Need a comfy snug cabin for my property, what's the cheapest way to go about it? is 7000 for pic related good?
Well, building one? I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you asking how to build one or how to buy fag/shill?
>>987194
Well, they come completely empty, I would use it as a starting point to make something liveable
>>987185
This is probably the cheapest route. You can't build an empty cabin for that price. Also quicker too.
Cheapest thing to do is buy a prebuilt she'd from home depot for like 2000 bucks.
One with a barn style roof is best.
Then add supporting beams, an extra floor, and a deck.
The extra lumber will add up to $600 at most.
Adding a window or two (if it doesnt come with one) will probably be like $100-150.
Adding insulation will probably be around $50
>>987204
Why couldn't one be built for less than $7000?
>>987204
If he has zero tools it might cost a few thousand. Plus whatever else he wants. That the prebuilt was doesn't have either.
What type of toilet you going for op?
>>987213
He could. That timber would not cost 7k.
>>987219
>Timber + nails + screws + Windows + doors + tar paper + shingles
I think it would be pretty close.
>>987224
>Windows
Use wood for the frames, glass is sold at $10 per metre square (40 bucks max) + $5 scoring tool
>Door
Implying you wouldn't make your own door
>screws
$50 for a 11kg bucket of standard woodscrews
>tar paper
Another $50
The only pricy thing would be the timber and the standing seam metal roof like in OP's picture which will cost between $9.00 to $12.00 per square foot, shingles are so 2015...
You can go pretty cheap when your main currency is time.
>>987393
>glass is sold at $10 per metre square
not glass you'd want in your windows
>it's another cuck shed thread
>>987185
DON'T BUY A SHED LIKE THAT
I just built an 8x12 "barn" for a woman for just over $800 in brand new materials. Granted all the siding is metal not wood.
You could pay less if you used pre-used materials (I find Windows in the trash all the time). Building your own, if you know how, will save so much money. And you can make it exactly how you want it.
>>987858
Wh6 do you attached so much of your self worth to your stuff? Anon what's to save money and make his life overall life easier.
>>987918
wot m8?
Did a job once clearing land for an airport expansion.
They were selling houses, garages & other small buildings for $100 - 200.
Of course you had to pay to move them but if there's anyone clearing land for some kink of development near you you may get lucky.
my friend's wiccan mom has a cabin like that in a nice wooded area. Most of it was built by local amish carpenters for a few thousand and then we finished the rest with insulation.
>>987393
To live in the modern age, he'd want double-paned windows with either a vacuum seal or inert gas.
>>988235
I built a set of windows for my cuckshed. I mean tool shed. off my garage.. Making wooden framed windows with 2 panes of glass is stupid easy. its two rabbets about 1/4" apart? taking tar/2 part rubber, and creating a gasket all the way around, putting the panes in. let it cure. put the frame together, cut two holes in the top. insert nozzle from Argon canister and open the bottle up. argon is heavier then air and will displace the air inside causing it to push it all out. seal the two holes on top with some rubber plugs.
>install your window
bam. easy as pie.
The Youtube channel " SolarCabin " is up your alley.
http://youtu.be/fJsDOD0dTQI
http://youtu.be/yjvT9V2pZE0
Op, check out this site,it has great info and a forum on the subject.
http://www.small-cabin.com/
>>987185
What's the sq ft on that "cabin", 6k is a bit overpriced -unless they deliver and assemble is on site, if the property is 50 mile or less.
Those Home Depot sheds are worthless for anything than a blueprint for style and design. Go to one that has them assembled in the back of the parking lot, find one that is the size you want and take pictures or something if you can't visualize the finished product.
I built a 10x12 shed in my backyard for right around $1200, T111 siding, 3 tab shingles, aluminum soffit and fascia trim cedar 1x4 corner and frieze board trims etc. The same exact shed from Depot was around $2500, but it was framed with 2x4 joists, and rafters and 1/2 OSB for subfloor, sheathing and roofing. You can buy the lumber yourself and have 2x6 framing (other than walls which isn't necessary unless you will insulate it) and 3/4" subfloor and 5/8" roof deck. Building your own doors and windows is an option, but I've seen steel prehung exterior doors for $100, even less for cheap contractor grade vinyl windows, maybe a little more for double hung. You're living in a fucking shed, you're not going to need hand scraped maple floors, 3 piece crown and base trims, and Marvin windows and doors.
Build the box,put your shit in the box, live in the box.
>>987185
You could build that yourself for less and better if you use your imagination.
>>987185
just buy a fucking caravan all these cuck sheds are retarded.
>>987907
My friend talks the truth. This is the way to go.
>>987185
Why dont you just build your own cabin?
Also, what the fuck is up with all the windows? Get something with a skylight, not a fucking side window or door window, for fucks sake do you want bigfoot looking through your window jerking his monkey dick to your sleeping ass? A fucking bear could break the glass on that front window like paper.
True. Remember the sheds for sale are built for MUCH less than the sale price, probably not more than a fourth of retail. One advantage, if you need it, is you can scale small buildings so they can be delivered to site on a rollback truck just like the commercial units. Towing companies move that stuff all the time.
I like metal so I'd just have a shipping container (40 foot High Cube) delivered to site if I were in OPs situation. Then I'd camo it to blend nicely, with adjacent foliage as I've already done with my storage and shop containers. My High Cubes were 2400 each delivered and I positioned them together manually atop steel I-beams (they were free and I wanted the extra height) then welded them together with no help. OP would only need one.
Fuck bears, fuck bigfoot, and I'd be able to open the end doors so muh baiku could live inside securely. People forget about those end doors.
It's easy to fab man doors, windows, and anything else you'd want just like industrial jobsite containers use. Nothing at all to invent, just copy what works.
Advantage of beginning with a container is instant structure highly convenient for shop or shelter. I sleep in a hammock so I'd tie off to the ceiling tiedown loops for the first night.
Ballpark costs:
2500-ish for a container in much of the US.
A sound railroad tie under each end for a basic foundation. (Containers are supported on corner fittings, no slab needed.)
A few hundred for doors and windows. Your call how many and where. For a "cabin" I'd mount them high on the sides near the roof. Skylights leak, but you can get a similar effect with better lifetime sealing from well-placed windows.
For cabin use a shitter, shower and stove are your call. There are many cheap options and you can use a composting toilet. My bro built an old school outhouse twenty feet out from his pole building, then ran his internal toilet to the outhouse. Easier than hassling with a septic tank.
>>991783
If you live in a hot climate / no shade that shit is going to bake your ass
>>991784
I do but I coated my roofs white with industrial roof coating. (Sand box deployments taught me well.) If in a very hot climate I'd to a roofover for some air gap using galvalume sheet over metal framing.
I've had my shop setup in SC over ten years and I don't run windows since I don't need them for light and want optimum gasketed sealing to protect my machine tools and welder. I ventilate using a couple of high velocity fans normally used for children's "bounce house" inflation which work very well. I could hang a window AC easily but don't bother for a shop. I have a good spare window unit but can't be arsed to install it.
If I were doing an off-grid cabin for residential use I'd have windows for light and esthetics. Not typical Amurrifat sliders, but European style windows so half the fucking window area isn't wasted when they are open. I'd copy pre-air conditioned US houses and use metal awnings over the windows. They work.
If you weld you'll have a fucking blast using containers. I'm a gearhead and motorcyclist. I live in a conventional small older home but if it burnt down I'd just move to my shop space then drop a nice extended length one-trip High Cube with end doors on both ends then get to work.
>>991799
Any pictures of the hammock setup in your container? Place sounds great.
>>991805
I didn't set up my hammock there, it's a shop. I was saying how I'd set up in one used as a "cabin" per OP. I sleep in my hammock using a Texsport steel stand (off Ebay) at home and tie off to whatever when camping. I use an ENO Doublenest most of the time but have a Hennessey Expedition for mosquito season outdoors. (The bottom entry makes taking a leak at night convenient!). Check hammock forums for mad info on hammocks. I'm no expert, but my back is fucked and hammocks are comfy.
I'll take some pics for these container threads when the shop is a bit more orderly, but the inside isn't particularly interesting. It's packed with equipment, filing cabinets, tool boxes. and so forth. There is not much to see from the outside and that's deliberate. :) Ain't sexy but it's effective.
If you look inside an empty container they have steel tiedown eyelets on the floor and ceiling at the corners of the box, spaced at intervals down the length. 18-wheeler load locks fit into them if you remove the rubber feet so you can hang whatever you like off that. They are made to take load binder chains when moving heavy machinery.
I do have a pic of the roof joint which may be helpful. I bought a steel 4x8 1/8" thick and had my bro shear some strips from it. Cheaper than buying flat stock and any fab shop can make the cuts easily. You will notice standard containers (both are the same nominal size) aren't always IDENTICAL between corner fittings. I tacked then welded the high side first, worked my way down with a hammer and welded the seams using flux core wire in a suitcase feeder. (You can rent that gear if you don't own it, or do it the slow way with stick if you must. 3M 5200 would work but I wanted a solid roof and wire welding is relatively quick. I already had the gear and the wire. Ground to shell, toss stinger on roof, connect feeder and weld.
Corner fittings previously welded w. 7018 stick.
Here's some inspirational container porn:
http://seabox.com/
Roof pic.
Here's a crappy pic my bro took inside the High Cube I helped him get. Our gunsmithbro asked for it since mine are so full it's hard to picture internal space.
The workbenches and stool give an idea of scale. Pic is taken from the door end. Note the internal height which is 9'6". You want that for ventilation and more storage. If you like loft storage/beds etc there's ample room.
I welded a beam under each end of my first container, then positioned two temporary beams under the second as ramps. Using a Wyeth-Scott puller and chains I manually winched the second container up against the first with corner fittings snug against each other.
You'll see the container riding a piece of downward-facing channel which is pegged inside the corner fitting by a hunk of truck axle welded to some angle. When the corner fittings were close enough I removed the safety device. Steel on steel will skid so don't trust friction. All lifting was by hydraulic bottle jacks with steel and wood plates and shims. For safety I placed supports within a couple inches of the containers bottom so if it fell it could not possibly fall far. It was tedious but not hard work. I could have hired a rough terrain forklift but I'd rather buy tools or motorcycle parts.
You could weld your containers together at the corner fittings then jack or lower them as a unit if you want to shim them level. Each High Cube weighs only about 10,000 lbs empty. I haven't seen anyone else mention this stuff so I do.
If you want to spend money Tandemloc makes manual corner locks you could use to quickly lock two containers together and unlock as quickly to move them.
https://www.tandemloc.com/toc-container-twistlocks.asp
Containers can go from cheap to badass military-style shelters but most of the construction is basic. They are highly suitable to DIY.
>>987185
That's 2000 more than I paid for mine. 14X24 with 2 lofts and porch. I fucking LOVE it though!
>>992038
gotta dig a big trench for it first, then lower it in, then build or pour some reinforced walls that can support the sideways pressure of the dirt, maybe reinforce the roof too if you want to cover it... that's a lot of extra needless work
>>991872
Effective is the way to go and so is hammocking all year round. My office hammock gets more use than the one in the bedroom. I breathe hammock forums but I haven't seen an idea like yours.
>>991872
Thanks for the website and pictures. I have to get myself to New Jersey one day.
>>991891
this^^^ $1,500-3,000 average. More solid than any house. You can sleep in it 5 minutes after it is delivered. Put a window, skylight, roof deck, door anywhere. Stack the driest hay bales you can find against outside, spray with mold/mildew inhibitors and stucco to seal for insulation and so it doesn't look like you live in a crate and to provide approx R-55 insulation (standard is R-19 in most southern places, not sure in the north. leave plain if mild climate). Two containers and a few grand and a bad ass bungalow, pick related, $7,000 if you are close to containers, West coast.
>>992242
further pictures
>>987858
>He wants a 30 year mortgage or dump his money into rent with no return
Who's really the cuck?
>>988374
I wouldn't want to live like this, not that I even could -40 is a bitch.
>>992242
You know you can build that with out the use of shipping containers and have insulated walls.
>>992242
I heard shipping containers don't really last long compared to traditional home building materials.
Like a house made out of shipping containers might last 20 years
>>992243
>shipping container
>it's stumped, wood floor, wood frame, plastered, tin roof
>shipping containers are only facade
nice house. too bad they kept the shitty old rusty containers instead of just using tin roofing for the siding.
>>992345
Tell me about it, the majority of the containers have been cut away.
>buy two containers
>throw three fourths away.
>buy I beams and cladding
>build a new shed around bunched containers.
>>987185
This was an old refrigerated container that was bought for $1,500, carpeted and plastered for free with materials that were already around
>>992388
Obviously no toilet/shower/kitchen, but the industrial warehouse I was renting had all of that attached. Served me well as a home away from home for a while. Cupboards and storage are hidden by the door in the photo
>>992353
>Throw three fourths away??? Your autism is showing.
>>992353
I've got to come back to point out your lack of perception. (40 by 8)*2 = 192 linear feet of container wall. Approx. 60 feet of wall removed not counting doors or windows = 132 LF. 132/192=.68. Not even a third removed. >>992345
^this cunt. They come with wood floors, they don't need to be plastered nor do they need a tin roof.
>containers are only facade
Containers provide the structure for $4.68 a square foot
>shitty old rusty containers
I guess painting is beyond your skill level.
>>992339
how the fuck? dry rot proof, wet rot proof, termite proof, paint once a decade for rust prevention, the container itself is fire proof and lasts a decade plus is a salt water environment. Site your source that they might last 20 years.
>>992310
the picture shows furred out walls which are easily insulated.
^^^suck a fuck. op wanted the cheapest snug cabin and shows a picture of a (12*24?) $7,000 shed. about $24 a square foot. For $4.70 a square foot OP could have a solid as hell, drop it off a truck, secure as shit cabin. I could break into the shed with a sledge in under a minute from any side, you would need a cutting torch to get into the container. For the same cost as the shed OP could have 760 square feet, if OP wants small 320 sf for cheap and that's what he asked for. Ya I'm mad, your stupid is painful to observe.
