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>>82260478
the opposite of this
uhh more sora too
also more fights i guess?
>>82261756
YOU CAN'T WIN!
>>82254987
they explained earlier that it does stand for something
>>82255005
it has big ugly frames you cant move, the comic appears in the lower right corner of the screen
>>82257743
since the screen sticks out, wouldnt it have a whole new set of lines?
Do your best.
Daddy loves you.
>>82264617
yes, it would. those red lines are a garbled mess too, but then again it looked like he was trying to match the other guy's lines and got confused.
"freehanding" is fine, but it looks like he's using a line tool to get the straight lines, so it's not like it'll take extra effort here to set a vanishing point.
>>82264969
well i think the idea was "look, if i draw lines going from all your lines, they don't line up. thus you must have made a mistake"
but i think each individual 'piece' has consistent lines. i'm not sure
i've seen people using things like perspective rulers, and theyre neat but... how can you possibly choose WHICH level of perspective to use?
>>82264366
If you could mind control your friends, what would you make them do, or at least what would you secretly want them to do?
My detective character learns a spell, but is very reluctant to use to his friends, since, well, it's really not ok, but that got me thinking what you guys would use it for? Doesn't matter if it's something weird or disgusting-- I'm not judging.
>>82264617
>since the screen sticks out, wouldnt it have a whole new set of lines?
Not if the surfaces are parallel.
If one surface was tilted back, the other vanishing point should be found further back on the same vertical "horizon line" (I'm sure there's a proper term for it, but I can't remember one atm)
>>82264969
The red lines weren't an attempt to fix the problem, only to make it more clear by extending the lines.
>>82265030
>but i think each individual 'piece' has consistent lines
They don't. Try looking at the individual vertical line in the grid on the screen. Try looking at the vertical lines on the bottom right wall and the lines on the middle right wall.
you guys need to listen up right now and study up on that perspective. especially that one dude
>>82265138
yeah i think everyone thinks about that. uhh basically just removing the annoyances in ways of thinking that people have, that i KNOW came from outside sources, so i'm only playing fair by changing them back. only difference is the societal brainwashing was slower.it's probably for the best i don't have this power
make them see past manipulation, bullshit, taboos, temptations.. there'd be a hell of a lot more casual nudity around i tell you what, and a fuckton less casual sex
>>82265272
ugh i will never be able to make sense of this. all my brain is doing is going 'but things AREN'T bending towards a point. they're parallel and perpendicular'
it always says that, and it will never stop. it doesn't understand 3d because it's never had the right stimulus
>>82265626
I was going to tell you how crazy you sound for the first half, then I realized you're that crazy nudist guy. You're pretty crazy man. But I'm just brainwashed right.
>>82265664
If it's any consolation, things really are bending towards a point and you're not crazy.
It's just really hard to draw things like that.
>>82265732
whaaat no they aren't.. it's just a perspective illusion
an illusion my brain automatically 'fixes' which fucking ruins my ability to get a handle on it
>>82265732
>so indoctrinated by society that he revels in it
huxley was right.
>>82265790
Oh, I read you wrong.
Try getting a broomshaft or similar, holding it real close to your face and look up and down its length until you see the warp of space.
>>82266036
i'm gonna have to do that shit. train my brain a bit
though now my eyes are additionally incapable of shifting focus so it's possible that ship has sunk
>>82266127
Maybe just try drawing vanishing points and perspective lines on photographs?
>>82266127
the fuck is wrong with you, do you even want to draw?
>>82266163
heyyy that's a dilly of an idea!
>>82266194
lots of things, medically speaking. and yes
>>82265561
>especially that one dude
Spot the typo.
>>82266369
are you a 35 year old dad?
>>82266409
What kinda cockamamie question is that, carnflabbit
>>82266425
one that makes me kinda sad because i wish i could say yes
>always write comic script in novel form. If not novel form-like, its in acting script form
>stories always end up too long or too detailed
>make many oneshots, but never draw them because theres no way I'm drawing +50 pages
>start getting lazy one day because of demotivation
>fuck novel/acting script form
>fuck effort
>start writing stories by greentexting, ala telling a story to 4chan people
>notepads full of ">"
>tfw this works best for me
>>82265561
>especially that one dude
>>82266476
your ideas are all shit anyways. delete everything.
>>82266517
Yours are more shit, famalam.
Even your waifus are shit.
>>82266476
that's pretty close to how i write. just 'he does some stuff, then hilariously blah blah blah happens' and that reminds me what should happen, who should say what, and what the tone should be
>>82266517
Okay I get this style of humor.
But this is the 50th time I've seen it in these threads this week with no spin or variation whatsoever.
>>82266536
false, my ideas are great. here's one I've been toying with
A boy falls in love with a girl.
Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
>>82264617
Sora is actually the hardest character to write.
It's hard to come up with philosophical gags
I'm also afraid that if I use her too much people will get annoyed by her. Or her character will wear out.
>>82266584
Oh shit mange. I still remember you from months ago. So did you start this now? It seems like many people left now...
>>82266612
well that's why it's okay to ask what people want to see but you should still use your own judgment on the final decisions
>>82266584
>alt reality gf
>not just the genderswapped protag
>>82266753
What does that improve
>>82266753
>not recognising the phone plot copypasta
Newfag
Thread's off to a shirt start. We've got the phonespammer back and everything.
Nice precedent faggot. >>82264402
>>82266714
Yeah true...
Well anyways, sora's big fight in the tourney arc is something I'm really looking forward too.
>>82266584
this seems like a great idea. why hasn't someone stolen this yet?
>>82267040
I have a side chapter of west tree based off this.
Do you guys do logos and stuff for your titles, or do you just have them up at the top of each page/beginning of each chapter?
>>82266584
FINDS A WAY
>>82264851
Hey daddy <3
>>82267216
this fucking guy
>>82267235
what
>>82266584
I missed this.
>>82267385
I dunno, I think I'm thinking too much about this
>>82218537 →
Well, nice to see The Sisters is a lot of people's second favorite comic. Or that at least people are enjoying it. It has been up, officially, for a year as of today. We've only missed one update, due to a tablet exploding; and tomorrow is an update day.
We've got 220 pages of core story done, plus some additional material we've tossed up in some places.
Feels good. Even if our first two issues were done back in 2014 and that really does show. We've had some solid stylistic advances and I'm happy with how the plot has gone.
Couple more weeks and this first big arc of the Sisters will be over with and we'll be moving on to a new story, set during the summer. More balanced character screen time, more of Beatrice's development arc (Jam gets hers for the third, and throughout in general), and things fall apart as quickly as they might get put back together.
>>82266476
Honestly finding the correct format is challenging, because there is a correct format for the field but a lot of people come into it with other experiences. I write a stage play format because my artist is all about framing and there's no point in me setting up frames if he's going to do them better. The novel format can be useful, I've worked with people who wanted it that way; but it can get tiring and very dense.
Greentexting isn't the worst, you're essentially just writing by bulletpoints.
>>82265138
I'd make them act on potential and live up to that by being the best them they could be; which is actually a very horrifying prospect because then I'd be grinding their personality and self-determination into the dust all for the sake of a more functional commodity.Of course that's one of our bad guy's overarching themes; but he won't be around for a while.
I'd force things to be better by my definition, and if that happened to hurt other people; they could either fall in line or be crushed beneath the wheels of history.
I am easily corrupted.
>>82265138
Mundane, petty things, like making them prioritise going out with me instead of spending their evening with family/girlfriends
>>82267235
I dont even put titles on my comics kek. I mean, they have names... but its in the album's title settings, not in the comic itself. Making up logos yourself sound pretty nice and creative unless you fuck it up. There are some webcomics where the logos/the style of it look out of place.
>>82267307
Oh no, don't call me daddy.
>>82268098
Sure thing Grunkle Scribs
>>82265138
Use it to spill whatever information. I'd make them treat me dinner, but my friends are poorfags. I think whatever information I can squeeze out of then, even the useless gossip ones, are interesting. I might even find out if theyre actually ny friends or not.
can someone share top view perspective lines?
i want to do an image similar to this angle but im new to perspective
>>82267903
I didn't vote for The Sisters, but I probably would've if I'd read the poll properly - it's not my favorite comic from these threads, but I think it probably is the best.
>>82268305
it's always good to keep a distinction between the two
![perspec5p[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/KxPuReN.gif "perspec5p[1].gif")
>>82268221
http://www.storytellerartist.com/documents/Perspective_Made_Easy.pdf
The term you're looking for is "three-point perspective".
>>82265138
The only thing I'd do with such a spell is develop a counterspell and then have it active 24/7 by any means necessary.
Mind control wigs me the fuck out, man.
Don't forget to VOTE!
http://www.strawpoll.me/10057846
But not for your own comic. We'll know.
>>82268719
what even is Sad Habits? is that the prequel to rock me like a schoolhouse or whatever?
>>82268719
I don't actually like how this question is framed.
Art isn't competitive. A sort of "what comics do you like and why" would be better, but that's neither quick nor exciting as a poll competition.
>>82268719
Do you guys even read each others comic (doubt it) or is this just about the art?Miss Meelee for me
>>82268823
Don't be mad just because your comic isn't getting any votes.
Currently coming up with concept art for machine abominations. It;s fucking difficult to come up with unique ones for each.
Pic related is what they're kinda influenced by
>>82268719
I'm confused, someone actually voted for my comic (sad habits). Was it a pity vote or did you click the wrong option?
I voted for Miss Melee, but in my mind it's tied with The Green Knight (out of all the ones I've read anyway).
>>82265626
>>82267903
>>82268064
>>82268204
>>82268695
I'm disappointed in what decent human beings you guys are. I would do all the worst things. I'm an opportunist and I'd do anything I could just get away with.
>>82268964
You have s pretty cool art, anon.
>>82268964
To be fair you did say it was to our friends
If it was to random strangers, I'd be a rapist and worse
>>82268871
Consider what is truly abominable rather than what is just shocking or weird looking.
http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/143498358165/you-ask-her-what-youre-supposed-to-do-now-you
whoops
forgot to draw for some days
>>82265138
More of the same. I'm manipulative as hell, and have gotten away with a lot irl. Those things I'm already not doing, it's less because I can't and more because I don't want to.
That said, faking my way into my dream job and a shitload of cash would become easy. As would smoothing things over when I'm caught for something I've already done wrong.
>>82268841
I read several from these threads but not all. Some don't appeal to me, others I haven't gotten around to yet.
>>82268841
of course we fucking read comics from these threads
not ALL of them obviously, everything appeals to different people
there are a few in here whose art i like but the comic i cant get into. none vice versa though because i'll sit through bad art for good humor and story.
what's sad is how many never update anymore, but i still check em every day
>>82268871
uniqueness is difficult when each design is a mess. messes blend together over time. i'd say focus on silhouette / skeleton, make one you havent made yet.
>>82269018
if you had mind control why wouldnt everyone be your friend? cmon man think
>>82269161
i hope you got my earlier suggestion vis-a-vis what Spants will decide to ultimately do, because things are sure heading in its direction. not that you have to use it or anything..
>>82269161
How many waifu-able insects will your next comic feature???
>>82269473
all of them
>>82269399
which suggestion?
>>82269498the one where he gets sick and tired of it and just defects to the nearest bug who probably treats him better
but see just saying that.. now i've ruined it.
>>82268871
>Machine Abominations
Check out Silent Hill designs, Dark Eldar/Chaos 40k designs, the Daelkyr from Eberron stuff (chuck some tech in it), Digimon in general has some horror stuff, the Fabricants of Sotha Sil, Terminator stuff. Phyrexians from different sets too. Guess it really depends on what you're trying to get out of your body horror machine monsters.
>>82268964
>force my will into others to destroy their personalities to bring out their potential.
>decent human being.
I mean, it isn't as base as preying on them but I'd argue that it is pretty terrible. Like as much as I hated Molly Carpenter in most of the Dresden Files, her ripping apart her friends brains to make them stop being junkies had a really horrific vibe to them that showed how evil the best intentions can be.
>>82269553
i got like 3 suggestions like that
>>82269567
It's not as if leaving them alone allows their personalities to shine, though. that's the trouble. the more manipulative you get (intentionally or not), the more you realize people are fucking sheepzombies. and you know you cant SAY anything about that because you start getting tinfoil hat polish for christmas
>>82269572
okay grape minds think alike, nevermind my worry. and dont tell us if youre using that or not. just you do whatever. i'm enjoying the ride.
>>82269567
There really isn't supposed to be a rhyme or reason to how these abominations look. They're literally people driven insane and begin replacing body parts with random machines. That being said i guess I don't have to adhere to a specific theme.
>>82269698
in that case, look up machines. machines of various types. the machines used to make cars, the ones used in weaving, the ones used to assemble other machines. the ones used to pump food and food products into different shapes in food product factories. imagine what kinda shit you'd probably want to have included in your mechanical body
>>82269911
That's actually a really good idea.
Thanks
>>82269698
Well, maybe look up psychology manuals for ways that people go nuts and design them around that.
Like, schizophrenics might replace parts of their brain to try and stop the voices, body dysmorphia is obvious, a guy afraid of bugs might replace his sweat glands with pesticide dispensers and have bug zappers dangling from him, Anorexic who's replaced their digestive system so they can't get fat, agoraphobic or social anxiety who's entombed in a faceless tank, a woman who was frustrated with her childlessness and has merged with a bunch of cloning tanks.
Kinda rambly, but I hope you get the idea.
>>82270236
>future trepanning
it's scary to think about
>>82270393
I was thinking more like an invasive tinfoil hat, but sure. Trepanation is more about letting things out of your head than keeping them from getting in.
>>82270669
or letting them in, yeah. i think there were different reasons depending on cultures.. and we still don't know for absolute sure. crazy shit man.
>>82268999
Thanks! :) I switched to digital about a week ago and been trying to figure out my style. Drawing digitally and all that photoshop mumbo-jumbo isn't as easy as I thought. Basically I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm glad someone likes the stuff I shit out.
>>82270716
you should get paint tool SAI or manga studio or something
it's a lot easier to get in to than photoshop, which is a bit clunky and obtuse
>>82271053
I've used Sai for years and I give Clip Studio my strongest recommendation.
>>82271218
I've been eyeballing Clip Studio too. Photoshop is frying my brains.
>>82271333
It really does suck for artists. I'm surprised so many people use it as their one and only.
>>82271422
it's like why do people use apples
because it's the thing you use. so everyone has one already. if you have it already, you force yourself to learn to use it. it took me years to get good at PS and now i'm so damned comfortable..
well i've told this story a million times
>>82268719
I didn't even make the list.
>>82264366
I've started working as an editor for a comic inspired by Prequel and other MSPA-style adventures. I don't know where the artist intends to go with the story, but it's been good writing practice so far.
We're in need of more commands, so leave some if you're up to it.
http://eagle-time.com/showthread.php?tid=1401
>>82272313
>inspired by prequel
jeez you werent fucking kidding. on the plus side this makes me feel better about my prequel clone idea
>>82273001
Yeah, he wasn't exactly subtle with the stylistic roots. I'd imagine the comic will diverge considerably as it goes along. There's a fine line between "inspiration" and "ripoff", and I'm gonna try to make sure we don't cross it.
>>82273313
oh well kaz is a cool guy it's not like he'd complain. usually what i think of when i see things totally similar to other things is 'why arent there MORE like this?' meaning both why arent there more copycats and.. why didnt the thing being copied have more of itself.
>>82272313
The style's pretty close but Prequel's pretty much the same as any other MSPA fanadventure anyway, not very original in itself.
That said, the art's good. Good luck to both of you.
Yo, how you gents think about furshit characters mixed with humans?
I wanted to do this space opera thing with giant robots, but they are used just in ceremonial combat between championships so its on the "realistic" side of SF.
Its basically Dune x Five Star Stories, now in FSS, each mech comes with a chick co-pilot (like Cortana) bioengineered waifu that bonds with the pilot permanently.
In the story, human shaped robots are forbidden, and ppl use uplifted animals (yer basic anthros) as slave races like ancient Romans.
Originally the slaves were going to be just normal humans (like us) and the masters would be a future "super race" like Kahn from Star Trek
Like most of /co/, I don't mind some anthro stuff but wouldn't consider myself a furry or part of the scene, I was just wondering if having such characters would be good for getting fur readers or would it repell others instead.
Oh the style I'd want is something weeb/casual friendly, kemono, not too hardcore fur stuff.
>>82274212
giant robots only used for ceremonial purposes.. ha, i dig that. of course that implies a society with a LOT of time and resources to waste on that. being able to straight up genetically engineer animal-slaves sounds like it's consistent with that, but holy shit if youre going to have THAT tech level but also be realistic, shit, you're going to have to think a lot about what society would be like. it doesnt sound like a society that would have a straight up taboo on robots made in our own image
in any case, yeah slaverace animals make sense to me. the whole reason anthro shit was cool to begin with, outside of stupid lame silly cartoons, was because animals are all fantastic and athletic and do cool shit, so yeah.. theyd be great laborer slaves. except who the fuck needs laborers anymore if your tech level is THAT high?
>>82274212
>how you gents think about furshit characters mixed with humans?
Horrible, horrible Twokinds flashbacks.
>>82274212
can u explain it so a layman can get it
>>82272313
>>82273313
I don't think there's anything wrong with using the same style and format. I'm not too familiar with Prequel, but I think similarity is kinda cool. Almost makes me feel like they're set in the same universe, and there's something cool about that. It all boils down to the story-- if the story's different and original enough, then it's all fine and good. Also it could help you two to tap into the Prequel fan base and get wider readership.
Have you been in contact with the Prequel author? Could be cool if you could cook up some kind of collaboration or something.
Anyway, I wish I had an editor or co-writer.. preferably the latter.
>>82274574
yeah i've never heard of a comic team where one is merely the editor.. shit i'd be good at editing. i do it in here for free
>>82274292
Yeah, I've thought about the tech levels, they do have machines, certainly, just not andro/gynoids cause social taboos, I liked the retro feudalism elements of Dune & Foundation, so this story takes place in the aftermath of a galactic empire long destroyed and a few dozen great houses constantly fight each, and instead of the Space Guild, there is a Posthuman entity that acts as a seemingly neutral referee in their conflicts and uphold some luddite rules from the past.
>>82274320
Twokinds?
>>82274456
It's Game of Thrones in space with giant robots and furshit waifu bait.
>>82274735
Be glad you don't know about Twokinds. Be very, very glad.
>>82274699
>i've never heard of a comic team where one is merely the editor
I can't draw at all, but I enjoy writing, so it's kind of a symbiosis deal going on. As for the collab thing, I've actually met Kaz in person before. I just started the editing thing like four days ago, so I'll probably try to write a few more updates out and see how things go before making any major decisions. I'll probably become more of a "co-writer" as time goes on.
>>82274735
>furshit waifu bait
well fuck that, it was cool before that
Fiddled around with the colours some more.
Current plot is that the girl has fled into the woods having found her unfortunate village scourged by a military liquidation team hoping to stamp out all that may have been effected by a cosmological event last night.
>>82275492
whoops forgot to attach image
>>82275058
You'd be fine with normal waifu bait?
I know this is /co/ but is web manga ok in these thread /a/ really doesn't have these kind of threads.
>>82274735
ohhhhhh okay that makes sense then. in that case, at some point you're going to have to analyze the aspects of society that come from being the crumbled shambles of a previously huge empire, where the STUFF in it still works, but nobody knows HOW it works (in many ways we're always perpetually in some form of that. look at coding)
>>82275040
actually i can see that being useful.. because of you, the artist can work on drawing, and not ahve to constantly go 'oh god oh god what am i going to write next? i have to write something NOW' you can help with that. i could certainly use help with that sorta thing
>>82275513
oooh very texturey.. you're going to shade it in the end, right? because that much line detail demands at least a little
>>82275893
Are you the creator..?
>>82276078
Will be
>>82275893
course it is. no matter what you're still you, so the shit you made is still /co/
When you're drawing digitally, the digital distractions become that much more intense. What is your most dangerous distraction?
A couple months ago I was playing way too much agar.io. Google that at your peril.
>>82277663
googled it. played one game. it's shit, i'm fine. if you seriously waste time on a braindead repetitive flash game instead of your comic, it's no wonder you're where you're at right now.
>>82277663
Where can I read your comic btw?
>>82277663
I end up wikiwalking about different types of birds since I'm drawing something related to them
WIP of the next page!
>>82278137
same old same old
>>82277985
I'd advise holding off until chapter 2 starts a bit but here you go.
http://www.chaosinthetropics.com/
>>82277663
right now it's xenoblade x
but in my defense i buy like 3 games a year, max. for the most part it isnt something i blow a lot of time on...
then again most games don't still have new content to huck at me 180 hours later
>>82278098
Oh I do this shit too, but with shit like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering
If there's any good bad habit, it's probably things like that.
This is dumb but I'm sharing it anyway. Friend commissioned me to draw Mimi and something related to Megaman.
>>82278137
in panel 2 i thought sarah's right nostril was her mouth. i liked it that way.
Heh, SD gettin marshmallowhell'd then accidentally gettin his grope on.
audience*
are those fiery dudes just burning them an arena? gotta say they don't impress me, these drawings. actually Sarge is looking worse too, I guess you're getting your main characters down a lot more solidly, lately, but the other characters are loosening. best keep an eye on it. sarge in particular with all his muscles would be a great way to practice your more realistic musculature
>>82278243
This was yours? Wow, shit.. ok. I remember this one.
Judging by the way some people here talk down to you, I thought you were just some amateur kid. Huh, and whaddya know.
>>82278469
Now that's a fuckin compliment. Gracias.
>>82278469
>just some amateur kid.
he is. his comic probably gets as much daily views as west tree. considering the art difference, he's doing something very wrong.
>>82275513
ooh I love this style
>>82278602
Especially you. I love you, brother, but you gotta bring it down a bit.
Anyway, where can I read your comic? If you got something good, I'm game.
>>82278362
the other night when i should have been sleeping, i looked up the difference between a fountain pen and a dip pen, because it was brought up in here and i had no idea they were different. turns out they're UTTERLY different and just look the same from a distance
twelve articles later i knew more about pens than i gave any fucks about
>>82278243
I remember last time there was a discussion about single page scrolling formatting and views. I was agreeing with you but I've never read your comic before until now. And I just opened it, read a bit, and closed it.
Isn't this format a little hard for you to gauge feedback if regardless of how much a person reads, they still register as 1 read? if it was split up, you could at least see where interest starts falling off.
Who else /procrastinating/ here?
>>82279121
it's hard to tell i'm doing it AS i do it. it's when i go to bed in 90 minutes and realize i've barely started on this comic, that's when i'll know
>>82279121
NEVER.
>>82278977
I said this last thread that most people who start, go all the way to the end. And if people were all dropping like flies at one beat, you think I couldn't investigate that as well? Aside from something like LOSS, has there really ever been single pages that dealbroke an entire series? Don't you also wonder how we got feedback when comics were printed and bought solely as multiple-paged issues?
I've gotten into some weird conversations about format before, but this angle is the weirdest.
>>82279316
>most people who start, go all the way to the end.
And no mention of how you measure this. Thanks for playing. I figured this was all rationalizations in your head.
>>82274574
I might be able to chip in depending. I've been out of the loop for a while though. What are you working on?
>>82278441
They're the Flamesmen, they're just clearing the snow out in the park.
Also, I've never really had a real grip on Sarge's character, I'm just trying new things out and seeing if they work. I was trying to make things more sharp and pointy, but I guess I'll have to try even harder if they seem loose.
>>82278379
Cute!
>>82279385
Google analytics. Also mentioned last thread.
>>82278379
I have been meaning to draw Mimi forever.
Hey guys, my last interactive adventure kinda lost steam and no body gave it commands anymore, should I start off with a simpler premiese for a CYOA or try and continue with my current one?
>>82279592
practice drawing
>>82279512
I would love that endlessly
>>82279592
if you want to do comics for you, for fun, that's on you.
you want other people to give a shit, then you already know what to do. and it's not create another poorly drawn CYOA that no one will care about
>>82279458
well i don't mean loose in the wobbly sense, but loose in the 'uncontrolled' sense
i'm not going to be all BOO YOU ARENT EVEN TRYING just because the art gets out of control, but I do obviously want to see you getting things a bit more screwed-down. and I know you're getting there. and in the meantime you're trying new things, and that's great. but trust me, experimentation only gets EASIER when you have more of a handle on making exactly what you want happen in the lines.
>>82279592
i honestly forgot all about that. i never did bookmark it.. i don't remember why either. should have.
i think you have a good enough interactive thing going on with the 'ask' blog
>>82280054
dewd. take a look at this guy. it's the classic "i've been meaning to".
But all that means is "i cared so little about it I didn't even register in my memory". don't you aspire to create something that makes people actually think "wow, yes! can't wait to see what happens"?
>>82280674
Yeah, I should make something more enticing.
how come dewd gets all the attention and life coaching?
>>82280869
Because he is dewd.
The man really doesn't care and he is having fun with his comics.
>>82280674
hey, don't put words in my mouth. i don't remember why I forgot. I guess I expected Dewd to keep posting it in here. There's a few comics in here I only 'follow' in the threads, including carrion girls.
>>82280869
because as much as he sucks, his improvement over a few years can only be described as meteoric. Imagine your sister has a kid, you're patting him on the head one day, saying he's getting so BIG for a 4 year old.. Then two or three years later you come see him again and he's a hormonal teenager with a dusty moustache. You're not exactly going to let him vote or join in adult activities, but you're still fucking impressed he grew so fast. He's not at your level but hot damn he's improving faster than you did at that level.
Whatever else it is, that's INTERESTING.
Also he's nice. That's all I ever ask of people.
>>82281048
Ok, here's a new adventure that's probably gonna be much simpler.
http://omegaupdate.freeforums.net/thread/196/day-peopleYes I'm using an MSPA forum, don't judge me.
>>82280869
squeakiest wheel. also he has a trip. so basically get a trip and start acting like a retard
>>82281164
much better idea, this way you have a forum of people to participate
anyone want to share some new tip they learned recently while working on their comic?
God damn I'm so close to the actual plot I just need to power through the next few page
>>82281786
.i thought this was a cat from the thumbnail
nice comics nerds. dead as fuck
>>82271218
>>82271333
>>82271681
As someone who has only ever used Photoshop and has also gotten used to it, what specifically do other programs do better?
Drawing my main character again with new proportion(7 heads tall instead of 5.5+ something heads tall).
What do you think of the design?
>>82283982
Why thank you
>>82284399
would bang
>>82284356
a) have a stabilizer
b) fucking run period. photoshop has a fucktastic memory leak problem, and you have to really baby it. plus good luck drawing at all zoomed out
basically all PS does well is color, and have lots of tutorials dedicated to its tools.
>>82284399
shit it's you again, hi
you have gotten noticeably better in subtle ways. palms and thumb placements look weird though
these are good proportions, i'd stick with these.
as for the design, i mean.. shit, she's pretty, and her hair makes sense in 3 dimensions now, but i've never been a fan of 'equestrian bitch' fashion
yo Von
I really wanna add this to the fanart page, but you said you wanted to save it properly so i didnt use this screenshot with the cursor and all?
You still doin that?
shit i could just edit it out
I also realize now who your art reminds me of, a combination of Tamdrin and Sir Grimmington (who needs to come back here again. we all miss him and his wrestletastic comic with its sharkmen and colleens and all)
>>82284543
>>82284646
Thanks
>>82284646
> palms and thumb placements look weird though
The thump bending is do able but it is not quite natural and comfortable, I might change it tho.
>i've never been a fan of 'equestrian bitch' fashion
I can see it now. Must be the boot and the tight white pant...
Redrew that Sketch from the last thread in an attempt to fix the perspective as one anon recommended. It's still not even close to being finished but I feel like a lot of progress was made.
Is there a list of comic publishers currently accepting scripts?
How about a resource for finding when contests are being held?
>>82284916
The perspective seems much better, now.
Still a few issues; if the squares on the screen are supposed to be all the same size, they don't appear that way. Pic related is a useful technique for that purpose.
Second, the forward-backward perspective lines don't line up. It's most obvious with the panels to the sides of the door on the bottom, where we should be able to see the inside surface of either the left, right, or both panels, but can see neither.
Anyone know where to buy those non-photo blues in Australia, preferably mechanical leads? I'd like to try them out and my local newsies don't seem to stock them.
>>82270716
are you tracing?
>>82268964
something about these pictures ..
do people hate on scribblehatch because s/he is living the dream while the butt hurt commenters are fiddling their thumbs thinking about how great their comic will be?
this person updates regularly and puts out pretty damn good work. the best ive seen on these threads
i almost think the community misses the point of these threads all together when they start hating on an artist that is ACTUALLY doing it
it just comes off as bitter butthurt
well, hate on while that guy lives it and you sit there thinking about it.
>>82286049
Posts like these don't help at all.
>>82285439
the squares wont be in the final product I just put it there to personally remind myself to keep that part transparent since an animation will be shown on it. That is a really useful tip though, I'll keep it in mind.
As for that second critique I'm not really sure how to fix it all without starting from scratch again but I did try to fix the door as shown. This image will only be used for a few seconds in an animated sequence so I'm not sure it warrants a complete redo again but I'll fix whatever individual details I can.
>>82286215
why? because its true?
>>82286049
>the best ive seen on these threads
You really think so?
Everything about the art seems so corner-cutting and low effort, especially since he stopped using colors. If he doesn't care enough about his own story to take time illustrating it, why should I care enough about it to read it?
>>82285912
No, but you bet I had to spend a ton of time in front of the mirror to get that leg right. What a pain in the ass that was. And I think it still looks a bit off, but well, that's life.
>>82286442
ah okay right on. it just looked like youre taking pictures of yourself and tracing over them in photoshop
you draw the human body so accurately!
>>82286410
its just obvious his biggest inspiration is ONe PIecem which, btw, is a corner cutting manga that is doing wonderful right now
check out pages from it and you can straight up see the influence
as for the coloring, i dont mind. he wasnt that great of a color artist imo. it looks more stylized and its own thing this way
>>82286323
No because it incites arguments.
Do you really think calling everyone who hates scribblehatch 'butthurt' is going to change their behaviour? Do you really think they'll do anything other than call you a scribblehatch lackey/scribs in disguise?
I actually agree with your points for the most part, but surely you can see that this post won't change a damn thing about what goes on in these threads.
>>82286520
Thanks. But of course I use reference pictures all the time. I don't trace, but definitely couldn't do as convincing poses as sometimes do without some sort of reference. Also gesture drawing really helps to get the hang of human body, I do that almost daily.
>>82286576
>>82286576
yeah, you are right. i just let my anger over the obvious get to me.
there are some haters in these threads that bully the better artists out of the picture
and THAT is pretty lame. imagine how many artists are lurking here not posting because of that
imagine if posters were only allowed to reply by posting a picture of OC with their comments
shit would change here
>>82275513
i'm VERY interested in this. interesting premise, cute girl and a nice moebius-esque style. please make a blog or something so i can keep up with this!
a friend of mine who ended up getting famous for his music told me
"never listen to things that are below the level youre trying to aspire to be, or you run the risk of stagnation"
i hated him for telling me that
but he was right. this works for so many things.
>>82286760
you're right but comments like yours on the other end don't help either. scribble acts VERY obnoxious by responding to every single post and ignoring people telling him to stop.
>>82286981
Dude should take his meds before going on /hyw/, I feel that's where the problem comes from
>>82279509
It would be much more accurate if your comic was updated page by page. Google Analytics can't tell you where on the page that person stopped reading with your stupid "beats" style of updating.
>>82286981
I get that someone's enthusiasm can annoy others, but it's really not a rational reason to shit on people. We are all welcomed here, especially the ones who already have their work out there.
>>82287388
damn playa. calm down. lets see your stuff, guy.
>>82287392
this.
>>82288556
Yep.
Do you people have any gimmicks or conscious or unintentional habits you do in your writing, concerning story, dialogue or whatever you've got? And I'm talking stuff like ''Bendis talk'' and stuff like that. And if you guys have any bad habits you recognize, share those aswell.
>tfw too dumb to actually come up with proper stories
building a world, sure, having events in that world, sure, having characters interact in a series of smaller events and react to their circumstances to in a coherent story? ha ha ha ha ha. no.
Bump.
Probably should've gone for a simpler background. Oh well, it looks neat.
>>82272313
makes me feel significantly less copy-ish from when /I/ did my thing
Still, can't be as copy-ish as the copy-copy i was going to do, back from like, November 2014. Full-on skyrim fanfic with a female khajiit as a main character
never got around to it
in anycase, prequel really seems to inspire people a lot
maybe it's just because it's the (second) most popular of it's format
>>82264390
I like how nobody's noticed the "wise words from John Cleese" video was changed to a Fawlty Towers clip.
>>82292112
You did.
>>82292112
No I noticed. >>82266960
its funny that scribblehatches stuff is actually easier to follow than onepiece
also
one piece breaks all the "rules" set by comic book standards ie no word bubbles over a characters face, to name the least
>>82292175
Good think I think Once piece looks like utter shit. Opinions on comics unwavered.
>>82292175
Alright, stop.
>>82292208
thats my point. just because this dick head right here says your comic sucks, does not mean you should listen to him. (besides the fact that he never posts his "superior" art work to yours)
14,102,521 volumes of one piece have been sold
>pic related
its odas art before he inks
>>82292315
Stop fucking responding to him you fucking idiot.
>>82292175
>>82292315
Come on, man. What was this about?
Just show us your superior comic already.
>>82292400
whatwould be the point? after lurking in these hywc threads for a few months i see how they run
real talent gets shit on for the most minute things. i would never know if my comic was actually good because it would get talked down by insecure artists.
or if it actually sucked, it would get talked up by people that are comfortable with me being where i am at because it doesn't challenge the level they are currently at
hywc was a great idea that has been found by cancerous asshats. it needed to be said and now im saying it.
>>82292955
You're not even wrong but everyone pretty much already knows this, and approaching it this way is just gonna get you accused of being Scrib.
Don't respond to the shitstirrer. That's really the only remedy.
>>82292955
Judging from your post, you are a fucking tool. People will shit on you regardless of quality of your comic because you are an idiot.
Here's the list people who never get """"" talked down"""""
And they post here regularly
>Space pirate.
>Carrion girl guy.
>Sisters comic dude.
>Miss melee's writer.
>Magi(rococo comic)
And several other guys
Care to explain this? I'll wait.
>>82292955
>real talent gets shit on for the most minute things
This doesn't seem to happen to Miss Melee, Green Knight, Fjordson, Sisters, Carrion Girls, Bug Quest, that thing Harrodeleted is doing now that Demon's Mirror is over, etc.
>>82292955
Alright friend. See what I mean? >>82293092
>>82293217
>>82293237
You didn't help anything.
>>82293092
yeah, youre right. i think what we need to really do is just give this kindof person a dismiss-able name. so whenever new artists show up to share their artwork with us and shitstirrer shows up just to bring them down, we can tell them not to think too much into it.
its definitely 2 different people doing it, but no more than that. this asshole isnt leaving these threads either, so something like
"oh thats just shitstain. he pops up in these threads to shit on talent because he hates his own work." would be great
or
"oh there is shit head! i didnt think he was going to post today, but, hey! look at that. right on que.
alright though. im over it. i just wanted to defend some artists in here, and some artists that are here just lurking that stopped posting because of people like this.
>>82293092
>>82293292
>You're not even wrong
You agree with him. So, Answer the question:>>82293217
>>82293292
youre right. they are who they are
but if scribblehatch is lurking, i spent a few hours defending you. because you are good. because you are on your way to being great.
this is for you man
start going to cons
get a table set up
interact with your community and keep going forward
you have accomplished so much, you should seriously be proud of yourself.
actually, you've accomplished so much, that a person has actually created a picture telling others not to talk to you because they cant handle someone actually "gettin' it"
you ARE a comic artist. you do the grind and dont let these scrubs bring you down. they cant stop what you got.
>>82293333
I'm beginning to think only assholes get trips, quads and quints. No we're not creating evil trickster gods that we blame all our problems on.
We did this with Bones. "Don't reply to Bones ever" It got to the point where because it wasn't obvious who Bones was anymore, that anyone causing any dissent, was Bones. Are they trolling? Bones. Do I not like what they're saying? Bones. BONES TURNED ME INTO A NEWT.
Just be sensible. And you see that guy right there? >>82293382 You don't respond to him either. I don't care how juicy it looks. This is being sensible.
>>82293515
Arrrgghh...
Yuck.
>>82293515
THAT'S QUITE ENOUGH.
>>82293333
>>82293333
Having left for a bit (albeit for unrelated reasons) negativity was easy to filter out. Coldfusion was the main one that bugged me, if anything. Posted asinine stuff without his trip, and you could always tell it was him.
>>82292955
There's so much I disagree with you, and frankly, don't understand, but I'd still be interested to see your art to get a better sense where you're coming from with your harsh comments.
I've noticed that if you leave the hostile attitude, people aren't as hostile towards you. There are many good artists and writers here, who aren't in anyway involved with the not-so-nice happenings, just because they stay professional.
I've posted my stuff here for the past couple of days, and I haven't faced shit or praise. I've done my best to be one of you guys, be part of the community, leave comments and questions for others and overall be a decent human being. And that's how keep yourself out of trouble.
Anyway, if you don't want to post your comic, just share art, or writing.. something, anything. I think it's nice to actually see the art of the person I'm talking to.
>>82293791
>stay professional
All professional means is 'paid to do'.
>I've posted my stuff here for the past couple of days, and I haven't faced shit or praise.
If you stick around long enough with strong enough opinions on anything, you will have enemies.
And those enemies will attack you on any aspect, especially in public.
>>82293864
>If you stick around long enough with strong enough opinions on anything, you will have enemies. And those enemies will attack you on any aspect, especially in public.
Scribb, take your meds. Or even better, go to the nuthouse and stay there.
>>82293864
>If you stick around long enough with strong enough opinions on anything, you will have enemies.
Sometimes people are dicks. That's why you put your big boy pants on and ignore them. Arguing in a place like this does nothing but make both parties look retarded.
>>82294019
Don't reply to me, dumdum. Did I give you such permission?
>>82293791
Be careful man, he might stoop low and start false flag shitting on you just to "prove" his point about the "haters"
>>82294088
i wont. i am here to defend artists, not cripple their day.
>>82294262
Fucking moron, you responded. You may as well have stuck fresh almonds in a starving terrorist's mouth.
Poor from form the lot of you. You will be hearing from me via email.
>>82294302
>You may as well have stuck fresh almonds in a starving terrorist's mouth.
Kek, is this a common expression from where you live or something?
Absolute madness.
>>82294461
Almonds are all the terrorists eat in their mountain caves.
They're a great source of all the essential nutrients. They don't need to be prepared, and they store well.
>>82284715
Sorry sorry! I actually re-touched it a bit yesterday and forget to post it again OOOPS.
Man, what a day, today I told my boss I am leaving the office to pursue a career doing comics and I feel like I took one of those big steps on life. I feel weird
Oh and nice, I'll check them
>>82294534
You just activated my almonds.
>>82294598
Eh.. Work on it.
>>82286576
>>82286760
feelin good about posts like these
Fiddled around more with the colours to suggest a more tropical/jungle type of forest.
Still not sure about the soldiers armour colours - I wanted to get the idea of a kind of walking-lobster in visuals.colouring is hard
>>82286803
I'll get around to it once I have more to show. It'd be silly to start up something without at least a mini story to show
>>82289555
I write however i'm inspired to write.. which unfortunately means it changes over time. i miss all my animu honorifics and shit but i just dont read enough fanfiction or chat with enough weeaboos for that to still be part of my lexicon.
but you know it's okay for something to be a time capsule, it doesn't make it unpleasantly dated if you were never trying to be hip in the first place
>>82290864
i think i had a dream or a half-awake idea that longnosey one put the death pants on her face with the nose poking the penis out, and there was a difference in the amount of humor found in it by all parties involved
Do you guys see this post?
>>82264402
There's a reason this post exists. Heed its words. Don't be the guy jumping into the lake to save a drowning man when you can't even swim yourself.
>>82294019
You'll notice they are being ignored by the target, but not by all the other participants of this thread.
>>82292112
roffle.
okay jeez, here's the clip so the next person can fix it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0lck7oo4A
>>82293217
actually people have gotten really hard on carriongirls for 'values', something which baffles me when its coloring is still clearly fantastic and needs little if any help. the help it did need (at the time) was in separating out the panels, but i was the only one pushing that, and eventually it solved itself.
>>82292955
t. someone who's never actually looked at /hyw/ outside of posts about scribblehatch
>>82293544
it's one of those things where you realize that in the end it doesn't matter what side people are on, what they espouse, if they're crazy fucking nutters then nothing good will come of it.
i think society is slowly realizing that lately.
>>82294534
uh, FRESH almonds are toxic..
>>82294590
wow dude. brave. braver than me.
but yknow, at this quality level.. i think you can make it.
just never be afraid to metaphorically suck dick, and network like a desperate friendless teenage girl. that's how you make it now.
>>82295661
In that case it's fine.
>>82295276
definitely looks lobstery, though remember only cooked lobsters are red. but if you made him as dark as a real one he'd be almost a silhouette, so this is fine. looks nice n rusty
>>82295376
>implying "don't mention the war" is NOT wise words
I've been a good boy tho.
A g'boy.
But really tho, do your best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELv8yBJi-Kc
>>82295830
heh, if only germany would mention it maybe the rest of us wouldn't have to
