What is the strongest animal a fit and powerful human can kill in a fight to the death without any refined weapons?
Gorilla got mad scrapping skills
>not wrestling a bull
Any, just gouge their eyes out with your thumbs.
Only thing that could beat us is a gorilla
>>27834747
You could probably take down a cheetah. They are fast, but they are built to take down baby gazelles, not big game.
Their mouths are too small to do a ton of damage to you, and their bones are very light, meaning you could probably stomp him good.
>>27834747
depends on what you call a refined weapon, where do you draw the line
a crafted spear from a stick and flint or a manufactured carbon fibre xbow?
>>27834844
>Only thing that could beat us is a gorilla
You meant that the gorilla is the only we could not beat, right? Because even a chimp could easily kill you.
>>27834857
Also you can kill a wolf if you're willing to rip up your hand by shoving your fist down its throat.
They don't have a biological method for getting something out of their throat (prey are usually running AWAY from them, after all) so you can choke it to death.
Motherfucking Mas Ayama used to punch Fucking bulls to death.
I think that's how you spell his name.
>>27834860
That's refined.
An unrefined weapon is anything you find on the ground. Dirt, a stick, a rock etc
>>27834876
Damn. Mas oyama. My bad bros.
You're not gonna be able to kill a fucking jaguar with a stick.
A big-cat is 10x faster than a human. It will claw you up so fast you won't be able to dodge, and you'll just end up bleeding to death.
Now 3 men with sharp sticks... they could probably kill a jaguar if they were serious.
There was one guy who fought a grizzly or something. I think his last name was Peterson?
Bit on windpipe until it passed out, caved in its face with a rock.
In a straight wrestling match you're fucked, humans win by being smart assholes
>>27834868
Wouldn't it just tear my arm off? Genuinely curious.
Prob a dog
>>27834914
Needs more time
A human body is stronger then you think mad endurance
>>27834864
>implying Brock Lesnar couldn't defeat at least 10 chimps
A chimp. They have no footwork and are short. Would be easy to kick its head in.
>>27834747
it has been documented that 3 men have killed grizzly bears with no modern weaponry.
Rostam of Persia killed and elephant with his mace, google it up
A guy the size of brock lesnar could most likely kill a jaguar. Of course he would need to go to the hospital afterwards.
You can outsmart anything
Endurance hunting
Trapping
Scaring off a mountain
Poisoning
Manipulating
>>27834963
getaloadofthisguy.jpg
>>27834956
He would be raped by only one.
>>27835027
I'm sorry but not everyone is a scrawny pencil necked dweeb that would lose a pocket chihuahua.
>>27834747
A bear
https://huckberry.com/journal/posts/man-kills-grizzly-with-hands-and-teeth
>>27834827
Lol
>>27834844
Would it be easier or more difficult to gauge out a wolfs eyes than a humans?
>>27834857
Cheetah runs at however many miles per hour, pounces on you from great distance, scrapes your back as youre trying to run away from instinct, or cuts your leg. you fall to the ground then it just keep charging at you till you die from bloodloss. How are you going to "stomp" an animal with fangs, claws, agility, and speed?
>>27834860
A stick is all you need to fend off a cheetah or Hyena
>>27834868
wolf goes for the legs, good luck getting your fist in its throat without it first backing off, or biting your hand so hard you cant move it.
Humans are not really that strong, we have thin flesh, bad reflexes, and no sharp claws or fangs. plus our body is upright, so it will intimidate the animal, so in most cases you can scare a larger animal off, but once we are on their level we are dead. we cant even run away, legs are incredibly slow on an average human
>>27834956
a chimp is stronger than anyone in this thread. And i'm not talking pound for pound either.
>>27835038
>>27834963
Forgot pic.
>>27834963
You guys underestimate chimps.
Primates the size of a chimp and up probably would wreck the average human no problem in a fight.
Bears, large predatory cats (lions, tigers) would be really hard to win against considering the arsenal that they posses (insane biting power, claws that specialize in tearing flesh.)
Canines like wolves probably wouldn't be as dangerous, the human just needs some skilled and strong hands to grab the canine in the right place and break its neck or something.
I could knock out a Kodiak with a good punch on his nose.
>people think they can beat chimps
pls be troll
>>27835087
>eyy mang you wanna build sum mussel?
Correct me if Im wrong, don't primates automatically rip your junk off if you encounter them with hostility?
>>27835070
Cheetahs weigh like 90 pounds bro. If it rammed itself into a big guy it would end up hurting itself. Plus they gas after like 1 minute of activity and need like an hour to recuperate. Humans have some of the best endurance of the animal kingdom. Even untrained people.
>>27835127
>everyone is weak and frail like me.
They aren't that powerful. I saw a documentary where the big alpha male was throwing a tantrum as a display of power to the group and it could barely lift some rocks off the ground.
>>27835154
I've read a lot of stupid shit on 4chan, and this is like the sixth stupidest thing I've ever read.
>>27835202
Not him but watch this video about endurance hunting
>human master race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o
>>27835154
>>27835195
"A chimpanzee had, pound for pound, as much as twice the strength of a human when it came to pulling weights. The apes beat us in leg strength, too, despite our reliance on our legs for locomotion. A 2006 study found that bonobos can jump one-third higher than top-level human athletes, and bonobo legs generate as much force as humans nearly two times heavier."
>>27835202
Everything I said is true genius.
Try learning physics and some animal biology. And then sit down child.
>>27835241
Learn what pound for pound means.
Sure an ant is pound for pound stronger than a human, by I can still stomp it like an insignificant insect.
>>27835087
'CHIMPS' is literally a meme. everyone knows they have superpowers and could kill 304 men in combat and did 9/11, don't worry
A spider monkey would give a manlet a run for their money. Any big cat, gorilla, chimp, hippo, even a boar would fuck a grown man up
this is the solution to every problem regarding bigger animals
>>27834864
>even a chimp could easily kill you.
This is actually true. Chimp muscles have an insane amount of torque. They could turn your shit inside out.
>>27835283
The male common chimp stands up to 1.7 m (5.6 ft) high and weighs as much as 70 kg (150 lb).
You think you're so smart...Even a manlet chimp is way stronger than you, silly.
>>27835236
that's actually pretty amazing. this is almost more eye opening than FPS thread... the fact that some many of us are gluttons when as a species we're capable of doing these sorts of things
Not the strongest but the toughest animal we could beat is a honey badger as long as you don't fuck up.
>>27835154
a male cheetah can weigh up to 72kg
and goes at a speed of 18.055 m/s
This means it has an impact force of 1300 N
Usain bolt weighs 94kg and runs at a speed of 7.777m/s. A force of 731 N.
Just by running into you, the cheetah can give you internal hemorraghing and a legendary concussion. At the very least you will not be standing up after that. now add 4 claws at least 4 inches long on each paw sinking into you chest and crotch/quads to a force greater than an nfl linebacker and youll stand no chance.
Also, a humans endurance is useless unless we are slowly chasing animals.
>>27835057
a chimp would fuck you up
>>27834868
What about shoving an arm up its ass?
>>27835438
you just summoned the legions of fat neckbeards who will fight with you to the last drop about endurance hunting even tho they themselves can't run to the fridge even if their life depends on it.
>>27835057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtucwBlNr3A
skip to middle of video and watch
>Implying you could beat a chimp bigger than this that trully wanted to kill you
>>27835438
>implying I would just stand there
>implying I wouldn't catch it with a kick.
>>27834908
>10x faster than a human
Fastest human land speed is 10.35m/s
Big cat speed is then equal to 10.35x10 = 103.5
103.5m/s Big cats confirmed for having more acceleration than a 480 horse power Ferrari.
You dun goofed faggot.
>>27835236
What do they keep doing with their hands
>>27835506
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udGAapx7Gok
>>27835524
it says hand signals in the video
>>27835511
>implying
>in a fight
You can kick it, but it's not like your bones will resist the impact.
>>27835541
A kick from a strong man would annihilate a cheetah. You have any idea how fragile they are?
>>27835506
Yeah a chimp could fuck up anyone on /fit/
>>27835506
I would have gouged its eyes out it something. Or stomped on it. Animals give up when they start getting hurt. They don't have the mental strength of a human.
He was bullying some scrawny nerd, big deal.
>>27835571
Less fragile than a human.
>>27835599
Compare a leg of a cheetah to that of a man.
Then look at the mirror and flip it off.
>>27834956
kek
>>27835511
Well, seeing an apex predator running at you at 65 km/hr would prompt you to run the fuck away like a little bitch.
Assuming you are some sort of macho man who is going to have the prescence of mind to time a kick, ehm. you wont. it will be on top of you before you even raised your legs, and even if you did, it had enough balance to change directions and take you from the side. Then youd have neither the balance, direction, or power to land a meaningful kick, meanwhile the animal has already cut your calf muscles useless.
>>27835526
>Never going near a chimp
>>27835634
>apex predator
>90 pounds
>only kills gazelle which are like 40 pounds
>blunt claws
>small mouth and less bite force than a human
>no fucking stamina
Yeah no, all it has is rediculous speed
>>27835612
A cheetahs legs are powerful and strong enough to run at speeds of 65km/hr, at that speed a human would seriously injure himself/break his bones. Human legs are incredibly weak in the animal kingdom. Our specialty is endurance, not strength. Long distance, not sprints. We are weak, man.
>>27834963
chimplets, when will they learn?
>>27835590
Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. The chimp was just kidding, just imagine how easy it could rip your limbs off.
>>27835516
get the fuck out of here u math NEEEEEEERD
cats rule math drools
$rekt
>>27835690
Call me when a cheetah uses it's legs to squat 405
>>27835690
cheetah sympathizer, go back to /an/, we'll surely stomp any and all cheetahs in the throat with our grorious quads.
as far as OP's question, the biggest animal would probably be an obese human.
>>27835682
Its only predators are lions iirc. It hunts more than gazelles. Weighs 72kg. Claws are sharp enough to kill you, so it doesnt matter. Sharp teeth, while humans only have 4 canines. It can bite through a human bettrr than we can bitr thrrough ourselves. It had "no stamina" because it is able to run at ridiculously high speeds. What burns more energy HIIT or long walks? The average cheetah spends more time on its feet than the averagr ameritard anyways
Yeah no, the only thing it needs is its speed*
>>27835719
You can't even fight an average martial artist, not even mention savage animals.
>>27835761
Have you seen a chimp fight. They have no fucking technique and just slap and bite. They are weak individually and are only tough in groups like basketball Americans
>>27835438
The only thing wrong about this post is a claw length of 4 inches it's more like 1 to 2 inches max
>>27835790
Yet they can kill you with one good punch in the face or rip you in half.
>>27835760
They've been killed by warthogs.
Warthogs. If pumbaa can kill it, then a 200 pound male easily can.
I beat up a cat my Dad had. It pissed on my laundry I had sitting on the bed. My bath towels never smell the same. I sat on it and shit squirted out of it's ass. I grabbed it by it's leg and threw it out the door and left until my Dad came home and cleaned it up. Told him I accidentally stepped on her and then she ran out the door. Fuck cats. They are rodents.
Vetfag here, trying to bring some sense into the thread.
A pissed big dog (~50kg) would be a serious challenge for almost anybody, sure your legs/arms may be thicker and stronger, but the strength these animals have in their necks is insane. You'd be bitten no matter what you did, and once it's sunk its teeth into you it'll thrash and spin about wrecking whatever limb it's caught, including breaking bones.
Instantly, you'd panic, and stop thinking straight. Literally the only thing you could do would be to blind it by jamming your fingers into it's eyes, and good luck doing that.
I've felt the strength of dogs like this, and you don't fuck with them.
Next, give that pissed as fuck dog retractable 3 inch long claws, a more powerful bite and 4 inch long canines, and 50% more speed and agility. You're fucked.
In my professional (lol) opinion, the biggest/most dangerous animals I could kill in a non-tools fight would be limited to young (~75kg) pigs, smallish male deers (~80kg) and other small herbivores. I weigh 105kg (~235lbs) and have been lifting for nearly 10 years. You guys seriously overestimate your own abilities and underestimate those of animals. Humans are only dangerous in groups and/or armed.
>mfw I actually typed this out
>>27835827
A warthog could gore the fuck out of you
>>27835719
Lol.
>>27835807
Thanks, still enough to fuck up human flesh though.
>>27835827
Unfortunately, the discussion was about humans, not warthogs.
>>27835827
>Warthog
Warthogs are really fucking dangerous.
>>27835866
This guy knows
>>27835846
Faggot
>>27835321
i'd just jump up and kangaroo kick it in the face. 405 lbs of force would snap its neck
>>27835438
>implying cheetahs attack by throwing themselves into prey to break its bones
Also, any force it inflicts is equaled on it. If it ran into a human for some reason with 1300N, then the same energy is going to hit the cheetah, which would fuck it up considering that they're not that big and have slender bones
>>27836020
I tried telling that but he ignored it.
He's probably a cheetah furry.
>>27834920
Yeah, realistically this.
If we were armed we could take on a lot of things, but unarmed and alone not much.
>>27835590
You've got it backwards man.
If you piss off a chimp by hurting it, it will (literally) chimp out on you. Animals will fight until they can't move. Gouge out a chimp's eye, it'll get flooded with even more adrenaline and will literally rip your face off. Gouge out a human's eye and it'll be screaming on the ground for as long as a predator needs to bite its neck.
Ever since early humans learned to use rocks and trickery as weapons, the species has been losing its edge in physical conflict. Don't use it you lose it; we haven't had to go 1-on-1 with our bare hands for millions of years.
>>27836056
my dog roughed the shit out of a wolf one night, so then i could too?
>>27836098
This. There was a news story around my area a while back about a lady who got attacked by a chimp. Fucking thing literally ripped off her hands and face. A chimp's strategy in a fight is to wedge its hands into your mouth and rip your jaw off. Absolutely brutal.
>>27834857
Housecats fuck up my arm right quick. Just imagine fucking around with something roughly the same speed, with about 100x the power. While you try pinning it down, it has the option to claw at your with its front or back legs, or bite your face off.
>>27835719
>thinks this matters with a cheetah
Loving. Every. Laugh.
>>27836098
>millions of years
> humans only been around for around 100000 years
>>27836234
It would be crushed and immobile under 405 pounds
>>27835866
Quoted for truth.
Look at this fucking lion. Just look at it. And it's only female. It could easily fit that man's entire head in its jaw.
>>27835694
hahahahah
>>27836255
If people have killed bears, then lions can be had.
>>27835866
Animals are pretty lucky. Why the fuck do they get to be natty beasts and humans only have smarts.
Either God is real and he's screwed us or evolution sucks.
>>27836255
Fuck thats hot....
>>27836254
I'll remember that next time I'm poaching cheetah to bring a 4pl8 bar with me. Fucker won't know what hit him.
>>27834747
>what is the strongest animal a fit and powerful human can kill
>strongest animal
>strongest
Ants are able to carry about to 25x their body weights, and I've yet to encounter one I can't kill.
>>27834747
A domesticated dog.
>no chance
Rhino
Elephant
Blue whale
Nile crocodile
>Very Low chance
Grizzly bear
Lion
Tiger
Silverback gorilla
>low chance
Jaguar
Cougar
Alligator
Black bear
Male buck
>medium chance
Chimpanzee
Cheetah
Large dog
Cat
>High chance
Racoon
Skunk
Possum
Rat
>>27836453
Add eagle to medium chance
>>27836453
I feel like raccoon and cat should be in the same category.
>>27836477
>Implying you can go against something that has the power to kill wolves and drop turtles on your head
>>27836453
clearly you've never tangled with a coon or skunk before. I'd rank both way the fuck higher than cat or dog. I'd much rather fight a medium sized dog than a fucking skunk. I had one bite THROUGH a fire glove when I was wrangling it out of our dishroom. the teeth on those things....
>>27836434
rhino beetles are actually the strongest
/thread
>>27835846
you a bitch
>>27836453
>very high chance
OP
Hummingbird
Pidgeon
>>27836477
MEDIUM CHANCE YOU SAY???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iFOVi0vJGU
>>27834844
The second you try to gouge its eyes it's going to bite your hand off. We can probably beat koalas but that's it
>>27836453
this makes me want to either play a game or watch a movie where the main character is fighting fucking rhinos and land whales.
Holy fuck, so much delusion in this thread. I can't believe some of you fuckers think you could take a chimp in a fight. Chimps are some of the most frightening animals on the planet. I would rather be up against a pissed off bear than a chimp.
>>27836020
>>27836034
Youve managed to completely miss the point of my post. Which was a cheetah can very easily take you down, it doesnt have to be going at full force. And your impact is further enhanced by our own inertia, causing whiplash in your brain and damage to your organs, as well as landing on the grown with 72kg of weight slamming you down. Stop acting like there is any chance for the human.
>>27834963
>implying you can kick tiny trips ass
>>27835866
>lying on the internet
I'm a professional dog walker. 99% of dogs are fucking dyel. What the fuck are you caring for? Wolves? Please. Even an alpha wolf is no challenge. I could easily go The Grey on any wolf and wreck it.
I've been lifting for 12 years with Magilla Gorilla, and even he just joined the 2pl8. You and your experience don't mean shit when you haven't even 1v1'd your first coyote.
>pic related
Another animal I'd wreck. It'd kick it like a soccer ball against the wall and take a shit on it.
>>27836640
Chimp detected.
U want banana?
U want to watch planet of the apes
Go back to the zoo exhibit.
>>27834747
ITT delusional faggots who don't think Ronda Rousey would even have a chance at taking Floyd Mayweather in a fight, but think that they could take wild fucking beasts. /fit/ gives male humans way more credit than they deserve.
>>27835312
A metallic dildo?
>>27836453
add hippo to no chance
is that chimp and housecat in the same category?
>>27836243
You missed another 100k years m8
>>27836640
black bear maybe, but grizzly bears are literally like fucking monsters
>>27835236
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o
That's really impressive.
Entire band of Less Than Jake vs 2 bigass silverback gorillas. Who wins?
>>27835321
>torque
>force applied at an angle
>I didn't pay attention in basic highschool physics
>>27836707
Well Ronda would lose, but that's only because she's a women. If a guy had her armbar and rolling skill mayweather would lose
>>27836453
One of the worst lists I've ever seen. Silverback gorilla NOT in the No Chance category? Black bear is only a Low Chance? Chimpanzee and cheetah are the same difficulty as a dog and cat?
I think that a hose may be fight-able with proper technique. Just don't get kicked or stomped and try to take out it's legs. Let's be honest though, 95% of the time a human would get their ass wrecked, but I think it could happen.
All this talk about animals fighting with no handicaps while the human doesn't use its full power of the mind to create tools thus at a handicap.
Human vs a Silverback, equal fight no handicaps: The human uses a gun to the gorilla's head. Its head splatters into a million pieces.
HUMANS WIN AGAIN ANIMALS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT WE RULE THIS PLANET APES PLS GO
>>27836914
>Implying
>>27836254
>implying the ability to move 405 lbs with your legs translates to 405 lbs of explosive kicking power.
fact: you can curl a dead cheetah
fact: a cheetah would wreck your shit nigga
For any large cat/dog the strategy is the same, and a human has a somewhat reasonable chance:
When it charges, slam your forearm into the back of its mouth as hard as you can and bring it down on its back. If you can get it on its back with your forearm in its mouth, punch away at the neck as hard as you can, or try to sever the windpipe by stabbing at it with your hand.
If you can't get your forearm in or you cant get it on its back, you're fucked. But a strong, fit man stands a reasonable chance of doing that, and a reasonable chance of crushing the neck once they've done that.
>>27836953
>while the human doesn't use its full power of the mind to create tools thus at a handicap.
not the point of the debate...
but if you want to go by your rules of "creating a tool" then at best you can have like a club/branch and maybe a sharp stick but that's about it..
being those about the ONLY things a person out in the wild could "create" from the resources at their disposal. Hell I could drop you off at a machine shop with 10 hours of prep time and you are still not going to come up with "a gun". Even if you did, you still would not have bullets. Maybe you could make a bunch of sharpened blades and crude body armor but bear etc is still going to win..
as for the OP.. straight up random fight about the only thing an average person has a chance against is a large dog. Even then in most cases the human is walking away with permanent damaged. The only real advantage we have over animals is brain power. It's why we are the top of every food chain when given unlimited prep time...
>>27835438
Holy fuck this is stupid.
1. A cheetah would not slam into you like that
2. If a cheetah slammed into you like that, you'd likely just both end up dead in one of the most retarded battles ever witnessed in the animal kingdom.
>>27837198
kek
>>27835438
kek
You realize endurance hunting is just following at a pace high enough to keep the animal from resting in shade. Its effectively endurance tracking, the animal overheats when you keep shoving it outta hiding and then heat exhaustion does it in.
>>27837168
If I had sheet metal plates for my thighs chest and upper arms, and time to craft a pike or spear I would 100% wreck the shit of anything in the animal kingdom short of an african bull elephant or a sperm whale.
>>27837314
you would die from overheating genius.
Do you think your tony stark or something?
>>27836707
That's a terrible comparison. Two humans who train to fight in extremely similar ways is not comparable to entirely different species fighting each other. When other aspects are highly similar, strength matters way more.
>>27837331
>omg you would die from overheating
You're retarded, what is any metal or cloth armour in the last 6000 years. Honestly, give me a pike or spear made in a machine shop and I will still win almost every time against a wild animal.
>>27837314
Your mom wrecked my sperm whale all night, and my bull elephant.
>not as tough as your mom
>>27836650
you are completely missing the fact that a cheetah would not throw itself at its targets because its not a fucking ram and would probably critically injure itself aswell.
ITT
Chimps are as tough as cats and Cheetahs attack by ramming into things at full speed
>>27837376
fuck of faggot we are having a mature discussion about the logistics of fighting wild animals with implements made in under 10 hours in a machine shop with unspecified supplies available.
I think a human could take out a decent sized dog if you were lucky. They're really only designed to bite so if you can sweep it's legs and get it into some kind of headlock all you'd have to do is suffocate it.
>>27837431
>this week on TLC
>>27836640
Chimps brutalize you and bears start eating you before you're dead. I wouldn't even go near either without a powerful rifle.
>>27837431
B-b-b-b-b-but the topic itself precludes maturity, your post was so dumb, and that softball was just sittining out there begging to get smacked.
>>27837410
>picturing a cheetah tackling and suplexing gazelles
This is totally logical
Anyone got the gif of a kid knocking out a kangaroo
>>27835846
Aaaaannnndddd you're a cunt.
This is the best thread /fit/ has had in a long time.
>can't stop picturing cheetahs slamming headfirst into their prey
>kamikaze cheetahs
>>27834920
probablt this
snap that neck/ or choke it
Tfw you'll never be a jacked silverback living a peaceful forest existence with your harem of qt gorilla chicks
>>27834864
A chimp's absolute strength(not pound for pound) is equal to that of an average adult male's. A strong mma fighter could beat a chimp.
>>27836583
That is absolutely fucking brutal.
>>27835827
warthogs have been known to be speared and move into the spear to gore whoever tried hunting them
they have to make special spears so the warthog doesn't try and move up the thing when killing it
warthogs and hippos are fucking terrifying
>>27837617
No fucking way. A chimp is designed to swing from fucking trees. Have you ever seen a chimps jaws? What the fuck would an MMA fighter do about those?
>>27835516
a chettah can accelerate up to 74.2 mph in just over 4 seconds. and a chettah only develops around 3 hp and weights 211 lbs.
now a farrari f12 develops 730 hp and accelerates to 60 mph in 3.1 seconds. thats an average acceleration of 19.3 mph/s. it weighs 3,362 lb.
a cheetah accelerates an average 17.4 mph/s and develops 4 hp.
not only does a cheetah have almost the same acceleration of a ferrari f12 (and would probably win against a unskilled driver), you used the term acceleration and then gave units for speed. you should go back to basic math.
>>27835524
negro magic. Think Diablo 3 witch doctor
>>27836098
What are you, some type of expert?
>>27837751
Summoning watermelon
a "fit and powerful human" could take down a big dog with their bare hands.
I'm not sure what you mean by "refined weapons" but that totally changes the dynamic.
And there are the true badasses.
>>27835361
you know they can absorb direct machete hits
>>27835506
lulz, seems like ALL chimps can't swim
>>27837740
This cheetah guy is hilarious
Cheetahs max speed ever recorded is 64mph, first of all. And they usually don't go significantly above ~30mph for kill runs.
Cheetahs don't weigh anywhere near 211lbs. They're between 50 and 150, and a 150lb cheetah is not going to be running 60mph.
You fuckin cheetah furry.
ITT humans are the weakest animals in the food chain.
>>27836453
UPDATED
>no chance
Rhino
Elephant
Hippo
Blue whale
Nile crocodile
>Very Low chance
Grizzly bear
Lion
Tiger
Silverback gorilla
>low chance
Jaguar
Cougar
Alligator
Hyena
Black bear
Male buck
Puff adder
>medium chance
Chimpanzee
Cheetah
Wolf
Large dog (German shepard or doberman)
Eagle
Human
>High chance
Racoon
Skunk
Possum
Rat
Cat
Very High chance
Dove
Squirell
Sloth
Ant
>>27836453
I could take a blue whale easy peasy.
>>27837943
>implying I wouldn't just plug the blue whale's blowhole with my body and choke that sumabitch out
>>27837943
Dude you could totally take a rhino. A rhino basically has to stomp you or gore you with its horn. Literally just run around in circles until it overheats.
Obviously you can't kill it with your hands, that skin is harder than chainmail.
>>27837739
>muh jaws
This isn't France. This is fucking America.
>An adult male chimp, he found, pulled about the same weight as an adult man
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2009/02/how_strong_is_a_chimpanzee.html
Americans don't count the bar so we pull AT LEAST 45 LBS MORE THAN THE FUCKING CHIMPANEZEE. THIS ISN'T A BUNCH OF 3 LB DUMBBELL SWISS BRANCH SWINGS
THIS IS AMERICA
You niggers aint considering that humans can bite too, and I would do it if I considered it entirely necessary
>>27837982
You don't understand how much pressure that is. You would not be able to plug that.
>>27838046
>implying I don't weigh in excess of 2000lbs.
>>27834747
C Dale Peterson killed a bear with his bare hands
>>27837929
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/AlexSchuster.shtml
>"Superbly adapted for speed, the Cheetah is the fastest of the big cats, able to retain speeds of 112 km/hr (69 and ½ mph)."
>"The cheetah is capable of speed
up to 72 mph (114 km/h) and can maintain this speed over an average prey chase of 3.5 miles."
>and can maintain this speed over an average prey chase
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cheetah
>75 mph max
u r dumb.
>>27838087
Yes, but it still can't beat 370m/s
>>27835202
Actually he's right.
Four legged animals have more power behind their legs, but it's counter productive to endurance.
Humans have the most endurance BECAUSE they run upright. It allows for a more efficient but less powerful form of locomotion.
You just made yourself look pretty stupid.
>>27838046
I'll plug that blowhole just like I plugged your mum's. Also, she is of a comparable mass. and a whore. your mum.
>>27838187
wot did u say about my mum m8? I will hook u inna gabber i swear on me lyfe
>>27835866
you on dat dere vet cell tech?
I want to see spider man fight 3 giraffes in the middle of a savanna. Where the fuck are you going to swing now?
>>27835327
Ok but what if you're a 6'4 225 lb 10% bf human being?
And how do we know if the study accounted for trained or untrained human beings?
Imo, the question is stupid because it's not reality.
In the end, humans trump other animals because of our mental capabilities. Our abilities to create, adapt, and thrive.
>>27838157
yeah but the post i was replying to said acceleration. im sure you meant top speed, but you said acceleration. which goes back to
>you should go back to basic math.
>>27838235
Chimp still would win
>>27838236
I, 370m/s guy, am not the person you were responding to originally.
I was just pointing out that it cannot outrun or out accelerate a bullet.
Should've evolved some kevlar fucc boi.
>>27838010
Buddy, chimpanzees have torn the arms off of each other. Humans cannot do that, period.
>>27838266
what the fuck do bullets have to do with this
>>27838282
A 180 lb elite powerlifter is easily stronger than a chimpanzee.
>>27838282
What are you talking about. Humans can tear other humans apart barehanded also. All you have to do is chew/bite and pull hard for awhile. Literally the reason this doesn't happen is because we aren't animals who use our teeth in fights.
>>27838010
THIS IS AMERICA
THIS IS AMERICA
THIS IS AMERICA
Cans.wav
>>27838262
I'm not the guy talking about the ants.
But honestly I think that a chimp will fuck up the average human being.
But if you put a 150 lb chimp up against someone like Mariusz Pudzianowski, (Who's 313 lbs) it would be a lot more fair.
Who would win?
1 Chimp and 1 Gorilla tagteam
or
10 Humans
or
1 Billion Lions
or
1 Of Every Pokemon
or
1 Space Marine
>>27838087
Alright cheetah furry, you're right about theoretical top speed, but the weight and average speed i quoted still stand, and still make the cheetah way less impressive than you make it out to be.
Also, have you looked at a cheetah?
>Those tiny thin bones
>That thin lean frame
>Those blunt as fuck claws
You could take down a cheetah no problem.
>justkickit.kek
you guys would be so fucked you don't even know. Those claws are razor sharp, that bite can snap a bone and go deep as hell, it has better reflexes many times over.
What are you going to do, get it in a headlock?
Only chance would be to wrestle it and crush its lungs/gauge its eyes and shove your hand as far down its throat as possible.
>>27837943
Move chimp to low chance
they're 5 times stronger than a man and are the most violent of the primates
ever seen a chimp run through the jungle?
all the leaves and branches are just pushed aside
when we walk through scrub we just avoid as much as we can
>inb4 humans r killin machines
when we are encountered with a new problem we are curious and inquisitive
when chimps encounter something new, they break it
they also hunt small monkeys
>>27838368
Is that his fucking scalp?!
>>27838368
Kitty don't like wigs
>>27838396
yup
Someone should have told this guy that he should have just kicked the leopard.
srs though look at the size of that thing
>>27838396
Seems like it. We tend to forget their muscles are bigger, and in a 1v1mebro, they are faster and have pointy things called claw, while we have meaty things called fists. Enjoy having your knuckles severed
>>27838396
ayy lm_scalp_o
>>27838427
You realize india is a country of skinnyfat manlets with no history of martial prowess.
We need to bring back gladiatorial combat to settle these stupid fucking debates.
>>27838282
>hes never had a 3 night bender with a lot of coke strippers and drug dealers in cabo
>>27838368
>implying beating improvished indians is impressive
When he does that to 6'5" muscular blue eyed blond aryan master race be sure to tell me
>>27838469
u saying wat u son of basterd bich?
>>27838488
i'm 6'5 dinaric alps serbro and I think he would literally fuck my shit up
>>27835516
>so autistic he took 10x faster as scientific fact.
>also the fastest human ever = the average human
usain bolt isnt trying to kill a fucking jaguar m8
>>27838301
>a 180 lb elite powerlifter
>>27838354
oh those tops speeds are not theoretical, they have been measured.
a cheetahs bite force is 475 lbs, well enough to break bones and cause mortal injuries. sure if you get lucky and its make mistakes, you might win, but the odds are not in your favor. the claws would shread you up, its bit would literally break you and tear your shitty body. its agility will be enough to move faster than you can react.
>>27838427
A 70 year old man once killed a leopard by ripping its tongue out.
>>27838368
>>27838427
A normal human's reaction is going to be to flinch, blink, and throw up their hands. A human that does that is going to lose against virtually any animal.
A mentally composed human who is prepared for a fight to the death is a lot more dangerous than you give him credit for. A human like that is not going down easy.
>>27838313
>What are you talking about. Humans can tear other humans apart barehanded also. All you have to do is chew/bite and pull hard for awhile.
Which is not what chimps do, they grab and yank the fucking arm right off with their hands. They do not chew and gnaw the arm off at the shoulder, they fucking rip it right off with a violent yank.
A full grown male chimp absolutely fucks up whatever human man you put in front of it. I'm not even going to touch the retards ITT that are actually considering a cheetah or tiger or some of that shit.
>>27835038
I think Brock would have a good chance to win.
He might lose an appendage, but he could win.
>>27835202
humans used to just chase 4 legged animals until they got tired and fell down because as two legged animals we can run, breath and sweat all at the same time.
4 legged animals need recoop time becasue its hard to breath when they run
>>27838520
Candito confirmed for 2.3 fWHR high test alpha male?
>>27838347
David Rudolph Dennis Sandstorm
>>27838347
clearly the pokemon would win, there's so many of them now
>there are people in this thread that legitimately think they can beat a chimp in a fight
Monkey prick.
>>27838427
SHOOOOOOOOOOOT HER
SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT HER
>>27838531
I used theoretical because no cheetah is going to attack you at 74mph. It just doesn't happen. It's a maximum. Again, average kill speed is closer to 30mph.
Claws are dull, you could easily bear a few scratches if you're dealing severe enough damage.
And you can prevent bites entirely, jam your forearm into the very back of its mouth. You're going to be heavier than it, and with much better control over your balance, so throw it on its back. Punch its neck a few times and it'll give.
>What is the strongest animal a fit and powerful human can kill in a fight to the death without any refined weapons?
a powerlifter
>>27834747
the real question is why were putting the humans at a giant disadvantage and not doing the same for other animals?
taking away intelligence from humans is a huge disadvantage on the evolutionary scale. we wouldnt have gotten anywhere if we werent smarter than every animal on the planet
>>27838605
lol'd
>>27835866
Pretty sure you could take a calf of over 100kg, they tire really fast. I can wrestle them and I only weigh 75kg (stocky manlet)
>>27838727
Humans are actually pretty large animals and we do have some advantages. There really rant that many animals larger than us.
>>27838664
Just a reminder everyone: There are people that are this stupid that exist, right now.
>>27838727
yea, this is true actually. Evolutionarily, we sacrificed muscle strength and bone density for larger brains. So, it's kinda stupid to take aware that advantage.
>>27838368
>posts a jaguar instead of a cheetah
>>27838664
>punch its neck a few times and it'll give
this is confirmed i tried it with my grandma's beagle
>>27838531
And Pound for pound humans have stronger jaws than Gorillas and Chimps, what's your point? Also Cheetahs don't have sharp claws there's are more similar to a dogs, they do posses one sharp dew claw that is not manipulatable however. Also I think you're wrongly equating top speed to agility for some reason. On top of that you're also highly underestimating the usefulness of opposable thumbs and digits that can cause quite a bit of damage to flesh and vital areas.
>>27838751
Yes but our physical bodies are built for endurance not raw power. Thats how ancient humans hunted, they literally chased an animal until it collapsed from exhaustion.
That and our brains
>>27838754
>loses argument
>look he's stupid
>>27838664
you used theoretical because you dont know how to use the word theoretical correctly
and how is jamming your arm in its mouth preventing a bite. you think its going to let you throw it on its back? its going to literally rip the skin from your arm. cheetahs have very high shock pulling force because of their high agility.and who says its going to go for your fore arm. what are you going to do if it bites any other part of your body.
you are delutional if you think you can beat a cheetah in a fight.
an animal will throw 100% of its available strength at a human from the go, a human unless under some type of mental illness wont.
theyd tear you apart before there was a real chance for you to fight back
>>27838840
So you're saying if we get brock lesnar, force him to smoke pcp and meth, and then let him fight a wild animal he will win?
>>27838839
cheetahs dont have sharp teeth and if your arm was stuck down its throat it wouldnt clamp down
if youre choking is your first thought to close your mouth?
>>27838767
Because this is /fit/ not fucking /g/
This is purely a theoretical test of physical might of humans
>>27838864
>>27838858
i think he'd have a fighting chance against some animals.
ive seen a 100lb woman take 4 grown men to hold down because she was having a psychotic breakdown. brock lesner with that kind of psychotic rage could probably do some damage
>>27838839
>Theoretical: concerned with or involving the theory of a subject or area of study rather than its practical application.
Cheetahs have a theoretical maximum speed of 75mph. This is not a practical estimate to base assumptions off of. This is a theoretical maximum. Any given cheetah will probably not even be able to reach this speed. You shitfucker.
Do you realize how teeth work? Do you realize how jaws work? Do you understand that jamming a forearm into the back of cheetahs mouth will dramatically lower its biting capability, as well as force the points of contact to be the most blunt teeth?
You are bigger than a cheetah, you have better balance than a cheetah. You can throw a cheetah on its back.
You are an idiot if you think a human can't beat a cheetah.
>>27838858
>TV show where Lesnar is forced to compete against animals of increasing size
> first week is a squirrel
Fund it.
>>27838839
>you are delutional if you think you can beat a cheetah in a fight.
Imagine a fuckin full grown male tiger. Seriously, people in this thread are idiots.
>>27838830
>>loses argument
>>look he's stupid
Dude, you ARE fucking stupid. You are implying that you will be able to forcibly insert your hand into the mouth of a full grown male CHEETAH that is trying to kill you, and you're also implying that it's a good idea! You are fucking beyond stupid. I am bewildered and ashamed that people like you exist, and I say that with sincerity.
Like, there are actual adults that honestly believe that an unarmed human can not die when fighting a full grown male cheetah. It's funny, but godamn it's pretty sad at the same time.
>>27834747
ur mum
>>27838883
which is stupid. if you give a human a spear which any fuckwad could make given a stick and rock, theyd win a lot more fights handily.
most of the arguments being made are that animals have sharp teeth and claws. not that theyre stronger. give a human a spear and they win almost every fight except against a grown lion, gorilla, or tiger
>>27834747
Man
animals a /fit/izen could kill
-a dog under 30kg
-a housecat
-a shrew
-a chicken (not a rooster)
-a cow fetus
-an iguana
-a black bear with all of its bones removed
that's about it
