Is this line on my hdd platter normal?
it was making a clicking noise as the head moves back and forth between its 2 extreme positions, so i opened it and found this.
Did my head crash?
What do I install to fix this? Or will I have to replace the head?
/g/ is telling me to get a new hdd, but im sure this can be fixed.
Looks like a head crash. Since you opened up the HDD, and it's not in a cleanroom, it's rekt anyway, get a new HDD
It's dead, get a new one
>>986253
>not in a cleanroom, it's rekt
this you dummy
>>986252
>actually opening the HDD
Did you open it in a sealed positive pressure Laminar Flow Hood that uses HEPA filters? If not, it doesn't matter what happened to the HDD because you fucked it over just by opening it in dirty air.
At least you now have many things you can do with a dead HDD. I suggest goolging them.
>>986267
im not a stranger to broken disks.
im adding this one to the pile then.
>>986267
>>986262
>>986253
I did do it in a clean room at work though, not sure if it was a 'sealed positive pressure Laminar Flow Hood that uses HEPA filters' though.
>>986268
>plays 'spot the seagate' in the dead drive pile.
>>986268
>hitachi
wtf, hitachis don't die
I work in a glue factory as a chemist. The R&D work required of such a position leaves me a lot of downtime, so I try to come up with fun projects to work on. Usually they're less hands on, as I struggle with mechanical stuff.
I don't have much more than various glues, 5 ply, 3 ply, and an old, blunt band saw. And, as I mentioned, I'm also not very good with my hands. So when I decided I wanted to make a candy bowl for my desk, this is what I ended up with.
It needs to be cleaned, sanded, and painted. What else could I do to make it look cooler/ nicer? I was thinking of making a resin solution (napthenic oil and gum rosin), turning it upside down, putting popsicle sticks over the gaps and covering the underside with a glaze or something. But I'd imagine it's going to be much more difficult than that.
Anyone have any other good ideas?
>>986292
WHOOPS, WRONG THREAD
>>986288
that was user error
it was in a laptop, that was on at the time, that was in a car, that fell into a river. Then it took me 1h to get it out again.
The laptop still worked, but the screen was extremely dim, and so i copied everything off of it and put the hdd in storage just in case. I have an external cover that I want to put it in since it seems like such a wast to leave it in the dead pile.
>>986252
It was unfixable at first and since you've opened it it's even more unfixable. Those scratches means your read/write head crashed into the platter, standard mode of failure if your drive has a certain age.
>>986347
I got a ups after this one died, hopefully it helps.
my power continued to go on and off for the past week, and i think that's what killed it.
electricity on a farm in south africa is shit.
>>986288
hitachi is worse than seagate. ultra shit tier.
I only go WD black or better. best to pay for something that will last. although if you want something of real quality you've got to go enterprise grade from any of the brands. they're rated at 1000x the mtbf because servers will access them constantly as opposed to expected consumer usage, running for half an hour a day to check facebook.
>>986288
They do now that WD bought em.
>>986252
Since its opened it's fucked. Looks like it was fucked before you opened it, but in future you should never open a drive if you want to have any hope of recovering data.
Crashed head isn't something you can fix, even if you had a cleanroom, since the platters are damaged. Even with a state of the art data recovery lab you would at best recover some percentage of the data using specialised hardware to read the undamaged portions of the platters.
>>986660
>you should never open a drive if you want to have any hope of recovering data
i want this meme to die
even those running data recovery companies say that its not that important.
>>986665
Death star happened under IBM breh
>>986252
/g/'s telling the the truth. It's fucked.
>>986664
The distance between the head and the disk is maintained by a cushion of air generated by the platter spinning
Getting dust on the platter is usually considered a bad idea.
I doubt any decent data recovery company really thinks its a good idea and its definitely bullshit that they would give people tips on diy recovery considering the potential business they are losing no matter the outcome.
It used to be the done thing to make a clean room in your bathroom by running the shower hot so steam collected all the dust
I used to teach in a clean room, I don't remember a single student ever producing a wafer without hair or dust or some shit ruining it. Girls were the worst because looking good is more important than not dropping your dna everywhere
>>986293
I want to pet that rat.
>>986351
>hitachi is worse than seagate. ultra shit tier.
Literally retarded
>>986664
If somone doesn't know why they shouldn't open a HDD there is exactly zero chance that they will magically develop the skills necessary successfully open and repair a HDD by reading one thread on an image board. For them the advice is solid.
Conversely, if someone has the skills to sucessfully open and repair a HDD they will understand why the conventional wisdom is not to open them and decide whether they want to take the calculated risk that is opening a HDD outside of a cleanroom.
Even if you know exactly what you're doing, opening a HDD with important data on it in a /diy/ setting should be considered very risky. With data densities increasing every year, tolerances are shrinking making /diy/ HDD surgery more and more difficult.
The only two invasive proceedures that are in any way practical for /diy/ HDD surgery both require a working donor HDD of the same exact model, preferably manufactured close to the same date, ideally from the same batch (slight revisions to a model's design may be poorly documented, closer to the same date minimises this risk).
Why break a working drive to fix a broken one? Because it's not about fixing it, it's about getting the data.
The first proceedure is a head swap, where faulty heads in the target drive are replaced with working ones from the donor drive. It is extremely difficult both to remove the faulty heads without damaging the platters, and to correctly align the new heads so they can read correctly, again, without damaging the platters.
The second proceedure is a platter transplant, where the platters are removed from the spindle and painstakingly realined onto the spindle in the donor drive. This is done to fix a failed spindle motor, or if you can't identify the problem since you're literally replacing everything but the platters. This is even more difficult than the first proceedure, getting everything correctly aligned in a /diy/ situation is a combination of precision and sheer luck.
>>986864 (continued)
I don't consider a PCB swap to be an invasive proceedure since it doesn't involve breaking the seal. And yes, I know HDDs arent hermetically sealed (*excuding He), but they are dust sealed. The pressure equalisation hole is small enough to prevent the ingress of dust.
Drives that have been operated on, even by professionals, have a tendency to die suddenly, so it this shouldn't be considered a repair, rather it is a step in data recovery. The 'repaired' drive shouldn't be put back into service.
As to OPs problem, you can't /diy/ recover data from a disk with a crashed head that is not detected by a computer. There is physical damage to the platter and even if you realigned the head somehow the HDDs control board is not designed to provide the low level access necessary to recover data from the undamaged sectors.
>>986252
The platters should have a uniform mirror finish, those lines are damage caused by the head scraping on the platter.
The mirror coating on the disks is the magnetic material, any damage to it will likely render the disk inoperable. The damage to your platter apprears extensive.
Even if you could repair this drive, which you can't, replacement parts for HDDs are not a thing, you would need to buy an entire drive of the same model just to get the parts. At that point why not just use the perfectly good drive you just bought?
>>986673
It started with IBM, and the move to Hitachi didnt fix it. They struggles in reliability and sales for years until WD finally took them over.
>>986252
As others already said: Drive is fucked. Into the e-waste bin with it, buy a new drive. Hope you have backups.
>>987016
Grab the magnets out of it, they're useful for various things. The chassis is worth about 20c as scrap aluminum. The rest of it is pretty much worthless unless you have a specific use in mind.
>>986791
> its definitely bullshit that they would give people tips on diy recovery considering the potential business they are losing
go search on youtube, there are tons of data recovery companies that show how to do it yourself, ofcource they say that if its important data to not do it since it is very high risk, and instead leave it to the professionals.
They claim that getting the right tools is the hard part, not the clean room, since hey have special equipment for specific hard drives to keep the platters aligned, remove the heads wile keeping them from touching anything, removing bearings from the spindle motors and so on.
So even when they show it, it doesnt take away a lot of business since you would need $1000s to get the right equipment anywayo
>>987051
You're welcome senpai.
I just read the /g/ thread you posted and holy fuck is it cancer. Makes me remember why I left /g/
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/S54288756
>>986252
you opened it, thats the worst thing you can do, no fix possible
>>987249
ebin XD
>>987249
Not true. Opening it carefully is not an issue. That scoring however is a sign of destructive heads. Send it off if you want any chance of anything back.
I have recoverd data from a number of drives i have opened. I have even used a drill! to kick start a dodgy spindle and managed to restore. You clean room and dont open guys are going a bit ott here. We arnt talking about repairing a drive for long term use. Just getting it running for long enough to recover.
