>Be Cyclops
>Literally right about everything
>Helps out anyone in need and promotes Fair Treatment
>Everyone likes Asshole who tries to fuck anything and has an affair with his wife
>Wife dies, comes back, died, comes back, etc...
>Not even his wife anymore he tries to get therapy
>Finds love with only girl that understands and agress with him
>Everyone, even wolverine, calls him an asshole for cheating on Jean or now the phoenix (Who at this point of constantly being revived and mind taken over by a cosmic entity isn't even his wife anymore)
>Gets dragged through the dirt but picks himself back up
>Then Mutant race is genocided by SW and the Avengers do nothing and protect her from being attacked. (kinda like Angela Merkle and Germany)
>Mutants are constantly hunted down by Sentinels funded by gov and Avengers do nothing to help but say "Sucks to be you!"
>Cyclops makes an ethno state to save his people
>All is fine
>Then Wolverine like any SJW becomes altruistic and says that teenagers can't help defend the island from a giant super sentinel
>The Teens and Cyclops both say they want to help
>Wolverine attacks and tries to kill Cyclops while Sentinel attacks the island
>Cyclops and the teens win.
>WolverCuck goes and makes a school based off the name of Cuclop's wife that he constantly tried to fuck while they were married
>All is whatever
>Then Avengers try to intervene with the Phoenix that will rebirth Cyclops' race
>Cyclops says that the X-men know what they are doing, that they fought the phoenix countless times, and that the avengers have no idea of anything.
>Avengers go to Cyclops' island demand his granddaughter so that they can kill her or else they'll attack the whole island with all the avengers and the helicarrier
>Later on Cyclops and friends get pieces of the Phoenix's power.
>First thing he does is stop all war, end hunger etc.
>Without hurting anyone or taking away their freedoms
Part 1
>>82417593
Part 2
>Then because of the avengers he is forced to have all the phoenix in him and that posses him (Like everyone's favorite Jean)
>And Prof. X gets himself killed because of that
>Then the Mutant race is reborn just like Cyclops said it would when it went to his granddaughter
>Everyone now hates him for killing ONE GUY (And keep in mind Jean has killed entire PLANETS of people and no one blames her because of the phoenix taking over)
>Then Beast brings back the og x-men from the 90s to rage at the kid Cyclops and tells him how he is like Hitler and shit
>og X-men see Cyclops and agree with him and leave beast for his school.
>Now because of Beast's temper tantrum with fucking the timeline so much he ended the ENTIRE MULTIVERSE causing the reboot.
we all know this op no need to be autistic about it
I'm reading the X-Anon storytimes and he's definitely best boy so far
>>82417593
DC fan here. We'll take Cyclops and F4 for safekeeping. Marvel can't be trusted with good characters.
>>82417593
>Literally right about everything
>tried to fight the inhumans with no support
Did he expect it to be like the avengers where they beat him up and he mouths off in jail? Half the reason make a big deal about Maximus getting off easy is because they murder everyone else for the slightest offense.
>>82421608
Cause really outside of BB, who can even fight in the Inhumans.
>>82422344
Crystal,Medusa, and couple of the new Inhumans there is also that thing when them having an army and tons of technological defense. It's not a fight he could win without help and we know everybody turned their back on him.
>>82421608
Cyclops post Secret Wars isn't Cyclops anymore. He's just a thing writers said happened.
>kinda like Angela Merkel and Germany
Stopped reading right here.
So, what issue did Cyclops faked his own dead, realizing that he was drawing too much attentions away from mutant issues?
Crazy how Scott still puts more pressure on himself than anyone else.
Hero we deserve
>>82422722
Have they explained what he did that was so horrible yet, or are they just going to leave it hanging there like a particularly blunt Sword of Damocles?
>>82417593
>>Then Mutant race is genocided by SW and the Avengers do nothing and protect her from being attacked. (kinda like Angela Merkle and Germany)
Remember the time they found her, she admitted she fucked up, and swore she would return the powers of every mutant she could, after giving living proof that she could?
But no, Spergclops had to go full X GONNA GIVE IT TO YA and let her get caught by Doom again.
What series?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfKmrxxTY7k
>>82417593
>Implying Wolverine wasn't right
yeah, and Beast isn't shit
>>82424994
>wolverine
>a literal race traitor
>right
I always knew I was right to like Cyclops the most back in the 90s.
>>82417593
>>82417635
>Wife dies, comes back, died, comes back, etc...
You forgot the part where he abandoned his real wife AND his son because someone who wasn't his wife was revived.
>Finds love with only girl that understands and agress with him
Forgot the part where he cheated on his current wife that was the girl he abandoned for his then wife and son.
>Wolverine attacks and tries to kill Cyclops while Sentinel attacks the island
You forgot the part where Cyclops provoked Wolverine into a fight, because he still loved the girl he cheated on but also left his first wife for. Also, he threw the first punch.
>Without hurting anyone or taking away their freedoms
You forgot the part where he started hunting down the Avengers.
>Then because of the avengers he is forced to have all the phoenix in him and that posses him (Like everyone's favorite Jean)
You forgot the part where he willingly attacked the girl with whom he cheated the other girl for whom he abandoned his first wife and son.
And I'm sure I even forgot plenty of his assholery.
>>82425880
Awesome post. Also a reminder that Cyclops's fans suffer persecution and inferiority complex syndrome, and have the habit to distort facts, or telling half truths.
>>82426048
Cyclops was lucky. Is the best you could say without distorting it too much.
Would Hope just have gone insane without training by Iron Fist training?
I mean sure Tony fucked it up, but it was pretty implied that Hope couldn't handle it.
He was lucky as shit that the Phoenix didn't just destroy the Earth to get it's new waifu.
>>82417593
Damn it, I thought that was Racer X and got excited for a moment.
>>82426291
Also add to this, that Cyclops was behaving like a terrorist and dictator, before the AVX. He wasn't much different from an ISIS leader (assasination squads, power displaying teams in order to terrorize the opponents).
>>82425880
>You forgot the part where he abandoned his real wife AND his son because someone who wasn't his wife was revived.
Reminder that his wife was a FUCKING CLONE THAT WAS BEING USED BY SINISTER TO FUCK WITH CYCLOPS.
>Forgot the part where he cheated on his current wife that was the girl he abandoned for his then wife and son.
FORGOT THE PART WHERE HIS CURRENT WIFE KISSED WOLVERINE SO SHE CHEATED FIRST
>You forgot the part where Cyclops provoked Wolverine into a fight, because he still loved the girl he cheated on but also left his first wife for. Also, he threw the first punch.
FORGOT WHERE WOLVERINE COMPLAINS ABOUT USING KIDS BUT KILLED ALMOST ALL OF HIS OWN KIDS.
>You forgot the part where he started hunting down the Avengers.
FORGOT ABOUT THE PART WHERE THE AVENGERS FORCED HIS FUCKING HAND BY CONSTANTLY ATTACKING FOR NO REASON. It's called assault dude people go to jail for attacking others unprovoked.
>You forgot the part where he willingly attacked the girl with whom he cheated the other girl for whom he abandoned his first wife and son.
FORGOT THE PART WHERE EVEN THE BEST OF US COULD BE CONSUMED BY A DEMI-GOD FORCE OF NATURE.
Face it dude your a faggot.
>>82426586
He literally had no choice? there was less than 300 mutants left with an endless list of people who wanted them gone for good?
it's like when a terrorist threatens to behead somebody unless you give them millions of dollars. you let them kill the hostage because giving them the money will just let them kill more people and also make them target your people even more.
you aren't evil for letting that guy die you literally had no other choice but to make a really hard decision..
cyclops was making hard decisions like that and doing everything he HAD to to keep his people alive
>>82423437
They themselves haven't actually come up with it yet. Why else would the keep it so secret and then forget about it? they hope we forget about it and just accept cyclops is gone and not coming back along with half the other mutants who aren't shit
>>82418830
4chan. I need to tell you something. Autistic doesn't mean "person I disagree with". Carry on.
>>82427864
There is always alternative. Cyclops took the darker and more obvious path. And sending assasination teams is cowardice.
>>82417593
He abandoned his wife and child in the Alaskan wilderness to go chase his old GF.
>>82427413
you tell him m8
>>82428189
There isn't an alternative. Look up all the times governments have let their citizens be executed by terrorists rather than negotiate.
You're just naive as fuck.
He had to take out the threats before they acted he was being pragmatic rather than witing for their inevitable attack which would kill his people and just reacting to that or defending he went out of his way to have it not happen in the first place....
cyclops was right.
>be Cyke
>leader of the muties
>have a sexy as fuck blonde
>have a harem of other sexy as fuck mutie bitches
>Obsess over Jean The Worst Girl Grey
Scott did everything wrong
When you have on your command people that controll the weather, who can turn the opponents to ice cube, or mentally manipulate them, how it's possible that there were not alternatives?
If the only thing that you can think is to send a team of assassins to kill them then sorry but this is is not a brilliant strategy.
>>82428721
In order to understand why he did what he did you have to understand the people he had killed. They all absolutely deserved it
>>82428803
So what's make him better from Punisher? At least Frank kills them himself, he doesn't send others to do his own dirty work.
>>82428863
The problem is you're thinking of cyclops as a conventional super hero and not a leader of a massive faction of people.
he doesn't go assassinate people himself the same way the president doesn't go fight in a war himself.
>>82428450
>He had to take out the threats before they acted he was being pragmatic rather than witing for their inevitable attack which would kill his people and just reacting to that or defending he went out of his way to have it not happen in the first place....
Are we talking about Scott Summers or Boliver Trask?
>forgot looks awesome in a jacket
>>82424934
Narrating over a single picture rather than changing the picture to source whatever he's talking about. 0/10
>>82429075
Even as a leader Cyclops was behaving as a fanatic and absolutist, from the Messiah Complex and afterwards, making the things worse. And this erratic behavior lead most of the X-Men to rise against him. A good leader must inspire, show respect, and at the same time hear the others's opinions. Cyclops was that kind of leader until Whedon's run. Afterwards he lost that touch.
>>82425880
Quite honestly, I've stopped giving a fuck on the Maddie situation. It was bad, not really that messed up, but really bad but it was due to ediotrial.
I just can't take editorial decisions anymore. If anyone could name one time where EM worked for the best, I dunno. It would be something.
But this...I just can't seem to care. From being a plot point character to end Cyke's time with the X-men, to being a clone messing with his mind, I just don't care about Maddie.
>>82428189
Hahahahahahahahaha. Yeah the next time religious zealots murder kids in your care or your kids in general, let's see how cowardly assassination teams are.
>>82429114
Damn I never thought about it like that.
>>82429591
When you have persons with such powers like many X-Men have on your command, then yes it's cowardly, if not retarded to send assasination teams against common thugs, when you can use so many alternative resources.
>>82429809
But Xmen don't kill. As many will say over and over again. And when you really need some dudes dead, you gotta either outsource or get those really out there guys to do it.
>>82429075
This right here. The people that have a problem with a more pragmatic Cyclops are too stuck on the traditional superhero characterization and ignore the fact that the status quo of the time didn't allow for tradiational superheroics. Cyclops handled the situation the way it should have been handled. Mutantkind was a dwindling population that needed protection at all costs.
>>82430905
It's also funny that Cyclops disbanded X-Force when things were starting to look up but Wolverine kept it going. The same guy that ended up fighting Cyclops on his direction. And then the x-moral brigade stuck with him once they found out about Wolverine's hitsquad.
>>82431030
Let's try to justify that load of shit.
Pro-Tip: You can't
>>82427413
>FORGOT THE PART WHERE EVEN THE BEST OF US COULD BE CONSUMED BY A DEMI-GOD FORCE OF NATURE.
This is why Iron Man was right on Civil War. Can the faggot really claim mind control and walk away after killing most likely millions while being the Phoenix? (and yes, it's implied at the end of AvX that he killed plenty of people and almost destroyed the world. Frankly, I don't know why everyone is so assblasted by Xavier when the faggot almost destroyed THE FUCKING WORLD).
>>82417593
Marvel did a poor job as establishing him as a villain.
>>82431504
It wasn't implied. If marvel went with that there wouldn't have been pro-Cyclops rallies afterwards. The regular citizens of the world would be calling for his head.
>>82432724
Is that real?
>>82428400
He left the clone of his recently girlfriend that was psychicly manipulating him. What a dick. (she was physically abusive too)
He didn't just leave her, he escaped. See the picture. If a man did this to a woman, no one would ever judge her harshly for leaving him.
>>82432869
>knocks his glasses off
Dumb bitch is lucky he didn't blast her arm off
>>82432869
Now that I think about it, in a world of shape-shifters, ghosts, and other crazy shit, double checking that you didn't stick your dick in an eldritch chicken was pretty fuckin smart.
2. She never answered. Punching is not a yes or no.
3. If this was reverse gender:triggering.
So that scene was complete bullshit,
>>82432833
Nope just a hilarious edit and something I wish had happened in the comic.
>>82417593
>>Then Wolverine like any SJW becomes altruistic and says that teenagers can't help defend the island from a giant super sentinel
What did he mean by this?
>>82417593
Cyclops is literally trump
>>82435511
Nah he's bernie sanders and/or black lives matter.
#mutantlivesmatter
>>82417593
>>82417635
It's nice to hear it summed up so well. Still though. He was also heralded as a saviour by the kids of America mugga or otherwise. Accepted his prison sentence until he realised the world needed him. Never properly retaliated on avengers violence just ported them away when he was P5 mode.
He was so right he needed to spin 270 degrees clockwise to face left
>>82427413
Preach
>>82417593
Remember that time Cyclops abducted a bunch of teenagers practically out of their cribs, inducted them into his child mutant militia, then on their first "mission", before they'd even received any sort of training, one of them fucked up, so he dropped him back off on his front doorstep, with no protection despite his name having been dragged through the mud as a wanted terrorist and hated by his own family, and then got picked up by SHIELD and interrogated not 5 minutes later?
>Now because of Beast's temper tantrum with fucking the timeline so much he ended the ENTIRE MULTIVERSE causing the reboot.
Wait so all that shit was such a terrible storyline they aborted it and started the entire universe over.. fucking lol
and you guys read this shit?
>>82431504
>and yes, it's implied at the end of AvX that he killed plenty of people and almost destroyed the world.
Nope. The most neutral party involved, Reed, says he did a fucking great job. In fact he suggested it could have been the next step of society on earth.
Reed 'fuck you pym I'm 2 smart' was actively made to cut down the avengers side of it.
So no. It was implied he fucking fixed everything, dipshit.
>>82432833
>>82433468
Not "hilarious" at all. Because Cyclops was the guy who rejected Jailbait Jean's advances. Because he's not a sleaze.
You post "funny" crap that portrays the you version of who Cyclops is and you lower him to your level.
The whole point of Cyclops is that he's actively being better than that. But it's funny to you to smear his character.
>>82432901
actually it's extremely intelligent on her part because she knows cyclops would never, ever endanger her by opening his eyes - because he's cyclops - so she gets to watch him stumble around helplessly on the ground like a little bitch looking for his glasses while she sneeringly calls him 'noclops'
>>82436070
>one of them fucked up
One of them used a phone cause he thought he knew better than Scott fucking Summers. That dude deserved to get the shield treatment. He was a full grown adult man and endangered everyone because he thought he knew better.
>>82432724
daily reminder that ultimate wolverine canonically fucked 15 year old ultimate jean
>>82436181
>there are faggots that still like wolvie
That said
>ultimates
The only good one is Potato Reed.
>>82436169
>victim blaming
He got stolen from his home and inducted into a militia, how in fuck's name was he supposed to "trust" Scott Summers? You have to earn trust. Scott's a totalitarian dictator the likes to rival Stalin, operating under the same methods of keeping subjects under control with fear of the swift punishment that follows whenever they break one of his pocket empire's rules they weren't even aware existed.
>>82436260
>he thinks victim blaming is real
>he thinks endangering everyone around you makes you a victim
>>82436260
>He got stolen from his home and inducted into a militia
Your bias is showing. Cops were shooting at him when Cyclops rescued his ass.
>>82436168
I didn't ask for these feelings of anger and sadness. Also when you consider, Scott's history and future of abuse from figures who he was supposed to trust it becomes even worse.
Scott's basically a domestic abuse survivor when you think about it. Just a lot more realistic then someone like Jessica 'Can't be blamed from anything because she was raped' Jones.
He has a low opinion of himself, viewing himself as worthless. Every time he was abused, either by his romantic partners or his team, Scott took responsibility for it. Even when he didn't do anything wrong.
I mean see the end of Bendis' X-Men Original Sin tie in. Scott is blamed by Tempus for 'ending the world'. Yet within the story, he actually didn't. He was actually one of the most helpful people there. Now, if it had been any other X-Man, they would have done the whole, 'it wasn't my fault' or 'I didn't do anything'. Yet, Scott just accepts responsibility. That's the kind of man that Scott Summers is. He thinks of himself as being the fuck up everyone says he is. He can't view himself in a positive light.
When he leads the X-Men, it's not matter of ego. He just steps up to the plate and accepts the responsibility because no one else will. That's also why his plans nearly always work. It's because Cyclops thinks to himself "What can go wrong, will go wrong" and plans for every possible scenario.
I'm out of Marvel since The Bendis take over on Guardians, what happened to Cyclops?
>>82436448
Well, he's been blamed for something. We don't know what yet, but the X-Men want to totally dissociate with themselves with him.
All we know that it made the Mutants out to be bad guys again and that everyone is afraid of them again. Even though, you know the Inhumans are to blame for everything at the moment.
>>82417593
Not that I want to protect Cyclops, because he's undoubtedly an idiot.. however
After years and years of stories, I can not help but notice that all the X-men have skeletons in the closet and they did deplorable actions.
All of them are guilty of some more or less serious sins.
it's fun to see Rogue talking shit about Wanda, forgetting all the filth that she did herself, not only when she worked for Mystica, but also after, such as X-man. Even Colossus can not be considered as true good character anymore.
This thing of dirting the characters to make them interesting, It is a little overused
>>82436181
wait what? I haven't read UX-men and I need to know when this happens
>>82420070
can DC take -all- the X-Men?
>Marvel Universe: FUCK MUTIES
>DC Universe: HOORAY MORE SUPERHEROES
>>82417635
>>Then Beast brings back the og x-men from the 90s to rage at the kid Cyclops and tells him how he is like Hitler and shit
When was this???
>>82438022
the start of battle of atoms? something to do with a revolution that never happened. Also evil Future OG Jean, demon looking beast and kid Professor X.
>>82436136
quit being such an autist it's just banter
