>no 3rd season
>"we have enough for syndication"
>live action shows get 4-6 seasons constantly
>live action shows reach the bottom of the bag plots around their 3rd
>Craig had a full new story that would develop the mains in a way we will never know, and was turned down
I used to think I understood some of Disney's tactics, because if it wasn't for the plot factor of the third season, it'd seem like they were just bored and worried it would get repetitive, but with a new story and everything announced, that's not the case. I get network's reasonings a lot of the time where some people don't, but Disney has never been "less shit is good" ever.
>inb4 petition link
I don't have it, but I don't think it'll work guys.
>>82658183
Question. Why did they run Phineas and Ferb so long then? Was it just a massive hit comparatively?
Animation costs more.
>>82658183
>Live action shows get 4-6 seasons constantly.
This.
I'm really done with what they do to the sitcoms.
Pair of Kings was once decent, but it was ruined when a protagonist got swapped with a shit like "oh, I guess we were three brothers all along."
Lab Rats went trough a lot of shit until they turn the whole "unusual family" show into a "S.H.I.E.L.D." mockup.
Meanwhile the only sitcom I found surprisingly decent "Crash & Bernstein" (the one with the muppet thing), just got 2 seasons.
Why does the sitcoms have to get shit to get more seasons?
Let it go you giant infant it's over.
>>82658562
Lowered production values.
>>82658422
I think it was more marketable. The songs collected a huge album, and they were all relatively received positive, that's one of the main things I recall.
>>82658552
Isn't flash supposed to be cheaper? They've had a couple episodes using extra resources but overall I don't think they crossed into "hand drawn" budget.
>>82658562
>>82658580
It really is cheap, they use a lot of the same houses, models/props and the like, there was 2 shows that took place in the same neighborhood in real life and after someone pointed out online that they saw the other house of the other show in the background, one was cancelled. It's just a thing.
>>82658568
The thing is, I'm not complaining or whining, I'm just saying I don't get it, Disney and most other networks make decisions based on logic, whether it benefits us as a public or not. I don't see them loosing money on this animated series, and I don't see the excuse of having enough for syndication being very valid, it has a lot of episodes sure, but Disney has never worried about that before and as far as excuses for ending a show goes, never heard that one before.
>>82658562
Kirby Buckets is going to end up like this.
>>82658642
There's no way you watch that series. It's really fucking obnoxious and cheesy, no joke hits any mark but down and they rely on horrible jokes to boost their story.
>"cray cray" songs
>rap all the time
>IM COOL YOUR NOT OOOOH YEAAA tier levels of character work
>>82658183
>>82658562
So what are the best DCLAU shows? I liked Liv and Maddy because it had continuity and seemed like Bakuman.
>>82658910
what the fuck are you doing
get out of here
>>82658910
I can only see Liv and Maddie ending with some kinda tragic bitter sweet moment. Because Maddie is too arrogant by half.
Girl Meets World I'm interested to see where things go since Disney has one of the mains pegged for stardom. Show goes after issues I wouldn't expect them to do as hard as they do.
Riley is going to come out I think is a given at this point as Sabrina Carpenter goes off to be a pop star for a while they'll develop how Riley deals with things.
Show I still think is strongest when the old cast comes out to play especially Rider Strong and Will Friedle who I swear is just alibiing when Eric comes to town. Given current election possibilities if we don't get a President Eric show, it'll be a shame.
K.C. Undercover needs help I feel something is there but its never really built up enough.
Best Friends Whenever has got some good game playing with Time Travel and putting limitations and consequences on their actions. Their side characters are by far the stronger part of that show in terms of humor. Better prop gags and joke setups.
Don't know how Game Shakers is panning out. Doesn't seem to high on the network radar.
>>82659100
What the fuck? People on 4chan are actually intrigued by disney live action shows so much that they will say "I'm interested to see where things go" about it's fucking plotline? god damn
>>82659134
One pays attention to areas of employment.
Helps make better pitch material they'll hook them. Like mixing bathroom humor and a highbrow joke in an animated pitch.
To be fair, who can understand Disney's decisions? They cancelled the Infinity games for no reason whatsoever, and replaced a lot of Marvel animated shows with shittier ones.
>>82659167
That's not at all what that post was letting on, that was forming a message by someone intrigued about how a story will go and that they look forward to the next installment.
Craig posted on his blog about why the show was cancelled.
Season one wasn't serial, because really, cartoons being as serial as they are is pretty goddamn new.
The target audience is also little kids, not grown manchildren.
So as season one was coming out, they noticed something. First, Wander Over Yonder was pretty damn watchable. Kids would watch it, and they'd watch episodes more than once.
Second, they didn't really care if it was a new episode or not. Wander's biggest numbers actually came from RERUNS.
So even before season 2, it was already decided that it'd be the last season. Given a bit more freedom, Craig used that to set up the Dominator storyline, again telling a non-serial story but with episodes that would change the context. So you'd have episodes where Hater is trying to become number one, then trying to romance dominator, then run away, then beat her, etc.
Craig hoped that if season 2 was successful enough he'd get a season 3, but that didn't pan out, because again, his audience isn't you. It's a kid whose probably going to watch Teen Titans GO anyways.
>>82659441
>Second, they didn't really care if it was a new episode or not. Wander's biggest numbers actually came from RERUNS.
I flat out blame Disney's nonsense scheduling for this. Airing new episodes in surprise timeslots/ with no sense whatesoever means that obviously kids are going to favor a timeslot where Wander is consistently airing.
>>82659441
He's working on a highly serialized comedy series pitch right now.
>>82659737
They've got a deal with netflix. They should first run there and then put it up on their channel for reruns.
>so many cartoons have ended in the past
>this one in particular has autistic old men wanting it back
>ITLL WORK GUYS TYPE YOUR NAME ON THIS SITE
why do all of craig's babies get cancelled
>>82659100
This . I like. This.
>>82659245
They cancleed them because they sold like shit and tanked consumer products
>>82659100
Isn't Game Shackers a Nick show?
>>82660679
So they can be resurrected as corpses.OMG YASSS!
>>82661437
right sorry I meant "Gamer's Guide to Pretty Much Everything"
Some Nick and Disney stuff blends together way too much in some aspects.
But yea that new Cameron Boyce show isn't that visible among all the other stuff. Perils of being on Disney XD. Surprised they've not pulled some Tubers in for guest spots on that one.
>>82661437
So that's why I haven't seen much of that show yet.
I really just want the finale to be called The Grand Finale
>>82658562
What about Girl meets World?
>>82665554
Close to quads, but also thanks.
I'm shocked there's no buzz about the next episodes. It's been awhile since there's been a little WOY talk thread.
>>82658183
"We have enough" is another way to say "your cartoon isn't doing well so we're going to cancel it".
http://kureisan28.tumblr.com/post/144206269035/update-wander-over-yonder-june-episodes-two
>>82666102
Usually they're not so nice like that, but I could see them treating a cartoon legend (to an extent) like Craig with more respect about it.
>>82666298
OH FUCK KIDS LOOK AT THIS
WANDER ENDS IN JUNE HOLY FUCK
I WANTED A GOOD SCHEDULE BUT NOT LIKE THIS
FUCK FUCK FUCK
THE END OF THE GALAXY
CAPTAIN TIM EPISODE FROM THE WASTE OF TIME
SHIT MEN ENJOY THE TIME WE'VE SPENT TOGETHER BECAUSE IT'S A QUICK RIDE TO THE FINISH
>>82666327
>>82666298
AND I RAN
I RAN SO FAR AWAY
I JUST RAN
I RAN ALL NIGHT AND DAYI COULDN'T GET AWAY
>dead thread
>new series of episodes announced
>including the finale title
>still dead
DONT PROVE DISNEY RIGHT
>>82666327
>The Search for Captain Tim
>The Flower
>The End of the Galaxy
jesus christ
PARTY MODE ACTIVATE
>>82666298
Noice
>>82667294
cry more
>>82666298
>the end of the Galaxy
It hurts
Still can't get over it, won't get over it.I just want them to be space boyfriends
>>82669858
>>82670192
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>82666327
>The End Of The Galaxy
Damn. Here we are.
>hey, we gave it a go...
>put on a heck of a show...
>and did a lot of fun stuff we'll get to talk about after!
>>82660220
No one ever implied that.
>>82666327
>The End of the Galaxy
Why so soon?
>>82658183
Doesn't Craig own the rights or at least share the rights with Disney now?
Can't he... crowdfund a few more episodes?
>>82670233
I was correcting my spoiler, relax nigga
>>82658183
>>82658562
So, is it just nostalgia when I remember shows like Even Stevens being way better than what's shown now?
Or has production value really just plummeted?
bump because wow new titles
>>82658562
>>82673164
I grew up thinking cartoons were inherently better than live-action shows because of this crap, and I still haven't shaken it. The only sitcom I'm familiar with is Community.
>>82659441
I have a niece and nephew over regularly. One is 11, the other is 7.
They are BANANAS about WOY, it's insane. Their home life is pretty unstable, and watching new episodes at our house with us (since we have DXD) has become a huge family "thing." The older one is constantly rewatching her favorite clips on Youtube, but I realize they're probably an anomaly compared to most kids.
>>82658422
Right place, right time. They never had to move to XD halfway through the first season, and since it was one of the few cartoons at the time because most of their other cartoons were either wrapping up or moving to the other channel, it allowed themselves to grow in popularity without much effort.
>>82671477
Nope. Like with every original TV cartoon out there, the publisher owns the property 100%.
>>82678250
Well that's not fucking fair.
>>82658183
tfw people only started to care about this show when dominator appeared.
>>82659134
Have you ever been to a /tv/ thread about Disney's sitcoms?
On second thought your a lucky guy.
>>82681506
This and all those live action Nickelodeon shows.
Disney kind of always had the live action, though, and I always thought they were even gay then.
>>82681126
Sad truth, unfortunately.
Do you anons think that WoY would have fared better on a network like, say, Cartoon Network?
>>82678874
Nothing that can be done. What are you going to mr. idea guy? Fund the show on your own and put it on your own TV network?
>>82682272
It wouldn't have looked as great since CN isn't as nice about their budget.
On the other hand, Craig McCracken used to work at CN so he could probably assemble a crack team of old friends.
On the OTHER hand, I'm pretty sure the reign of Snyder and CN's old deadlines may have chased McCracken off of CN for good.
>>82682929
I hate this bitch
It's sad WOY isn't getting a season 3 but it's a show that will always stick with me.
Wander is the only character I've seen who is nice but not annoying.
I hope kids watching it will be influenced by wander and turn into good-hearted people instead of scumbags like a lot of young people these days
>>82684272
>like a lot of young people these daysThe economy is on the constant brink of a Great Depression-sized meltdown, the dollar means less every day and prices hike exponentially. We're expected to network in absolutely EVERY fucking thing we do, which is devaluing education and experience in favor of connections, which doesn't help when you're an aspie. Oh, but you still have to drop thousands on a higher education, to learn what you could Google. And then there's the goddamn debt, which is hard to pay off without a job. And when you live in a suburban hub like I do, all anyone is ever hiring for is management positions, or jobs that require two years worth of prior experience in that field.I realize that I don't have it THAT hard, I'm not trying to garner pity or sympathy. But I fucking hate being lumped in with extreme cases of enabled idiots and foppish windbags. I've got this fucking Mobius strip cyclic problem because I made the mistake of thinking I want graphic design as a career, only to find out it was shit. So I'm basically stuck with a degree in a useless field I'll never work in, and locked out of a job with nothing to show for it. But because I'm not a goddamn 40-something with a wife and kids, my problems suddenly don't mean shit to others, like I'm lazy and NOT shitting out applications everywhere. And it FUCKING BURNS ME.
tl;dr BLOGPOST
Postingthe cutest coupleto keep things tangentially on-topic.
Yeah, it kinda sucks, but what can you do? the best chance the show has is either die a good death or hope Disney notices the petition and the massive boom in popularity it got post-My Fair Hatey.
>>82667294
What's the significance of The Flower?
>>82666327
>the end of the galaxy
Oh fuck.
I wasn't ready for a series finale title that was so fucking out of the way from the normal comfy and cozy types.
>>82689872
It just makes it more sad
>>82689226
All I can think about is the assassin that was a flower, but I doubt it's that.
>>82691217
he ded though
Bump because I'm going away from internet for a bit, would like to come back for more Wander discussion.
For the past couple days there hasn't really been a thread for the show.
How pathetic, WoY threads are now scarce and under-used.
and you guys wonder why it's ending, when /co/, full of people who will make threads about something not even the OP cares about, refuses to touch a show
>>82693877
yeah it's ending because of lack of threads on /co/, that's it
>>82694363
Way to spin that one around Captain Columbus, I was referring to it's popularity being an issue.
>>82694528
>spinning something around
>captain columbus
i dont see the relation..
>>82693877
Gumball threads are worse. The fandom is fucking dead.
>>82694944
It didn't get renewed past that one season (5 I think) either.
>>82694987
Yes, season 5
Nope this isn't dyin'
>>82676890
yeah most kids don't have such great taste sadly
Alright, what would you like to see of the ending? Considering the title, do you think Craig is going to end it in a way that is finite and there are no chances of their being a reboot (consider what is going on with PPG).
I think it'd be pretty interesting if considering Wander is teaching Hater to see the good in people, maybe Hater can show Wander that Lord Dominator simply is no good and that not everyone is worth--or can be--changed.
I definitely would like to see some character development with both Wander and Hater in that respect. It'd be cool for Hater to lighten up a little, see that Wander does have his best intentions at heart. I get asking for friendship might be too much to ask but Hater seeing some of the errors in his ways would be good. Maybe he takes over the universe but pledges to be a fair ruler. Or something.
We'll see, I guess.
I want Wander tosuffer.
>>82697375
You sound like a Steven fag.
>inb4 "outta nowhere with that comment!!"
just... dude
>>82693877
We just had a thread that reached bump limit a while ago though. At this point people are just waiting for new episodes with almost nothing known about them. Heck, we didn't get any new info until just now.
>>82699238
>a while ago
>get a good and solid schedule
>immediately leads to the series finale
>>82697375
Lord Dom gets killed off.
Wander and Hater are glad they saved the universe.
They fall out right away, go back to fighting, it ends with the cycle continuing.
>>82666327
>The End of the Galaxy
>The Flower
I bet you my money it's one sole flower on a destroyed planet or something like that.
>>82699999
Quints confirm.
Everyone go home.
>>82699999
>Quints
Fucking confirmed
>>82699999
yea but what happens in the night out
bump for Lord Hatey
>>82699999
Nice quints. But fuck, I hate the idea of Lord Dominator being killed off despite how it's the most logical outcome. It's just that the entire theme if this show is about love and redemption, and LD in general spits on that concept. It would be nice to find a clever alternative rather than straight up killing her.
Good show, that's all.
>>82698971
Nope, SU sucks. God forbid I contribute fucking discussion.
>>82705026
It's not a bad show, just vastly overrated. It's pretty flawed, but people forgive those flaws easily because of lesbo space rocks.
>>82658626
it uses toonboom (though a lot of cheap "flash-looking" shows are actually in toonboom)
>>82707370
I didn't care for it, honestly. Watched a few episodes and it sort of dragged, I couldn't get the appeal.
>>82699999
I would like this.
>>82702857
What would the alternative be? Honestly, I think it would be pretty interesting if they were forced to kill her off, it goes against Wander, and it would be interesting to watch how he deals, albeit how briefly considering it would be the last episode.
I feel like the death of Dominator is unlikely.
>>82710438
stripping lord dom of her powersand her virginity
>>82659441
>Second, they didn't really care if it was a new episode or not. Wander's biggest numbers actually came from RERUNS.
>>82659737
This kind of seems like the logical answer to this, if kids really like the show they'd want to see new episodes, the idea they like the reruns better is nonsense.
Also, wasn't Gravity Falls serialized? Sort of? Disney seemed to love it, could have sworn they asked Alex for another season.
>>82666327
>The end of the galaxy
He wouldn't cliffhang it
He wouldn't cliffhang it
He wouldn't cliffhang it
>>82711156
Don't fucking say something like that.
He already said he had enough time to write it as a series finale worthy episode.
>>82670192
Same here
>>82712231
>tfw the show is ending just as I was starting to get into it
i-it's for the best, I guess. better to send it off good than to watch it rot.
>>82712357
Same, feels real bad, man.
>>82712357
Yea but Season 3 had a specific story.
>>82713005
Man, it fucking sucks we will never see it. Anyone know what it's about? Can Craig even divulge that info?
>>82713142
hater being a monkey boy sent into space by humans on earth but something happened with his glass helmet cracking
and a few weeks before I had asked about the possibility of an earth story since they wander through space
>>82713277
No no no, that was debunked in a post on tumblr by Craig.
>>82687621
Damn, I have a friend who wants to study grafic desing, another going for engineer in systems, and im going for mechatronic engineering. This scares me and I think it's good I'm scared. I hope you can get back on your feet man. Good luck in life and remember, you still got 30+ years to recover, I bet you will.
>>82658183
This show was incredibly mediocre.
>>82715139
Consume feces and depart from the mortal world
>>82714874
Link?
>>82715139
To each their own!
>>82687621
I feel all those woes, but
>cutest couple
>Hater and Dom
Blasphemy, m8
>>82694987
>>82694944
>>82695303
Which is three more than WOY will ever have, plus the international popularity especially in Japan.
>>82718047
You know what's good!
>>82658183
They only have live action shows up for so long so they can rape the child actors. Thanks, Jews.
>>82658183
>TSTMNBN officially outlives it's half-cousin twice removed
YOU LITERALLY CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
![GMHH-4-1024x576[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ql4wV57.jpg "GMHH-4-1024x576[1].jpg")
>>82666042
Let's be honest here, the only reason anyone watches Girl Meets World is for the continuing adventures of Cory and Shawn.
>>82714874
>>82715835
he said specifically it WASN'T debunked but he confirmed nothing
>>82719598
This, the kids are downright insufferable. If it wasn't for the parents it would be complete trash.
>>82720525
Hear, hear. I hate the best friend character with a passion.
>>82718434
Patrician taste.
>>82719598
They made a sequel to boy meets world?
>>82725089
Yup. Girl Meets World. Cory's daughter.
>>82666327
The last time of this season better be Hater telling Wanderhis preference to mustard or mayo.
>>82697375
The idea of Lord Dominator being placed in a life or death situation she has no control of and forcing Wander to choose her fate would be intense. Should he stay true to his beliefs and try to save her despite it potentially fucking up the galaxy, or does he adapt a new code for his life, that some people just really want to watch the world burn and leaves Dominator for dead?Alternatively, Sylvia being the one to befriend Dominator.
bump
