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How's Your Webcomic? /hyw/ #272
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Share your comic with others!
Link your website and portfolio!
Don't just shill!
Comment and critique others work!
Previous thread: >>82679263

Thread activity: Improve your paneling.
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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0lck7oo4A [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/
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Do your best
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>tfw you can get the daily viewers of your comic on one hand
it's 0
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What are all the must-knows when it comes to making money, (or even a living,) off of webcomics?

What are the most important things to do/know?

What are the best/easiest ways to make that money?
Ads?
Merch?
Patreon?
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I got the hard drive back.

A very mysterious anon sent me an iso via email, and walked me through all the command prompts I needed to do.

It was extremely arcane but it ended up working.

Thank fuck.
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>>82753385
>Ads
Adblock'd
>Merch
Additional responsibility. Inaccessible unless your comic has already established nice fanbase.
>Patreon
Easiest shit. No wonder why people flock to this. Sure, there are creators willing to payback their patreons with bonus goodies, but for some, they can get away with almost next to nothing (like just promising more artstreams, faster deliveries, etc.)

Also, lookout for Imzy.
>inb4 leddit shill
That site is a carebear version of the site the creator just got fired from, seems real shitty now aint it, but they have this "tipping" thing where people who liked your comment/product/whatever, can tip you irl money just for posting it. If it ever takes off, well you know what to do. Don't expect to get the full amount tho. Its easy as balls to please people, but that site will still get a % because they said that's how they'll keep the site alive instead of ads.
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>>82753632
Good stuff. Thanks m8.

I just hope I can find good Patreon incentives. I hate the idea of putting "exclusive" stuff behind a paywall.
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>>82753632
Think it would kill you to be a bit more peppy about such an exciting medium that functions off the cogs of imagination and wonder?

Jesus.
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>>82752843

yeah ive been busy playing uncharted 4 on ps4... sorry, yall, im not going to finish this page anytime soon and im in no hurry to do so, sorry i missed the last thread, im going to go ahead and miss this one to, just dropped by to show yall a preview of the next page i will work on when im done 100% completing uncharted 4 (all treasures, all combos, max difficulty completion, etc)
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how come no one here has made it yet? passing /co/ frequenter genuinely curious.
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>>82753689
You kidding? There are those that have.

I mean it would depend on what you call "people here".

The 6 billion demons guy has come here before y'know. So has chochi. Even Ashley Cope has visited us.

But what you're wondering about is this: It takes a while for someone to make it. And these threads are relatively new. Yes. 2 years is new.
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>>82753680
Do I sound dull?
I hadnt slept to make this 272th thread what with us not leaving page 8 forever and its nighttime here.
>WELCOME TO PATREON! ENJOY YOUR STAY AMD MONEY! WHOOP!
Suck my dick.
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Update! What do you guys think?
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>>82753752
>>WELCOME TO PATREON! ENJOY YOUR STAY AMD MONEY! WHOOP!
>Suck my dick.
A bwuh...?
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>>82753924
Too violent and exciting.

Pls fix it.
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>>82753935
... ?!?
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>>82753664
Setting up a Patreon myself; just need to come up with a "Why you should support me" statement that's a little more than "gib moni pls huahuehuahuehuahue".

I'm considering having high-res artwork go up on the Patreon, while smaller versions are released for free in the usual social media outlets. Similarly with comic strips - a larger strip will appear on the Patreon first, while the usual size will appear for free on the main website later. Everything will be free to view in standard definition, or you can pay for early access to high-def content. Maybe have one or two things (eg wallpapers) that are Patreon exclusive.
I'll also have a sketch commission tier; get a personalised sketch once a month.
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>>82753984
The rest sounds good, but can you trust your patreons not to leak the high def stuff?
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>>82753689
I can tell you for a fact that psudonym lurks here.

>>82753632
>Adblock'd
Lately, I've come to believe that far fewer webcomic readers use Adblock than I previously thought. I still won't be mad at them for using it, even on my site, and I won't ever ask them to whitelist me or anything, because I too use Adblock. I'm no hypocrite.

Speaking of ads, there's a link in the Pastebin in >>82752850 that I really feel should be removed in future /hyw/s, namely the one about which advertising services to use to make money, because I checked it last night and it's really, REALLY out of date. Multiple ad services it discusses are now defunct. It's just not a good resource anymore.

>>82753385
>What are the most important things to do/know?
You can't make money if your comic isn't good.

That's not true in the slightest, but pretend it is so you push yourself to be better.
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I think the bones could have come out better. Also not thrilled with the 'acting' in this one.
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>>82755593
I think you're being too hard on yourself.
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>>82755593
I hope those addresses are only put on the uploads you bring here.
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>>82755665
Someone's gotta be; I don't get enough actual criticism, and I'm afraid that my work suffers because of it.
>>82756040
Too much? I thought it might be too much.
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dead thread

your comics are already dead
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1 page update this week.

http://LuckyHazard.cfw.me/
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>>82756464
>Too much? I thought it might be too much.
It immediately pulls me out of the awesome page I just looked at.

You gotta be quieter with that stuff. I mean it doesn't have to be completely absent, but it can't be in large 100% black lettering.
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>>82753924
I thought each panel is very well executed, although something to think about is to have the panels not to have such logical progression, and leave certain things to the imagination rather than guiding the viewer step by step.

I haven't seen the previous page, one idea is to have the first panel a bit further away in terms of camera placement. So you get a larger view of relative position of each actors. Occassionally putting back more in general is good idea, sometimes its a pain in the ass if you have to draw certain type of bg tho.

>>82752843
This is as far as I am going to work on this page, its taking up too much time I am just going to move on. On the bright side, I know exactly how many pages my first chapter is going to be, 38. Because I completed all of the dialogue heavy storyboarding for it. I will start writing summery for the second chapter soon.
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>>82759143
Here are some additional pages I was working on.
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>>82759164
The last one for now.
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>>82751613
no dude i like that guy. i just wanna be right
>>82752521
watch out for that nose on the dude, its angle is changing a lot
>>82752656
AHH CUTE holy shit. sometimes i forget how nature-accurate you can be, but i remember you also knocked those goats out of the park
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>>82753631
nice job man. something similar happened to me once. knowing someone nice and good at this shit is really the only way you can succeed at computer
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>>82753924
interesting, a ceremony. yeah i'd wanna stay retired after that too. just outta respect.
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>>82755593
bones don't really crunch unless they're breaking under your feet, which youd have to be a massive and heavy giant..
>>82756464
uh, you should ALWAYS have some kind of indicator on your pages, so people know where to find them if they're posted outside your site. a googlable title is good. you don't need your tumblr AND your patreon, just the tumblr is fine
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>>82753632
I use adblock, but I always unblock specific pages I want to contribute to. Don't you guys do the same?
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>>82760615
Nope! I Adblock as much as I possibly can, which is why I will never get upset at my comic's readers for Adblocking me.
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>>82760615
ads on even the most trusted site are guaranteed (in the way that if something has a 1 percent chance and you do it thousands of times it's guaranteed) to have something infecty in them.
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>>82760615
I don't Adblock at all.
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Who here has revealed their webcomic power level to their friends and/or family? What were their reactions?
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>>82762400
How do you mean? That I make a webcomic or...?
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show off your cuties /hwc/
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>>82763124
purple hair isnt cute
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>>82763124
purple hair is cute, don't listen to>>82763622
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>>82763124
>>82763805
Teresa is cute! CUTE!
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>>82764173
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>>82763124
Everyone seems to love this ugly piece of shit.

And some like jack I get.
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>>82765758
Fuck off.
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>>82765894
Don't be rewd.
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Making some major strides with this monstrosity. Really happy with how the antenna on the top and the doors are turning out. If anyone has any ideas on what to do with those empty spaces of cement on the sides there I'm all ears.
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>>82767336
more importantly, if you can still make changes the the logo, you should make these red and blue less saturated. They are really jarring, and quite frankly, kinda ugly.
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>>82767533
yeah the logo will be different in the final product, all of the screens are just place holders.
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>>82767336
Also here's a rough version of how it will be animated once finished.
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>>82759187
>>82759164
Your perspective is nice, to the point where it makes your anatomy look really bad in comparison. Especially on pages that feature the characters in those high level perspectives.

It's unavoidable though, as you can only learn so fast as you go. But I would say spend less time on the buildings and details and more on anatomy for now.
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>>82765758
>everyone
Don't kid yourself, the people who like that crap you can count on one hand
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>no one posting comics
it' ssaturday afternoon. a re you guys even working on anything?
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>>82769367
I am.
I'm just too scared and self-conscious to post my comic here.
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>>82769736
stop roleplaying
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>>82769367
I'm actually writing a script right now.
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>>82764173
>a permission
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>>82769367
I'm dried out of ideas... and has been banned on two of the places I go to for my comics.
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>>82769915
Be nice, AmonZone is a godless chink who doesn't speak English as a first language.
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>>82769367
I'm moving to a new apartment in a different state.
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>>82770076
Not trying to be mean. Just got a chuckle out of it.
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>>82769367
I usually do my work at the beginning of the week (aka sunday and monday) because I work nightshifts.

I'm planning on doing character studies to get my main characters down pat before I post the first chapter. Headshots with different emotions at different angles. I plan on releasing my first chapter by the end of the new week
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>>82770497
>implying you aren't going to procrastinate and make it the next week instead
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>>82770076
How Can I Be Godless If God Isn't Real?
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>>82769367
I only post the initial sketch with words, then the final page after if anyone has critique.
I don't want to flood the thread with endless works in progress (like a certain shitposter in here) but this is my current page
A lot of people don't like the bluntness in the last panel, and I'm inclined to agree, but I can't think of what to replace it with.
Also, right now I'm looking up how to apply better line weight, so I'll probably do another pass on the inks
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>>82770497
Girl has like no cranium.
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>>82770729
The wording in the third panel confuses me. So he would have preferred if she said, "What? Or else!" instead of "What? Why?"
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>>82770729
"You kill her" might flow better than "kill her" in context. And the preceding statement feels a little long paired with both the shorter statements and the expression of surprise.
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>>82771032
Is her head too small?
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>>82771297
m8... her head is shaped like a guitar pick.
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>>82771446
Even if the head is tilting back?
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>>82771509
is it tilting back? I didnt know.
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>>82771509
If her head is tilting back we should see the bottom plane of it. Also her lip is almost touching her chin.
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>>82771857
ah, good point.
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>>82770729
>eliminate her
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>>82769367
rabbit fencing
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>>82769367
I just finished a massive comic commission and I'm gonna get hammered and work on scripts. Might actually do something with my non-porn comic for once.

Also I am receiving some business advice. Yay.
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>>82772189
share business advice
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>>82770729
that's not really how you're going to do word bubbles, is it?
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>>82772264
I will but the person giving it to me went out to buy more liquor so I'm not sure how viable it will be. But he's doin' pretty good so yeah.
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>>82770729
Too many waifu's...I cant pick just one!
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>>82755593
Your work is very nice- it makes me want to be a better artist (and maybe try screen tones).

Pic related is tonight's thing. Sticking with bnw I have more or less doubled my rate of page productio (now I can get 2 done in a week) despite the fact I just started working full time. I'm lookimg at working 3 twelve hour shifts weekly so I can have four days off a week.
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Bump. Where the comix at?
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>>82775667
In this thread.
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>>82775710
oh thanks
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Doing a few collages of images as a sorta teaser for The Sisters. Something nice enough to be shared for cool illustrations alone, but something that puts the previous arc and next arc in context.

Here's some inks of the first batch. Tryina work a bit more with shadows and spot-blacks. Got 2 more batches to ink and then splashin em all with color.
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>>82776576
ima save that under chin shot for future reference. shit's perfect.
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This is a commision I did for a coloring book.

Loved doing it. Thinking of doing some kind of soviet kitch comic.
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>>82776806
never seen a coloring book with the shading lines decided for you. neat.
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Finished this page!
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>>82777154
>wow the simple colors actually don't assault the eyes, not bad-
>seizure inducing spazms in the second panel
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>>82777154
Is she supposed to be sexy?
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you guys don't deserve comics
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>>82777386
If you want her to be.
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>>82777585
go on
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>>82777007
tryin to color outside the line with me buddy??!?
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Slow, but steady... it's going to be quite a while before I can release anything substantial. I'm going to have to learn to be patient.
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>>82777154
Cute!
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>tfw your internet friends aren't supportive of your comic
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>>82781074
Mine are, but it gets really awkward when I start talking about it
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>>82781074
>TFW your real life friends won't even read your comic
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>>82781263
>"anons talking about his shitty comic again!"
>"Quick! feign interest!"
>"ugh... but like, he won't stop!"
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>>82781437
That's probably whats happening to be honest
I know like 2 of my friends who are genuinely interested in it happening, but the other 2 of my friends really don't seem to care
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>>82781574
oh shit man sorry
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>>82781291
mine used to try to but now they say they have no time
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>>82781574
how do you even know they're genuinely interested, and not just afraid of hurting you?
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>/co/ level
>'comic in /hyw/ stars a brown girl' music starts playing
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>>82781074
>>82781291
>tfw comic has /ss/ themes and you have to be careful about which friends/family members you even allow to read it
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>>82781727
No, like I explained the whole story to them and they were sitting there for like 40 minutes actually asking me questions. They are basically my backups for ideas now whenever I'm not sure what to do with it sometimes
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>>82777154
ok i have bo idea of what the hell is going on here and the faces make it even more weird

but now i need to know the context, can you give me a link to the full comic
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>>82782249
you will still have bo idea afterwards, as this is currently a plot arc that hasn't really unfolded yet (they're at some kinda fighting tournament that turned out to be a multi-activity school field day thing?) but at least you can figure out what the characters are about, which is most of the enjoyment of this comic
http://freakanimes.com/westtree/

btw dewd your title-blurb has a typo in it. proportions.
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>>82782249
The girl in the maid outfit is trying to make the shitty computer game enjoyable with her sexiness.
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>>82777154
W-Would you ever consider drawing lewds?
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WIP page, anything lookin off?
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>>82783110
Maybe for a little bit of cash I would

Email is [email protected]
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I want to ask for feedback on my comic but I've always been scared that the feedback would be all negative and tell me to change things that I like too much to change.

Like, I'm not scared of the actual criticism, I'm scared of looking like a douche if I accept all of it but don't change the bad things.

Am I a shitter or is this normal?
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>>82783685
ffs just show us your penis
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>>82783997
*ffs juat show us, you penis

goddfucking damnit
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>>82783685
Depends on the things, IMO. The comic I'm writing is kind of down-to-earth, but at the same time very cartoony and sometimes dramatic. A cartoony art style as well.

If someone wanted me to change that, I couldn't do it, because it's the kind of comic I always wanted to write. If someone criticized the STRUCTURE of the story, though, I would listen to that.

I would take all technical criticism seriously, but the subjective stuff a little less. You can't please everyone.
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>>82783685
You will only look like a douche if you have a history of asking for opinions, people giving you tips and sugesting changes that are widely agreed upon that would be an improvement, and you kept not changing anything, or changing insignificant stuff to "throw us a bone" because you know better.
In any case post your comic faggot.
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>>82783685

Contrary to what the people who post here would have you believe, you don't have to change things about your own work if you don't want to.

Critique and advice are extremely important, don't get me wrong, but some of the "critique" around here straight-up people going out of their way to bash each other. Critique isn't a one-way street where you have to do exactly what the person that is being critical of you tells you to do.

People tend to forget that around here.
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>>82784085
Don't bully Dewd!!!!!!!!!
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>TFW get a whole scene in my head as a sudden inspiration
>It's great, and probably the best thing I've written so far

Fuck. Is there any way you guys have ever forced inspiration to come? Because when it happens, it's 1000x better than the stuff I write when I actually sit down and try to come up with stuff on purpose. Pic unrelated.
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>>82784065
>I would take all technical criticism seriously
That's some of the stuff I worry about.

Like fonts or site colors. I've grown so comfortable with them I really wouldn't know what to do to change them.

Don't people bitch about things like white text on black backgrounds?

I also use Comic Life's default font; Lint McCree Intl BB, but I doubt anyone would take issue with that at least.

>>82784046
>>82784085
I'll post it eventually. Just have to gather the courage and turn off my autism switch. Maybe after I've lurked and gotten more comfortable in these threads.
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>>82784096
It's true people don't have to listen to criticisms and advices, but it doesn't change the fact that if you keep asking for a critique, people take their time to respond to you, and you keep ignoring them, you will look like a douche. Specially if what you do is bad and you never improve.

>>82784170
This is specially funny to me, because I was going to bash the Dewd on that post, I had cropped this image to use as an example, but I thought it was unfair, he listens to criticisms. What a fight it was for him to change the sideburns on this awful character though.
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>>82783685
It's normal man, just learn to separate the criticism from the flat out insults. People tend to say harsh shit on the Internet when in reality they don't actually care that much. There are some people who know their shit that can help you on here but some that are on the same or lower level skill wise who will give you poor advice so take it all with a grain of salt.
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The next part of this bit >>82776576 Some side characters we've seen before and one we just saw the silhouette of. Gonna take a breather and then get to the last one. Then colors.

>>82776680
Thanks! Honestly I copped it outta some japanese human anatomy book I got in a reference dump once. Not bad.

>>82777154
The simple colors definitely read a lot clearer than all the shading/highlights of previous pages. Stick with this.

>>82783603
Nothin looks off to me. Diggin' the whole 'everything looks alive' feel you've got going. Plus how much use you get out of a single panel's background.
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>>82784242
well what i usually do is imagine my characters interacting with eachother in different place, and based on what they are doing i decide what would be good to add to the story

i also base some of the concepts of my comic on songs that i like

>TFW get a whole scene in my head as a sudden inspiration
>It's great, and probably the best thing I've written so far

i know that feel, the last time it happened was while i was about to sleep, and i had an idea for a scene where one of my characters found an object that was just the thing i needed to connect most of the stories i had planned, so i wrote it quickly on my phone, it was just a sudden thing that was so obvious but for some reason i had never tought before

now the name of that object will probably be the title of my comic
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>>82785106
Yeah, hahaha, I felt kinda dirty just reusing the same background, but I gotta get moving faster on this. Plus I put some work into fixing up any touches that needed it, so!

Really loving your art, too!
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>>82785106
How much time did you take on these?
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Making progress. I can probably update by tomorrow.
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>>82753924
Dude, getting hit while driving at high speeds is fucking dangerous. Those guys would've probably died irl.
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>>82784320
Wait, so you did like the sideburns or not?
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>>82785795
Was there anyone who liked the sideburns?
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>>82785871
Me, but I don't know if this was a decision you guys convinced me to do, or if I just forgot to keep on drawing them.
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>>82786016
this guy is literally brain damaged
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>>82786016
Look at the Dewd trying to act all tsundere. "i.. it's not like I respect you guys opinions or anything!!"

Don't be like that, man, the design is much better now and that's what matters.
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>>82753924
This is why you need to wear a helmet.
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>That feel when want to draw in Disney style
>It looks like shit
>Only good stuff made by me are in tartakovsky style
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>>82753686

Alright its sunday, im done playing uncharted 4, i made it to level 30 in blade and soul and im decked out in maxed out purple legendarys, and i just downloaded tree of savior on steam, but i havent played it yet because IM GOING TO FINISH THIS PAGE TODAY!

my plan was to do a minimum of 3 pages a week and because of video game addiction i only finished 2 this week, so i really need to finish this page today to stick to my original schedule so i can hurry up and go back to working on demon juice which is my main project

FATES is just a side project, but like a main side project
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>>82786612
>implying they both don't look like shit
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>>82786665
But there is a difference between total shit and shit
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>>82786663

bump, spoiler as to what happens when the page is finished
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>>82786856
The expression on the guy's face in panel 9 is kind of comical, I don't know if that's what you're going for or not
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>>82787047
You clearly has not been following his weekly updates, tho
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>>82787047

it still has a long way to go, i might change it

but to answer your question on one hand, yes people getting killed in this project are meant to be taken kind of seriously.

on the other hand, not to seriously that people get triggered by it or dont want to read it anymore because there are to many gruesome violent deaths in this webcomic... ya know?

its not as graphic as as the sisters recent killing of conrad, which was really detailed and violent way to kill off a character, very gruesome and very awesome by the way!

but im sure when the sisters guy gets famous enough he will get annoying messages from sjw's complaining its to violent and there to triggered to keep reading and he needs to censor it or change the page somehow, cuz sjw's suck like that

i want to avoid sjw's completely so how trggered can they be at the cartoony deaths i portray with silly faces of death, when amellia died on the previous page she also had a silly look on her face as she was dying

but in panel 1 of this page now that she is dead she has a serious dead look on her face now that the damage is done and it doesn't matter

ya know?

>>82787077
meaning?
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>>82776576
>>82785106

Damn this stuff really pops and I love looking at it.
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>>82787284

>>people getting killed in this project are meant to be taken kind of seriously...but not to seriously that people get triggered by it
>>im sure when the sisters guy gets famous enough he will get annoying messages from sjw's complaining its to violent and there to triggered to keep reading and he needs to censor it or change the page somehow, cuz sjw's suck like that

This is one really lame excuse for putting silly faces on characters dying, specially since there's a simple way of dealing with sjw complaints that makes everybody happy, and that is: you ignore them.

By the way

>>i want to avoid sjw's

You gave all your female characters sexy big boob bimbo type bodies, and you dressed them in bikinis for no reason. You are clearly on the wrong path to pander to sjws
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>>82787476
A bwuh...?
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What onomatopoeia would you use for a prolonged yawn?

Would "ya-aa-awn" suffice?
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>>82787284

almost done coloring the character, then ill just paint a quick background, add some word balloons and its done!

>>82787476
hmm... i see what you mean, but i really like drawing girls, and i really like drawing girls with big and or revealing boobs, so sjw's cant complain if im drawing it because i love drawing it and not to exploit my female characters or make a quick buck or get a ton of views off of them, ya know?

i dont draw my original girl characters as fan service or anything, its just the way i personally like drawing them

and i think sjw's and feminazi's will be completely understanding of this and wont even complain about it or mention it ever

i hope
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>>82755593
i love the body language here and i know nothing about the characters. paladin dude (?)'s reaction on panel five to all the bones is really subtle but telling.
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>>82787476
Don't be such a newfag, man.
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>>82783685
listen to criticisms that focus more on technical aspects; things you can view objectively. writing is a bit trickier here though.

don't ever use 'my style' as a response though, because that is a one way ticket to shitsville.
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>>82787881
A bwuh...?
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>>82783685
I ONLY want negative criticism of my comic. My goal is to make the best comic possible, and the only way anyone can do that is by putting their ego aside. I've received criticism in this thread about my comic that at first I went "well, fuck that guy, he doesn't know what he's talking about" but as time went on and I kept digesting it, I got to the real truth and heart of the matter and that very criticism that I hated ended up helping to improve my comic.

There are people in these threads that are so bull-headed they shut out all criticism because THEIR creative vision is THE perfect one and THEY know what the fans want and THOSE critics must be evil trolls, but in reality there are very few trolls in these threads and it's absurdly easy to separate trollposts from legitimate criticism (an overwhelming majority of critiques are legitimate, very very VERY few are trolls).

You want your comic to be good, right? Listen to criticism. Your hubris creates an artificial ceiling, and criticism gives you the humble hammer you need to smash through.
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>>82787841
>and i think sjw's and feminazi's will be completely understanding of this and wont even complain about it or mention it ever

implying sjw's and feminazis have been understanding or rational about anything... EVER...

are you completely new to the internet? or this life?

mfw
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>>82787946
A bwuh...?
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>>82787841

uh, its almost done, but there needs to be way more blood on the page than this, which might mess it up, so this is what it looks like before the consistency of page by page accuracy kicks in..
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>>82787981
why have you said this 3 times? is it a new thread meme or something?

inb4 "A bwuh...?"
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>>82788315
I think he's trying to tell you to stop replying to bones. Protip: it's futile
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>>82788351
A bwuh...?
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>>82781846
Are there any that feature brown guys?
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>>82785272
Thanks!

>>82785427
Maybe a relaxed 2 hours per page. I'm still figuring out how the framing shadows thing works, so it oughta pick up after that.

>>82787339
Thanks! I'm debating having the comic be in more of a limited palette like it was in the earlier issues, and with the heavy shadows, it might actually work again.
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>>82788265

i think the page art is done... im not going to shade this page, think it will be to much of a distraction from the action of this page and the word balloons, but i will shade it when im done with the word balloons just to see....

>>82788483
"Demon Juice witch fire" does and the next chapter of DEMON JUICE will make bianca bayou(a super hot brown girl with green hair) the new and possibly permanent main character of demon juice
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>>82788483
>>82788676

OH, brown guys, woops, the sisters main bad guy conrad was a brown guy, other than that i dont think so

sorry i thought that said brown girls for smoe reason, woops!
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>>82788702

for some reason*
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>>82788702
> only one black guy in all of /hyw/
>he's a criminal

tsk tsk
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>>82783685
As long as you don't respond like a dick, or start a hundred post long chain of replies after you've been a bit of a dick (it happens), you should be fine.
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tfw your comic always gets shit on
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>>82788676

AND ITS DONE, I HOPE YALL LIKE IT! More pages here: http://fates.thecomicseries.com/

feels good man

also video super related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yfr_Zj1iU4
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>>82789324
Please don't use smudge backgrounds, it's disgusting
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>>82789256
Solution: become a scat fetishist
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>>82789001
If I didn't know any better I'd say you were talking about someone specifically.
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>>82789378
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>>82788734

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
no.

black guy is completely different than brown guy, one of the main characters of demon juice is a black guy, he is half human and half demon, but was born and raised in the hood as a black dude with a black family

his powers are red fire, red fire armor, and has red fire spear and is the only fire knight with wings since the red fire god is a giant red dragon

the sisters conrad is mexican? indian? arabic? egyptian? brazillian? portarican?

brown skins can be anything, even Hawaiian

but the red fire knight is straight up a black dude from the hood
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>>82789392
It's happened other places I've been. Scribs is tame by comparison. But yeah, there's a reason he gets more shit than dewd or coldfusion.
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>>82789565
>there's a reason
Yeah: A chatroom.
You had to be there.
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>>82789988
A lot of us weren't. I wasn't. And you responded to me.

Gotta say in advance I won't be keeping up my end of a long conversation. Gotta unload a truck.
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>>82790057
>I wasn't. And you responded to me.
Well you weren't the catalyst either, were you?
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>>82789988

Or in any of these threads. You are your own worst enemy. Be lucky you never get famous because you'll have an online meltdown.

Think about where you are, a minor thread on a board that isn't even that popular peddling a comic nobody reads or cares about. And you make it seem like you're some political candidate getting hit by smear campaigns.

Can't even take random people giving you shit. Stay at the bottom. It's for your own good.
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>>82790064
>>82790546
>100 replies later...
Don't do it, friends.
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>>82763124
Nothing but cute.
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>>82790546
Got a comic anon?
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>>82790546
Don't reply to Scribblehatch.
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>>82790612
The last threads to do so have been fine.
This is just vengeful claptrap now.
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>>82790558

Your best bet is if he leaves and never comes back. I don't even know why he's here. He doesn't help, he always puts things to to shit, and he never listens or learns. He's a masochist and this stuff keeps him alive.

>>82790597

It doesn't even matter.
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>>82789324

fixed panel 6! forgot to draw armadillos black cape

you can see the fixed page here: http://fates.thecomicseries.com/

also on deviantart and the main website
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>>82790652
>I don't even know why he's here.
>this stuff keeps him alive.
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>>82790652
>>82790546
Musn't bully.

None bully.

>>82790678
Yeah this guy has a point. Two things can be true at the same point but not those two.
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>>82790678

An educated guess. I'm sure there's a deeper, more complex reason. Maybe he had a rough upbringing and when his parents died in a fire suspiciously he came to miss the feeling of resentment sent his way. So he comes here for his daily dose of hate. Sometimes he posts shit talking to himself as anon, then puts his trip on argues with himself.

Maybe he doesn't even realize it and he has a split personality. Maybe he thinks people actually like him. Maybe he thinks that people hate him for reasons out of his control.

There's definitely delusion in there. I need to keep reading his posts to see deeper into his psyche.
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>>82790721
I like the flow you've got going in this page!
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I sure do love watching the same argument unfold in every thread!
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>>82790748
Or you're just being a shitbag who is demonstrably acting much worse than he is in every single thread he's in. For example look at this one. How many words have you typed just now?
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>>82790793
Report trolls and shitposts because this isn't /b/
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>>82774166
Thanks! I use Manga studio for the screen tones, which is a hell of a lot easier than getting the actual sheets. I recommend it. Would definitely like to see your pencils closer up-they look pretty good in the pic.
>>82787873
Body language is something I always worry about, so I'm glad it's coming across well. Thanks.
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>>82790816
You're the worst poster in this thread aside from bones. And not by much.
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>>82790596
Are those girls all still pregnant?
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>>82791491
I'm pretty sure that's the point of the comic, Anon.
That's like asking if Superman's still stopping crimes.
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>>82763124
a cutie that is going to show up in my comic soon.

she's an eel mermaid that can create static charges which she uses to power her artificial legs.
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>>82792348
Are those legs mechanical or magical?
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>>82792460
mechagical
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>>82792348
I feel like she'd read better if you made the transformation from woman to eel more gradual and didn't cover it up with the belt.
I also feel like the bellybutton is a smidge too low. Try raising it up by like, half its height (where does a mermaid get a bellybutton from?).
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>>82792460
Magitek.
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>>82792542
thanks for the suggestions! made her tail more cohesive.
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Part 3 of The Sisters teaser collage thing. Now for some color. Might toss the B&W ones somewhere, cause they've got their own nice appeal.

Pt.1 >>82776576
Pt.2 >>82785106
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>>82790596
Dang, are you going to be inking over the first panel? It looks so smooth and excellent.
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>>82784242
there's no forcing it, but when it shows up, you've gotta drop everything else and manically write as much as you can while you're in that mode. don't censor any of it, you can do that later when that mode's run out
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>>82794483
>>82791491
Yes.
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>>82785871
the spiky ones? i liked em. if you mean the big square ones, hell no.
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>>82786451
it's just good not to take credit if you didnt do something intentionally. if you change your mind later it looks like a renege
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Addendum, I have worked without inking but I think it works better with more fantastical stuff.
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>>82787728
>eh eeawwwwhhhh
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>>82792542
traditional mermaids have a strong demarcation
>>82792666
but this looks cute too!

as for a bellybutton, you know the yolk sac attaches right where an umbilical cord does. i imagine a mermaid egg is a lot like a placenta inside. and that's if they don't give live birth. which they probably do. either way they nurse afterwards.
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>>82794402
i'm like, hearing the theme song starting up. it's composed by brad breeck and has heavy use of steel guitar. and every tenth note or so, it goes offkey in a way that disturbs you
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>>82794842
I feel like you could just make those underlines darker and clean them up very slightly and it'd be a real enhancement in style. The expressions have more nuance.

That's just my MO, though.
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>>82795285
Coloring it is a pain in the ass.
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>>82795285
I agree. The inks take all the life out of what are actually very good drawings.
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>>82795367
Oh, it's actual pencil scans? That's fair enough. I just go for multiply with those but the overlaps in multiply layers do need a lot of cleaning up. Maybe try inking with thinner lines, though, they suit your style well.
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>when your patreon sits embarrassingly at $0 for months and you consider deleting it all
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>>82792348
>>82792666
That's actually really cute
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>>82795765
Hi Dewd.
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>>82796822
Stop.
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>>82795765
So even Dobson is more successful than you
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>>82795929
thanks!
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>>82797188
he's more successful than anyone in these threads
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>>82797649
Actually >>82790596 makes more money than Dobby.
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>>82797703
As it should be, thank the lords of webcomic.
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>>82797649
>tfw still get less than dobby.

Eh, you know what, I don't care anymore.
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>>82798253
Yeah you do. If you truly didn't care you wouldn't have bothered to respond.
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>>82797703
So fetish/porn is the way to go for patreon bux?
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Decided to switch which comic is going up this week. I reworked the comic about art I posted a while ago. I think it's less aimless now and less confusing as it omits the weird line about "not beating the chinese". Shame since hearing that sentiment irl is one of the weirdest things that ever happened to me but whatever. Sorry it's just more thumbnails for now.
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>>82800062

Not exactly - there's less competition in any given fetish community than in mainstream illustration, but conversely, there's less money to go around. Try to find a pond that's the right size for your fish.

>>82800383
For what it's worth, I thought the line about beating the Chinese made perfect sense.
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>>82800383
>>82800482
Now I'm curious what the line was and how it fit.
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>>82800520
The guy criticized Mimi's drawing and told her she would never beat the Chinese. It's a "chinese cartoons" reference.
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>>82797649
>>82797703
>>82798253
Stop bringing stuff like that up.

It sets a terrible precedent to even tolerate it.
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>>82800520
The comic is based on something that happened to me. A guy in a starbucks told me to quit art because "I'll never beat the chinese". I think he what he was getting at was the idea that everything is made in China on top of assuming that comics, anime and manga are all the same thing (and made in china). The guys first language was also not english.
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>>82800482
It made sense to some people I showed it to but imo it felt really awkward. Maybe I'll make a comic about the actual event in the future.
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>>82800685
I'd want to use that line too if I heard it. But yeah, not sure it would mesh with your current punchline.
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>>82800685
that guy wants to fuck
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>>82800928
For what it's worth, the original punchline was the art being offended and walking away. Having the art punch the guy in the face is funnier though. I am concerned that people may think it's one of those "getting back at the haters" kind of comics though.
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How's this cat?
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is having my fantasy protagonist act like the average player in a TES game for ages until i decide to actually reveal that they and their friends are speshul and get to save the world a bad idea?

it's mostly an excuse for worldbuilding and possibly buying time until i think through the proper story.
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>>82801351
You mean just doing sidequests and exploring the world?
It's fine so long as the story that IS happening is interesting.
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>>82760615
Nope.
My issue isn't entirely with the ads themselves, but with the various datamining networks they're linked to. Internet advertising is a hellish beast and I want it starved. Unfortunately content creators who aren't creative in how they're funded are caught in the crossfire. Hopefully if enough people take to it [a] ad companies will die or [b] they'll shape up and improve their behaviour.

I doubt the latter though, most people take issue with the most obvious problem - flashy adverts and PLAY NOW MY LORD, instead of the more insidious problem.

Not to mention the massive ethical questions advertising tends to bring up - "Think of me as Evil" is a pretty interesting read:
http://assets.wwf.org.uk/downloads/think_of_me_as_evil.pdf

>The truth is that marketing raises enormous ethical questions every day—at least it does if you’re doing it right. If this were not the case, the only possible explanations are either that you believe marketers are too ineffectual to make any difference, or you believe that marketing activities only affect people at the level of conscious argument
>Neither of these possibilities appeals to me. I would rather be thought of as evil than useless.
- Rory Sutherland [Written in his former capacity as President of the Institute of Practitioners in Advertising (IPA)]
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>>82801428
>You mean just doing sidequests and exploring the world?
yeah basically.

i'm a bad judge of when people will get tired of relatively inconsequential shenanigans though.
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>>82800667
Don't be mad just because a pregnancy fetish artist is making more money than you.
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>>82801659
>when people will get tired of relatively inconsequential shenanigans
That 100% depends on how good you are at writing said shenanigans.
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>>82801659
I think you can keep that one up pretty much forever so long as the inconsequential shenanigans are well executed. Like, a lot of comics are nothing but inconsequential shenanigans.
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Page 7. Nothing too special since this is just a "dialogue" page. At least now a goal is established
Anyhow, it looks like people have been enjoying the current chapter that's on the site. which is nice to read; I noticed I get more comments in the second half of chapters once things get more frantic and the pace picks up

>>82753924
Fantastic action sequence.

>>82755593
They look good; drawing piles of anything as always hard

>>82785106
Looks like your composition is getting even better, if that was possible. Great job!

>>82787939
Yeah, it's good for people to be harsh on you
Those who want to listen will improve while those who don't will argue against the critique and retreat to their safe space.
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My writer went to a local comic-con and brought this back with him. The first ever fanart for Apophenia!
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>>82802071
>forgot the image

this happens way too often
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