On Monday morning at 7:05am I ingested a scoop of pure caffeine powder thinking it was pretty workout. Total accident, carelessness on my part. It was 11,000-12,000mg of caffeine I consumed. Not really sure why I'm not dead. I spent 30 hours in ER/ICU rooms before being discharged. Still tweaking out. Can't focus. My jaw hurts like a motherfucker. Exhausted and sleepy and alert and restless all at the same time right now.
I didn't have the mental capacity to feel fear, all I could comprehend was pain. The first time I could understand my surroundings it was like 4:00-4:30 am on Tuesday.
Pic related, I guess I took it but I don't remember taking it. Monday is just fragments of shaking, slipping in and out of consciousness and knowing only pain not even fear
My stats:
5'11
Was 102 kilo, but now I'm 96.5 kilo
22 years old
18-20% body fat
1.5 plate ohp for reps
I don't bench but I did 2 plate at some point for reps
2.5 plate squat for reps
4 plate deadlift for reps
Although I predict they will go down by the time I go back
Ask questions, shitpost away, I just feel like talking to whoever will listen
Lying in bed atm
>>32040412
why is pure caffeine powder just sitting around where you live?
Any new outlooks on life other than the realization that you're a retard?
>>32040412
YOU FUKIN WOT!?!?!?
HOW BIG WAS THE FUCKING SCOOP!?!?!?
WHAT DID YOU MIX IT WITH?!?!?!
HOW DID YOU GET TO THE HOSPITAL!?!?
preworkout, not even once
>>32040412
Your gains saved you. Any lesser man would of died after ingesting that much caffeine.
how long did it take for you to realise you took too much and how did it feel?
did you puke some of it out? how did you not know it was caffeine?
>>32040412
why is your deadlift almost 150 lbs more than your squat? Is that a ballsack to grass paused squat?
>>32040412
You almost left humanity behind.
>>32040412
Saved by gains. Once you're out, work to get them back. They don't deserve to be stolen by the gains goblin.
There is no antidote to caffeine apparently, and since it was powder form it activated within minutes
I was already driving down the road and it felt like I was hit by a truck that lit my entire brain on fire
Someone behind me was honking and I remember not giving a fuck, using all my focus to turn around and go home and call an ambulance
My heart rate was 200+ after about an hour or two I think, making it so it wasn't fully pumping my blood, causing me to slip in and out of consciousness for an amount of time I couldn't understand
Have you discovered any superpowers yet?
people like you get shit banned. I remember when you could buy ephedrine based ECA stacks right across the counter at any store. Then your kind fucked it up for the rest of us.
I don't wish you ill at the same time I don't feel sorry for you either
>>32040412
ONLY ONE, C'MON!
>>32040412
Wow you lost 6,5 kilos? I can't wait to start my 11kcafeen regiment.
>>32040508
>Thank You For Lifting
>>32040508
He wouldn't have taken the caffeine if he didn't lift ttho.
How's your dick?
>>32040412
so what exactly did you do during the 21 hours you weren't aware? caffeine rampage?
on laptop now to make posting easier
>>32040453
my dad also lifts and bought it in bulk to make his own preworkout
i wasn't aware of what it was
>>32040475
not really. it wasn't an accident out of my control or anything, just carelessness, so i'm not all "oh man better live every day to the fullest"
this could change, not sure about lasting effects on my psyche
>>32040477
i put a 20-22gram scoop of whatever it was into some water and drank it
>>32040508
that's what i keep telling myself
>>32040511
i felt it within minutes and it was excruciating
nothing to puke out, the last time i had anything to eat was the previous night at 10:35pm
>>32040524
could be a number of things
going to guess poor flexibility, doing deadlifts before squats on the same day making me tired
>>32040525
i almost became a wealthy instrument
>>32040542
yeah i want to lift again asap
every muscle in my body feels like it has DOMS
i'm told i was in convulsing violent seizures for hours straight
>>32040545
i've enter a heightened state of "i don't give a fuck" mode
i've also been talking to everyone i see without a filter
>>32040550
understandable, i was careless and i know that
>>32040561
i think if i had even a little bit more i'd be gone
>>32040525
kek
>>32040616
it would be extremely painful
>>32040661
i'm actually legitimately scared i could have erectile dysfunction
but it could just be a lack of sex drive, and can't focus on anything long enough to get hard
>>32040682
i'm told just violent seizures, screaming/babbling noises, shaking, passing out constantly
>>32040550
Retards like him don't get shit banned, overbeaing governments and brainless nanny state busybodies do. Place the blame where it belongs.
>>32040729
>it would be extremely painful
FOR YOU
Holy shit I'm so fucking sorry
>mfw I'm so careless this could happen to me
god damn caffeine ain't nothing to be fucked wit is it now
glad ur ok my nigga
get good soon
>>32040729
stim dick is real brah, it will recover
I currently have no caffeine tolerance and get jitters from a cup of coffee, I would be dead if I'd taken that much.
random memories:
when some doctor was discharging me from the hospital at the end, he had called poison control and asked "i'm about to discharge the patient who consumed 11grams of caffeine. any advice for him?" then silence for a bit and a voice squeaked "he's alive?"
i recognized a male nurse, who gave me an EKG when i first arrived, as i was leaving
imagine that shit
having a shift, seeing something crazy as fuck, and then seeing them just walk away during your next shift
last night at 5:30 i ate half an ice cream sandwich, then had the impulse to throw the other half out the back door into my back yard
felt guilty for wasting it
>two days ago a fag has a stroke while squatting
>yesterday a bitch dies from taking 8 DNP tablets
>today a fag almost died from ingesting too much pure caffeine
what's next, tomorrow Elliot Rodger and Hugh resurrect and go on a creatine-induced killing spree?
>>32040864
>elliot goes on a killing spree because creatine didn't give him gains.
shit like this is why I'll never do dnp, I just know I'd have a brain fart and accidently double dose or worse
>>32040864
So it's the natural selection week it seems.
You absolute madman OP
>>32040814
>>32040823
thanks friends
>>32040837
i'll keep stim dick in mind/research it, never heard about that
the previous time i had any respectable amount of caffeine was like 3-4 weeks prior and it was like 200mg each morning
well op im glad youre ok
>>32040695
>20 gram scoop
Did you think it was protein or something?
>>32040412
m8 you lost 5 kgs in three days if that britbong girl who died for overdosing dnp was still alive I'd tell you two to give her a call, you were soulmates
at what point did you black out after you consumed the caffeine and what did you do the hour after you indigested the caffeine
I guess Futurama was wrong since you didn't enter a Fry Zen state of being and saved your wafiu.
>>32041152
Fry eased into it, this guy was slammed by the astral plane within 20 minutes.
What are peoples reactions to what happened? Dad? Mom? Freinds? Doctors?
Do you feel like a superhuman for surviving?
can you overdose on caffeine from regular coffee?
Good god man I'm glad your ok. Consider some combination of modern medicine and your fitness was capable of filtering a lethal amount of caffeine without permanently crippling you.
You were probably an invaluable learning tool for the medical field too. Think of all they have learned about this rare occurrence from you.
>>32041152
To be fair that was a hundred cups of coffee spread out over ~36 hours.
>>32041209
Yeah, just eat a whole can of powder coffee.
LD50 for caffeine is like 20g. You werent even halfway to death you vadge badge.
>>32041209
A cup of coffee is like 100 mg, so you would need 120 cups to get the amount OP consumed. I don't see this happening.
However, you can consume enough coffee in a short enough time to get palpitations. My mother experienced this in college when she was regularly consuming 5 pots of coffee daily. Her heart rate was irregular and sitting around 120 bpm one day, so she went to the hospital to get checked out.
>>32041209
A regular cup has about 200 mg of caffeine, I believe. So OP ingested 60 cups at once. It would be hard to do that.
>>32040412
Our progress in science and medicine just cockblocked the natural selection. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.
As someone who has a kilo of pure caffeine powder sitting on their desk and who uses it regularly
This has to be a lie
How absolutely foul tasting the pure powder is can't be described. You would have realized you were drinking poison the second the drink you mixed touched your lips, especially if you used a fucking 20g scoop of it
>>32041263
the LD50 for a 102kg male is 12.954grams
>>32041274
An 8oz filter or a single shot of espresso has between 40-50mg of caffeine. You can't od on brewed coffee, you'll drown or piss it out before absorbing enough caffeine into your blood.
>>32040910
thanks mate
>>32040940
i thought it was my old pre-workout i used to take
>>32040976
never saw that/heard the story
>>32040986
probably black out the first time after 2-3 hours and entered intense seizures
in the first 15 minutes i went back home, called and got into an ambulance, arrived at the hospital by the end of the first hour of ingestion
>>32041152
that's what i've been comparing this too
except it's like 5 times as bad
and not as funny
>>32041183
yeah. i think this is the same as drinking 150 red bulls at the same time
>>32041198
dad i'm not sure, haven't talked to him much since i got back. he's just back to work and kind of just accepts it happened, it's over, outlook seems fine. we hugged though, for the third time in my entire memory
mom keeps smiling and cracking jokes and just being cheerful
friends can barely comprehend the situation i was in, but are supportive
lifting buddy basically said "well shit happens, don't do it again you fool"
doctors and nurses were just dumbfounded and shocked as hell
as for feeling like a superhuman, maybe a little, but i feel more like "wow that was pretty dumb"
also i can't look into a mirror without laughing hysterically
>>32041263
toxic dose low is 51mg/kg so 5g for him.
He could have died easily
How did your dad react?
Apparently the lethal dose for caffeine is around 150 mg per kilogram. You were on the precipice of that by ingested 107 to 117mg per kilo within minutes.
I'm also guessing 150mg per kg might be a high estimate since other sources say can take as little as 1 gram to kill a person.
You are one lucky nigger, you better offer some sacrifice to the gainz gods for sparing your life.
>>32041298
I accidentally took 400mg one time, and I felt like my heart was going crazy.
>>32041307
>>32041295
Ah nevermind.
>mfw I would have died because whenever I feel sick the first thing I do is just lay down and wait till it passes
>mfw I would have never called the ambulance before blacking out
>>32041227
yeah i'm actually interested to see if any doctors want to approach me and use my case in any studies or something
thinking of going back to the hospital and asking if any students/doctors are interested in talking to me
again i just want to talk to anyone that wants to listen
>>32041263
laughed really hard at "vadge badge"
>>32041282
it did taste bad, but i've been consuming unflavoured whey protein for 6+ months prior to this that, mixed only with water, so i assumed this was also just something that was supposed to taste like complete shit as well
again, it was some weird caffeine/supplement mix my dad made and i was careless and didn't read it
>>32041284
does that mean i would just be straight up dead if i consumed 954mg more?
>>32041356
Nigga that much caffeine in one cup of water would have been harder to drink than a cup of everclear
I'm having a hard time buying it...
Damn man, furthest I've gotten with caffeine OD was feeling like I was having an arrhythmia
>>32041353
>he gets sick
Fuck, I haven't been sick since I was a kid. Whilst pretty good to never have your liftan interrupted it sucks when you are literally the only one at your workplace not being home on sickleave.
>>32040864
Wait I missed the first story. Is there any archived source?
>>32041417
be thankful, being sick sucks ass. I wish I had a godly immune system like yours.
>>32041430
https://archive.moe/fit/thread/31986527/#31986527
>>32041356
LD50 means 50% of people will die at that dose
so at 12g you were actually still more likely to live than die
>>32041284
17-20g LD50. Theres people who have taken more than 30g and are alive.
>>32041458
Thanks
>>32041472
>rhabdo
rip OPs gains, might as well have done crossfit tbh
>>32041453
While true almost always, this particular situation sucks.
Everyone has the flu. Except me. I'm doing the work of 4 people alone, working 16 hours/day for the last week. This day one of my coworkers came back so got it down to 13, so I got a short workout+/fit/ shitposting back into my schedule.
But yes, feels good.
OP - medfag here. can you tell me how they treated you? i'm assuming some beta-blocker, or diazepines? please tell what meds you were given. you're lucky to be alive, but not sure how you could be so stupid as to consume a powder which you hadn't identified.
>>32041430
Dunno bout that story, but the general consensus is, shit like squatting or bearing down, as in shittin, or lifting, increase the immediate risk of death- for people already on their way out. As in, if you were about to have a heart attack in the next month or two anyway, thanks to your shit life habits and/or genetics, squatting 400 punds ATG might just send you on your way a bit sooner.
So fear not death during getting swole. If you do die, it just means it was meant to be anyway, and quite soon. But getting swole will make your body more resilient to disease in the first place, so less likely to kark out. Its a win-win.
how does that dose compare to psychedelics?
>>32041605
>mfw
>>32040412
>The LD50 of caffeine in humans is dependent on individual sensitivity, but is estimated to be 150 to 200 milligrams per kilogram of body mass (75-100 cups of coffee for a 70 kilogram adult).
>OP's LD50 is between 15300 and 20400
I hope you realize just how fucking lucky you are mate.
>>32040412
>11g pure caffeine
>110 cups of coffee
>16,5 fucking liters of god damn coffee
How on earth are you still alive OP
Did the same thing once with pure caffeine powder. It was me being a complete fucking idiot though. Used micro scale and just wasn't paying attention to decimal points and ended up taking about 4000mg. Not quite as high as op but didn't go to the hospital, just drank a fuck ton of water, walked and walked and walked to sweat out and threw up a lot
>>32041733
Do you really expect the autists on fit to know what LD50 means?
>>32040550
You have never made a mistake? Dont be a tool. Statistically these things will happen, which is why no company will stand behind it, which is why you go through black market and simplu take full responsibility for your own liklihood of making a simple but dangerous mistake.
Feel better op. Dont fuck up again.
>>32041786
Ld50
Lethal dose 50%
The dose that would kill 50% of the population
It's not hard
>>32040412
The thought of something like this terrifies me, I have like 10 grams of Yohimbine powder at home. Fortunately it has a very distinct feel and taste so I'd realize what was happening before I massively overdosed.
>>32040543
>I was already driving down the road
You fucking retard.
Why would you even think about driving in that situation.
Feel free to kill yourself anytime you want, but dont risk killing random people because you're a fucking idiot.
>>32041353
I've had 3 ashtma attacks in my life where I just slept them off. Dumbest shit in the world but I just don't want to be that fucking guy that goes to the doctor every time some small shit happens
>>32041592
Thanks for your nice words. Honestly I got a bit scared after reading that archived thread
>>32041353
Are you talking about OP? Because I don't think you would have been able to lie down and relax.
Also he still didn't mention who called the ambulance or if anyone else was home.
>>32041899
>Why would you even think about driving in that situation.
Because maybe he didn't know at first?
>>32041899
>Accidentally take coffein powder instead of a normal preworkout
>Drive to gym like you normally would
Don't see the problem there. Except for the 11g coffeine.
>>32041899
He was already driving when it hit him and he realized he fucked up. You do realize OP didn't take the caffeine on purpose right?
>>32041946
>>32041947
>>32041957
Yeah sorry it wasn't clear on his first few posts I just thought he was an idiot.
>>32041978
Nah I understand, sometimes people think they can drive to the hospital themselves and save the cost of an ambulance but that puts everyone else at risk.
>>32042002
That's why first world countries don't charge citizens for ambulance rides.
>>32042060
America does. It's like $800.
That's why it is within your rights to refuse it and take a cab at your own risk. It wouldn't cost so much if everyone paid their share, but hospitals only get paid about 10% of what they're owed because so many people come in and can't pay.
>>32042156
but that's why he said "first world coutries" you silly goose
how's 140g of caffeine, does it make any slight chance on performance?
I drink those capsule coffees 20 mins before gym to wake my brain up, probs plabeco but hey it works
>>32042156
>$800
I sincerely hope you're joking
>>32042184
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/rich-countries/the-10-richest-economies-in-the-world-in-2014/10/
Whoops. Guess no one is a first world country then.
>>32042456
Well, $750 is the base cost and every mile costs something like $8. So yeah about $800. Sometimes a lot more.
It depends on your insurance though, if you have a decent insurance plan they will cover ambulance costs because they realize that it's better than their clients trying to drive themselves and getting in to a huge wreck with even more medical costs.
>>32042481
Teaching an American what "per capita" means is anti-freedom
>>32042513
>>32042513
>teaching some edgy anti-american on the internet how first world is defined is too pro-american
But if you wanted to change the definition, America is still in the top 10.
ebin :^)
>>32042580
In terms of inequality adjusted HDI, America is below Greece, the sick man of Europe
>>32041786
You're not as uniquely knowledgeable as you think
>>32040412
bro you lost 6 kilos in a day..this is a neat cutting method
>>32042608
>what is moving the goalposts
But to humor your assertion, you're saying we should use a measurement that declares Greece (the aforementioned sick man of Europe [read: shithole]) as one of the most successful countries in the world?
If you reverse the per capita income, America is in the bottom ten. Maybe we should use that backwards measurement to further support your opinion?
:^)
America is shitty in many, many respects, but trying to insult America on the basis of wealth accumulation (which was what the original post did) is a pretty retarded way to go. Just do yourself a favor and give up already.
>>32042358
>140g of caffeine
You tryin to beat OP's score, huh?
>>32042676
still not quite as good as 17 sieverts
>>32040453
Paramedic here.
I've seen people freaking out and all types of shit, you name it. By the far the most fucked up substance I've ever seen a dude OD on was caffeine. Guy didn't even take that much, was just super sensitive to it. Got him in the ambulance and he look like Golem trying to jack off with after he snorted some coke and got his hands cut off. Once get him tied down his HR was 320 the whole way to hospital.
Caffeine. Not even once
Welcome to the "I survived a heroic dose of poison" club. 80mg nicotine here, I'll be your guide.
>You took how many grams of caffeine?!?
>>32040412
why do you have a tub of caffeine powder
>>32043214
>320
wtf dude my hands are sweaty just imagining
>>32043349
How'd that happen? DId you drink a bottle of vape juice or some shit? What was it like?
>>32043349
I had an idiot roommate once (who was also alcoholic) that broke his vape and started dabbing the juice under his tongue.
He got really shifty one week and started accusing people of tampering with his food
>>32043349
How did you ingest that? I've sometimes used 4dosa extra strong snus at a time to get a kick when smaller doses started to not affect but it's not like all of that shit came off into me.
>>32040729
You're a big guy
Having a really hard time believing OPs story. Caffeine is EXTREMELY bitter in its raw state.
Buy a small pouch of caffeine powder and attempt to drink it in 8fl oz of water.
>It's going to be absolutely disgusting
back again
>>32041387
yeah my peak heart rate was like 200+ or something
>>32041581
i was hooked up to an IV drip with what i heard had potassium in it at
i was given periodic injections of something that sounded like the word "gravel" for dizziness
towards the final 8 hours i was given half a cup of activated charcoal every hour
i don't recall anything else
i recall the doctor telling my father that there's no antidote for caffeine overdose, and that since it was a powder it was too late for charcoal at that stage
>>32041605
never tried any so i'm not sure
>>32041733
still wrapping my head around it and going over the facts, but yeah i understand i think
>>32041738
zyzz watches over me
>>32041764
i recall sweating profusely now, multiple times when i became hydrated again
latino paramedic in the ambulance was like "sweating a bit there eh buddey?"
>>32041799
thanks friend. carelessness on my part and i don't plan on making mistakes, but everyone says that
>>32041877
i've had yohimbine before, shit was spooky and i didn't even take that much
>>32041899
i was already driving to the gym and it hit instantly after about 3 minutes after ingestion
>>32041916
i used to have asthma when i was obese (i used to weigh 133-135 kilo back in early 2014)
>>32041942
i woke up my younger brother, but he didn't do anything other than pull out a chair for me
also 3 younger sisters in house but i was gone before they woke up
>>32042002
>>32042060
>>32042156
>>32042501
took all my focus to drive home safely, i just did right turns and came back
i'm in canada so none of this will cost me anything personally thankfully (i'm poor as fuck)
>>32042358
140g
ayy lmao
>>32042513
laughed at the term "anti-freedom"
>>32042676
back up to 98 kilo now, as of 48 + 12 hours later
>>32043214
i considered if i had a sensitivity to it or not, usually just having 200mg before a workout amped me up some
not sure though
>>32043349
shit man, that's really insane
nice surviving
>>32043534
"this many"
>>32043555
my dad bought it to create his own pre-workout mixture (he lifts too)
>>32043854
for you
>>32043950
i'm used to consuming nasty shit and flavourless whatever
lost lots of weight in 2014/2015 eating flavourless whey powder, bland as fuck diet, etc
>>32044073
>activated charcoal
>not activated almonds
I am disappoint
>>32041670
SOCAL
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Magic johnson here
Lets all play AoE.
>>32040412
You taste-impaired kent, anhydrous caffeine is unbelievably bitter. How could you mistake that shit for even the worst-tasting preworkout? Are you in the middle of the worst cold of your life?
>>32045011
not much else to say that i already have, i just got use to flavourless, bitter, nasty tasting supplements/food in my journey of weight loss
>>32040695
read this entire thread for great lulz and this is the thing that still gets me.
> I wasn't aware of what it was
Like... jesus christ OP. This is some grade school shit where they tell you not to eat whats under the sink.
>>32044937
He wants to play friday
>>32040412
but how was your workout? did you PR?
>>32045238
my dad was in the process of mixing his own brand of pre-workout over the weekend and i mistakenly took a scoop
>>32045260
yeah i did a 7 plate diddlylift and maxed out the cable machine for cable crunches
always check your gut feeling. if the coffee isn't making you gag out then its good coffee and i hope you learned from this.
>>32045262
Oh, i know what the story is, but you just scooped a powder without confirming what it was and just drank it. That shits hilarious to me for some reason.
>>32045301
oh alright. yeah guess it was just habit, my routine is just wake up, take pre-shake, go straight to gym, 5-6 times a week
he was using the container that my old pre-workout was in
>>32040889
Top kek
Glade you're ok OP. I drank a 36 pack of ghetto red bull once and that was horrible. Me and my friend stayed up for 2 days and drank Jagerbombs. We were shitting and throwing up like every 2 hours. We looked like meth heads. I then crashed and slept at this girls house for a whole day. She thinks i'm a junkie now. I didn't even get laid either.
>>32045326
can you describe the pain in any further detail.
was it a headache? were there physical pains like aches?
>>32045500
damn that's actually really crazy as fuck
>>32045561
first/best ideas that come to mind
after 3 minutes: truck hit me, lit my brain of fire. POV entered quake mode
after what i think was an hour or two: shaking and slamming my limbs into the side of the bed handles. each slam felt like what i'd imagine being shot by a gun feels like
fragments of memories in the following 20 hours or whatever: excruciating, unfathomable pain i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. as if every nerve in my body was being stabbed and set on fire. blocked out everything else - no emotions/thoughts, only pain. happily not conscious for most of this, and if i was i don't remember more than maybe 2-3 hours total
final 8 hours: rolling headaches, shaking, twitching, general feelings of pain/agony/illness
after getting home: left shin/ankle really sore (probably from smashing against shit), jaw sore as FUCK, vocal cords sore, heart tickles. rolling headaches. joints are all stiff and achey
as of right now: jaw still hurts like a bitch, and it feels like i have DOMS on every muscle in my body
Shit OP, here's your girlfriend. I seriously hope you'd feel better starting tomorrow morning.
>>32040412
FOUR SCOOPS, CMON
>>32040412
Goddamn dude, did they have you on dialysis or anything? There's no way your body can metabolise or excrete that much caffeine safely.
>>32046214
kek
>>32046286
they were actually really close to putting me on kidney dialysis around the 24 hour mark. something about the seizures finally stopping
but the blood work came back, they did a huddle, and said i wouldnt need it
walked out 6 hours later with the guy discharging me saying that supplements just straight up don't work and i should just give him my money instead of buying them
some retarded reasoning like "if supplements worked, nobody would be fat"
didnt feel at all like arguing or being angry at the stupidity of it
but holy fuck that had to have been close to the dumbest shit i ever heard
>>32041786
>Autists
>Not knowing what LD50 is
Pick one, idiot.
>>32041837
Bro, are you saying 12 grams is enough to kill 3.5 billion people? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU OP?
>>32046434
Well, he may be an idiot for saying supplements don't work, but before you get angry for someones stupidity in the near future, you should take a look at yourself OP.
>YOU ONLY TOOK ONE SCOOP??
Hey OP
you are going to have the worst withdrawals
>>32041295
>never saw that/heard the story
Dunno if that guy died, I haven't seen him make another thread...
>Has a stroke while squatting by bursting the blood vessel behind his eye
>Drives home with intense head-pain
>Decides to shit-post on 4chan while vision is blurring, left side of his body is numbing
>Asks /fit/ if he should go to the doctor
>Everyone realizes this dude has a stroke immediately
>20 minutes after OP's saying his left side is even more numb
>People freaking out, convincing him to call 911
>OP leaves/dies/finishes his troll job
>>32047007
He came back and say he wasn't dead
>>32046866
Hey Caladan
I think I just finished going through withdrawal a few hours ago actually
You're right, it was almost as bad as being in the hospital itself, if that's what it was
Was twitchy as fuck, babbling to myself, speaking to anyone I saw with no filter, walked around the neighborhood until my legs went numb, giggling randomly at nothing, and just a heavy overall feeling of anxiety
I didn't like it
Also something else weird happened during my withdrawal. I had this strange urge to suck my best friend off. I resisted it but it was weird - I'm pretty sure I'm not gay.
>>32046866
I always was under the impression that withdrawals came from the deficit the brain is in without the drugs as a result of the body's long term adaptation to substance abuse (lower neurotransmitter production, fewer receptors, that kind of stuff).
Would a one time megadose of a drug have that kind of effect? Obviously he's going to be pretty fucked up for a while, but chemical dependence wasn't really what came to mind.
>>32047233
>>32047303
any hallucinations or delusions? Elaborate on this experience. I probably can't help but I'm curious about your potential brain damage.
>>32047332
I was assuming that OP has been taking caffeine in decent doses for a significant amount of time, and now the fact that he can't have anymore will be doubly unpleasant because of the recent shock to the system
>>32047233
I thought they'd make you stay indoors with supervision or something
>>32047303
not me, but i thought that was funny
>>32047332
genuinely scared i might have brain damage
i don't think i can tell just by focusing and thinking about it, but i'm aware it's a high possibility
my caffeine tolerance was already pretty low in the first place
as for hallucinations, i've never had any of those types of drugs or anything so i'm not sure if what i saw in the last 8 hours were hallucinations or if i was just still fading in and out
>>32047370
this is true, on average i've had 100-400mg around 4-5 times a week for about 8 months straight prior to this
not regular in any regard, but enough to be significant i'd imagine
as for staying indoors, i just acted on impulse for awhile and one of those was to walk outside and get fresh air
>>32045326
He thought putting caffeine powder in a preworkout container was a good idea?
>>32047474
no, but my dad did
he was in the process of mixing his own brand of pre-workout or something over the weekend
How bad is caffeine for shit like your liver or kidneys?
Like twice a week I get a big coffee from 7/11 and put like 2 stok shots.
those the 2 shots are like 80mg... so I would need a whole lot of them for something similar to happen huh?
>>32047509
very little long term effect except more adenosine receptors I think
3-4 cups a day ok according to this
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17586420
>>32047509
Yeah. I take in about 500mg per day.
>>32047391
Kind of a hard question about hallucinations I guess. They're not always obvious, unless you remember or experience stuff that your brain tells you can't possibly be/have been real.
I have a buddy who got diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. He didn't realize he was having visual hallucinations because none of them were out of place or noteworthy. He just saw some extra shit that wasn't there. Perception is some weird stuff.
You seem pretty coherent so most likely if you did any noteworthy damage it will be something you can live with and/or control with the help of medical professionals. If this experience was going to make you braindead or retarded you'd already be braindead or retarded. Just focus on taking care of yourself, the usual stuff like eat enough, drink water, sleep lots. As more time passes things should normalize and get better as your brain re-adapts to it not hyper caffeine state.
>>32041462
That's not how statistics work son.
>>32047560
>If this experience was going to make you braindead or retarded you'd already be braindead or retarded
that makes sense, makes me feel better thanks
and yeah trying to eat more and keep it down despite no appetite
ate a 650 calorie chicken sandwich earlier and didn't lose it. pretty proud of myself
>>32040508
Jesus saved him, gains fade and men die, the love of God doesn't.
>>32040880
>gainzoned
>>32049054
hallowed be thy name
>>32043950
Guess he chugged it.
I chewed 400mg of caffeine pills, sucked.
No worse than 15 grams of bcaa in water.
>>32040412
>>32040412
come on man, you said it was caffeine but we all know that it was another drug with the C. It's a shame that you found out your father is a user this way, but don't worry. This is a safe zone and we don't judge here. You have to forgive him, the struggle for those persons is real and they would give up if they could.
so, which brand it was? ON micronized?
>>32049286
anon, pls.
If it was 11g of creatine they'd be scooping him off the linoleum still
>>32049304
More like scraping him off the linoleum.
>>32043128
Kek don't remind me.
>Ouchi ouchi ouchi ouchi ouchi
Holy fuck OP.
Miron cutting determination
>>32040412
>>32041295
>>32047778
Also, get tested for lyme disease if you have been out in the wilderness in the last ten years.
>>32040412
A retarded dyel housemate of mine once took a teaspoon of my caffeine powder thinking it was cut down, 4/5 proplus (50mg each) and a strong cup of coffee because he was playing cod or some shooter and wanted to be faster. Think it worked out as about 8000mg
Was obviously in a bad way, to be honest i was hoping his reaction would have been worse to teach him firstly not to steal my caffeine and secondly to read the fucking label if he's going to be that retarded
>>32047007
He was deadlifting also
>>32049406
why should he get tested for lyme disease?
>>32040412
How many cups is 11000 mg of caffeine equivalent to?
I take 200mg of caffeine before every workout 4x a week and I don't feel shit. (I don't drink coffee or any kind of teas). What's wrong with me? Insensitivity to caffeine?
>>32049502
Googled it myself.. About 100mg in one cup. So he just "drank" 100 cups of coffee. jesus
>>32049502
~324 cans of coca cola
>>32049536
if you took the strongest 80z cup of coffee you could feasibly brew, it's like 55 of those
>>32049553
meant to quote>>32049502
Other guy, you build up tolerance to caffeine after a while and 200 mg isn't much.
>>32049286
kek
>>32040412
cool
general "you gun die" dose is about what you took
I got up to 10 grams in a day but not in a single dose
what was the treatment if you know btw
How sick was the high m8? Next time higher dose right?
>>32049553
also meant 8oz, not 80
>>32049585
Jesus christ. 12-13 litres of strong black coffee. Holy shit i cant believe it
>>32040412
where do you even buy pure caffeine powder?
>>32049605
you build resistance to caffeine like insane, you can ramp up your daily dose to a couple grams in a month easy (speaking from experience)
>>32049614
powdercity.com, $11 a lb
it's dirt fucking cheap
other powder sites sell it too
time for a 5 am coffee run, how many cream/sugar? Should i take it black? OP PLS HELP SEEING AS YOU ARE EXPERT
>>32049635
>coffee
>cream
>sugar
what kind of a pussified pleb are you
drink it black
>>32040412
I once had a friend who thought he took 200mg of MDMA powder but it was 2C-B powder. Near-Death Experiences are reported from ~60mg in PiHKaL. There was no way he could die from it since the LD50 is really high, yet he died several times in the duration of 12 hours in his mind. He has PTSD now. He's been in therapy for years now.
Cheer up, you see.
>>32049674
blech, RCs are fucking gross
really rustles my jimmies when creepy assholes sell them to kids and tell them it's molly.
I know people who eat them like candy and are fine but I took some and ended up having bizarre lasting side effects that have only recently started subsiding.
>>32049703
2C-B isn't a research chemical. He was just careless aswell. He had both at home, just got the wrong one.
>>32049716
huh, I thought all the 2Cs were research chems. now I know.
was thinking about buying caffeine in powder form, but now i think ill stick to pills.
also cuz im careless as fuck and this would prolly happen to me
>>32049674
Oh shit 2c-b is some real nasty shit when you take too much of it. I've done maybe 20mg of it and that was intense and scary and not cool.. cant imagine what it would be like to take 200
On 20 it felt like somebody took my brain and put it in a blender
>>32049751
Its a cheap shitty substitute for LSD. The world would be better off without 2C shit
>>32049773
amen
>>32049773
>cheap shitty substitute for LSD
You don't have any idea. I'm not sure whether you have no idea about LSD, the 2c family or drugs in general
>>32049787
I'd say the 2Cs have pretty varied effects. You could compare the visual hallucinations of some to LSD.
>>32041472
CHARGE YOUR PHONE
>>32049787
I've never tried any of these chems, but having read PIHKAL, I'm inclined to think this dude's right, and the other is wrong. Shulgin makes clear they have very different effects, and he is basically the Godfather of Psychedelics.
>>32049787
I've tried both, so I wouldn't say i have no idea. The effects were similar, but not the same. They both made me trip balls, but i've heard 2c feels like a mix between acid and amphetamine.
On acid i just hugged the grass and was one with the earth and felt fantastic.
On 2c-b i pissed in the bathtub and missed, thought i was a troll and later thought i was a mountain. I was also freaked out as fuck
>>32049850
not kidding, the 2c-b sounds way better from that description. Did you spend the day under a bridge waiting for goats to cross?
>>32043214
>he look like Golem trying to jack off with after he snorted some coke and got his hands cut off
MY SIDES
Literally laughed when I read that
Well done Anon, well done.
>>32049856
No i took off all my clothes and stomped around the house, while my sober brother told me to get dressed. I took on a shirt and walked around with the ol' dockaroo swinging.
Also the music sounded pretty weird. Someone put on songs i knew well and had heard plenty of times, but i could not recognize them at all.
>mfw
hey OP did you get any side effects?
>>32049850
sounds like datura
>>32049796
You can, that's right.
>>32049850
I've had this discussion over and over again, it's like comparing speed to meth, there are similarities, sure, but they are not the same at all.
2C-x takes you on a trip, it's relatively consumer friendly, hits almost instantly, peaks and plateaus for not that long (3-4 hours usually) and you come down pretty quickly. You don't have an afterglow to fight. Your experiences differ a lot, depending on where you take it and what you do
>go to a club
have fun with your epilepsy
>go outside
trip balls
>stay at home
become a part of your couch, wait for the hallucinations to pass and have the best sex of your life
You can attend parties on 2Cs as much as you could on shrooms, you'll still be the obvious guy on drugs but you work
LSD doesn't take you on a trip, it takes you on a journey. Take the next day off, kiss reality goodbye and spend the next 14 hours in wonderland. How is that comparable?
Everything you see shifts before your eyes, if you close them, the CEVs will take over, there are no breaks on the LSD train, no way to take a breath. You'll be gone no matter where you are and what you do, a pitiful shadow of yourself, accepting the new reality as your own. When you survived it, you can spent the next 10 hours troubled and shaken, you still hear voices, most things scare you a little, you just want to get under the covers of your bed and hope that you can sleep
2C-x are no shitty substitutes for LSD, they are the less exhausting, more fun version of them. The "I'd like to leave reality for a little bit" take without going all in. I love LSD, but it's too stressful and demanding to take more than twice a year, LSD is not suitable for a regular use, whilst 2C (preferably 2C-B) can offer you the same fun time MDMA can, without any negative consequences. It has a perfect runtime and no bad comedown or afterglow, making it one of the best drugs.
>>32047007
>not realizing you're having stroke
this is far too common. Many of patients I dealt with in rehabilitation could have been treated if they'd have gone to doctors straight away
>wake up in middle of night to intense headache
>can't move left side of the body
>crawl into bathroom using just one half of the body
>crawl back to bed, wake up partner and ask if they should go to hospital
>don't call ambulance, just drive there
>and don't bother going to a actual hospital with facilities to handle such situations
>drive to a private practioners home to wake him up
the window which in the clot can be dissolved without leaving permanent damage is small. If in doubt and either side of the body is not functioning properly -> go to hospital.
We all make stupid mistakes sometimes OP
Glad you're not dead Bruv. I drink alot of black coffee and probably 2 - 3 cups within 3 hours before a workout if I've been at work all day and I'm tired.
This concerns me.
>>32049915
Oh snap ive mixed drugs up a bit. I actually took 25i nbom or whatever its called when i had that bad trip.
nbom are lsd are pretty similar arent they?
>>32049919
Wait, so if you have a stroke, it's better to go to a private practitioner instead of going to a hospital? Just confused since you say not to call an ambulance, instead to just drive straight to the hospital, and right after you say not to...
>>32049953
No he's describing what people normally do.
Of course call an ambulance.
>>32049953
he's saying they did all the wrong things.
>>32049930
I don't get coffin dependance like this, caffeine may push you a little in the beginning, but fucks your adenosine levels, therefore making you more tired and less productive in the end
Quit the coffee m8
>>32046648
It fucking means that half the population wouldnt be able to handle 12g of caffeine.
So if every fucking dumb cunt on the planet takes 12g of caffeine, half of those dumb fucks would die.
>>32049948
25i-nbome I think, never had it though
I only heard bad things about it, you are right, it seems to be the cheap, shitty lsd
From what I've heard, the effects are the same, but more on the bad side. I hope I never accentually buy it, some people sell them as LSD
In all these years I never had a bad experience with drugs unfortunately, the worst thing was spending 6 hours in front of my bathroom mirror.
I tried to move muscles in my face faster than that dude in the mirror, but somehow he always knew what I was up to, no matter what grimaces I made. One day I will get you, mirror man, one day
>>32040864
>yesterday a bitch dies from taking 8 DNP tablets
Really? I missed out on that because I haven't been lurking the DNP general, because my last cycle was in February. I assume it's archived?
>>32050019
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/police-investigate-diet-pills-dnp-uk-womans-death/story?id=30483145
>>32040412
Wow man. Glad you're still alive. I've had similar experiences, though mine are somewhat more deliberate. Overdosed on demerol when I was 17 or so. Took way more than the suggested recreational dose because I didn't feel anything after about an hour or two of ingesting the initial dose. Ended up falling out in an Abercrombie & Fitch while shopping with my mom. Woke up in a hospital. Scary shit. Second time was maybe even more stupid. Ordered ~500mg 2c-t-7 from a vendor. It is an extremely potent hallucinogen/stimulant/entactogen. I read on various websites that you should snort it, and that people have even died from taking it that way. But for whatever reason I felt like I was safe with the dosage I had eyeballed out. The first thing that happens is an intense burning sensation in your nose. Like someone took a blowtorch to it. And from there I was more or less in psychosis. I was talking to people on the phone while I was using the toilet, except my phone battery had died and I wasn't really talking to anyone. Before that I sent my therapist a text that was basically word salad. It made absolutely no sense. I regained lucidity a couple of hours later, though I was not entirely clear-headed because I was convinced that I was dying. And I also convinced myself that reality is a simulation and that everything and everyone was a fabrication of my consciousness. I think there is a medical term for that. Derealization I believe it is. For a couple of weeks I did not believe reality was real. Then eventually I began to come to terms that even if this were true I'm still here and I'm not dead so what's the point in freaking out about it. Fast forward 7 years and now I'm finally starting to get my shit together. But that experience left leaves lasting impressions on my psyche that will likely be with my until I die. And I have HPPD, meaning I still see colors and shifting patterns everywhere. It's not a major distraction, as you might think it would be.
>>32050048
that you should not snort it*
>>32049971
Let me tell you my routine for the last 3 days
Monday:
>Wake up at 4.45am for work
>Work 6am - 6pm
>Get home for 6.30pm
>Go boxing 7pm - 8.30pm
>Go home, shower, go to bed for 10pm
Tuesday
>Wake up at 4.45am for work
>Work 6am - 6pm
>Get home for 6.30pm
>Go to the gym for 7pm
>It's busy so it takes a while but I work chest and shoulders
>Get home for about 8.30
>Shower, bed for about 10pm
Wednesday
>Wake up at 4.45am for work
>Work 6am - 6pm
>Get home for 6.30pm
>Go to the gym for 7pm
>It's busy so it takes a while but I work Back and bicep
>Get home for about 8.30
>Shower, bed for about 10pm
Thurs
>Work all day again and then go to the cinema to see avengers 2
Friday
>Work all day and then legs
I don't get a chance to grab much sleep at night, if I don't drink coffee before working out I'm fucking dead and weak. When I'm not working I don't drink it at all.
>>32049953
its a greentext story in which all the wrong things happened
only confusing part is that I said
>gone to doctors straight away
when I should have said
>gone to hospital straight away
if there's any reason to believe you or someone is having stroke its straight to hospital. Ambulance in most cases is preferable but if you can reach hospital faster by your own vehicle or meet the ambulance half way then that can help.
>>32040695
>i put a 20-22gram scoop of whatever it was into some water and drank it
calling bullshit.
caffeine is bitter as hell, you would have struggled to get it down. A 200 mg pill busted apart in my mouth one time and the tiny bit of powder that hit my tongue made me gag and cringe
>>32040412
one scoop of hyde is about 400mgs.
you took 30 scoops worth.
holy fuck ahaha damn you dodged a bullet.
i've taken 2 scoops before and i wore the enamel off my teeth from clenching it and my muscles started cramping because i couldn't stop flexing unconsciously, specifically my quads hands and traps.
funny shit. keep me posted.
>>32050111
powering down even a lot of water without tasting is easy as hell
Just drank my coffee, I feel a pulse in my ass. Op what do?
>>32050111
I dissolve the caffeine powder in my mouth before washing it down nowadays
it doesn't even taste bitter anymore, it has a completely different taste than coffee for example
maybe I'm a freak or I just got conditioned to the taste
>>32041581
I think 'gravel' is what canadians call diphenhydramine. Sedating antihistamine; maybe in addition to benzo and beta blocker. You'd only be treating the symptoms and keeping him stable until the shit can flush through. You'd have massive adenosine receptor activation. He'd have a splitting headache later
Caffeine acts on adenos
>>32050111
>>32050172
it's possible one of you is far more sensitive to taste than the other
like maybe >>32050111 is one of them supertasters
>>32041786
In an age where learning a new term is as easy as selecting the fucking text, right clicking and clicking "Search Google for 'LD50", you'd think we'd be past the point where ignorant mongoloids like yourself have to take the time to post that they're ignorant mongoloids.
>>32050189
He means Gravol.
What's the first exercise you're going to do when you're back to the gym?
passed out, just woke up
>>32049187
>chugged it
this is accurate
>>32049286
made me laugh, thanks
>>32049388
my next plan is to lick my cat's butt until i get an intestinal tapeworm
>>32049411
was there any lasting damage? how much did he weigh?
>>32049502
>>32049547
>>32049550
i was told it was like drinking 140-150 250mL cans of red bull, not sure how accurate that is
>>32049575
all they could really do was make me as comfortable as they could and hope for the best
not much hope to go on though
>>32049578
yeah i'm going to take four scoops so i lose 28 kilo
the math checks out
>>32049614
internet, as other guy mentioned
never seen it in stores, but never looked
>>32049635
>cream and sugar
don't forget your purse friend
>>32049674
man that's really shitty
not sure if i have PTSD, i probably do
will seek therapy when/if i finally come down
i told some friends i didn't want to because i don't want someone who's being paid to listen to me, but i realize the smart move is to go anyways
still jittery and twitchy right now
>>32049753
yeah i just used 100mg pills prior to this
you seriously belong to the case report section of pubmed OP. Close call. You avoided dialysis though, so it was probably not that bad from a toxicology standpoint
Also, if I were you, I would avoid completely any form of exercise for the next week, maybe the week after. don't go full crossfit and lift tomorrow mate. You probably had subclinical rhabdomyolysis from the extremely strong muscle contraction you had, the massive DOMS you're feeling in all your body are proof of that. If you lift tomorrow and contact your muscles again, you really risk rhabdo and renal failure this time
>>32049850
just reading your posts is freaking me out
>>32049860
i guess i missed that part earlier
just laughed really hard
>>32049905
too early to tell if there's any lasting ones
i think i'm going through more withdrawal right now
>>32049919
the thought of not making it home and managing to call the hospital scares the shit out of me
>>32049930
yeah
might get a shirt that says "careless mistake"
wait a second
>>32050037
going to read that soon
opened it in another tab, and it didn't load for a bit, and then i heard the voice of the narrator and freaked out because i didn't know where it was coming from and forgot i opened the tab
coffee, not even once
>>32050048
>>32050048
hey thanks for sharing your experience, glad you're better (as far as that means)
kekked at "texted the word salad"
>>32050070
keep it up friend
>>32050111
i had mixed it in water which probably helped, then chugged it
i'm used to bitter/nasty flavours, and try to not let that shit touch my tongue on the way in
>>32050116
my jaw must have been clenched like a motherfucker
it's been days since ingestion and my jaw/teeth/gums still hurt like hell
as for dodging a bullet, i think i'd prefer being shot two times by a revolver than go through this pain again
>>32050136
rub your belly and pat your head
>>32050243
thanks, i was wondering what the hell i was taking and "gravel" made no sense
>>32050299
OHP
>>32051640
you've given me a lot to google
which will probably make me reconsider going back on monday
so for all that i thank you
i still have DOMS everywhere and my joints tickle
>go to uni chemlab
>have to isolate caffeine from some shit
>nearly covered a wall in acid but ayy I did it
>was told that I've made enough to kill anyone that took and for the love of god never consume it
Well thanks OP I've always wondered what would happen if I consumed it.
Goddamn Op, you a fucking hero.
>>32040889
>>32051841
helping others i what i do
>>32051887
the doctors asked if i tried to an hero
>>32040412
why even buy caffeine powder, when you can just drink black coffee or get it in pill form.
I passed out from doing the biggest line of mdma ever the other night and it was fucking scary yours was a shit load worse though mayn ya live and ya learn bruh
>>32050070
Damn, I thought I had it rough and I only work 8-6 but am gone from 730-830 everyday with the gym.
>>32051781
So how long in total have you been awake now? i remember sleeping really badly as a child until i started seeing eyes and imaginary butterflies.
sleep deprivation is weird
>>32053239
i can't seem to fall asleep, i just pass out
tuesday: i'll say i was awake at 11am ish, that's when i think i stopped passing out frequently
went home and passed out, i think for 5 hours
wednesday: i think i got 2-3 hours of whatever rest it is
thursday/today: another 2-3 hours
it's 11:00am now
>>32053316
well at least that means that youre not in the late stages of sleep deprivation where hallucinations happen cause you at least still remember some things, fortunatly it didnt happen to me but if you stop sleeping long enough you can pretty much forget the entirety of a day/people you met/things you did that day
>>32053361
right on
i wonder if it's safe to take something to help me sleep, but i doubt it
i really wish family/friends were around but it's been the middle of the week all week
mostly just been alone at home
>>32053512
bretty sure that caffeine plus sleeping pills will tax your system alot and wont work(unless you OD on sleeping pills). Bad idea unless you wanna become an hero. maybe get something relaxing like tea and a bath(unless you still black out)
>>32040412
marco you fuckin dingbat
>>32053606
yeah i recall mixing uppers and downers being a bad idea
>>32053657
das eet mane
been eating more, drinking some
still 97.5 kilo
since i read the thread of the guy with the deadlift, i'm afraid to lift fucking anything...like terrified ;-;
wat do, /fit/?
