that, but I want to be bigger to look like less of a pushover target.
Some guy was hitting on my gf a week or so ago, and I didn't think he was much bigger than me so I went over and told him.
Basically she said I shouldn't have done anything cause I could have gotten hurt and he could have killed me.
feelsbadman
Don't want to feel like a bitch
>>34838322
>bigger won't help
>>34838322
>being bigger won't help
>>34838322
>being bigger won't help in a fight against big guys
>martial arts being effective in real fights
Pic related.
OP just get big and do some boxing.
If you're young (early 20s), try SS+GODMAD. No joke. GOMAD is meant for young skellies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HV-wvNa2GM
>>34838322
This, learn something like boxing or a martial art, as well as doing some strength exercises at the gym instead of hypertrophy for size.
Size will not help you that much.
>>34838468
>Size will not help you that much
You've got to be a complete moron to actually believe this.
>>34838294
Breh dun listen to these cunts Im same height and 8kg lighter then you and fit AND fat cunts have an advantage over us just eat more.
>>34838433
>>34838461
>>34838446
Great memes, stay in the gym where its nice and safe
I love when meatheads get the shit kicked out of them by skinny cunts and realize they arent badasses
>>34838491
this bait doesn't even make sense
apply yourself
>>34838294
yours is the begining of a story many of us share
the day your realised you have to become more
the begining of an obscession tht could make you great
or you could be a faggot and waste it
you need strength and to train hypertrophy not just ss or sl
do volume and accessory work too dont neglect any bodypart
>>34838474
Pros:
More strength for punching and grappling.
More weight for pushing and wrestling.
Intimidation factor.
Cons:
Lower stamina.
Technique will still be shit.
No experience.
Won't know how to defend himself.
Will still suck at fighting.
>>34838505
>Cons:
>Lower stamina.
>Technique will still be shit.
>No experience.
>Won't know how to defend himself.
>Will still suck at fighting.
2/10 had me for a second.
>>34838505
>Lower stamina.
>Technique will still be shit.
>No experience.
>Won't know how to defend himself.
>Will still suck at fighting.
These have absolutely nothing to do with size.
>>34838505
>Cons:
Tell all that to Tyson in his prime.
>>34838553
Because size won't give you these.
>>34838541
>>34838553
>>34838569
he's referring to average gymbros not fighters
>>34838294
>>/asp/
go there and learn to fight
>>34838580
You can attain those no matter what size you are, so your post is completely moot.
>>34838580
His technique might STILL be shit, but he will suck a lot less at fighting if he's bigger. Size can also increase your cardiovascular capacity so it can actually improve stamina in a general sense.
>>34838583
no he's just a shitposting moron
>>34838595
If he only trains for size and doesn't add cardio or endurance training his stamina will decrease, as his extra muscle will need more oxygen.
That's why many fighters are either skinny or chubby, to preserve their stamina.
>>34838294
>Taking fighting advice from a bunch of friendless horsefuckers who have never left the house
Just learn2fight and get bigger.
>>34838569
This.
Tyson was a fucking beast in his prime.
>>34838613
>his stamina will decrease, as his extra muscle will need more oxygen.
That's exactly why his stamina improves. VO2 max is purely a measure of how much of the oxygen you breath in can be turned into carbon dioxide. More muscle means a greater capacity for this. There'll eventually come a point where the lungs or heart can't keep up and become the bottle neck, but he's a skelly so that's a way off. Not to mention that lifting improves cardiovascular fitness through the heart and stuff as well. Also if increases in fat mass exceed increases in muscle mass obv you don't get the same cardiovascular gains.
The guy can do endurance training alongside strength as a beginner, but he also doesn't have to over complicate it, esp not early on. While I'd say it's beneficial to do both just lifting isn't as detrimental as you think
The whole thin fat thing you've got going on is bull too
>>34838553
>These have absolutely nothing to do with size.
That's correct. But they have something to do with lifting INSTEAD of learning a martial art. If you want to get good at fight, you should learn how to fight. Is that really such a hard concept to comprehend?
Having that, OP is probably right in his assumption that he'll look like less of a push-over when he's bigger. So if that what he's looking for, he should by all means go ahead and start lifting weights.
>>34838807
>But they have something to do with lifting INSTEAD of learning a martial art. If you want to get good at fight, you should learn how to fight. Is that really such a hard concept to comprehend?
Well that's why you do both you braindead retard.
There are plenty of MMA gyms to lift an fight under one roof.
>>34838322
>being bigger won't help
You're a fucking idiot.
Being bigger and stronger won't help? Why do you think that men and women don't fight each other in boxing, mma etc? Why do you think there are weight classes?
>>34838569
Tyson was an overrated can crusher
>>34838823
>Well that's why you do both you braindead retard.
That what I do. But everyone here was clearly implying that OP should just lift weights and will by that somehow know how to fight.
Btw if OP is still in here - I think starting to do martial arts and lifting weights at the same time will be hard, especially for someone who didn't exercise before. I think you should prioritize one over the other. E.g. lift weights 3 times a week and do boxing once a week to learn the basics of how to throw a punch, how to move around etc.
>>34838863
If anything he was underrated. He would've been so much better than he was if it wasn't for that gold digging whore actress he married, and don king fucking him up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51090bGcoR8
no one in the history of boxing has come close to him not even ali
>>34838857
Yeah but those guys know how to fight, being only big is useless if you don't know how to fight, every skelly that knows how to fight will wreck you
>>34838879
He should get over SS in a few months, move on to texas method. that's when he should do some boxing.
>>34838893
>no one in the history of boxing has come close to him not even ali
He boxed in a division full of cans. There are/were much better boxers than Tyson ever was. Even in the heavyweights now
t. amateur boxer from the age of 10 to 23
>>34838350
But you are a bitch.
>>34838920
>here are/were much better boxers than Tyson ever was
Go on.
>>34838930
Kličko brothers are far better boxers than Tyson was and there's really no point in naming the ones from lower weight classes - both active and retired.
Crush cans, get hyped by your agent/media, be considered a great boxer (in terms of actual boxing skill) 2-3 decades after you're done.
>>34838920
fuckin lmao bro top kek
>>34838920
>>34838956
your bait is shit
>lifting for other people
>lifting because you're insecure
Also, won't this make him a target for even bigger shitheads who have something to prove?
>>34838968
>>34838975
>>34838980
Well, I didn't think we'd have a normal discussion on /fit/ either way... Next to no one here is actually good at or even tried doing what they talk about the entire time
>>34838863
>>34838920
>>34838956
theres always that one guy in all these threads
>>34838896
big guy can just pick the skelly up and fuck him up
who's got the gif of the skelly boxer kid who gets bodyslammed in the toilet and blood comes out his head
>>34838896
but a skelly that doesn't know how to fight won't
big trained fighter > small trained fighter
big untrained fighter > small untrained fighter
>>34838294
Yah SS. GOMAD too with your stats.
>>34838956
>Kličko brothers
Tyson in his prime in the mid 80s would wreck the shit out of either one, and even they've said the same thing.
Try harder.
>>34838986
You're just trying way too hard to be contrarian.
>>34838956
>Kličko brothers are far better boxers than Tyson was
No, just no.
go back to bed slavshit
>>34838294
Same boat as you fa.m, 183 and 71kg. Just eat a fuckton and do SL/SS. Martial arts won't help you that much because bar fights are usually done with two, maybe three punches and the kind of guys who look for a fight in a bar probably don't know how to fight either. GOMAD may help idk.
>>34838461
this
boxing training is the perfect mix of strength and cardio
Martial art autists please get the fuck off my board.
I don't know where the idea that a drunk skeleton is going to pull out his ju-jitsu and "win" a fight against another drunk guy twice his size comes from, but I can tell you that it is one of the most retarded things I have heard.
>>34838294
boxing/muay thai + bjj/judo/wrestling
>>34839059
That's why people are telling him to get big.
>>34838322
At the weigh he is in, yes it does. Although the point is to avoid fighting, because nothing really helps if you get jumped from behind.
>>34839016
>>34839005
>people on here really think vitali klitchko couldnt beat tyson
Wladamir probably would have his shit pushed in but vitali was part of the newer breed of 2000s fighters who just towered over previous heavyweights in stature, drug dose have more specialised training etc . Tyson even says himself that they'd probably win.
https://youtu.be/BF-sxSipAMs
Vitali was one of the best of these new superbreed of fighters. He fucking rocked lennox lewis in this fight and the win on lennox's part is one of the most disputed in the history of boxing.
https://youtu.be/9WvFVtK9uHg
>>34838986
bro, broo
cmon bro just shut the fuck up you're a clown with stupid opinions
>>34839108
Mike was being modest.
In his prime HIS PRIME, he would have destroyed them both.
>>34838350
Literally being jacked is pretty much guaranteed no fights
Small, skinny angry manlets with something to prove who always start fights are too intimidated when youre big. Cause in point I deescalated a fight by literally grabbing the dudes head and turning it towards the door saying "it aint worth it"
Other big guys see you as one of them and you can just bro out on gym stuff. Again, some big dude was looking for a fight and I just mentioned the gym I went to and we vecame bros
>>34839108
He lost because he couldn't KO him.
Tyson was KO'ing people like there was no tomorrow in his prime.
Mike Tyson just turned into a kek after he ate some ear.
>>34839127
>blah blah in his prime
Tyson was on roids from the age of 15-present
His prime was pretty much his whole boxing career, he was probably a worse fighter at 18-23 than when he was a proper champ. And lennox still beat him. Keep in mind that in the second clip vitali was a stand in fighter for somebody else and essentially just turned up on the night of the fight with little preperation or training and nearly beat the guy who Ko'd mike tyson 8 rounds.
>>34838322
When will this meme die?
There is a reason big guys are intimidating.
There is a reason someone bigger than OP kicked the fuck out of him.
I don't think it was because the guy was practising his gogoplatas at night.
>>34839137
both of the klitchkos have a higher KO percentage than tyson lol.
>>34838294
Mauy Thai and ju jitsu but you have to commit and not slack
>>34839146
>Tyson was on roids
yep now you're just spewing shit
>>34839146
>he was probably a worse fighter at 18-23
I already stated that he got fucked up by his gold digging whore wife/step mother and Don King, that and the death of basically everyone good in his life up until that point.
Also the only time he used roids was after he got out of jail for alleged rape, and Don King had his hand up his ass, but that was late in his career.
>>34839167
>thinks mike tyson, who has addmited to being on steriods throughout his boxing career is natural
apex kek
>>34839160
Doesn't mean a thing. They still couldn't match his power/speed. See vid here >>34838893
Tyson's only downfall were unfortunate life events.
>>34839108
>better vitamins
>>34839187
He only took roids later in his career.
Tyson wasn't even that big.
>>34839197
>england
come back when you move out of that pussy tea sipping shithole girlyman
>>34839197
>And I live in a big northern city in england.
what has that got to do with anything
>>34838622
how about both
>>34838346
>Weigjt classes are a thing.
Yeah, but only for a few decades. People still fought before that, you know? And since there are actual fighting systems and not just "eat more, the heavier guy always wins", we can put your argument right up your ass, where it belongs.
Also, good luck streetfighting with gloves, rules, a referee and padded ground.
>>34838505
>You need strength for striking
It was /fit/ tier.
>>34839224
I like the north tbph, shit's peaceful.
>>34839342
I hope for your sake this is poor bait.
>>34839369
What, you think they had weight classes before the 19th century? You must be American.
>>34838294
Fighting is for pussies. You aren't a kid any more, you should weight more and take care of your body for different reason. Let the police deal with him.
Also, look for a decent job.
Disregard the bunch of teens suggesting to become Bruce Lee in Arnold's body here.
>>34839374
That once upon a time there were no weight classes doesn't mean they have no use. Why do you think they were introduced?
>>34839387
>Let the police deal with him.
This is very naive and childish bruh.
>>34838988
>who's got the gif of the skelly boxer kid who gets bodyslammed in the toilet and blood comes out his head
Nobody because it never happened
Fighting doesn't work that way kek
>>34839405
It's real. The blood is surprising tbf but he gets slammed at a funny angle and must have hit his head
>>34839199
>tyson wasnt even that big
Tyson was 214lbs in his debut fight at 5'9" (his boxrec states 5'10" but he is 5'9") and only gained more weight every fight he had.
You've got to be pretty brainwashed by rocky movies/deluded to think that he was natty at the start with the amount of muscle mass he had. He was even roided in his olympic days dude, as are 100% of the other olympic atheletes and professional boxers past around the 1970s. Theres nothing bad about it, both of the kitchkos obviously are both on a cocktail of drugs as is everyones else.
>>34839396
Striving to be robocop is childish. Administer "justice" on your own with your bare hands when you're not a teen any more is childish.
>>34839425
If someone attacks you and you defend yourself you are not "administering justice" or other catchphrase from an 80s movie
>>34839389
Because the rules were changed completely at that time. Nevermind the weight classes, wrestling became disallowed, kicking too. All kinds of tactics didn't work in the new ruleset (and that was even before boxing as we know it today was invented). Over time, a new style with new rules and new weight classes emerged (and yes, the weight classes got changed over time, too, so that also destroys your argument).
And the, of course, we have loads of studies were heavyweights are shown to not really hit much harder than middleweights - and funnily, also showing that heavyweights aren't really much slower than middlweights.
Weight classes are just completely useless, just like gloves are when it comes to avoiding head trauma. Lots of inventions during the 19th and early 20th century were bullshit, these are just two of them.
Also, l2history, you tiny American man.
>>34839420
Does not look like he was on roids at all.
The reason Rocky looked roided was because he was all veins.
>>34839420
He looks completely average in that pic.
I don't think you know how roids work.
>>34838491
Anon, a heavier person will always have his weight as an advantage in fighting. You can gain an advantage yourself by being really good in fighting, but he will always hold the weight advantage.
It's the simple truth. It doesn't mean you will always win fights against people lighter than you, but it does help.
>>34839436
If somebody attacks you, you have better to evaluate why did you find yourself in that situation. The "merrica fuck yeah" myth is so catchy for you teens, I know, but you never, never, never are forced to "defend yourself from someone attacking for no reasons" if you're not a retard.
>>34839475
>Anon, a heavier person will always have his weight as an advantage in fighting.
But that's simply not true. Ever been in a street fight? Even during the fucking Middle Ages, people were aware that the faster, more cruel fighter wins if there are no rules and the bigger, stronger fighter wins if there are rules.
You're literally at a point below the Middle Ages in your education, bro.
>>34839439
>And the, of course, we have loads of studies were heavyweights are shown to not really hit much harder than middleweights - and funnily, also showing that heavyweights aren't really much slower than middlweights.
Go ahead then post em
>Weight classes are just completely useless, just like gloves are when it comes to avoiding head trauma. Lots of inventions during the 19th and early 20th century were bullshit, these are just two of them.
What makes you think boxing gloves came in because head trauma? What makes you think the Ancient Greeks and Romans never used them? Inb4 but muh bareknuckle vs queensberry, what now is called bareknuckle often involved hand protection
On that note I hereby give you permission to say queensberry rules since you seem to think it verboten
>>34839490
>Ever been in a street fight?
Yes. A bigger and stronger individual will always win. Your fantasy fighting classes will not save you when shit hits the fan.
>>34839490
Kek. You are so fucking clueless. Why are there weight classes anon? Because it's unfair for the heavier guys to get fucked by lighter guys?
Having more mass means you can excert more power. Basic fucking physics. If a skelly fights a hambeast, the hambeast can literally lay on top of him and win. Haven't you seen the "Karma's a bitch" video that went viral? The fat kid almost broke the skinny fag's legs. Pretty sure they didn't have any rules.
Don't be such a fucking contrarian faggot.
>>34839487
It's nice that you think that, but rather than being all growed up you are being naive as fuck. People do get attacked almost randomly, reasonably un preventable violent situations happen all the time.
Getting big is about time, dedication, discipline, routine, and focus. A program can help you with the "routine" part, but all the rest is up to you. You've got to get to the gym. I go six days a week just because I like to work out. When you make the choice to get up and go in no matter how badly you want to stay in bed, then you'll be strong enough in your mind to get stronger in your body.
>>34839490
I always get fucked up in fights because I'm a manlet and not that heavy. Got literally picked up a few times and smacked to the ground. The guys I foight with had 0 fighting skills whatsoever, same as me.
I feel like a giant faggot for getting slapped around so hard by bigger dudes, so please explain to me the inherit advantages I hold by being a light manlet. I'd love to fucking know.
>>34839563
I just want to pick you up and give you a hug bud
>>34839520
>Yes. A bigger and stronger individual will always win.
Confirmed for never having been in a street fight.
>Your fantasy fighting classes will not save you when shit hits the fan.
Says the MMA fuccboi.
>>34839530
>Why are there weight classes anon? Because it's unfair for the heavier guys to get fucked by lighter guys?
Because fighting became too brutal for both sides without rules. Are you retarded or something? Weight classes were introduced after people tried to turn prize fighting into a sport - which turned into boxing later.
You Americans really are as dumb as people say, kinda funny.
>>34839530
>Why are there weight classes anon?
Good question, actually. Sports existed without weight classes for literally millennia.
>>34839582
>implying I'm American
Kek. You haven't proven shit anon. Heavier dudes have an inherit advantage in fighting. Stop acting so smug.
>>34839563
>I feel like a giant faggot for getting slapped around so hard by bigger dudes, so please explain to me the inherit advantages I hold by being a light manlet. I'd love to fucking know.
Easy, you're faster than the bigger guy and can maneuver better. Take a knife and kill him. You're just a pussy, but that's not related to your weight.
Also
>Getting into grappling range with a big guy without having any skills and no heart to really hurt him - while he has no problem hurting you
Americans...
>>34839598
The historic sources are free to read, even on wikipedia. You, on the other hand, don't have any proof or evidence for your laughable arguments.
Also, it's pretty obvious you're American - completely clueless and stupid, yet hell-bent on arguing shit you have no clue about. No other people do this.
>>34839590
Good question.
It reduces the exclusion of smaller athletes in sports where physical size gives a significant advantage.
What is ss? Skinny guy here, I don't drink milk, so no gomad for me.
>>34839600
Hitting range for a manlet is grappling range for big guys
>>34839582
>Confirmed for never having been in a street fight.
Confirmed for watching too much UFC.
In real life if a bug guy grabs you, you're absolutely fucked. I don't care if you're a master Brazilian Blowjob Ninja, you're fucked.
>>34838294
Take up boxing and start lifting weights eat a tonne aswell.Most cunts are fat being bigger than them will disuade them but if they touch you'll know what to do with your hands.
>>34839623
Starting Strength: Basic Barbell Training by Mark Rippetoe
Eat eggs
>>34839582
>my superuir se
>>34839520
You're an idiot.
Yea, mike tyson never won a fight in his life because all his opponents were taller...... wait
Also watch UFC. Recently Arloski destroyed some 6 foot 8 monster with his STAND UP. Didn't even need to use ground game.
Whatever you do, don't do SS.
Whatever you do, don't a pajama sport.
DO do:
1. Get a punch bag and start punching. Why? Cos punching someone bare knuckle requires tough arm bones which on;y come from impact punching.
2. Find a weight program other than SS. SS is literally the worst program out there. Seriously. Anything.
£, Hypertrophy work. if you look bigger, no one's gonna pick no you in the first place.
>>34839665
Mike Tyson was heavyweight...
>>34839674
Post bod bud
>>34839533
>People get attacked randomly and there's nothing you can do than react
>This happens all the time
>There's nothing you can do to prevent to find yourself in such a situation
>You are naive
No, you. But probably I'm talking to some teen, you'll understand hopefully one day how not to get in midst of a street fighting situation. I'm not here pretending to educate anyone, and these kind of things are learnt with experience.
Flee and call the police in the meantime.
>>34839674 what's wrong with ss though? A lot of ppl seem to like it
>>34839665
>Also watch UFC
>I know about street fights man I watch UFC
Fuck off kid. You've never once been in an actual fight, There are no rules IRL, no holds barred. Size will always have the advantage.
>>34839700
the recent hating on ss is a reddit meme ignore the cancer
>>34839690
this is training forum, not grindr.
>>34839692
I've known a few people jumped and attacked randomly and in that situation it's too late to run. And sometimes you cannot flee. I've caught people before doing shit like spike drinks, and they inevitably get aggressive and try to be violent. Look up Kitty Genovese, why would you want to be a bystander when shit like that happens? It may not happen to that degree of severity but you are likely to see someone being attacked at some point in your life.
>>34839725
I wish to see magical hypertrophy gains without beginner routine my closeted friend
As a smaller guy you can still somewhat compensate for height, with muscle mass.
Because most people dont train their muscles, most people dont have jobs that involve lifting heavy weights anymore either.
Seriously, how many people go to the gym out of the whole population? 10% or less?
The truth is that tall, non tall, medium and pretty much all males barely have enough muscle mass to support their daily movements that include picking up toilet paper rolls from isles, ripping open packages and other dumb things.
If you train your muscles and become strong, you can compensate for about 10 cm difference of average I reckon. I mean, you wouldnt fuck with a bobcat barehanded would you, even though its smaller than you.
>>34839700
SS is good but it turns cunts into t-rexes since your legs are being worked out each session.Though the strength gains are worth it if you don't mind having dat ass until you go onto a different routine.
To be honest, all this talk about punching someone and size doesn't matter because you'd be lucky to get punched... there's a higher risk of getting glassed in the face or jumped by a bunch of their friends. The best option is to avoid confrontation and don't put yourself in danger.
>ITT Thread, people who know nothing about fighting try to act like they do
Take jewjitsu or boxing and save money by getting a pullup bar and doing a bodyweight routine. Seems that finding the right martial arts place is tricky. Might be good enough saying fuck it and taking whatever's closest. As long as it's not a dancing class or some stick fighting bullshit it's all good enough if you're not a hooligan, r-right?
Call the cops because he assaulted you and let real men take care of it
You're all idiots - it's dead fucking simple; being bigger means you CAN exert more power, without training though, that doesn't mean shit. If you don't know the techniques needed to transfer your weight into your fist, you will lose the fight.
Also dirty tricks are essential in a street fight, and you gotta know those tricks to use them.
>>34839805
>>34840024
Stop.
All you McDojo nonsense won't save you when You have a beanbag of steroids on top of you.
Lift and buy a gun
Thats why you just buy a gun. Problem solved
>>34840059
hes kinda right though
it happened to my twice now
>guy is taller than me
>grounds me
>I go for the eyes
>feel fingers being behind eyes and pushing into skull
>guy backs off
it also helps if you are stronger than that guy. They never expected it.
>>34838322
If he looked big he probably wouldn't have someone start on him in the first place
>>34840185
If he's bigger than you, and can play dirty he will. He could break your arm like a twig.
>>34840214
Well out of the two fights that I was recently in, this didnt happen and I won. How can someone taller than me snap me if he isnt stronger than me? Sure I might look like a freak not being tall and extremely buff, but I will have more strength and I could snap him instead.
if I go into a bar, chances are that I will not easily find someone stronger than me anyhow since those who do sports are 15% of the population. Of that, less than 5% even develop muscles. Statistically speaking its not entirely a huge worry as I will have more chances to encounter huge slobs, normies and other degenerates than 6.5 feet tall body builders.
>>34840254
>How can someone taller than me snap me if he isnt stronger than me?
We're talking about bigger, not just taller you dense tryhard.
>>34840254
>chances are that I will not easily find someone stronger than me anyhow
ahaha get the fuck over yourself
>>34840333
ppl go to the gym and work the arm machines and the leg machines and eat their protons and shit. they get hueg but they're not strong. they lack join integrity, grind, expression of strength, and they probably omit cardio too. mass isn't strength, and strength is hard fought. so is endurance.
>get the fuck over YOURself
>>34839700
It doesn't make you stronger anymore than any pther program for a beginner would.
Then it stops working altogether, and b/c ur so dumb and know nothing abt lifting you dont know how to think your way out of the plateau.
SS, in its original form that Bill Starr wrote it, was actually for advanced atheltes (gridiron players) who needed a quick strength bump in the pre season. It just doesnt work for beginnners in the way you think it does.
>>34840254
>Sure I might look like a freak not being tall and extremely buff, but I will have more strength and I could snap him instead.
my sides
>>34840306
>>34840333
Bigger doesnt always mean stronger, especially in a society filled with 70% obesity/overweight. Barely anyone lifts weights. Simply the chance of encountering someone like that is very small. My assessment that you could compensate for about 10cm is pretty accurate. Beyond that you will have problems keeping up.
But seriously, do you guys never go outside? Have you seen how most people look like? Go into a city and count all the faggots with belly fat, fat rolls, and other degenerates that seem like their minds wont keep up with their bodies.
Society is made out of pussies, simply the chance of you finding someone who actually worked on his body is fairly small. The ones that are not degenerates usually just avoid fights completely and just talk about how fancy their jobs are.
So yea, for most bars, for most places you will be fine.
>>34840368
you're watching too many movies kiddo
>>34840395
We're not talking about obese people, we're talking about jacked ROCK type people who can and will fuck you up no matter how much your McDojo teacher tells you otherwise.
Get out of your fantasy world. You're not invincible.
>>34838294
save your money from the gym, put it into boxing.
>>34840385
That explains a lot. I always wondered why would you give beginners such a low volume program.
>>34840385
The Bill Starr routine is closer to 5/3/1 than SS tho. A comparable old school beginner program would be something like Reg Parks
>>34838322
Screamed the stableboy
>>34840368
>he gives more of a shit about fighting than looking good
Never seen a pro martial artist under 200lbs that could deadlift or squat heavy
So how the fuck can they say lifting doesnt help
>>34840698
I bet Klokov could beat an ass pretty efficiently.
>>34838569
hes not, hes telling it to some scrawny floormat faggot who might do ss. Tyson was a trained boxer.
>>34840408
God, /fit/ is so shit, I come from /pol/ where my ID is displayed in the thread so one could differentiate between people.
I am not that dude who says that martial arts is magic. My whole point agrees with you, but I am trying to reason about the chances that you may encounter such a monster and how useful working out would be for a normalish person or a manlet.
and I am telling you that till 10 centimeters in height on average one could compensate. On the far end you could even compensate to 15 cm if that person is some skinny lanklet.
But I agree with your point, someone who is taller than you AND worked out for many years to get bulked will probably fuck you up.
But how often do you encounter such a demon in a population of fat slobs and degenerates?
>185cm 68kg
Fuckers that beat people like you should be executed you're literally a child but don't worry i was 61kg at your height though i started lifting when 18yo.
Now 95 kg though people want to fuck with me now a lot more then when i was a fucking skinny fuccboi.
>>34839665
> were taller.
no one said anything about the height you insecure manlet kek
>>34841074
>I came from a board that displays ID
>I wish I could tell who was who
Go to facebook then. This isn't social media.
>>34841285
You dont realize how handy it is for conversations within a thread, limited ID (but still anonymous) is awesome for long winded discussions. Because you dont lose track of who said what to whom. Its not like tripfaggotree, you dont establish an obnoxious personality. Nobody still knows who you are, a single thread wont be enough to narrow you down.
All the benefit of anonimity, without the accidental samefagging. Whats not to love with that?
>>34838553
True, İ am fucking big, not like all muscle, but i was like 95kg and 172meter. Now im like 187 and 90 kg, got more muscle, for me when it was smaller, it waseasier to learn how to fight, i needed to put a lot more effort to learn how to fight after i grew a lot and gained weight, but after like 1.5 years i became a beast, and the combination of big and knowing how to fight and having power is so deadly. Nothing can stop it, besides a gun XD it is really worth it to train hard when you are big(fat)
>>34841332
So, can we call this macroanonymity? I feel like it needs a name.
>>34841410
ha, I dont know, but it works well. I have been here since 2007 and its really neat. Go to /int/ if you want to try it out with a less nazi version. It works really well to avoid bumping against people who you thought that said something else.
I feel like it should be enabled by default, but with an option to switch it off. Wont happen though but oh well.
>>34839469
i don't think YOU know how PEDs work, anon
professional athletes don't roid for size, they do it for the faster recovery
>>34841450
I wish they would keep the dedicated 'hide thread' button for mobile, but fuck that, apparently.
>>34841074
>I come from /pol/
Stay there.
>>34838988
I have this I'm not sure if this is the one you're talking about. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c8b_1436128099&comments=1
>>34841410
>>34841450
>>34841332
This has been the standard on 2chan for ages now, and we had a test run on /b/ not too long ago.
I liked it, but Moot didn't and that was that.
>>34841522
The little dude is clearly the better fighter. A lot of goo It did him.
>>34840571
>The Bill Starr routine is closer to 5/3/1 than SS tho.
I wouldn't go that far, but Starr had a series of programs that progressed form one to the other, depending on your needs.
Rip went all fundamentalist, and liek all fundamentalists he missed the whole point of the exercise. (actually, he probabl;y knew what he was doing, which was akin to snake oil salesman selling a dud profit that idiots would buy and in the process make him very rich.)
>>34838322
Being bigger helps in real life simply because we don't fight based on weight classes. It's a simple way to be less likely to be fucked up or even fucked with in the first place.
>>34838294
Take some boxing lessons as well as lifting weights. the are cheap and effective. IF your a huge pussy and you lift weights and get bigger your still gonna be a huge pussy. Just last weekend my 6'2 160 lb friend beat the shit out of this built dude who was probably 6'0 190ish. neither of them train in martial arts.
>>34841805
>Being bigger helps in real life simply because we don't fight based on weight classes.
/thread
>>34841902
but if your main goal is to defend yourself it would be stupid to not also learn how to fight. being big doesn't make you invincible.
>>34838350
Brosef, you are me and I am you. Start eatimg, amd eating. Lift weights and put them down in sets. Idk how to fight either, but what we do have is nerd rage. Channel it into your workouts, you have to fight even if you lose, because you will still get your ass beat.
There are no rules in a street fight. Go for the testicles or eyes. Kidney ounches or kicks. A good shot to the nose, or jaw will give you enough time to fight dirty.
Stand up for yourself f4m. You are literally part of generations upon generations of successful males who went onto to spread their dna.
You will make it.
>>34838294
It doesn't matter how big you get. your always gonna be a pussy. when you get bigger you will just be a pussy with some muscle mass. just give up now.
>>34841877
this
if you're gonna work out go for isometrics/compounds and when you box work through the "forearm splints" feeling, if you dont get that feeling every once in a while you're not going to strengthen anything in your arm
get a lot out of cardio in but also work on explosiveness, streetfights can be completely out of the blue like yours was and gassing out doesn't matter when the fight only lasts 30 seconds
also get a sparring partner with roughly the same size and skill level if you can, maybe another skelly friend, that way you have somebody that can beat on you without fucking you up, you HAVE to get the shit knocked out of you a lot to get used to it
and dont forget to work your neck out, you absolutely need it, i'd even go as far to say theres a pretty good consensus on what you need to have strongest in order from top to bottom
>legs
>core, not abs, core
>back
>neck
>back
>shoulders
>arms (strength and explosive power not included, you don't need jacked looking arms)
>>34838294
Self defence instructor here, getting big won't help you in a fight, when I worked as a bouncer I loved fucking up body builders because they thought size gave them any advantage.
Join a martial arts club that isn't a sport (boxing, mma) or a traditional one (karate), then train for that.
You will also need to learn to not be a bitch, knowing how to fight and being big won't do shit if you aren't aggressive.
Believe me or don't, /fit/ is nearly as shitty a hugbox as the HAES community.
>>34841927
Knowing how to fight won't prevent fights. Do both.
>>34841986
This opie, you came to the wrong board. Being big doesn't mean you can fight. /fit/ is extremely deluded on this matter
>>34841986
Getting big will help avoid the fight by intimidation. 9/10 times works just like in the animal kingdom
>>34841986
while i agree martial arts are alot more effective then just getting big, wouldn't it be beneficial to do both?
>>34841981
Why legs?
>>34842042
not if your a manlet.
>>34841986
>/fit/ is nearly as shitty a hugbox as the HAES community.
Nobody is hugboxing you autist. The whole argument everybody is bitching about is that size =/= strength =/= fighting capability, nobody is defending anything other than a justifiable ideal.
Not sure who is baiting or not but it's been scientifically proven that size roughly equals strength, a big guy is going to be stronger than a guy who is 100 pounds soaking wet. And yes, holy fuck, we get it, just because you're big that doesn't mean you can fight. But the argument here is "would a big guy be a BETTER fighter."
>>34842051
explosive power and endurance, a lot of punching power comes from the hips, legs, and generally the posterior chain, and if your calves and lower back are burning midway through the fight because you never work them then you can no longer punch hard or slip quickly
>>34842055
>implying manlets aren't the ones starting the fights
>>34842042
>Getting big will help avoid the fight by intimidation. 9/10 times works just like in the animal kingdom
Getting big won't make you intimidating if you are a bitch though, if you can't get aggressive you will be beaten up by a manlet with a chip on his shoulder because he can smell the estrogen on you.
>>34842086
How does this apply to bar and street fights, which are usually over in a few seconds?
>>34838322
There is a video of McGregor vs The Mountain.... maybe an extreme example, but it does show that size matters, right?
>>34842048
>wouldn't it be beneficial to do both?
You would think that, but being conditioned is a big part of learning martial arts, and you won't learn much if you don't progress in the belts.
Enjoy trying to fit in lifting and eating enough while attending MA at least 2 nights a week, the cardio and conditioning will tire you out by the time you get to lifting.
>>34842064
>Nobody is hugboxing you autist.
You clearly don't see these threads all the time on here then.
Many self certified big guys think being big = Bruce Lee tier fighting ability.
>>34841520
how else will I be able to wring out all the joos without strength?
>>34842128
>explosive power
>a lot of punching power comes from the hips, legs, and generally the posterior chain
>punch hard or slip quickly
its like i'm reading what i wrote to you like you are a toddler
if you don't have wheels on a racecar it won't move, if you have a shit engine in a racecar it won't go fast enough to win
>>34842064
Who cares. The dude needs confidence and learning how to fight will give him that. Just being big won't help if some drunk fucker decides to fight anyway. He's a natural skeleton so he should dedicate his time to learn how to fight.
>>34842146
Until you can prove the people posting in here are the people posting in "these threads" it doesn't matter.
>>Many self certified big guys think being big = Bruce Lee tier fighting ability.
Once again, until you stop using bullshit/anecdotal evidence and actually supplement a rebuttal in relation to what is going on now in THIS THREAD, it doesn't matter.
>>34842104
>being big won't intimidate anybody
Fuck yeah it will. Deny psychology though.
>>34842165
>>Who cares.
clearly you if you're going to argue like this is the youtube comments section, you giant cocksucker
>>34842165
>>"would a big guy be a BETTER fighter."
>>"would a big guy be a BETTER fighter."
>>"would a big guy be a BETTER fighter."
You are either a retarded contrarian or illiterate, being good at fighting won't help if the guy you are fighting is not only bigger than you but of equal skill. That's the fucking point, you don't know who is good at what in a street fight until it happens, which is why being some karate gi wearing 90 pound Auschwitz champion is shit.
>>34842155
More than half of your post was about endurance.
>>34842189
Nice ad hom. He should dedicate all his free time to fighting, simple as that. He can lift and do cardio on the side if he wants but learning a fighting skill takes up a shitload of time on its own.
>>34842086
Hey it's the first time I got a confidence boost from being natural TRex mode
>>34842230
Some random drunk motherfucker at a pub isn't going to be some martial arts master. He should learn how to fight yes, and he should lift if he has the time to do it.
>>34842233
you literally just proved you can't read or didn't read maybe all of 30 words then
>>34842262
>Some random drunk motherfucker at a pub isn't going to be some martial arts master.
Nice strawman, I didn't say he had to be. I'm saying that as common sense, if two guys are of equal skill, the bigger one would win because he has the simple advantage of strength.
>He should learn how to fight yes, and he should lift if he has the time to do it.
Why are you still jerking off like some retard then? That is exactly what everybody is saying, lift weights to enhance your size and train in a martial art to enhance your skill, it isn't rocket science.
>>34842241
i'm not going to give somebody who says "who cares" anything more than ad hom you autistic faggot
you only need an hour to an hour and a half tops at the gym, and no learning to fight does not take that much time, clearly if he has the freetime to go to bars and get his shit kicked in he would have the free time to do both
>>34842263
No, I read the fuckin statement. I was just pointing out how you spent most of that sentence talking about endurance, which isn't worth a shit in a bar or street fight.
>>34842309
He works at the pub mate. A beginner is going to need more than half an hour lol. Like I said he can try both but his focus should be learning how to fight, that will give him the confidence he sorely needs.
>>34842293
I just came in this thread after reading, I think you have me confused with someone else bro.
>>34842345
well then the part i did talk about is the part you were looking for, holy fuck
do you go through a dictionary looking for a word and then get mad they have a bunch of words you weren't looking for?
>>34842355
who said it has to be half an hour? even if you're not the guy that other anon was arguing with you're still strawmanning like a 14 year old
>>34842355
Really doesn't matter who you are, you're still being a retard.
>>34838322
>implying you can't get big and learn to fight
also its not just about getting big, its training explosive strength as well, do pylos, sprints, power cleans, and bag training. gaining weight should be your fist priority right now, 1.85m/70kg just isn't healthy period, get it up to 85kg.
endurance is important too but not much so for a bar fight or street fight.
>>34842365
Nope.
>>34838896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPDnxMLsQBk
How do you feel about this?
>>34842667
Dude, that's crazy.
I remember being thrown like that in midschool, it took the bastard more time, though, maybe because there wasn't such size difference.
>tfw 175 cm, 72 kg now.
I really have to get into lifting.
>>34838491
>I am small and got hurt, how do I be less small?
Get bigger, SS, GOMAD
>Don't tell him to get better it won't teach him to fight.
Get bigger anyway because it's harder to push around a big guy
>Hahaha, I am better at fighting due to my fighting training than someone who doesn't train in fighting. I am glad when people get hurt if they didn't train in fighting, they deserve it for not training in fighting.
Dude, he just wants to know how to get bigger.
He didn't ask how to win fights. He's not looking for fights, he's looking to avoid them.
Shit. Calm the fuck down. Not everyone enjoys physical confrontations and tests of skill. Some people just want to be able to chill without being constantly afraid that literally anyone in any room will be able to mug them bare handed.
>>34839600
>you're faster than the bigger guy and can maneuver better
This is simply not a fact.
It may or may not be on an individual basis. It it not safe to assume that smaller = faster.
In many sports, smaller elite athletes are faster while bigger athletes are stronger.
That's because only the small athletes quick enough to compensate for their lack of size can make it.
>>34839740
Don't go to places that these kinds of people go?
I'm not suggesting you live in a gated community, but if you avoid places and times where/when people are under the influences of behaviour altering substances you can avoid danger pretty easily.
You don't even have to be a shut in, just don't go to fucked up clubs and shit.
>>34839752
What you're telling me is to carry knives?
Because bobcats have sharp bits.
>>34838294
Lol I'm 188cm 63kg get on my level
>want to stay away from fights
get big and intimidating
>want to win in fights
Start mma,boxing, muay thai or kickboxing. Just being big and winning because of that is just a meme started by meatheads who think fighting is just throwing haymakers and getting headlocks.
>easy way
get a fucking knife or gun
>>34841986
>Self defence instructor here
>when I worked as a bouncer I loved fucking up [literally doesn't matter how this sentence goes]
Alright then buddy.
>>34839600
>take a knife and kill him
Big guys can carry knives too. They can even carry them better, since their reach is better, which is particularly important in a knife fight.
>>34843179
Wait isn't it better to stay away from fights if you're not a brain-rot anime fag or angry-at-life manlet?
>>34841074
Literally kill yourself.
>>34843393
Yes, but all these kids watch too much worldstar and ufc garbage, so they want to be cool and end up in jail kek.
>>34843073
>I'm not suggesting you live in a gated community,
>You don't even have to be a shut in
I feel like you're a shut in in a gated community right now.
>>34843393
It's best to control a situation. If you can avoid fighting and running away that's really the best way, most of what people are talking about itt are the kind of dick waving fights that involve a lot of talking beforehand, there situations can be controlled somewhat.
>>34838294
You need a three pronged aproach OP.
>Get a knife
>Start exercising at the gym, both cardio and weights
>Go vegan
Why go vegan? I don't know, but honestly, I mean... well okay, you can skip that.
>>34844853
What about him figuratively killing himself?
>>34844853
Don't you have a blog about cats to write?
Maybe you shouldn't have been dressed like that if you didn't want attention
>>34845091
Literally killing yourself is a metaphor.
>>34838322
>>34838322
>being bigger won't help
idiot, pub fights are EXACTLY the sort of fights (read: every 'fight' you will ever encounter in real life) where the biggest and most aggressive guy will win. OP is never going to be a professional boxer, the easiest thing for him to do is bulk up and put on another 20kg, optimally with 15kg or so of that being muscle, which is possible natty since at 68kg at 6'1 he likely has very little.
>>34839333
Here.
>>34845191
This is the I took a week of martial art class and can beat a pipe bomb type charts.
>>34839650
>runners actually believe this
>>34838294
Nothing will save you from getting thrown down from behind and kicked. You can not defend against something that you didn't see coming unless you're some autist ninja wannabe that's always on edge. You got jumped, it happened. It has nothing to do with your weight or size. It doesn't reflect anything about your abilities. Doing extensive martial arts/ mixed martial arts could help, but really it's not a panacea for not getting hurt when someone jumps you. Even less of a chance when you're drunk at the pub and someone jumps you.
>>34839469
Tyson was not a bodybuilder, I lift weights and Im roiding. Im still smaller than tyson, same height.
The guy was most likely cruising at small doses for years.
>>34845318
bet he wouldn't have been grabbed if he was aesthetic and swole.
but please, keep preaching weakness to the masses, it only makes it easier to gym bully them ;^)
>implying weight classes exist because size trumps skill
It's because assuming the SKILL LEVELS are close to each other weight plays a big part and the larger person wins. Obviously someone like the Mountain would destroy a trained 130 pound guy would be smothered but a 200 pound trained fighter would crush the mountain in a fight.
>>34838322
Manlet skelly detected.
>>34842133
Did you even watch that video? They were playfully tapping each other. Almost nothing can be gleaned from that.
>>34839637
In real life if a bug guy grabs you, you shoot him in his head.
>>34839637
>bug guy
Just use my insect spray.
>>34839637
What if I am a qt master blowjob pirate? :3
