How come there were no Muslims in Agrabah?
>>84558525
It takes place before Islam was a thing
>>84558525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_SX-FiXbKs
Seriously OP?
>>84558525
The sultan literally praises Allah
>>84558525
We don't know that.
>>84558547
Then why does his hot daughter dress like a whore ?
>>84558525
They are Shia Muslims!
>>84558555
How else would we know she's pretty princess?
>>84558555
Because she doesn't leave the palace, (without sneaking out).
>>84558525
Why would there be?
I'm pretty sure everyone in Agrabah was a muslim.
>>84558525
Y'know how I know you went to public school?
>>84558555
Same reason most Christians' daughters dress like whores.
>>84558555
There were quite decadent muslim rulers in medieval times who were quite lax in how they viewed religion and only really used it as a tool to retain power.
Plus, we never see any wife or concubines around, so he likes to oggle at his own daughter, that old fox.
>>84558593
Because he made an obvious bait topic that a bunch of idiots fell for? Don't think that's an indication of a public school education.
>>84558525
Because agrabah far far away is literally hell
>>84558667
You mean religion is a tool used to control the masses? HOLY POOP WHAT A SCOOP
>>84558593
Sorry some of us couldn't afford your fancy home schoolin rich boy, but that don't mean I can't talk good none
>>84558697
Shh...Can't say that on a christian imageboard.
>>84558697
Right ? Religion is for dumb people. Free thinkers like ourselves control our own destiny
>>84558525
Because Aladdin is actually in India
>>84558742
Slow down there slugger, I never said controlling the masses was inherently bad. If a guy isn't slaughtering people because he fears retribution from some asshole in space, that's a good thing. And it's not like atheists are automatically smarter than the religious. Fact is everyone is controlled or conditioned by something or other.
>>84558667
For centuries the muslims who came to western Europe would drink freely because according to them Allah doesn't see in Europe, since it's not muslim land.
>>84558757
I've never meet a dot head named Aladdin
>>84558781
>Allah doesn't see in Europe
Source? That sounds hilarious.
>>84558772
Right, kiddo. Except for us rationalists. Religion controls a dummies. We forge ahead because of our own self interest
>>84558667
then again we know what happened to decadent rulers eventually
so unless Aladdin manned the fuck up Agrabah got wrecked by turks and/or mongols not long after the movies are set
>>84558805
You don't read so good, huh sport
>>84558787
I guess Chinese and not Indian . My mistake
>>84558821
Hey m8. What's with dumb Christians not reading posts. They should be smart like us
>>84558802
Obviously that's just a drunk excuse. Pretty sure in Muslim canon Allah sees everywhere.
>>84558525
It's a sanitised liberal depiction of foreign cultures.
>>84558814
what kind of army elects "General Street Rat" to lead them?
![jasmine-rags[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ilS2gR0.jpg "jasmine-rags[1].jpg")
>>84558555
When she snuck out, she dressed more modestly.
No school of Islamic law says that women have to cover up in their private quarters.
>>84558781
Or they were just the ruling class and believed that rules don't apply to THEM, just like in every other country. Just like all the "princes" of modern Saudi Arabia who wrack up 10000 dollar bills in bars every night.
>>84558839
I agree. Maybe then they could appreciate the finer things in life. like furry bara. I'm glad you and I can appreciate true beauty.
>>84558781
Why are they killing Europeans then
>>84558868
given how lax and incompetent the previous sultan was I'm pretty sure the army was happy to get anyone who even remotely knew how the real world worked in charge
sure he'd still be terrible at anything resembling warfare but at least he'd not be the idiot who thinks any conflict can be solved with diplomacy and parties
>>84558878
Point of clarification. The ultra reactionaries don't believe women can own property, so they don't have their own private quarters. It belongs to the designated male, and she can only do that with his permission.
>>84558878
>Thought she was just wrapping up so people didn't recognize her
>It was actually so she wouldn't be arrested and stoned to death
>>84558868
Sounds like a joan of arc thing.
>>84558814
Well, do you see Agrabah on the maps these days?
The Sultan was a weak ruler. I mean, he lets a street urchin bang his daughter and is alright with it and lets Jafar run his realm, even though that guy is obviously untrustworthy.
>>84558909
>the idiot who thinks any conflict can be solved with diplomacy and parties
you have to learn to live with terror attacks anon, this is the new normal
>>84558867
Then again, they actually introduced the concept of chopping of hands for stealing when Jasmine was taking that apple.
>>84558915
One of the greatest and most admired (by the muslims and christians of his era) was Saladin, who was a Kurd and started out life as basically nobody.
>>84558923
ironically a successful coup by Jafar would have been the best guarantee for Agrabah's future
>>84558555
Good taste.
>>84558948
>Guards! Arrest this one and put him in the dungeon.
>>84558948
Jafar with Genie powers would have rekt the mongols at the gates, while Aladdin free'd the Genie to go on wacky, self-indulgent adventures with him.
Jafar was power hungry, but a capable administrator. Aladdin was a manchild who ran the place into the ground. But alteast he got princess pussy I guess.
>>84559004
Aladdin was probably well meaning but lacked the experience and influence to truly undo decades of mismanagement and focused his efforts on improving the situation of the less fortunate rather than strengthening the city's military and diplomatic position.
Would have been fine had the previous sultan been capable but as we know he was a decadent incompetent idiot
Islam is nothing but a vehicle for Arab cultural supremacy. At least in its original incarnation. It's mostly just stories from older religions re-tooled to favor Arabs. The idea that Ishmael (believed to be the ancestor of Arabs) received the covenant instead of Isaac, the idea that the true word if god is only revealed in Arabic, the idea that an Arab state was commissioned by god to take over the world in their name.
>>84558868
Egyptians during the caliphate?
>>84558525
Oh, I come from a land, from a faraway place
Where the caravan camels roam
Where it's flat and immense
And the heat is intense
It's barbaric, but hey, it's home
Oh, I come from a land, from a faraway place
Where the caravan camels roam
Where they cut off your ear
If they don't like your face
It's barbaric, but hey, it's home
When the wind's from the east and the sun's from the west
And the sand in the glass is right
Come on down stop on by
Hop a carpet and fly
To another Arabian night
Arabian nights, like Arabian days
More often than not
Are hotter than hot
In a lot of good ways
Aladdin - Arabian Nights Lyrics
>not islamic
>>84558555
This was before Wahabism was a thing you dumb Saudi fuck.
>>84558772
He was pretty badass when he put on the cursed armour of Kileem. He killed a minotaur with his hands and was gonna execute his daughter for...reasons.
But Agrabah exists at the same time as ancient greeks...?
>>84559211
Go fuck yourself queerboy.
>>84559004
>But alteast he got princess pussy I guess.
well so did all the mongols
What would you have voted?
>>84559231
Just pointing out that something is off with the timeline here...
>>84559231
he is right, there was a cartoon hercules crossover if I can recall
>>84559142
If only the catholics were not castrated warring with the protestant heathens they could have prevented this.
>>84559262
Should have gone with Richard's plan to capture Egypt instead of Jerusalem, to cut the Muslim world in two. But, that didn't have the significance of capturing Jerusalem in the crusader's eyes.
>>84559233
maybe Al is into that
>>84559296
doubt they kept him alive long enough to enjoy it
skull pyramids don't just build themselves you know
>>84558525
How the hell do you feed a city that large in the middle of a desert?
>>84559004
The Agrabah has the genie and Sultan has super powered Armor that even Genie couldnt poof away in the TV series, the mongols would be hard pressed to take Agrabah.
>>84559262
by the time protestantism came around Islam already had spread for around 800 years. Sassanids and Byzanz not crippling each other could've prevented this if anything.
>>84559306
Years as a street rat have taught him how to hide when shit gets rough. He probably went into some secret corner of the palace and fapped furiously as things unfolded.
And then the mogols burned the whole place down.
>>84558525
Fish? They seem to be close the ocean since Aladdin is dumped into the drink wrapped in sackcloth.
>>84559248
not to mention one of the villains were clearly an ancient greek (the inventor).
>>84559355
and the street vendor that caught Jasmine stealing was gonna cut her hand of (sharia law)
Modern muslim princess when, Disney?
>>84558525
It's pre-islamic arabia.
>>84558525
It's set in the future.
>>84558912
She's still showing hair and has make up visibile, the harlot.
>>84560458
So Agrabah is actually the best possible outcome for the UK?
>>84558555
The extreme hardcore Muslim sect was pretty small until about 30-40 years ago. They weren't nearly as strict about enforcing their rules before that.
>>84560518
>The islamisation of the west turns out to be a good thing.
>>84559355
>have fish
>must mean they're close to the ocean
Have you ever heard of kansas?
>>84560581
Admittedly, the merchant is selling them as "fresh" as well as something his business catches.
It's debatable if a fish can be considered "fresh" if it has to go on a three night trip via camel to get to market after being caught.
>>84560573
>Good thing
Anon, Agrabah is kind of a shithole for anyone not rich. It's only real redeeming factor is that it's still nowhere near as bad as current Islamic countries. That's why I said "best possible outcome."
>>84558731
>>84558547
Allah just means God in Arabic its not nessacerly Islamic
>>84560627
that's when you market it as "fresh as can be" and tell people to take it up with god/the camels if they don't think what's physically possible is good enough.
>>84558781
Cheeky fuckers.
>>84558525
Because it took place in China.
>>84558555
Islam hasn't always been the way it is today. It's going through an extremely reactionary period at present.
>>84558525
Let's say humanity achieves space-travel and terraforming.
Which societies do you think would make awesome new cities?
I think a planet filled with buildings like Aladdin's palace (or the Sultan's palace I suppose) would look pretty neat.
All the old paintings on the tombs: they do the sand dance, don't you know.
>>84560892
>Agrabah is kind of a shithole for anyone not rich
Sounds like London
>>84560458
Where did this theory originate from?
Reminder that she exists.
>>84561577
Genie impersonates modern celebrities and makes some comment about being trapped for 10 thousand years, which is kind of odd because the place he's trapped in is way beyond the capabilities of humanity from approximately 9000ish BC.
In reality it's just because Robin Williams is famous for doing impressions and because script writers have no real concept of time or history, there's no deeper conspiracy.
reminder Aladdin is Chinese
I JUST CAN SAY SALAAAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHtry4zxN3c
>>84561433
>It's going through an extremely reactionary period at present.
No. It's more like Wahabist and Salafists are ascendant due to the crisis of modernity and Saudis having oil. Of course their solution are in turn are unrealistic.
>>84558530
for some idiotic reason, second post is honestly the best post but nobody realizes it.
>>84558781
reminds me of the jews inventing appliances that work in specific ways to get around the rules about working on the sabbath
>>84561699
Wahabists and salafists are ascendant today because the United States preferred them over mroe progressive arabs back in the 50s, because they were worried about the region siding with the communists. Better radical conservatives than red.
>>84558555
If you're referring to hijabs and burkhas, that's a tribal thing, not a muslim thing.
>>84558537
Allah is just the word for God in that area of the world. Islam didn't originate it.
>>84561807
So then do you think he's a Christian or a Jew?
>>84561784
Which is a shame. Considering that blue jeans and Western media did more to defeat communism than arming reactionary dictators.
In the Friend Like Me song, genie makes specific reference to mid-day prayers, which is a thing in Islam.
>>84561906
It was definitely intended to be set in the Islamic era. They were just being a bit coy about religious references. Disney's US audience had a different perception of Islam back then. For young people, it was this far away thing that didn't matter to them. For older people, Islam was suspicious since they remembered things like the Iran hostages, Munich olympics etc.
Aladdin was as much Islamic as Hunchback of Notre Dame was Christian.
Disney makes secular cartoons.
>>84561784
>because the United States preferred them over mroe progressive arabs
It's not just the US, Anglo politicians in general love their murderous lawless asshole fundies.
>>84561752
Certain monasteries built underground cellars that extended beyond the monastery perimeter.
During fasting no one is allowed to eat certain things at certain time intervals on certain days. Monks would then go to the cellar and eat everything they want because they believed that the fasting rule only applies within monastery walls.
>>84561297
They had salt to preserve food then but salt was expensive as fuck so not everyone has access to it.
>>84561610Genieconfused me more as a kid.
>>84558525
Either it was set before the rise of Islam, or the citizens of Agrabah just didn't make as big a deal of it as the religious wackjobs do now.
>>84561725
Probably because it's wrong.
>>84558525
Rumor has it the movie is supposed to take place in a post apocalyptic future, so maybe muslims finally got it through their dense peabrains that what they were doing to women wasn't all that nice.All it took was World War 3
>>84558781
I prefer the Egyptian workaround.
>Quran says something like "thou shall not drink a drop of alcohol"
>they get a drink, put the tip of their finger in it, take out one drop of the drink
>drink
>>84561807
"Allah" is the Abrahamic God. Any generic god or deity is " 'ilah ".
Allah is short for "Al-'ilah" - "The god"
>>84562677
>Literally trolling God
top kek
>>84562654
>rumor
You mean shitty fan theories on par with "they're actually dead and the movie takes place in purgatory".
>>84558948
Aladdin should have used Jafar the genie to wish for competent advisors
>>84558912
Again, Aggrabah was long before Wahabbism became widespread
>>84559235
They have Genie Tech, a stray wish could destroy the universe.
Glass them, find the lamp, throw it into a black hole
>>84558851
Not in post-crisis
>>84559172
What is Islamic about this song?
>>84559172
pre-islamic arabia was pretty barbaric, so much than Islam actually fixed some things in the region.
>>84562617
Islam has had different levels of severity in different places and times.
Look at Afghanistan or Iran before the 70's or so. They were Muslim but it certainly wasn't a shithole. That wasn't until the hardcore fundamentalist groups got into power.
>>84558923
It's an anagram of Baghdad.
>>84558923
Agrabah probably got wiped out by the Mongols. Imagine Sultan Aladdin being wrapped up by his magic carpet and then getting stomped to death by hundreds of Mongols.
>>84561351
This.
If I'm not mistaken, Agraba is based on the Middle Easter conception of China in that era.
>>84561351
>>84563256
The tale is really like only two centuries old, and even then there are no covert Chinese references in the work IIRC, other than it's ostensibly set in Cathay. It's otherwise laced with Islamic references and prayers.
Of course it could be set in Turkestan.
How are people not bored of posting this shit yet.
>>84563367
Becuase we are living in the age of stagnation/decline/decadence and also, becuase you touch yourself at night you perverted creature you.
>>84561281
so which religion does he follow?
>>84558742
Lol yes free thinkers who have control over their own destiny who frequent a site full of scum and villainy and wank it to loli.
So PROGRESSIVE!
>>84563573
Islam you fool....
That anon is a pseudo intellectual
>>84558781
In the Qur'an Allah literally says he's the all hearing, all seeing. How do you get around that?
>>84559235
I just realized there's no option that makes you look like you know it's from Aladdin.
>>84564059
Some muslims interpret that the Quran only applies to muslims, and I guess from there you can argue that Allah doesn't see non-muslim places (since his all-seeing law would only apply to muslim places).
>>84558781
To this day, Chechens drink at night because Allah is sleeping
>>84563194
There is no R in Baghdad and no Ds in Agrabah.
>>84563094
Just...get out.
>>84564272
Ah, so the influx of Muslims to the west is because Allah's bored of Middle Eastern and Indonesian television?
>>84558530
This right here.
>>84558547
Coul've been the pre-Islamic, pagan Arabic moon-deity.
Allah was a thing before Islam, just like Yahweh (or something like it) was a thing before Judaism.
>>84562654
That's just retarded overanalyzers misinterpreting Genie's 4th wall breaking pop-culture references, forgetting that he's fucking magic.
>>84566227
noice
>>84562654
Sure. I bet Aladdin is actually in a coma the whole movie, too!
>>84560521
>The extreme hardcore Muslim sect was pretty small until about 30-40 years ago
>>84567332
Oh please, don't stop there. Educate us with your enlightened knowledge of Islamic history.
>>84560892
>kind of a shithole for anyone not rich
You mean like everywhere?
>>84562654
is that you Chris Buck? Are you still trying to convince people that the stupid Tarzan is related to Anna and Elsa fan theory is real?
>>84558530
It was made before Americans knew Islam was a thing
>>84565858
>tfw you find out Yahweh used to be a Caananite deity, son of El, before the Israelites gained traction and retconned El and Yahweh to be the same person
Christians don't even know the half of it.
>>84561281
Not exactly. Allah refers to "the god," al-lah. Lah would otherwise refer to gods. And they were a pantheistic people before Mohamed. The idea of referring to god as "the god" was done to separate the Abrahamic god that they were intended to worship from the other (fake) gods.
Reminder that Jafar is the bastard son of the sultan.
>>84572614
What are you talking about?
That's not even in the original myth.
>>84572614
Look, kiddo. Once Upon a Time in Wonderland got canned after a season because it was utter shit, and nobody appreciates your making a reference to it here.
They were Disney Muslims, OP, like the non-racist less brutish brown Hawaiians in Lilo and Stitch were Disney Hawaiians.
>>84565858
> the pre-Islamic, pagan Arabic moon-deity.
you left out the fact that the ancient Arabs worshipped no such deity, the crescent is not and has never actually been an islamic symbol
>>84570902
>son of El
>>84577842
DEEPEST LORE
>>84558525
Because Americans anon. It really is obvious that it was set in a time when Islam is a thing but because of ignorants Americans. Boom you got Aladdin.
>>84558547
Islam didn't invent the word "Allah." In fact, most of the things in the quran were not invented by Islam.
>>84577842
Shit nobody tell Snyder.
>>84578081
Of course the Quran didn't invent it. The Quran is here to set things straight. If Christianity didn't get corrupted, Islam wouldn't even be here.
...So Agrabah is NOT muslim after all
>>84558893
so sempai will finally notice
>>84558525
Either OP didn't pay attention to the movie or is just b8ing.
>>84561752
Like what? I know some hotels set elevators to automatically stop at every floor but that's done before the sabbath begins. And anything else they need done, they hire a Christian to do it.
>>84565858
You forget the fact that Disney didn't spend all this time wondering whether the "Praise Allah" line referred to the moon deity.
Most likely it meant the muslim God. Which is fine by me because Muslims in the past weren't goatfucking backwards dicks as they are now.
Hence why we get hot af Jasmine.
>>84578556
Not that anon but they can't press buttons during Sabbath iirc, so they made some kind of phone that doesn't use buttons but something that is practically buttons.
I saw it in a comedic documentary a long time ago though. They showed other things but I don't remember anything else.
>>84558555
You know shit. You're an uneducated idiot that's easy to govern.
>>84558781
Spoilers ahead:All rulers are atheists.
>>84558912
>me in the back
>>84559355
Does that look like fresh fish to you?
Also rivers.
>>84559385
I'm pretty sure this was common practice older than the corpus of Sharia
>>84564451
I hope you feel ashamed and dumb.
>>84562404
>believed that the fasting rule only applies within monastery walls.
So...
in this way of thinking, fasting is LOCATION-dependent?
>>84561842
True. And here we are. Fearful and still not having flying cars. It's like we live in cyber punk times without the perks and all the tech gadgets. I feel cheated.
>>84561281
if he had been a european style king prasising God you would just accept that he was christian.
>>84563033
>>84579521
yes, arabs were so bad that islam was an improvement in areas
think about that
>>84579521
maybe in ARAB territories, but remember that the rest of the middle east was not arab at that point.
Allah and God are basically the same shit.
T. Turk
>>84578221
>Implying he didn't know all along
>>84558555
We never said he was a good Muslim.
>>84559385
>they still cut peoples' hands off to this very day
>>84580049
yes, well. americans still cut the dick off their kids
>>84563367
What shit?.
>>84579335
Yes.
>>84558525
I recall the sultan say, "praise allah" and made multiple allah references.
>>84579360
Sure, that kind of kingdoms all took place after Christianity was founded. But Aladdin takes place long before the year ~600 or so, time when Islam slowly started being a thing.
>>84558530
No it doesn't islam gets mentioned multiple times in the movie.
the genie mentions evening prayers, the orginal version of the opening song mentions the laws of Hammurabi, and there are a few mentions of allah as well.
>>84558555
Perks of royalty
>>84583406
Hammurabi's code has literally nothing to do with Islam and predates it by over 2000 years.
>>84558525
/POL /POL GET OFF MY FUCKING BOARD AND GO BACK TO YOUR HOME.
JANITORS I SUMMON THEE GET RID OF THIS /POL FAGGOTRY
