For as long as humans have been around, men have been at the top of the social ladder, until somewhere around when your parents were born. Now you are part of the first generation raised by men and women as equals. Can you feel this change, compared to how older generations of men act?
Do you ever feel like a part of what makes you a man is either gone or has changed?
To quote Pahlahniuk, "we are a generation of men raised by women." Do you agree?
Who do you think raised you more, your mother or father?
Yesterday was national women's day, whatever that means. It goes without saying that there will never be a national men's day. You will never be able to openly be proud of what men accomplished without sounding like an arrogant asshole due to the fact that anything men accomplished, it can be explained away by the fact that women could have done it if they were given as much power as men. There's not a whole lot to be proud of anymore.
I just feel like I don't have too much of an identity, as a white male. I'm told that life should be on easy mode for me, but it sure as hell doesn't feel that way. Because I've always been told that I'm in a position of power, yet have nothing to show for it, it pushed me to start lifting.
The one thing that I have as a man that can't be taken from me (unless I get injured or sick) is my physical strength. I feel this is pretty petty though. I definitely enjoy the feeling of working out and the self confidence that comes from it, but when I really think about manhood,which sounds stupid I know, but I really have mixed feelings. Anyone else feel this way?
bump with a bit of misc advice I liked
maybe one more bump with the most disgusting probably true story I've read on /fit/
Western society has been at relative peace since the end of WWII. This has allowed gender roles to slide closer together. When shit gets fucked it will slide back to the old ways.
Also art of manliness has a series of articles on what is manliness. Decent reads.
>>31332284
I don't think shit will get fucked in a way similar to WWII again. The threat of nukes, increasing secularism of culture, and increasing world trade seems that the world is heading for a time of unparalleled peace. I don't think that this combining of gender roles is a bad thing, but it definitely has washed away a bit of my idea of who I am as a person. I'll definitely check out that site. Thanks.
>>31332227
There isn't a mens day because that day is celebrated by you 364 days a year.
You don't have to strut around and talk about mens accomplishments. Every aspect of society is founded on mens accomplishments, from medicine to technology, although some women have built upon these foundations to make something useful too.
>>31332364
now that's what i call shitposting
Theredpill
>durr fedora tipping butthurt males
Yeah whatever just read it.
>>31332227
This is the shittiest shitpost I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot.
>>31332284
By that you mean men and women going from "Equal" to "Okay WW3 has started, let's send all the men to Iraq now."?
>>31332381
You forgot your
>meem
>arrows
>>31332364
yeah, that's what I mean. There's no day to talk about what it means to be a man. Anyone who tries to seriously talk about issues pertaining to men gets laughed at. Just like you trivialized the lack of a day focusing on men by saying we get the other 364. Because we don't. We get nothing.
>>31332387
OP here, this isn't redpill. redpill is misogynistic and for those guys who can't figure out why girls like assholes. I'm talking about why men can't talk about what it means to be a man in a world that's erasing gender lines.
Lmao America what is happening with you?
>>31332387
>Most hated sub of all time.
Checks out
>>31332342
I dunno man, nukes and trade will stop other nations from attacking each other, but I internal conflicts will cause things to get fucked up again.
With all this social justice shit people are getting more and more diametrically opposed. I think we'll see in increase in domestic terrorism instead of foreign threats
>>31332432
oops, thanks m8
<font color="#ff0ff0f">&rt;shitposting</font>
>>31332442
Because to talk about what it means to be a "man" reinforces gender roles and patriarchy.
There is no way you can give any manly advice in public forum without coming off as a misogynist to all the SJWs.
The end is near my friends.
>>31332442
>I'm talking about why men can't talk about what it means to be a man in a world that's erasing gender lines
You can do that right here, but you have chosen to use your soapbox to complain about a lack of a soapbox.
>>31332227
>part of the first generation raised by men and women as equals
>>31332387
> sub is full of /pol/tards who jerk each other off about how great they are because they're men and how superior they are to men
might as well go to r9k
>>31332442
Do you know anybody who takes woman's day seriously?
Do you buy "check your privilege" badges and wear them around, or do you go about shit as normal? It might seem like it's a big deal, if you turn on TV to a talk show, and the female host will try shove it down your neck, but in reality, the only people that celebrate retarded public awareness days are equally retarded hippies or fat dykes.
>>31332487
I did ask a lot of actual questions in the OP. All of them were ignored so far. Do you think you lift because it gives you some sort of identity as a man? Do you think you're raised by your mom or dad more? What does it mean to be a man in 2015? answer any of these if you'd like.
>>31332525
It was generally unavoidable for a week in the media.
>>31332442
I agree on the surface level trp comes off as misogynistic BUT this is only because their front page is riddled with young angry butthurt males. There are real discussions regarding masculinity after you shift through the bullshit.
Just like how fit is just a bunch of shitheads but if you stick around there is real advice
>>31332471
I sort of agree, unfortunately.
>>31332450
no one even mentioned america
>>31332525
You're also true, and now that you mention it, I definitely regret spreading awareness of women's day. It shouldn't exist.
I was gonna make a copypasta and alter men to nobility and women to peasant, but it just ain't worth it, you whining arkanine frog.
If you really are threatened in your masculinity because the world around you is going mad, you should probably stay in the basement.
Russian masterrace here u jelly of our men's day?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_of_the_Fatherland_Day
>>31332557
>no one even mentioned america
You did because you Americans will cry over everything in your shitstain country with niggers and feminists.
>>31332227
The only thing you have is your life. And when they have taken everything from you, you can give up that last one yourself. Hopefully in a hail of bullets and screaming.
>>31332546
that might be true, but that doesn't mean that I'd ever go to trp to discuss those issues, just as I wouldn't go to a nazi youth camp to learn how to get a slick undercut. There are better places than that.
>>31332585
I'm not from america you massive fucking faggot, why don't you try again?
>>31332582
That's for both men and women, it even says so in the article.Jesus fucking christ man.
>>31332612
>I'm not from america you massive fucking faggot, why don't you try again?
Yes i absolutely belive you Americuck.
While you're crying over that shit, Tyrone from the ghetto is already busting nuts in your highschool sweetheart.
You have to be a pretty insecure little bitchboi to feel threatened by women (see: the betamaxs who whine on theredpill or r9k). Women gaining equality means more competition for jobs, resources, and social prestige. You know who has historically thrived on competition? Successful men. You know who still who still thrives on competition? Successful men (and now women). The bitchbois who had life on easy mode just cuz they were men in the past are feeling rightfully threatened cuz now they actually have to justify and prove themselves if they are to have a foothold in society. Naturally, instead of buckling down to work hard and make themselves fierce competitors, (which the successful guys are doing) they bitch on the internet about muh child custody and muh sexual discrimination at the club.
>>31332227
>Do you ever feel like a part of what makes you a man is either gone or has changed?
more like it was never there to begin with
>>31332227
Why do you care about other people's accomplishments, anon?
>>31332684
A good argument except that the sjws are tipping the scales against men.
>>31332612
"Consequently, in colloquial usage, the holiday is often referred to as Men's Day"
aaay lmao
>>31332442
>redpill is misogynistic
>>31332227
Holy shit thats one cringeworthy post OP.
Man and woman are not some kind of opponents they are a team. Also taking pride from your "superiority" over a fucking woman doesnt sound manly at all. Overall you sound like a betamax who doesnt know much about manhood.
>>31332754
>Man and woman are not some kind of opponents they are a team.
yeah, you're a beta
>>31332471
>Caring what they think
I'm being deadly serious. Most people - and especially most women - want to follow. Very, very few women have the balls to stand up to men when things get aggressive, it's just you've had this stuff ironed out of you so you think it's 'wrong' to disagree and assert your authority over women. When I tell women dead straight what I think about them or what they're saying they submit virtually every time. If they don't they usually resort to shaming tactics:
>you probably never get laid
>No gf
>insecure
Because that's all they've got. And then I will simply reply 'yeah that doesn't work on me' because they then lose all their power.
Obviously now the /fit/ crab bucket squad will come out as well. The parallels are obvious:
>H-haha le t-tips f-fedora
>autism!
Fuck off pussies. People like the ones that say the above are why the justice system and several other key areas of society Fuck men over. Yes I'm mad. Nothing I personally hate more than political correctness
>>31332754
>men and women are a team
>feminism tirelessly creates divisiveness and attacks men
nice try
Also the way people are acting itt just serves to prove OP's point which is that any talk of masculinity or being a man is immiediatly attacked as mysoginistic.
good thing I'm not a beta so I don't give a shit waht people think.
>>31332769
>>31332789
based as FUCK
>>31332789
hope you realize feminazis are insignificant minority.
>>31332769
Just to point out I don't go around trying to make women bow down, I just never give in to them
>>31332763
yeah go fight the evil succubi mr. manly man lol
My dad was/is a mysoginistc beta. I had no real role models but I've been reading a lot about great men and I'm starting to get the grasp of what it means to be a man.
Of course it has nothing to do with mysoginy or women at all, but self absorved feminists will always act like being a man is somehow about how you treat women.
It's about confidence, assertiveness, responsibility adventure and strength.
>>31332855
You THINK you're a team but as soon as she finds an alpha male she can switch to (which will inevitably happen since you're a beta) she'll bail on you almost immediately.
>>31332735
How? In what way? Because there is a calendar day for women and not men? Actually, it doesn't matter. The sjws are are your Freddy krueger. They only affect your life and seem like such a threat cuz you sit all day on 4Chan and tumblrinaction reading about them. Just stop reading about them and focus on yourself. I bet if I asked some of my buddies who are big consultants or about to graduate from law school if they thought their success as men was being threatened because of "sjws" they would look at me like I'm crazy.
Same with successful women.. You think Chreryl Sandberg became a billionaire because she browsed tumblr and obsessed about to what extent women were disadvantaged in corporate world still? No, she did what she needed to be successful and that's why sjws hate her too.
Don't worry about some cosmic sliding scale of equality or privilege. While you, /pol/, and tumblr are obessing over it people are getting rich
>>31332892
im married and have children kiddo
>>31332909
>he thinks a ring on her finger prevents her from fucking other dudes
You really are delusional.
>>31332820
>insignificant minority
>hear more and more of their shit every day
>see more and more cases of men getting the axe at work over feminazi bullshit
>le equal society :^) glorifies women hitting men
>feminism still on the rise
delusional is what you are, or maybe a feminist.
>feminism is about equality
no it fucking ain't. I actually bothered to read about it and it covers a whole range of topics including destroying the idea of masculinity.
>>31332921
I think i know a bit about women
>>31332227
>>31332227
>For as long as humans have been around
Read more history.
Look at more indigenous groups.
>>31332939
So does every guy who gets cheated on and financially raped during the divorce.
>>31332961
Those are bitches, not real women
>>31332994
And every guy also thinks their woman is somehow different than the rest.
>>31332939
Because 'women' are one person?
>>31332994
>no true scotsman fallacy
every fucking feminist I've ever met does this shit.
>>31332364
/thread. men's rights activists are ducking stupid
>>31333039
Is your wife gonna beat you up if you don't say that?
>>31332954
This. /thread.
>>31333054
Is your penis going to shrink if you don't act like that?
>>31332227
>Do you ever feel like a part of what makes you a man is either gone or has changed?
No. I was raised with the values of respect and love your family, build yourself but ask for help when needed, and my parents are a very tough couple, both my mom and dad.
>To quote Pahlahniuk, "we are a generation of men raised by women." Do you agree?
Partially, I see a lot of limp-wristed caricatures of men and disgusting sissies, but I don't hang around them. I spend my time with healthy, normal and outgoing people. I see no need to waste my time with those people or to let them drag me down.
>Who do you think raised you more, your mother or father?
Both, in equal measures.
>Anyone else feel this way?
No. You just have to work hard to get what you want; it's in equal measure taking what you want and working to be the kind of person to be given what you want.
>>31333003
I'm not who you were arguing with but my wife is different from the rest. She has a career that is much more successful than myself and I live in a state that divs assets 50/50 upon divorce. I love pondering what my life would be with that nice alimony check and no blabbering in my ear constantly. Find yourself a nice career woman lads. They are the future.
>>31332364
>celebrated
>greatly admired; renowned.
'men' as a group are not celebrated every day, the closest we get to this is Father's Day.
>>31332227
>Can you feel this change, compared to how older generations of men act?
Yes, when I was raised by an older generation I was much more masculine. Now that I've been raised by a younger generation, I'm a sissy cuck that donates half my income to rebuilding the Temple.
>>31333074
>accusing your opponent of having a small dick
>>feminist.com
>>31332227
Pahlahniuk was talking about single-mothers, women in education and child-care, not gender equality.
>>31332264
>>31332264
>>31333102
I didn't accuse anyone of anything, I just asked a simple question.
Are you going to lose your manhood card if you don't act and think like a retarded monkey?
>>31333130
You're deffo an angry woman or
>le proud feminist man :^)
>>31332994
>le NAWALT fallacy ;^)
>>31333149
I am a proud feminist man. Come at me, bro.
>>31333160
What the fuck is left for 'feminists' to achieve?
>>31333160
I would but I really think you should finish cleaning the house before your wife gets back from her gang bang with Chad, Jammal and Tyrone.
to all the retards who can't do a simple Google search, nations mens day is November 19th
>>31333182
equality
>>31333160
>>31333198
Your wife is going to end up banging with Chad, Jammal and Tyrone if you threat her like crap.
What a bunch of delusional faggots. Thank god I don't live un Murrica.
>>31332227
I still want to strive and be more manlier. I don't want to date or marry since that's fucking financial suicide. I just want to lift, travel by myself, watch anime/read manga or whatever. But I feel like I can't picture my "ideal" self after I make it.
I thought going to the gym everyday is a start, but I'm just slacking off. what do I do, /fit/? How do I stop being lethargic and lazy?
>>31333214
>>31333234
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality
Feel like being anymore specific?
>>31333234
>>31333214
retards
>>31333228
>implying I'm married.
>Implying le proud feminist wifey doesn't see you as a tool
You're nothing more than a dickless beta provider too her. The Idea that feminist want equality is bullshit, they want control, they want to reduce all me to what you are - a submissive, cowardly, soft creature who works tirelessly to provide for women while she's off fucking guys like me.
>>31333243
Great argument.
>>31333242
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality
>>31333260
I'd like to see a great argument from you dumb feminist fucks
>>31333257
No, my gf is not a bitch dreaming of getting married, have children and live at my expense.
We're both 29, have a great relationship and, agan, thank god I don't live in your shitty country.
>>31333214
>>31333234
I don't want to be equal to any of you. Recognizing the differences and bettering it is true "equality". I might as well be a Storm Trooper if your desire is everyone to be equal
>>31333271
>all this denial
There is a national men's day you stupid faggot. kill yourself
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=national+mens+day&oq=national+mens+day
>>31333268
So no measureable objectives?
>>31333076
Those are pretty shitty values.
Take advantage or get taken advantage off is the most important lesson imo. Prioritize money above all, since you can buy everything with money. People to suck your cock, big houses, friends, people to do stuff for you. The extent of this increases when you go to countries were money is very scarce (and so are their basic necessities to keep them alive). These people will do a lot for money. You can get anything you want out of people with money.
Money >>>> all. Therefore studying and wondering about the world are more important than all that crap because by doing that you get more insight and knowledge about how to make more money and improve your life. If you don't want to feel sad just don't think of the past ever and keep living in the moment and future.
Most 'normal' people are deadbeat losers once they're 30 with a shit job and a boring life filled with meaningless contacts and 'friends'. You don't need to work hard to get what you want you have to work smart and take advantage of the tools you've been given.
>>31333257
What is wrong with being a provider? Men have always been providers since women are too weak and dumb to get a real good job.
>>31333271
I spoke to a beta like you once and he told me the most devastating thing a woman ever said to him was that some men are meant to make children and others to raise them.
You're in the raise category, that's all you are too her, you're delusional if you think she gives a dam about you, she's just playing you.
>this entire thread
>>31333309
nothing worng with being a proveder but the proud feminist male I was talking too is only a tool, a stream of revenue to his feminist gf.
There's a difference between being a provider and being someone's cash cow.
>>31332227
>Do you ever feel like a part of what makes you a man is either gone or has changed?
No, I define my own masculinity based on traditional values.
>To quote Pahlahniuk, "we are a generation of men raised by women." Do you agree?
I don't agree completely.
>Who do you think raised you more, your mother or father?
Neither. During my childhood my mother worked too much and my dad was on meth, during my adolescence my mother wasn't in the picture and my father while not a methhead any longer was an irresponsible manchild. I raised myself.
>Anyone else feel this way?
For a brief time. I dropped out of school, with no education and no parental guidance I was lost for the most part. I met a nice girl and we went through some terrible things together. I stuck with her and she stuck with me.
I am a married man now, with a son, with responsibility. I teach myself trade skills. I've taught myself how to build and repair electronics, my home, my vehicles. I act with honor and selflessness. I became the man I always wanted to be. I still have my faults, but I always work on them to become stronger.
Anyone can do it, they just have to want to.
>>31333310
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAh
>>31333348
>based on traditional values
Not masculine at all, beta as fuck
>>31333300
So work hard/smart to get the money. I don't see your point.
Too many people use wrokign smart as an exuse to chill and miss the fact that the opportunities must be grabben and taken advantage of to capitalize on them. That is what I mean with this. You deserve nothing, but you can take advantage of every opportunity presented if you put the effor tin.
>>31333370
Says the child trying to troll on an anonymous image board.
>>31333214
Women are functionally equal in the eyes of the law, if anything they have more rights.
If a woman can't make level footing with a man with that kind of backing then fuck her.
>>31333363
umad? you seem mad?
Maybe I'll come over to your house and bang your gf in front of you, remember it's sexist to control women so be a good beta feminist and watch as I pleasure her like you never could.
If you beg nicely she might let you lick her ass clean of my cum. Remember not too enjoy it thought because that would be sexist you silly femboy
working in east asia, qt 3.14 gf trying to articulate to me in her plain english, how she enjoys following behind the lead of a man, instead of trying to hold the same role, she called it, "mannism"
kek
asia knows not the pollution of feminism
feels manly man.
>>31332227
I'mma tell you a secret, anon. All of the celebrity men you see hopping on the feminism bandwagon? They all respect women, yes, but not one of them puts up with any shit from a woman. You think George Clooney was bowing down to all of his girlfriends whims before he got married? Hell no. If any of them tried to pull some shit with him, he'd just go find a new girl.
That's what a lot of you guys complaining about feminism aren't seeing. The most prominent male feminists in the media don't have to bow down to women's every command because finding a new girl is cake. For guys like you and me it's harder because we don't have women chomping at the bit to jump our nuts, but in principle it's the same: respect women in the sense that you don't give them shit just because they have a vagina, but don't be putting up with any bullshit that comes your way. For example, if you made plans to go see a movie and she's late, just go without her. If she couldn't make it then she shouldn't have agreed to the plans. No need to put your life on hold for her convenience.
In that sense, manhood hasn't really changed. Women still respond to independent, assertive, confident men. And those men do not put up with silly little bullshit like that.
>>31332227
There is a national mens day you dickhead.
>>31333054
Nah she'd probably fuck me for standing up for her rights. Sorry you have to put others down so you can feel good about yourself.
>>31333536
>she'd probabbly fuck me for standing up for her rights
femboys are this delusional.
>>31333536
>she'd probabbly fuck me for standing up for her rights
>>31333536
white knighting this hard
I'm sure she'll reward you with sex boy
>>31333536
>his girlfriend uses sex as a reward for acting the way she wants him too.
This ain't no regular beta.
This....this brehs is the fabled...BETAMAX
>>31333536
This isn't real.
I refuse to believe this post is in earnest.
>>31333536
I can't believe some men are this deluded
>>31333536
> she'd probably fuck me for standing up for her rights
No homo right?
>>31333536
>>31332937
fucking americans I cant stand you, where I live women get constantly killed and raped, we fucking need feminism, next one could be your fucking mom.
i dont give a shit about feminazis because they dont represent feminism, as in isis dont represent islam or ku klux klan dont represent christians. fuck you.
>>31333580
Holy shit they are laughing like demons.
>>31333682
>we fucking need feminism
no you don't lol, what's wrong with a lil raping?
>>31333682
Nah, what you need is a higher quality of life, transparency and jobs, none of which are the result of feminism.
>>31333693
Funny, thats what I told to your sister
>>31332227
I think his is good and relevant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmjKNGsQG7g&index=23&list=PL22J3VaeABQDYQf5iQlKYXQlFebURZjVk
>>31333711
First world citizens, you disgust me, cant see outside your bubble.
>>31333729
And you can't see outside yours.
What's your point?
>>31332227
Russians and Ukranians have 23rd february as men's day. No wonder ya'll a bunch of faggots.
>>31332769
>>31332227
>For as long as humans... men have been at the top of the social ladder... Can you feel this change, compared to how older generations of men act?
For me, growing up in an extremely xtian household, yes, but it isn't gender roles. It has to do with me giving fewer fucks about what other people are doing (i.e. lgbt, sjw, etc.).
>Do you ever feel like a part of what makes you a man is either gone or has changed?
No. "Being a man" is something that has changed considerably over the generations.
>To quote Pahlahniuk...
I think this refers to an increasing number of people being raised by single mothers because their dads ended up just being sperm donors. I had both parents in my life.
>Who do you think raised you more, your mother or father?
Mon-Fri - my mother. My father worked 8+ hrs, commuted for 3 hrs... for 40+ years. By the time he got home and ate he usually just wanted to relax.
Sat & Sun - we got the entire weekend with him. If we were involved in a sport, he usually got involved in coaching.
>Yesterday was national women's day... You will never be able to openly be proud of....
Be proud of who you are. If you're not, stop making excuses and start making changes. The character traits that make a good man also make up a good woman.
>I just feel like I don't have too much of an identity, as a white male...
Life isn't easy. Those people are using WASPs as their scapegoat for why they're not doing shit with their life. Now you're trying to do the same with women.
>The one thing that I have as a man that can't be taken from me (unless I get injured or sick) is my physical strength...
No. Brains > bronze. For most of us our body will fail before our brains will. Still, take care of both. I lift to make my body match what I feel is on the inside, not to compensate for it.
Feeling sorry for yourself is okay--for a moment. But it isn't doing shit for you so you might as well drop it and move on. Man/Woman/Human the fuck up.
>>31333682
>ISIS don't represent islam
Yes it does. They're doing exactly what Muhammad did when he was alive, namely killing Jews and Christians and conquering land.
It's actually the 'moderate muslims' that the media loves that don't represent islam
>>31333741
Just because in your coutry fitties call feminism because men dont like them doesnt mean the movement needs to be disregarded, the sister of a friend went missing a few weeks ago where I live, and theres a rapist that have killed 20 woman just this year, this, however dont happen to the male population which im glad, but it sucks when you see a bro crying because he knows what probably happened to his sister... And this crimes are not related to drugs or money, its just the lust from men that see woman as something they can take and do whatever they want to them, that girl was gorgeous... Makes me wanna puke everytime I think shes missing...
Heres some article for reference http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/07/us-mexico-violence-women-idUSBREA2608F20140307
and here she is singing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpZQfYZTgJE
maybe you dont understand my point because you havent lived something like this first hand.
>>31333806
damn it, I meant "Just because in your coutry FATTIES call"
>>31333536
>>31333814
*country
jesus christ
>>31333806
That seems more like a general problem with your shit country. No proper police, corrupt as shit, high crime and youth crime, high social disruption, not a welfare state I guess? Feminism won't fix issues like that.
Also, we've been egalitarian for fucking ever. Women participated in our wars as well as they could. It's in our culture, so it's less of a big deal. Even most women laugh at people calling themselves feminists.
>>31333806
Mexico is a failed state. This has nothing to do with feminism. Did this shit happen a lot before NAFTA?
>>31333848
No, violence and poverty actually been scalating since NAFTA
>>31333846
Explain to me then why this dont happen to the male population in Mexico.
>>31333869
Because most males are stronger, better suited for violence and aren't homosexual is my guess.
>>31333741
>being this white
why dont you go listen to macklemore
>>31333888
Da man keepin you down brotha?
how can you realistically be so fucking beta you feel you have "no identity" or "no voice" as a white man
>>31333885
But the inverse of women raped and killed by men would be men raped and killed by women, not by men.
>>31333899
what a epic win, friend!
>>31333926
And that does not change the facts I mentioned above.
Move away from Mexico.
>>31332227
You're an Americuck, afraid to voice your opinions because the worst outcome for you is hurting someone's feeeeelings and being socially ostracised. I'm English, I have both an identity and a superiority complex, if I meet an SJW I'll gladly debate with them and debunk their uneducated idealism. Being a real man isn't about having things handed to you, it's about taking what you want through sheer will and determination; all the while being unafraid to stand out from the norm. Essentially, OP, you need to man up and influence others to do the same.
>>31333869
>No, violence and poverty actually been scalating since NAFTA
As far as I can tell, feminism has been winning in the last few decades.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism_in_Mexico#1990_and_beyond
Moreover, NAFTA and other measures of economic warfare Mexico has suffered have been perpetrated by USA and to a lesser extent by Canada. Both of those countries are far more feminist than Mexico.
So I don't think the stuff you are talking about has anything to do with feminism, nor do I see how feminists would help the issue.
I think this is getting far too heated. Does the second and third world need feminism?
>yes.
Does the first world?
>fuck no.
Just remember to stop at second wave feminism over there mr.fuckedupistan
>Both of those countries are far more feminist than Mexico.
>So I don't think the stuff you are talking about has anything to do with feminism
So you say feminist have nothing to do with it, but you mention it, ok.
I dont see why you guys have a problem with me wanting men to stop seeing woman as a piece of meat, and not as an actual person with family and a life.
Whats wrong with that view? My problem here is the violence thats specifically directed to woman in some countries, not only in mine, this crimens are specifically gender related, call it feminism, equality, education, the point is teaching men and women basically what this anons said.
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>>31333090
regardless of the gender we are people, we should have our own dreams, we should live our own lives and not be constantly afraid that something horrible might happen to you because you happen to be born a male or a female.
that has nothing to do with loosing feminity or manlyness (I dont know if this words are correct) it has to do with people not being targeted.
