>Post ideas, art, comics you've done
>Share your website/portfolio
>Ask for critique, information, or advice on writing or drawing
>Do some fanart for someone if you feel so inclined.
>Do some exercises. It'll be fun
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Let’s start of the list with a useful guide for PANEL LAYOUT:
http://innerspace.notonigon.com/?p=8
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/
>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed
>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
PEOPLE: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/
>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)
>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#
>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.
rizon network #webcomic is also a chatroom
Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo [Embed]
Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
Comic Script: Plot to Outline
http://rocketbot.com/tutorials/626/writing-a-comic-script-from-plot-to-outline-to-final-draft
>>77362855
bump
Finished the next script of the Sisters.
thesisters-comic.com
tapastic.com/series/The-Sisters
"The Monster" is gonna be a nice rollercoaster. Been a bit since we had some proper action going on. Plenty of that this issue, as well as a slight code towards the end which isn't hard to figure out but people might like. Emotions are gonna run wild, people are getting angry.
I'm happy. Starts Friday.
How you guys doing?
WIP of the next page!
>>77363512
Been better, need to get my shit organised to I might put my comic on hold for a bit, maybe.
You should update the Archives on your comics tumblr's though, just so that readers who are catching up don't need to click the Previous link until they get to where they left off
>>77363742
Baloon tail going the wrong way in panel 2
Are any UK anons going to Thought Bubble 2015 in Leeds this weekend?
>>77363898
>Update archives
Yeah, been meaning to do that. Maybe later today. Most of our hits come from tapastic now, so I can openly admit I lost focus on updating those archives.
I'll get it done by Friday at the latest. Should be getting around to getting a new site in a month or two as well, one that's a bit nicer than a tumblr.
Here's a rough sketch from the little "Social Media" side-project we're doing with the Sisters.
A point to anyone who can decipher the costumes.
>>77363942
>Most of our hits come from tapastic now, so I can openly admit I lost focus on updating those archives.
I've been meaning to get onto that as well, perhaps once I finish uploading the entirety of the current chapter on my own site
How intuitive is it? I tend to be rather inept with social media, I tend get around but I always find it frustrating when learning how to post/upload on a new site
Also minor dialogue mistake I noticed as I was catching up on your comic: on your Oct 22 update, Handsome Dan says "Your sister's been trying been trying to reach you [...]". Not really a big deal, but I figured maybe I'd want to know if if you ever have the time to fix it
>>77363742
Why is Jack apologizing to himself?
>>77363915
Yes. Table 124 in New Dock Hall. With a new comic out if everything goes smoothly:
> Sending issue #3 of comic to printers; Copy&Paste and edit old email. 3 weeks should be plenty of time.
> Forget about it for a week.
> Send reminder email to printers as haven't heard back properly yet.
> Printer tells me the link to download the file doesn't work.
> It's for issue #1.
> Send link to issue #3.
> Printer sends back a pdf for checking.
> I sent them a link to the wrong version of issue #3.
> Send back link to right version of issue #3, telling them to discard the previous one.
> Printer sends back a pdf for checking.
> It's all good, give them the green light to proceed.
> Now we wait.
I'm fairly confident that my printer will come through, as he specialises in printing comics, regularly visits comic conventions, and will personally deliver to people's tables at the con if necessary (as he did with issue #2 at last year's Thought Bubble). Ideally I'll have it by Thursday morning so I can check and prep them properly, but as long as I get them for the con it'll be OK.
If you're a UK anon who hasn't been to Thought Bubble, then seriously consider going. Unlike other "comic" conventions which are really pop culture multi-media affairs, TB really is all about the comics.
>>77363989
Ah jeeze. That is embarrassing. I'll see that gets patched up.
Tapastic is pretty intuitive. Just hit preview to make sure your pages are in the right order and all's good. I enjoy the scroll-to-read, it is a nice feature.
What's your comic, anon? I'll read it when I wake up tonight.
http://www.chaosinthetropics.com
Beat 16 is underway. It's gonna be a doozy.
>>77364056
>What's your comic, anon? I'll read it when I wake up tonight.
No worries; I'm green knight guy.
I'm assuming the next chapter will revolve mainly around Beatrice; tell your artist to keep up the awesome work!
>>77364004
Damn it, wrong way on the arrow.
Sorry, was making this at midnight
>>77366392
Wow, this thread is dead!
>>77366561
Strangely so.
It's usually never this dead.Que token asshole who suggests we stop making threads for awhile because of it. Every time, that guy.
yo.
>>77366561
>>77366650
well the last one died and a lot of us just woke up, so
>>77366561
>>77366650
It's just the slow hours now. Mid-week and it's only around noon in the US east coast, west coast still being in the AM. Dunno about Euroland though.
So now I put the dialogues, how bad am I doing doc?
>>77367735
I feel like I've asked you if you had a skype before and you said no.
>>77368076
Then why you ask him again?
>>77367735
I never put dialogue in until the rest of the page is finished myself.
>>77368126
Because I could be fuckin mistaken now couldn't I.
>>77368076
Scibby, what's the point of networking if you keep acting like a bipolar maniac on skype?
You are too unstable to be a pillar of any community. Just pass the mantle, dude.
>>77367735
I really think some of you non-native English speakers really need a native speaker to proofread your dialogue a bit before you post some of these pages.
I mean, this isn't too bad really, but over all it feels kinda clunky.
In your second panel, the first box you have "Lufty" I'm assuming you mean "Lofty." In the box right next to it
>None of it seen real to me
I assume you mean "seems" or "seemed." Seemed is probably what you're looking for, but you continually switch from past tense to present tense, so I am not totally sure which you are going for.
Also, the cluster of boxes about halfway down, starting with
>You didn't merely influence these artifacts
The five dialogue boxes are a little cramped. I actually wasn't totally sure at first which box I was supposed to read next. You might want to find a way to try to space that out a little better.
Minor thing, but I'm also not totally sure why you suddenly switch from boxes with tails to more rounded bubbles.
I mean, the story overall makes sense, and it is reasonably interesting, and your art, as usually is pretty sweet too, so...just some thoughts.
>>77368389
>I really think some of you non-native English speakers really need a native speaker to proofread your dialogue a bit before you post some of these pages.
That is why we are here, It better to get friend/strangers to help you make a perfect comic.
>>77368474
There's no need to facepalm. I feel like it is about 85~90% of the way to where it needs to be.
I understand what is going on (that's the important thing) and the dialogue is more interesting and better than some of the other non-natives here, it just seems a little stilted in some areas.
>>77368529
Sorry, I going to used this,
>>77368322
Stop doing this thing you're doing.
Nobody get to see my new cover page.
>>77363512
Hey, illustration looks smooth and the character designs overall are relatable. Pretty good! I especially like the stylization you got going on in there.
I have a couple of questions.
I had an idea for a character who can control time, and he would use this power to stop people in time, maybe accelerate time as well.
But whats a good way to show off that someone is frozen in time? Seems like its hard to pull off in a comic, since pictures don't move anyway.
Also I had this other idea for a comic, its going to feature robots versus Kaijus
Only thing is its humans actually turning into the robots to fight monsters.
Has this been done before? I was thinking they could be sort of organic or maybe magical robots.
But I don't quite know yet how to make this work.
>>77369134
>I had an idea for a character who can control time, and he would use this power to stop people in time
DIOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
>>77369134
I've always liked 'everyone frozen goes black and white' as a visual cue. or if it is already, you could lighten everyone frozen.
>>77369158
>not GULDO
kids these days.
>>77369267
But, You have to hold your breath to do that.
>>77369134
>whats a good way to show off that someone is frozen in time?
An utter absence of motion lines for one; also no speech or thought balloons.
Holding the same static pose for several consecutive panels. Particularly if they were mid-step, or jumping, or otherwise off balance when it happened.
They drop something at the moment they're frozen, and it's suspended in time/mid-air with them (especially if it's a liquid).
>>77362811
I have this idea I've been kicking around for a while but will never do cause i have no talent.
People with various super powers exist but none of them to an over powered degree. To put it in context something like "Spiderman" would be overall stronger than any of the people with special abilities in this world and mind control/mind reading does not exist either (that is key).
So the plot is this. Of the few people that have these abilities the government decides "why not use them and make them special agents for us to help with disasters, crime, ect". The identities are of course kept topic secret per usual as are the powers of each as much as possible.
Anyway like I said these characters are not over powered and to try to reduce the issue of them dying on the job they are offered side kicks. These are not people with powers but people who went to special training academies. Often Ivy league recruits to even get in. Each person is different but generally they excel at security, weaponry and such.
After an applicant graduates they can choose to work for a hero.
Anyway the plot is this. A side kick that graduated just about top of his class has been working with one of the most successful, powerful and loved heros in the country for the past 5 years or so. He is one of the only people that knows the full details of his powers, personal life, ect. He even invented some things himself to great effect and is seen one of the true geniuses among his peers.
He walks in one morning to the secret base noticing all the security is down and doors unlocked and finds the hero dead in a bloody mess on the floor.
He calls the organization to inform them of this and an investigation immediately starts. Soon he is treated like the lead suspect as all the evidence points to him. However, some things he knows about this hero are not so squeaky clean and he starts his own investigation to clear his name before it is too late.
>>77369739
at flrst i was like meh
but seeing that it's gonna be from the POV of a sidekick, that intrigues me
and then.. shit, moider mystery. That's neat. Though it almost makes the rest irrelevant... but go with it!
>>77368076
You did! Although I said I basically don't use it, its mostly for family overseas. I also ask if you want to talk about anything specific, but the tread die.
>>77368389
Hey thanks man, this is really helpful. Although getting friend to look over your things... I don't know, sometimes I feel like I am bothering people. Posting in the thread usually means people only reply because they wanted to. Although I could ask friends who I collaborated with to help out.
>>77368160
Hm, the reason I put them on the storyboard and sketches, is so I can either trim them or move them around, or to change the art to accommodate it. Just something that is easier to see when its on the page. I am not page by page with this, so I can and trim or add pages if I feel like it needed it.
>>77369796
Thank you. The world does become important though and plays a big part in the plot.
I guess I will spoil it since i won't write it every do the comic anyway :P
First he and the government go through the list of enemies the hero has but none of them did it and that can be proven. The side kick then turns to his personal life and talked to a female super hero he knows the deceased was having an affair with but that seems like a dead end.
However at this point his own personal investigation is brought to a halt when he himself is brought in for questioning. The report comes back that all the security was properly in place. No one broke in. Therefore whoever did the killing had to know all about the security system in place. That is something only those at the very top of this organization and the hero/sidekick should know. Also physical evidence at the crime scene points to him. He knows he is about to be arrested and uses a device he made to escape though with great difficulty.
Man hunt is on and he is America's most wanted over night. More to come.
Now he is suspect
>>77369796
Now he is suspect #1 :P
He grabs gear from his secret stash and uses it to go into hiding trying to investigate what really happened. First he looks into the organization and after finding several seedy problems but nothing that leads to a who actually killed him. Anyone long story short...
It was the side kick of the super hero the dead hero was having an affair with. the female super hero knew the security cause they would sneak in there to actually have the affair sometimes and her side kick learned in from following her in secret. She was in love with her and hoped killing him would make it possible for them to be together somehow. Doesn't work out. She almost kills female super hero too but the side kick saves the day and also exposes the organization after for covering up details of the murder for various reasons.
Female side kick goes to the mad house and he is able to continue his post once more as a side kick but decides not to cause the system sucks and is broken and goes into doing hero duty himself to great success.
>>77370249
good story. might turn out gewd
Are random themes' webcomics with no particular storyline still relevant? Or is it saturated with memes and shit?
>>77370725
you have to pour on the charm, but you can still do comics like that
>>77370857
Capitalize and punctuate your sentences!
>>77368322
Tiny pls
>>77371301
stop capitalizing and punctuating yours
Brand new Will Draw for Food, heated up and made microwave fresh, just for you, /co/!
Always early, and always free.Come at me, Tumblr.
>>77371665
Meh.
>>77371665
HAhahahaha that last panel.
free? you hear that?
>throws the comic out the window
you're free, comic!
>>77371699
FREEDOM!
>>77371665
Needs an additional panel where she just says he's an ugly girl
Let's post our characters sheets, sketch and stuff
>>77371928
this is really neat stuff. I just feel like the placement of eyes and nose needs tweaking in... every shot except the left group, third row down, furthest to the right (looking slightly upward). and maybe the profile shot to its left too.
>>77362811
>Have great idea in shower
>Sit down to write it out
>(Haha! Sorry Anon, memory isn't here right now. Leave a message at the )
!FLICK!
>>77373014
get back in the shower, quick! no time to lose!
>yfw you start eating into your buffer and you have no idea when or even if you will be able to replenish it
>>77369267
>not GULDO
>kids these days
Are you serious? Dio (1987) was in b4 Guldo (1990), baka
Lazy artist-less writer here.
Which should I check and ask for reviews first, characters or storylines?
I feel that once you have your characters and themes nailed down the plot comes naturally.
>>77375094
In my experience as a writer, characters and storylines develop hand in hand. You come up with the basics for the characters, and then the stories start to come naturally, and as you explore those stories, the characters grow from their experiences, and with this new character growth you can discover more stories to write, and so on and so forth. It's a wonderful cycle.
>>77375094
>See the people opinions
>Tried to improve in them
>Don't be a asshole.
There! It is rather easy to do. Treat your stories like a hobby.
>>77374960
yeah but jojo wasnt a thing with anyone til recently.
does the coloring on this tree look weird or is it fine?
i was following that one desaturation-shading tutorial posted in the last thread.
>>77375337
lol forgot pic.
>>77375373
It looks like an angry face.
>>77375328
>yeah but jojo wasnt a thing with anyone til recently.
You really don't know about the jojo fanbase or series?
>>77375328
Not really, JoJo's been a thing with a lot of people since stuff like the Capcom fighter and OVA and hell the manga in general for Japan which had and still has a lot of influence on other works.
You might only be noticing it now because of the anime, but that's not how it works.
www.wondercomcis.org/hot006
Tell me what you think.
>>77375979
Good job spelling the URL properly, buddy.
>>77375999
Yeah, I realized that right after I posted, but this "must wait longer before deleting" bullshit is keeping me from fixing it. For a simple copy/paste:
www.wondercomics.org/hot006
updaaaate
http://robboquest.tumblr.com/
>>77375373
that's just the right color for shading.
as for the choice of shadows and shapes.. ehh..
>>77375922
how is that not how it works?
more to the point, how could you possibly convince me otherwise, since anything you told me would be me just now noticing what you said
another character based on a friend of mine.
this time it's one I never talk to anymore but miss a lot!she got married and got fat, just as ice king said she would
Been drawing random fight scenes from my comic, trying to improve my ability. How's this look?
(The real thing will be in color.)
>>77376524
http://www.slideshare.net/bruno13marques/how-to-draw-manga-vol-23-illustrating-battles
this should be right up your ally mcbeal
>>77375328
What are you talking about? Jojo was my thing since i first played the capcom fighter and found it it was based on a manga.
This recent surge in popularity was nothing but up for me really.
>>77376674
Thanks man, this looks good.
only nine pages left to go
also i finally bought a domain...
poodledooples.com
>>77377714
>Bible
You are going to make a harmless christian joke?
>>77377894
I think that's more of a motel joke
there's some good shit in there though. iunno about you but parts of ezekiel get me hot
b'ump
>>77362811
Any tips on writing alternate history?
>>77380307
>Look through your local library
>Find a history book.
>Open the book.
>Proceed to shit on the interior of the book.
>Spitefully say, "Fuck you... I'ma make muh own muthafuckin' history."
How do you guys feel about reusing characters you already had in one story, and putting them in a completely different story; Similar to Tezuka's "Star System"?
>>77380718
Go for it.
>>77380718
Personally, I'm not a big fan of it. but I can respect Tezuka's philosophy on it. They're like actors for different roles. It's a personal preference thing I think, but really only seen in classic anime/ manga.
Rumiko Takahashi (Inuyasha, Ranma 1/2, Rin-Ne, Maisson Ikokku) does it too.
>>77380718
Nobody going to judge.
Call it a reboot.
Brand new and fresh! Will Draw for Food on your doorstep, every morning at 9! Leave out for collection in the evening!Let's be honest, we're all guilty of this.
So I started this thing the other day. Wanted to get some more people suggesting things so I can pick up the pace with how many pages I can put out.
http://mspaforums.com/showthread.php?60521-The-Squire
Just finished the first chapter
http://cnwol.tumblr.com/post/132125273326
>>77380307
>read a lot of history
>pic related
>???????
>profit
>>77380718
I was actually talking with a friend to collaborate and create characters for that.
My pet projects kept me from building a decently sized cast, though.
>>77380954
I love the character design and the gif work. Not too sure about the scratchiness.
>>77381075
I'll clean it up and iron it out as I go. All the newer, not yet introduced designs are much cleaner than the originals. The gif you're looking at there is literally the second gif I've ever made.
How do you guys get in the zone to write? I'm stuggling with major writers block right now.
>inb4 just write anyways
>>77372214
thanks, I will try to be more consistent.
I'm going for something more sketch like, I know its not excuse, but it makes me be a little bit inconsistent
What do you do when you want to kiss your own character?
>>77380307
Narrow down your workload by figuring out the location and rough period of influence you'll be writing about.
Watch documentaries about the time and place, and any other places or points with significant influence on it.
The rest technically does itself since anyone familiar with history can just fill in the gaps with a few swift references made on your part, trust me it's better to simply mention X politician or Y monarch doing this or that at the time in passing than to try to write that event as a scene and butcher it with unnatural characterization. This way anyone who has their own interpretation of the figures of the time will do the imagining for you instead of being put off that you see one person or another in a certain positive or negative light.
This is a kind of strange piece of advice but I also find it helps to forget what time period you're writing in, your characters come off more natural if they're not doing that thing Bojack made a joke about where they're always reminding the audience what specific time period it is by talking a certain way or some other such forced narrative. A reference to an existing person isn't so bad since it could be relevant to the character's associates, but talking about some specific event like it's already happened and the significance is from a modern view is off putting. For example a documentary I watched made it known to me that at the time no one knew during the first World War that it would be as long or problematic as it was, we do so we can wax on about that, but a character at the time would most likely just be baffled as the people at the time were with the unfolding events. Hell, they even got used to it eventually so really it's only because we look back from our world now do we have the reaction we do.
tl;dr forget you're writing history and just write in the moment.
>Be artist
>Shittalk writers for years
>Start writing
>It's actually pretty challenging
>>77381442
Your welcome.
>>77381239
I've found that just stringing shit together on a page helps me get started.
>>77381399
Cry.
>>77381442
>Be artist and writer.
>Got terrible grammar.
>>77363233
Hwem qhh dqpgu!
Question, /co/mrades.
Would you a Will Draw for Food shirt?
Because I would a Will Draw for Food shirt.
>>77381692
Why do so many webcomic artist think we want to buy shirts with their characters on them?? Fuck no. I want a well designed tee, man!
>>77380718
i'm cool with cameos. but most of the time, characters meant to pull their own story are going to steal the spotlight if they show up in another story, and you don't want that
but if you're just reusing designs, yeah of course. everyone does that.
>>77380887
i can leave the garbage forever, continuing to try to stuff more and more in, until i accidentally put in some onion pieces without wrapping them first and it starts to reek badly enough to wake me up at night,
but dishes? helll no. gotta eat. using my favorite dishes is an obsession i can't avoid.. if i run out and have to start using less than ideal dishes, it grates on me. it grides.
>>77381767
It's merchandising man, helps us to pay the bills and make sure our next meal is hot.
Plus, I've seen some greatly designed tees with webcomic characters on them.
>>77362816
that rocketbot link on outlines to final drafts doesnt work.
>>77380961
i'm surprised this isn't getting more attention. i guess maybe if you'd made it 10 years ago, that would have been the prime time for it. but in any case you're doing better than the people back then did.
i wish i could find this adventure time fancomic this guy did.. it was amazing, dead-on... and short, and now lost it seems.
>>77381811
But anon. How many pizza boxes can you fit into one garbage can?
Sure not a lot.
![MakeyOuty[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Q60jDUX.png "MakeyOuty[1].png")
>>77381399
>>77381709
well you're in luckbecause you're going to have a lot of unsold merchandise
naw i kid
but realistically i dunno how good an idea that is.
>>77381850
i flatten them out and roll them up into thin rods.. i can fit many.how much delivery pizza do you think i eat? jeez. i'm not made of money. and even when papperjams gives me a ton of free pizz points, i still need to space them out with some expensive avocados to avoid heart failure
>>77381692
I could see people buying a shirt with a carboard sign that had "Will draw for food" and cute little doodles made with a sharpie on it, but not so much for the design you posted.
>>77381927
Haha, I hear ya. I'm doing it through RedBubble though, so I never have to worry about inventory.
Even if just one t-shirt sells, I'll be happy.
Anyways, it will be really good to have on hand once WDFF gets big. Gets setting it all up out of the way.
>>77381948
My room mate works for Dominoes and brings home extra pizzas all the time. My view of the world's intake of pizza is tragically, yet comically skewed.
>>77381829
I compared it to links from previous threads. Seems to be a dead end. We should remember to remove it in the next HYW. Also, why can't OP just link the previous thread?
Maybe we should also stock the Goodie Bag. Anyone got some good ressources, guides, helpful pages? Let's make HYW a little better. I'm kinda annoyed by the current HYW threads, to be bluntly honest. It turned into 90% advertisement and 10% shitposting. I miss the discussions of the old threads.
>>77381981
you lucky bastage
>>77382030
we used to link the previous threads.. i forget why we stopped
aside from direct links to how-to-draw guides, i've got no specific ideas. I feel like these lists are too numerous for anyone to reasonably search through, yet to remove anything would be to screw over one of the many vital parts of the process
>>77382030
Links to the /ic/ resources couldn't hurt.
>>77381787
I was actually planning them be the main characters of these two stories, though that would potentially be distracting if any development in the earlier story is seemingly erased if they get carried over to a different story
>>77371665
Okay, I laughed.
>>77380718
I did like that when i was a kid, but dropped it for no reason when i grew up. Maybe those shitty characters were not strong enough, but i don't see any problem with it.
>>77382123
This is the best idea I've seen all year.
/ic/ may be a den of shitposting, but the resources they have are pretty fucking solid.we're also a den of shitposting desu baka senpai
Slow but there's some progress. Here's a peak at issue 4's cover.
>>77381239
Hey I just defeated writer's block yesterday and I did it by forcing myself to continue this one scene by writing something awful that would advance the plot but over-explain everything, but it helped because all I had to do after that was turn the dialogue a bit more natural and deleted some of the over-explaining and what I was left with was a scene that was clear and took the story forward.
>>77384822
Pretty decent illustration bro! I wish you all the energy to finish the comic. How long is it gonna be ? Where can u read issues 1-3?
Someone should add the Discord channel to the sticky.
https://discordapp.com/
Instant invite link -> https://discord.gg/0ckxsOeUFTo5nffO
>>77380961
I actually apreciate how you tried with best of your abilities to emulate the style of the two shows.
Like someone else said, this would have probably been real popular in the PPGD days, though now the fanbase for this kind of thing has dwindled down.
>>77381399
>Wanting to kiss your daughter
GROSS!
>>77381442
Writing is hard bro. There's been times where I've sat in front of a layout for an hour without laying my pencil on the paper because I didn't know how to write the scene I wanted without it dragging for three times the intended length.
>>77384898
For me there are times where I can get in the "zone" for writing. Either on train when commuting to work or about an hour in bed before going to sleep
>>77384926
Thanks! It's planned to be pretty long. You can read it at Facebook dot com slash spiritlegends and there are the first two issues animated on there as well
>>77385231
Yeah there's times when writing is easier. But I think writing is all about learning the steps to get in to the zone no matter how uninspired one feels at the moment. It's a skill that can be learned.
>>77385394
Plan the ending. Don't make it too long. Just saying this because the experience of finishing a story is the most rewarding and valuable things about storytelling and many webcomic artists have difficulties finishing their comics because it takes a lot of work and the script blows in to a 1000 pages long epic and the artist never gets to try all the other ideas and uses all his creative energy on a single project. Not saying you're doing it right now but just consider it. Otherwise, I'm impressed how far you've gotten with the comic.
Edit the story and plan the date it finishes. Trust me its worth it in the long run.
>>77381442
Just like art, writing is a skill that can take years to properly develop. In a comic, writing and art go hand in hand, elevating each other.
>>77385782
Yeah, people who have never tried making comics tend to have a real hard time understanding that writing is a skill you develop much like any art.
One of my earlier chapter is a wordy-as-fuck expo-dump because I didn't really know what to prioritize.
>>77386346
I think we should talk about writing in this thread more often. I would give anything to go back in time and slap myself for not researching plot structure and learning to edit properly. I thought length was a good thing. I thought the ending would just work itself out once I get there. Or even worse -- something I tried to avoid ending the story because I thought you were supposed to keep going as long as there are more ideas I can come up with and endings are just a sign of running out of them. Also I never planned the theme or made drafts. Man. No wonder I almost never finished anything. What saved me was short stories. I started valuing them and realized that they aren't any easier than longer stories. And that's when I started studying if there was some kind of a trick or technique to learn. I feel like that is when I truly started this hobby.
I posted here a few days ago and got some nice feedback. This morning I said 'fuck it' and scratched out a comic. It looks horrible because I haven't drawn in a while with paper, and I took the picture with my camera phoneI feel so ghetto.
>>77387137
I don't think there's a problem with not having a clear end in mind for your comic as long as you have a good structure within the different story arcs. There are lots of good comics and manga that are carried by an interesting protagonist who gets thrown into a bunch of story arcs that can basically be structured like standalone short stories, but are connected by an overarching plot and theme that is not even close to ending anytime soon.
>>77381831
I actually just started it about a month ago and only made the tumblr for it in the last week so that's probably the main reason no one knows about it. I haven't really been advertising it either so really only my deviantart watchers have seen it. I've been really hesitant about putting it out there, else I would storytime it or something.
The PPG fandom is still surprisingly big, and Cartoon Network just put out a bunch of crossover comics with the characters (which is what convinced me to do my series, actually).
>>77385231
So many problems in my life could have been solved had I been 21 when I was 11, anon.
On the subject of writing, before this comic I've always tried to take a "write as you go" approach and leave the ending for later and it does NOT work. Writers block takes hold more easily if you don't know where you're going. In addition I think it's very important to consider the themes and ideas of your story so you can tell it more effectively/coherently and create a satisfying ending. Even if your webcomic is meant to be an ongoing epic spanning years, I would still have an ending in mind while doing it.
>>77381239
Just write anyways.
>>77384822
so THAT'S where Finn's original sword went after it went into the 4-dimensional portal. that makes sense.
>>77382030
I really want to begin writing my webcomic, and I've got a basic timeline of events but there are a lot of gaps and some of the things are too broad.
How do I turn that outline into something more cohesive, but more importantly, how do I take that cohesion and write it for a comic. Story boarding? Or is there another step between cohesive ideas and story boarding?
>>77386346
I just improvise. i know oftentimes it's crap but i always feel like 'if this was out loud, in an animation, it'd be praised as seinfeldian. it's just too bad they have to read it instead'
>>77387485
hahahahaha. that's cute. keep it up
>>77390572
Also, is it possible to overlore your settings? How do you know when you're entering hussie levels of lore clustsrfuck?
>>77390738
I think "Overlore" might be something along the lines of having your characters explain everything.
It can also be, like, if you have a bunch of technobabble/sci-fi/magic terms and diction that is just made up for your story. If you have a bunch of really crazy, weird, hard to pronounce/remember words, people might be intrigued at first, but after a while, it just gets hard to remember what is what.
>>77390572
well you have action down at least.
>>77376184
Look at everyone in this thread who was reading the comic before it became mainstream.
The only faggot here is you.
>>77391279
so you admit it wasn't mainstream yet. that's most of my point
>>77374960
While Dio Brando's first appearance was 1987, The World and its time stop powers weren't seen until 1992. Do you even Jump?
>>77391575
Please stop destroying my fake argument, would you?
>>77391575
>>77391622
i mean, i'm quite amenable to Za Warudo references, that shibboleths properly to me.
So, which is the best way to upload to tapastic? Page per page or wait until you have a bunch of pages?
>>77390452
>>77390792
That makes sense and I'll definitely keep that in mind as I write my stories. i guess Ill really need to be aware and attempt to get lore down in non expository ways, like a carving in an ancient ruin, I'm definitely going to try and have the religion of the world actually be a somewhat exaggerated version of what actually happened, and some parts need to be exposited through the oldking, but that will be a climax and hopefully forgivable.
>>77390946
Thank you!
>>77381239
Honestly, I just put my writing to the side until I feel like writing again, and then I do so. Fortunately my writing is so far ahead of the actual finished art of my comic that I could legit have writers block for a year and not be in trouble.
>>77391737
Don't use Taptastic at all. Get your own site.
>>77391946
Why? It's a hobby. I don't intend making any kind of money from it anyway.
>>77391946
I disagree. Tapastic is great for growing a fan base.
Tons of people go on Tapastic, they have an intuitive feature, popular, and trending system. Which can really help grow your fanbase.
Once you've established yourself, you can definitly move out to your own website, but its probably a lot easier to grow your fanbase on a host site first.
Fresh from the oven! More Will Draw for Food!Being tall ain't that great.
>>77392085
but then you can bust out your umbreller and shield like an entire mini harem of ladies from the ellyments
and being the pusses they are they need that shit
then theyre all up ons
>>77392135
I need to try that at least once, anon.
>>77387485
Well. In a way this was actually pretty enjoyable in its absurdity. I have no idea what the fuck I just read but you know what? It was original and I'm curious to see more.
>>77376524
Dramatic composition, decent movement. I suggest you relax and focus less on the details. You can create the same impression of space and force with less lines too. But other than that, good work man keep it up.
>>77387485
I was going to cringe at how early-2000's-myspace-esque this is, but the last panel caught me off guard and I'm laughing like an idiot. Well played.
>>77382030
>It turned into 90% advertisement
I wouldn't go that far, but I've definitely started filtering posts that just say they updated their webcomic and link to it.
>>77390792
I think you "overlore" when we've spent more time explaining the world than progressive with the adventure past the prologue/first chapter. IDEALLY I think in a comic you'd develop the world through the story and background elements rather than having a character explain everything to the audience.
>>77382030
I advertise my comic when it updates, but that's one post and I've probably made twenty or so posts in this thread (note: my comic hasn't updated since the last thread so my obligatory update post isn't in this one). There is absolutely a place for plugging webcomic updates in this thread, as long as you accept critique for them, and contribute to the threads in ways other than just promoting your comic.
>>77363915
Yep! Gonna be volunteering for the fourth time there, fucking can't wait. Lookout for dat redshirt
Working on my submission for the 2000AD art contest too, still have to start inking it so an all-nighter is ahead of me
>>77364031
Dis b Claude?
>>77369919
Some updates. Redrawn a few panels, start work on a new page for the storyboard.
My current plan is to start a page a week, ink and colored, starting next week. Although I will do more storyboard in the meantime.
>>77385394
>>77384822
Are these for print?
>>77380887
Maan, ever seen "hoarders"?
>>77376524
Ever thought about studying movie stills?
>>77385829
O ive had the ending planned. It's just that it'll take a while to get there.
>>77393818
>I wouldn't go that far, but I've definitely started filtering posts that just say they updated their webcomic and link to it.
WIPs hardly get any feedback while attention goes exclusively to shitposters and people who post tits.
>>77394657
I don't know what you're talking about, I've seen WIPs getting tons of attention lately.
>>77394419
No, I'm not Claude, though I know they've been a /co/mrade in the past (don't know if they still visit /co/ though). You can find them at Marquee 97.
Vigor Mortis (of this parish) will be at NDH 86. The creator of Long Lost Lempi sometimes posts in the "Work on your art" threads, and is at NDH 111a.
Those are all the attending /co/mrades I'm aware of. I think the drawfriend known as Cloudman has volunteered at TB in the past.I might even be replying to them. Didn't you have a size M Wakfu t-shirt you don't want?
I guess, in at least two cases, asking "How's Your Webcomic?" will be our secret handshake.
>>77394433
Yes they're for print.
>>77394433
A lot of this dialogue reads very oddly.
>But your ability to control magitek was...
Why is there a "but" there?
>You didn't merely influence these artifacts, but to turn them against me, their creator, unfortunately in Archonian Empire, they are nor more than children's toys.
That whole sentence. It's like there's panels missing between these bits of dialogue.
>But unlike these mana suckling Earthbound peasants, magic practically flows through your veins AREN'T YA?
wtfamIreading.jpg
Things've been pretty hectic lately and I haven't had the time to really put my foot down and just update this comic regularly. It's frustrating, because I understand this opening series of comics is dry and vague, and I want to get to the point, but you just can't rush these things too much and end up with a shit comic.
Also boy it's rough trying to find a job making drawerings when you dicked around and just made a bunch of unfinished comics.
>>77395254
Are you doing webcomic as well or just print? Are you printing flops?
>>77395295
Did some revisions, does it seen more clear now? I am also considering change the sequence of dialogue and art that matches it to put the coven destroying comment in the front. Because it'll change two pages that involves it, I might need to sit on it a bit, I think that way it flows better tho.
>>77395474
I feel for you, man. Keep at it, though! You'll get there!
>>77395977
What do you mean? I'm printing them as I finish issues but I'm also posting them online.
>>77391946
why? I don't get why bother with a website. You need tons of followers to keep it alive. Please explain yourself
>>77396761
>You need tons of followers to keep it alive
Bandwidth is cheaper than ever. I pay $6/month for my site and I get like 500gb of bandwidth per month, which is way more than I'll need for years, and by the time I need more, I'll be making enough money off of ads to cover it easily.
>>77375164
Yeah. I know characters can't exist in a vacuum and stories without characters are just things happening so I don't know what was I thinking in trying to separate them to be reviewed.
>>77375196
I can't be an asshole to people that are helping me, I don't have it in me.
Thanks, guys.
http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/133034105085/
Writing sweary guys is fun
it seems like everyone assumed that he was gonna be a villain
>>77398517
I wasn't talking about money, but about readers. How do you find a comic site alone on the web? on big websites it's easier, at least that's what looks to me. You get indexed. You find new readers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but having a website is only a good idea if you have tons of readers to interact with already.
>>77387485
I've had 8 shots of Southern Comfort, the room is spinning, I'm doing terrible at CSGO and I wish I had a tablet. Here, have this.
I'm going to at least try and get a scanner soon. I need a printer for school anyway.
>>77400890
Abaddon seems to be doing pretty well for himself, and Paranatural was on it's own site before Zach joined Hiveworks. So long as you make yourself visible with stuff like tumblr and twitter people will find your site.
>>77401210
>8 shots of Southern Comfort
>the room is spinning
I wish I was a lightweight. People like to pick on people who are, but really they're just jealous that they have to drink so much more to get the same buzz.
>>77401210
Man, I just realized how much I'd love to write a comic without having to draw it. I don't mind drawing, I really don't, but I don't feel like I'll ever get that great at it. Even with shittons of practice this is as good as I've gotten.
On the other hand, I've written some rather successful pieces of prose. These include two relatively well received creepypastas, an SCP article with 60+ upvotes, and a lot of popularerotica
>>77401385
I barely drink, and even then only wine. My aunt bought some and we drank and watched movies.
>>77401210
strictly speaking, spiracles. if you start breathing through your exoskeleton you're going to rapidly die of dehydration.. which is the most reliable way to kill bugs actually, that's what borax is for, a powerful abrasive
And that's the end of this chapter.
But there's still the epilouge!
>>77402489
WHEN
WILL
THEY
FUCK
>>77400890
This post to me reads like someone who doesn't want to put in the effort to effectively promote their comic, as well as a person who thinks that their comic should just magically become successful overnight. Basically all of the "big" webcomics that are around today started off totally unknown, but they somehow managed to grow, most of them without a support network outside of who the author happened to know and who happened to come across their comic by chance.
>>77392085
This made me smile. Could have used variation on the hair torso to make this funnier.
>>77391946
Taptastic is great. There's a lot of high quality comics on it that draw a viewership that want to read webcomics. The interface is really good. You don't need your own website unless you want to run ads.
How do you "think" the panelling for the vertical webcomic format? Is there some things to know in particular, or do you just use classic comic science?
>>77404390
what do you mean? vertical webcomic format doesn't need any thought towards paneling.. you just put one below the other
>>77404390
The vertical panel format is pretty new to comics actually. Since readers can more smoothly navigate the page by scrolling, remember that the action should be mostly moving downwards. (Not all of course, but major, page filling actions)
Keep in mind that your readers won't know what's on the bottom panel until they scroll down to it. Use this to your advantage.
>>77404230
Thanks anon! I'm glad I could bring a smile to your day.
I'll keep your advice in mind.
Is there any webcomic artist that became relatively popular besides ONE?
>>77404781
The guy who made Axe cop got his own show.
>>77405075
unfortunately he's evidently so hard up for money he has no time to do the comic.. i guess it and the show made him that little money
sucks because there was a really limited time where his little brother could participate before being too old, ykno
>>77405169
oh and he also evidently has no time to do his other comic.. which is too bad because it showed promise but was moving slowly as fuck
i wonder what he's doing for a living
>>77403970
"If" my comic is new and I am unexperienced, I'm not going to hide my comic on a site and just tweet about it. Heck, It it what I've been doing 2 years. I promoted my comic on tumblr, twitter, facebook. Nothing. Then, overnight I got a bunch of readers on one of those hosting sites. The site I neglected the most. Big communities DO help, I don't get why not use them at all. They are tools, after all.
Of course I want to get my own site who doesn't. I'm just wondering if it's useful when you are just starting.
>>77404781
Hidekaz Himaruya?
>>77404781
Penny Arcade.
What is ONE doing right?
>>77403908
We'll have to see~
>>77406480
He got a talented artist doing his shit.
Maybe I'll be a famous if i got a talented artist on my side.
>>77406525
This. Fuck that idiot who keep using ONE as an example of successful webcomic artist.
It's like using poor people winning a 1st prize lottery as a proof of upward mobility.
>>77406861
But, There are artists that can't draw things.
Like...where the wild things are. The guy couldn't even draw a horse.
>>77406964
uh.. are you thinking of something else?
I can't wait to draw Foxhole while smoking cannabis.
#Bernie2016The joke is that I drew her with red eyes and my last name is Sanders.I do hope they legalize it tho.
>>77407445
>I do hope they legalize it tho
Feels good to be a WA native.
>>77407474
dammit you're making me miss home
home incredibly expensive gentrified home
>>77407474
I'm in Texas. There is no hope for me.
The most important issue proposed in the recent election was "SHOULD WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HUNT?! UH YES BY 81%"
Great, Texas.
That's so important.
Thank you for this progress.
My cup.
Fucking.
RUNNETH over.
Ugh, don't get me started on politics. I'll go on for hours about how this state disappoints me.
>>77407540
when the king of england shows up on your doorstep riding a 12-point buck you're going to be happy they wasted tax money on re-voting for that
>>77407558
In that terrible dread fugue state between the waking world and sleeping.Got a business dinner with a client I wanna take a hatchet to tomorrow.
Have a panel I liked from tomorrow/Friday's update of the Sisters.
>>77381692
Too centered, lacks stuff going on below the sign. Could work, but the angle sort of demands a little drag; if that makes any sense?
>>77377714
Good on you. Love your stuff, looking forward to the conclusion.
>>77406861
His story is actually good. And some people probably liked his stuff before it came to Murata remaking it.
I think sometimes a comic with shit art can still be good if it has the other qualities.
As an example, Go Nagai was pretty terrible at the start of Devilman. It had some really nice panels but it was something that could be considered as bad art in general, fundamentals-wise.
>>77404781
>ONE
>>77406480
>>77406525
>one punch man
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS SHIT IS WORSE THAN CHRIS CHAN
it looks like someone with extreme autism made this, is this REALLY popular?
the most recent pages look just as bad as this shit
fuck it, fucking DEWD can draw better than this, fucking anyone in this thread can draw better than this!
what in the actual holy fuck is this garbage and why is it popular? is the artist like 3 years old or something????
Working on some rough drafts to get a feel for the characters, composition, and atmosphere of my webcomic.
Thoughts on this? Its a bust of the protagonist as he decisively agrees to help
Any feedback appreciated
>obvious bait
ONE isnt good at drawing, and im guessing, he's come to terms with it. Ive read the entire webcomic, the entire manga version, and watched the anime out too, Its picked up because his story is A1, Great characters, sorta normal feely anime stuff that just gets shitted on by the premise of the story. Its funny, original, and obviously refreshing enough to catch A LOT of attention
>>77409144
The bad drawing is a part of the joke
>>77409144
>is this REALLY popular?
Yup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUtBRGHe3aE
It became popular because the subject matter was good enough that people looked past the art. Better art was just icing. Mob Psycho 100 will probably get an adaptation too. Same thing happened with AoT too.
>>77409162
Overall: Not bad.
Nitpicks: The hair and mouth. He needs a bit more hair on the sides. Like about where the hairline makes it's descent to the ear. You've sorta got it like it's going straight down and back, when really it comes a bit more towards the front of the face.
Mouth: Something about the mouth makes it read more like a graphic. Like you learned a shorthand for how to draw open mouths and put it on his face. Or at least, like your construction of that area needs to be a bit more referenced so it wraps around better.
Also, watch your lines. The sketchy line always feels cool to make, but looks very non-committal. Don't be afraid to make single, strong, decisive lines. It'll come off more like you've got confidence in your work.
But yeah, overall, it's totally fine, save for a few bits here and there.
>>77409144
There's a lot of luck involved in making it m'afraid
>>77409263
Thanks a million for the feedback, I really wouldn't be conscientious of those bits had they not been pointed out.
I'll think about what the character is saying, think of the most embellished part and draw the mouth saying that
As for the sketchiness I turned a lazy rough into a less lazy one, but almost everything is on 1 layer, so I did too much to go over, and too much to erase it all.
I'm also not good at hair, really at all. I need to play around and find what's natural and suits my style, while remaining correct
>>77409144
>HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS SHIT IS WORSE THAN CHRIS CHAN
>it looks like someone with extreme autism made this, is this REALLY popular?
I feel sorry for you, anon.
Come back when you realize that visual storytelling has more to it than the quality of the drawings alone.
>>77362811
Hey guys im new here, first time posting, i just finished the cover page a project im completely re-doing and re-booting from the ground up, what do you guys think?
here is where i will be posting pages for this, its going to be epic: http://fates.thecomicseries.com/
*FATES stands for "Fairune And The Eternal Scrolls"!
>>77409763
Add 'Fates' to the filter, folks.
>>77362858
And move along.
>>77362855
>>77362858
holy shit are you still doing this?
STILL!!!!????
how long are you going to keep this shit up for man? What the fuck dude?
>>77395474
I like the art style in this comic!
Keep up the great work!
>>77409785
>>>/trash/106134
>>77409162
Less details and you'lle be fine. You might want to condsider less accuracy and just draw it like you mean it. There are a lot of great tutorials for shading, and I think you should check them out. The lines are a bit scratchy at the moment. Not that it ruins the picture -- actually I think if you had left them out, the picture would breathe more. By breathing I mean the amount of lines in a picture guides the eye, and you may want us to look at the whole picture and the general emotional mood of the character rather than the wrinkles on his shirt.
So what I would suggest, is that experiment with making longer, more confident strokes and less details and shading. Make it minimal. See how it turns out. I think you will find that its faster and more relaxed. Then you can gradually start learning more shading techniques from tutorials and as you draw the comic.
So relax. Don't have to overdraw it. That's all. You got a great atmosphere going on. Melancholy and conflict pops out.
>>77410435
i.....
fuck im speechless
>>77410584
leave bones alone!
>>77410622
good old chrischan
>>77398580
>>77409144
There's a better drawn version. That's what the anime is based on.
>>77387137
>What saved me was short stories. I started valuing them and realized that they aren't any easier than longer stories. And that's when I started studying if there was some kind of a trick or technique to learn. I feel like that is when I truly started this hobby.
Yeah, trying to go straight into writing an epic story without having drawn shorter stories is like trying to to go straight into srawing an epic comic without having studied figure drawing. Mine actually started as a series of short stories, but I wish I had done more before "rebooting" it into a larger story.
>>77387935
Yeah, I'm in the same boat.
I had a GENERAL idea of how I wanted the comic to end (it's rather episodic, with each chapter standing alone for the most part and connected by a larger plot), but as you keep writing you realize that your first ideas weren't the best, you change things to the point where your orriginal ending makes less sense, scenes you had planned get cut for pacing's sake.
My story is close to being 10% done but a lot I had planned has changed from the begining, I know my limits better and how much to insert into a story. I'm sure most people here will look back at their earlier chapters and regret them
How do you fine anons prevent and/or help combat RSI and similar conditions?
Can I post my main character's design sheet before any comic example or whatever?
>>77411679
Go ahead!
Heya folks, I've been KO for a couple days. I've just made a change to the website, basically putting 2 pages together on the same page. Someone told me they found themselves reading a whole row instead of going down each page, so I have darkened the background a bit. Can someone tell me if this is all right?
I'm also gong to post a new page in a few
skylight-comic.tumblr.com
Aaaand today's page is up.
Lemme know what you think of the double-page-display thing.
>>77412056
>skylight-comic.tumblr.com
I think it would work better as a scroll; But it's a valid change.
>>77412282
I was thinking of switching to Tapastic and that'd probably be wise 'cause Tumblr isn't the best place for webcomics, but I can't stand the interface. Is it even customizable? Having comments between pages is a deal breaker for me.
>>77409227
>Mob Psycho 100 will probably get an adaptation
I hope so
I like Mob Psycho more than OPM
>>77411719
This is my main character on a potential comic series project I want to get on with. Her name is Amy Yacbournie, and she's like a leotard wearing heroine who's kinda silly. That's all I really got so far, this owned project is still new and in development I suppose.
>>77413239
She look like American version of Yotsuba.
Stop nigga.
