So how many of you here actually did SS?
nah
bro split
>>31922283
bro split
Doing Greyskull
>>31922283
>>31922320
I'm doing my own greyskul LP routine
I wish I did SS though cause now I kinda wanna power lift
T-rex mode is real
>>31922320
Just started Greyskull
Hows it going? Do you recommend?
>>31922411
Just started too. Only a week into it. Base program for now
>>31922283
a lot of people didn't know wtf they were doing in the beginning, so yes I did SS.
What is SS?
>>31922459
I thought this meme died in 2012
>>31922283
the fat gain is real
anyway so are the gainz
wish i did it at auschwitz teir
>>31922283
Whats the problem with SS?
Its a good routine, something that may fuck you up is doing GOMAD
>>31922473
im serious, what is ss.
>>31922320
Greyskull is pretty much SS with two squat days instead of three and AMRAP sets.
>>31922532
Scooba Slob
>>31922283
I did SS
>>31922532
Starting Slut.
I did SS and it worked for me *shrug*
i wasnt a fatty to start with though so i wasnt squatting 400lbs and only benching 75
never went trex mode but then again im not retarded and didnt keep doing a program with the word "starting" in it for straight 3 years like 99% of the fucktards that badmouth it.
>tldr SS works fine and fast
>>31922603
for you
>Liftan since Feb
>Started on SL 5x5
>Realized it was far too much volume
>Switched to SS, been doing for a Month and a half
>Just dropped Pendlay Rows for Powercleans today
Pretty sure I'm not doing it right but whatever
>Added in some assistance with Hammer Curls, Preacher Curls, Pullups, Chinups, and Skullcrushers also Ab Roller and Hanging Knee Raises
>Just got my squat to 100kg today for 5/5/2
Gonna nail it next time.
>Also bought my first set of Oly shoes
Missed out on Romaleos but managed to cop some Do-Win's for cheap.
SS and .5GOMAD were the best gainz of my life
Thanks rip
>>31922536
GS is more upper body oriented. I think it's the best one for guys that only want to get joocy on the gym and never do any sport or competitive lifting.
I think both SS & GS are by far the better novices routines.
>>31922283
convict conditioning SS and starting strength when I was a newbitch. purely bodyweight work after 8 months
>>31922283
Doing starting strength right now. In week 10. I am doing the variation from the bodybuilding.com FAQ with a few accessories added in.
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHAT SS IS PLEASE
>>31922283
Did SS for half a year. Gainz are real. If you are ready to put on some fat on the way you can really, really make some mad gainz.
Switched to Greyskull about 4 months ago.
>>31922703
You serious? Great body mate. Any guide for what you did?
I did SL (and the modified version in the sticky) for like 6-8 weeks. T-rex mode is real. it's not the worst thing in the world though. I've barely had to touch my legs since then and I guess I learned how to lift. Added fly's and hammer curls, dropped the squats and deadlifts (not completely), and went to hypertrophy reps.
>>31922283
I tried. But you barely break a sweat, and you're done in 15-20 minutes TOPS. I added stuff.
I'm not going all the way to the gym for 20 min workout. I need 1 hour or else I don't feel it.
It really is for the absolute beginner with 0 gym experience.
>>31922283
essentially got trolled into doing it when all i wanted was to look good naked and not have twig arms
after about 1.5 years of SS and then advanced SS i decided enough was enough and never looked back
>>31922937
>after about 1.5 years of SS and then advanced SS
you're fucking retarded. srs.
>>31922937
>I built a strength base, then shifted to hypertrophy
You got trolled into what was best for you, you dumb dog
>>31922949
started with just the bar and made essentially linear gains all the way up until i stopped the routine
would you stop if you'd been told strong = big
I did SS for 4 months. My lifts improved a good bit, I was happy with the progress.
Then I got sick and was out for about a year.
Lost a lot of gains. I've just started Ice cream fitness this week, any done that before?
>>31922926
You want to know how I know you lift babby weights?
>>31922320
GS is S O L I D
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>>31922926
>what is a warm up
>what is resting between sets
>what is actually lifting heavy
Did SL because i was scared shitless by powercleans and because the SL app looks so much better
please forgive me Rip
>>31922926
>what is progression
I have a cripling fear of squating heavy. I always deload my last set, I know I'm retarded but I have a fear my legs will give away after the second rep.
>>31922532
Read the stickey faggot
>>31923029
Use safeties
>>31923029
So squat in a fucking rack with safety pins you fucking autist.
Fuck.
>>31923029
learn to fail reps
gotta go for those last reps if you want mad gains
>>31922998
>>31923021
>what is hypertrophy??
>>31922969
>linear gains all the way up until i stopped the routine
so you did start with the bar and added 5 lbs on squat 3 times a week like SS suggests? and you did that for 1.5 years?
lets do the math shall we.
52*1.5*3*5+45=13pl8 squat
mirin your saiyan genetics
again, you're just fucking retarded end of story
>>31923029
I started to do this on Bench Press when i started to bench my bw for reps.
I don't want to do the roll of shame and i'm too autistic for a spotter
>>31922616
>Started on SL 5x5
>Realized it was far too much volume
you'll never make it
>>31923076
Speaking of the roll of shame
Have any of you ever had to do it or seen anyone do it?
>>31922972
>ice cream fitness
Jesus, Rip looks better than Blaha and he's got 30 years on that doughy fag. What's wrong with you?
>>31923066
>"Hypertrophy" training
>not just an excuse to avoid lifting proper weights and actually exerting yourself
Take your 20 minute fuckaround elsewhere
>>31923109
I did it last week coz I'm any idiot, repped too fast at my max and lost lat tightness
was kinda red around my belly button from rolling the barbell over it but that's it. gym wasn't exactly empty, nobody even cared
>>31922909
I took routines from Never Gymless, Overcoming Gravity, with some other random gymnastics training routines. I'd do a writeup, but tbh judging by the calisthenics general getting laughed off the board, why bother
My gym has no squat rack with safeties and squats are just now starting to get hard for me. What am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to keep the "linear progression" on squats 3 times a week or is it ok to use the same weight and increase weekly? I don't really care about lower body anyway.
>>31922283
I did SL then moved onto SS once I bought the book, SL's volume is crazy for anyone past that first 6 week period, now I'm moving onto Advanced SS (for background I did a shitty brosplit with a shitty attitude for about a year max twice a week, saw mediocre chest, lat and shoulder development).
Biggest change I noticed apart from the obvious strength was my legs and arse, they got fookin juicy. My low back, chest and shoulders all saw significant improvement too, and my arms would've kept up had I been consistent with the pull ups and dips.
Also when I stopped SL I struggled to row 50kg, now I can do 1pl8 for 5 with ease and literally haven't rowed since then, clearly the Deadlift and Chins are good enough to not warrant it
>>31923131
Yeah Blaha looks like complete ass but it is a solid routine.
>>31923162
I know that lasy line is stupid though since squats train "hip drive" and probably general strength and god knows what else necessary to the program, not to mention being the yardstick for progression in the program.
>>31923140
>>31923109
What the fuck... I do a roll of shame like every bench day... Am I pushing myself too hard?
I've gotten really good at it though
>>31923066
No one ever got big arms by consistently curling a 40lb 3 times a week, same goes for every other exercise, gotta lift big to get big
>>31922283
Did it for 9 months then switched to coolcicadas and making twice the gains
>>31923076
Had to do it once, shamefur dispray, i don't want to do it again, as far as seeing other people doing it, it could have happened but i saved the a guy from it.
>Me resting between sets
>Hear a voice behind me
>"C-can i get some help"
>This guy benching 1pl8, weight is completely still, he's shaking like Japan every other day
>Weight starts to slowly go down on him
>OH SHI-
>Run to him and basically row it while thinking "if i snap my shit for this guy i'm going to kill myself"
>They guy proceeds to make excuses like i was judging him for what happened.
i'm still there.
>>31923192
I imagine I would do it more often if I trained for lower reps, but I'm a weakfag who trains for 5 reps and I can usually do the next higher weight for 3 reps or more
If you're doing 1rm I imagine it's more common to do the roll, but you might aswell get a spotter for that
>>31923067
>essentially linear
>doesn't know when i switched to advanced ss
>doesn't account for deloading
>assumes i went to the gym every week for 1.5 years
you ain't even trying son
>>31923240
I lift at home and have to squat, dead, bench and press alone.
It's pretty easy, but I'll probably hit the gym once it opens next year.
I do 3*5 and when I increase the week next week I can only really do at best like 3*3, but I try for 5 anyway and that's why I've perfected the roll of shame.
closest I ever came is squatting 3x a week
>>31923255
point is you did STARTING strength for well over a year, didn't even do it consistently and then had the fucking balls to talk shit. bet you didn't even read the fucking book. exactly the kind of idiot who fails on SS.
m8 just owe up to it, some people have to be on the bottom end of the bell curve
>>31923285
is this rippetoe I'm speaking with?
failing to see where i talked shit about it in my post. i was merely saying how i made a mistake in pursuing a strength based routine in the hopes of having an appealing body instead of a brosplit.
what's the problem here?
>>31923221
Something like this happened last year, in my gym there is an entire wall with mirrors by the dumbbells. I was resting between sets with my headphones on, and I kind of was daydreaming, until at the corner of my eye in the mirror I saw a guy benching. I could see he looked as if he was struggling on the bench with 80kg down on his chest. I didn't know if he was okay with the weight or not, but he kind of gave me a gentle nod as if to say can you help me buddy so I ran over and helped lift it off. Thing is though I was a hungry skelleton who could barely deadlift 60kg so it was a bit of an embarrassing struggle to help him
>>31922532
sucking scooby
>>31922937
>after about 1.5 years of SS
Could someone post a pdf for SS and Greyskull?
>>31923439
I did for Starting Strength last year however got banned for 3 days from /fit/ for doing so.
If you look up the torrents for them on the pirate bay it should be easy to find
What has become of Zach?
>>31922894
starting strength. could also have just looked in the sticky
>>31923498
I heard he's modeling for Klinefelters Digest
>>31923162
The only repercussion for adding weight less often is that you gain strength slower. If you're fine with that, then go ahead.
Progressing squats slower might also hinder your deadlift progression, but I don't really know; I'm just talking out my ass.
i'm on SL 5x5 but i'm also training for powerlifting, hoping to compete one day so there's that.
>>31922909
lmao that's not his body after SS, likely not him at all. But that looks achievable in 2 years or so
>>31923670
me. my routine was slightly different before, i had arm isolations, i did less squats and i've had pull ups.
>>31922926
>But you barely break a sweat
Say that again when you're actually squatting heavy weight.
>>31923727
Just crusing through, nice progress man, keep it up
>>31922283
>Wanted to look good.
>Come on /fit/
>Read the sticky.
>Make a thread asking everyone just in case.
>Everyone gives me the green light.
>Go ahead do SS.
>Get an Inguinal hernia from heavy squats.
>Get surgery
>Lose the strength I gained.
>Didn't lose any muscle mass as I didn't get any to begin with. Just got fat.
For anyone that's considering it, don't do it. Do a split and do not progressivly overload too soon as with any Strength/Power training program. Take your time, learn the movement, adapt and make a muscle-mind connection.
>>31923672
As i understood it, he did 8 months of SS and did X months of lifting afterwards. As i'm a 1 year lifter myself i know what bodies look like. I just found impressive that you can achieve a joocy look by doing cali (always wanted to try cali, never did because of that).
>>31922283
I've been doing SS for about 3 months now, and I have been seeing decent gains. I like it.
>>31923802
I have a fear of hernias from squatting, or even worse, prolapse.
Have you got back lifting again?
>>31923868
its bullshit, you won't have hernias from lifting unless you go egolift and wackform squats.
>>31922926
i started with 0 gym experience, now i lift more than any faggot in the gym, still feel weak as fuck, also i spend 45-60 min doing SS
>>31923909
>you won't have hernias from lifting unless you go egolift and wackform squats.
no
>>31923384
The best gains are attained this way
>>31922603
>shrug
>SS
c'mon
>>31923358
you did a novice strenght routine looking for a body like zyzz, thats the problem, the routine is made to last 4-6 months, you just went full retard
>>31923162
bump
pls gib some more responses
>>31922283
Started of with a bro split and will die doing a bro split
>>31922283
Never understood why people force SS on beginners so much
Back when I started bb, i always did 5x8-12 on main movements and 3x10 on accessories (shit tons of volume on ppl routine once a week)
Reached 135kg bench after 20 months, but squat strength progression was utter shit (140kg)(although legs responded extremly well to high reps - hypertrophy wise)
I didn't know shit about lifting then, yet i made better gains than 95% of people i see now post in cbt and say they did 1yr+ of strength programs
I just don't get your obsession with strength.
My thougts are that "strength" training has become a trend lately and every fucking faggot keeps saying shit like "you gotta build a decent strength base first" yet they all look dyel
Im not trying to criticize SS, i think it's a good program for STRENGTH, but I think there are better programs for a beginner who just wants to pack some muscle/look good
/rant
good night /fit/
>>31923173
Can confirm. The routine has gotten me some good gains over the past couple of months. I have no idea why Blaha looks so shit though when he preaches decent advice.
>>31925474
I don't get it either. To me it's like expecting to get bigger by pushing against an immovable wall (strength), as opposed to by doing hard fucking work (hypertrophy type training). The strengthfags will always be dyels while guys who bust their ass with higher volume will look better. Can you tell me your program?
>>31922283
I am still doing SS + accessory work. On the 4th month.
>1.4/2.3/3.7/4.3
My goal is to get to 2/3/4/5, then do Push/Pull/Legs to focus on hypertrophy. I should mention that I used to lift 6 years ago throughout high school 4 times/week. Had to break for a nightmare bachelor/master experience.
>>31925474
>20 months
>better gains than 1 yr
>>31926759
Body pic? Just curious what you look like with those stats.
For 5 months yeah...I got great strength gains but aesthetics are utter shit. Hoping Texas Method gibs better hypertrophy
Guys. There's nothing wrong with doing a strength routine with hypertrophic lifts on the side. You can still get strong and look good doing this.
>>31925803
>>31925474
Basically,
>Weak lifter = little room for growth. Benching 30kg will make you look like someone who benches 30kg or heavier if you're on a hypertrophy program. Sure, if you bulk and cut with minimal (if any) strength gains you can look fairly good by normal people standards but you'll still be limited by how much you can lift.
>Stronger lifter (background in powerlifting, eg. SS) = more weight can be moved, which means a larger response to the stress.
The way I described it sounds broscience-y, but the general idea is that someone who starts weak will be limited by that weakness, whereas someone who makes an effort to improve their strength before progressing will have more room to grow.
>>31926927
If pic is you then you need to cut, your lack of visible muscle isn't the fault of SS
>>31927013
forgot pic
>>31925474
I want to be strong so I can do cool shit that other people can't do, like jump far, run a 10.9 second 100m, one-legged box jumps, throw a loaded barbell off my chest.
>>31926884
Like a typical pale, gynotastic SSer. Some of the accessory work is for hypertrophy, but my body is nothing special. If you really want a picture, I will try to post one. However, I am doing last minutes taxes at the moment lelol
>>31922926
>he actually started with the bar
>>31922616
>buying oly shoes
>not even squatting 3pl8 as working weight
why do you guys do this, its like giving a mailman a Lamborghini
>>31922926
I'm doing SS now and I break a sweat quite often. I usually feel sore the next day as well. And I usually don't work out for more than about a half an hour. Sounds like you weren't challenging yourself and just want to do cardio
>>31927519
Post it
>people stop squatting and deadlifts to focus on hypertrophy
What? Am i reading this right?
I did for a year age 14-15. Start > Finish
50kg > 170kg x 5 Squat
50kg > 170kg x 5 Deadlift
50kg >100kg x 5 Bench Press
30kg > 100kg x 5 Bent Over Row
30kg > 55kg x 5 Overhead Press
At 80kg 5'10, 14% bodyfat. After I cut to 10% bodyfat I was 77kg. Was a swole as fuck 15 year old, that could buy alcohol without being asked for ID.
Get on my level.
>>31927945
People like fancy equipment. Joggers, cyclists, and lifters too.
>>31922921
You didn't get trex mode in 2 months fuck off. Typical body dismorphic bullshit.
Did SS for about 6 months while cutting (was 330lb fatass, now 215lbs) and switched to Candito's upper/lower split when I stalled. I have nothing but good things to say for SS; my lifts went from bar-only to:
OHP: 105lbs
Squat: 225lbs
Bench: 145lbs
Dead: 275lbs
Hi guys, any suggestions on what to do?
I'm doing basic SL, what should I incorporate into this?
PS. I'm eating heavy but im stalling on OHP, BB Row and Chest press, help please
>>31928330
Hey man, I'm >>31928330
, I could use some help/advice on how you managed to get off from bar only. I'm two weeks in and only my DLs and Squats are progressing, chest, OHP and BB row all stalled.
Thanks in advance brother
>>31928971
Eat and sleep more
>>31922703
>>31922909
I've seen this guy before. He goes by /u/UnretiredGymnast on reddit.
>>31929441https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpRfccFtpik7kpyijU9p60g/feed
His youtube account as well.
>>31928971
What is this website where you track your lifts?
I didnt do starting strength because the first day that I tried it; I could already squat 2pl8s and 2.5 pl8s for deadlift which to me suggested that I wasn't going to get newbie gains since I was already strong.
>>31923104
Why do tons of volume to be less strong? Might as well get up to 1234 on 3x5 and then 2345 on 3x5 and then switch to a hypertrophy hybrid to become joocy
>>31927945
They're just cheap ass Do-Win's nigga.
>>31922532
Sexting Sandusky
>>31922283
I'm doing SL + some accessories for arms and plan to do it for a whole year before looking at 5 day routines
>>31928971
Pull ups, Chin ups, shrugs, cardio, an ab wheel
Also, what to do after SS if one aims for aesthetic ?
TM and other program in sticky seems to aims more for strenght ?
>>31929595
strstd.com
Did ss since mid feb.
Dl : 150kg
Squat : 120kg
Bench : 95kg
Dips : 55kg
Op : 50kg
75kg bodyweight, got six pack and V, ss work if you're not retarded.
>>31922283
reg parks 5x5 > SS
>>31932306
Dips? Wat? What did your routine look like? What about power cleans and chins?
So I squat 1.5 x bodyweight and deadlift 2 x bodyweight. Lifts are stalling. My 1 rep max is 3 pl8 something on deadlifts and squats for 1 rep max is 2 pl8 25. If I do squats three times a week; I find I fail a lot of reps because the weight is too heavy.
I bench 1 rep max of 1 pl8 since SS does jack shit for upper body.
Is it time to move on to something else? I eat like a motherfucker so my collarbones are no longer visiable; I have a gut now; and I have a layer of fat all over my legs.
>>31932538
It's time to move on. According to SS you move on when you deload squats 3 times and it sounds like you should be at or near that point if you are following the program. (Stall 3 times in a row = deload 10%).
>>31932567
you mean reset. a deload is not a reset
>>31932567
Ok; so I'm strong enough for hypertrophy shit right? I can curl a 70 pound straight bar for 5 reps and dumbbell incline press 50 pounds for 5 reps.
Am I strong enough? I just want to build muscle; I dont really care about Candito sleeper strength
>>31932567
>According to SS you move on when you deload squats 3 times
This is bullshit, where is this in the SS book or in PP? SS doesn't even mention deloads.
>tfw my $300 pair of designer A.P.C. skinny jeans no longer fit me
>tfw my favorite short shorts dont fit me anymore
>tfw my old shorts ripped near my asshole
>tfw I got gay butt now and thighs touch
>tfw girls slap my ass and pinch it and comment how nice my ass are (but no mention of my upper body)
Why did I do Starting Strength? Why? I should of listened. Now I got thunder thighs, stretch marks on my thighs and shoulders and all for what 2.5 pl8 squat? I dont even care about strength.
>>31932441
There is dips for triceps, I had weight on them, I do chins up with 30kg but it had become to easy I should had weight.
I don't do powerclean I feel inconfortable with them
>>31932702
A.P.C is hardly designer mayne
Nothin to cry over
>>31932753
They use to fit so nicely over my legs.
Now I have to wear fucking stretchy pants
>>31932702
Lmao didn't balance out yours lifts dumb dumb
>>31932590
>>31932667
You're right. I got SL and SS end points confused. Either way it's time for the poster to stop SS.
>>31932605
No one ever agrees on shit like this, but I'd just switch to a decent hypertrophy program like PPL or PHAT.
Your bench is a bit weak, but your other option is going to TM or a weekly progression program if linear progression has really stopped working for a while. And it's obviously going to take a while for significant strength gains on weekly progression.
>>31932803
My bench is still going up. My lanky arms get in the way of doing some real damage on bench too.
>>31932720
Are you Italian?
>>31933027
lol
>>31922532
Six scoops
>CMON
>2015
>still believing the sticky despite the following
>SS victims look like absolute shit
>rippetoe thinks a 4000 kcal surplus is okay for skinny people
>not a single bodybuilder or fitness model uses SS or similar strength routines
the sticky really should be changed. this whole idea that a routine with so few exercising days and exercises is the best for a beginner is insane. this nihilistic bodybuilding needs to stop.
>>31934313
I just put in more 2 cardio days in between and have 2 rest days. I say it's best for beginners like me because it's not too bulky too look at and it's very simple to pick up and keep on doing it until further success.
>>31923162
Learn how to fail safely from high bar position then you will be fine outside of the rack.
>>31933027
No, I'm french, why ?
>>31932667
It's on the wiki
>>31934313
>professional body builders and athletes don't use a beginning strength routine
Color me shocked
>>31934313
I think the Sticky should have ICF5x5 and Greyskull LP added in for people interested in more upper body development.
>start doing SS
>uni gets really busy
>stop bulking, lose gains
>rinse and repeat
Anyone else know this feel? I started SS over a year ago, but in total I've probably only done it about six months.
>>31922283
I still do it
Its been 4 years
>>31936353
>iktf bro
>>31922283
Currently on week 21 of SL.
>>31932702
>2.5 pl8 squat
lmao your legs can't be that big m80
>>31922532
Schutzstaffel
>>31922283
Doing SL (pretty much finishing it), getting lots of gains, sue me.
Next step Madcow, then Candito's 6 week.
>>31926759
How's the weight progress going?
(assuming those aren't estats)
