>Iceman is Gay?
>>84548010
>inb4 closet meme
Jean grey forced the gayness upon him, because she's really a super villain
>>84548228
This.
It's true, all Marvel characters are puppets of a handfull of telepaths.
And WonderWoman is secretly a brainraped sex slave to Dr. Psycho.
And Superman is secretly a brainraped sex slave to Brainiac.
And Batman's just mega-gay. (that's a secret)
>>84548010
If women looked like that then I'd be gay too.
>>84548010
No OP is the faggot in this thread
>>84548228
>tfw no Martian Manhunter to stop evil telepaths
Sad Marvel.
>>84550691
We had moondragon but she kinda turned into a moondragon =^(
>>84548081
Thank God, someone on /co/ knows that there's no such thing as "in the closet".
Really, it's not as if there's a society-wide presumption that all children are heteronormal to begin with,
or that there's a society-wide presumption that those same children are bad and should be punished if they're not,
and it's not as if there's people online to this day deliberately being cruel to anyone who dares to admit that they're gay,
so ultimately it's obvious that there's no possible motivation for something like "in the closet" to even exist.
It's such a meme that the world is anything like THAT, right? Right? Right? Right?
>>84551209
Right.But seriously do you honestly believe Bobby was in the closet these past decades? Or even in the beginning of Bendis' run
It was so horribly handled and can easily be read as >>84548228. Fuck Bendis. And that's not even getting into that the obvious character in the X-Men to 'out' was Magik.
>>84551339
I just don't think they're ready to have a character who's openly attracted toher brother
>>84551271
I actually do (honestly) think >>84548228 is right, but is blaming the wrong telepath.
Think about the X-Men's mission plan: to make mutants acceptable to all the normies by pretending they're no different than The Avengers or The Fantastic Four.
And Professor X did just this kind of crap all the time.
>>84548228
>a woman being the undeniably horrible antagonist in modern Marvel
wotta joke, anon
>>84551438
That aside, Magik could pretty plausibly be confirmed as gay.
>>84552386
That should read; "... blaming the wrong telepath for the wrong thing."
oops
>>84548228
>Jean forced Bobby into being gay
>Jean forced Storm to wear clothes
Is Jean the biggest villain in X-Men history?
>>84552486
Only that?
She spent half her childhood in a magic pervert's private Hell dimension.
She's undoubtedly sampled the goods of all the different flavors.
I'm thinking she's a post-Hellrape-experience-insane amoral omnisexual.
The Cenobites from Hellraiser are probably her last serious longterm romatic relationship.
>>84552967
I don't disagree but lol, Marvel is never publishing that.
>>84548228
Why doesn't she make everyone gay? What good does only making Bobby gay do for Jean?
>>84548228
>Jean grey forced the gayness upon him
>>84553788
Well of course not, Marvel doesn't own the rights to Hellraiser.
>>84553878
Making Bobby gay was obviously somehow critical to the Phoenix Force. Or she was bored at the time.
>>84552386
Professor a shit but he's let far less acceptable things openly serve on the team.
Jean just totally wanted a gay best friend and the rest of the O5 was relegated to pet penises, Bobby was the only one left to mindrape.
>>84552386
The hilarious part about the young X-men is that Professor X has already wiped their minds of their time travel experience when they eventually get back. It's exactly the kind of thing he'd do back then.
>>84548010
>bisexuals don't exist
>>84553878
The "theory" has been that it's a petty abuse of power on a punitive feminist whim.
Of course, there's much bigger jerks there that she should have been targeting and it's not as if Bobby's any less annoying when he's gay...
So even if you think all women are evil just because, AND that one of the X-Men is bigoted enough to think being gay is a punishment in itself, AND that she could actually pull it off discreetly in a team full of telepaths, the meme doesn't hold water.
>>84554288
Are there more L/G comics characters than bi ones?
>>84554349
I could believe Jean is bigoted enough to think that while also being really condescendingly nice to gay people she knows. Jean is a horrific person.
>>84553878
She just wanted a gay friend.
>>84554349
>Punitive
Nah, she's not punishing Bobby. Bobby's happiness or misery doesn't factor into it at all.
>>84554362
There's probably more bi characters, actually. There's a shitload of them.
>>84554288
Not according to Marvel, given the Herc retcon and them not just saying Bobby's bi.
>>84554392
Yeah, that's the crux of the matter. The theory is predicated on Jean being a giant asshole, which she totally is.
>>84554448
>Retcon
It wasn't a retcon it was an editor who didn't know dick speaking like he did.
>>84554428
She was angry that Bobby was the only one of the O5 who didn't want to fuck her. She wasn't interested in him, but he had to suffer for that slight.
>>84554548
>You don't want me? THEN I GUESS YOU DON'T WANT ANY WOMAN!That actually seems like a really good idea for a villain. A telepath that's just ridiculously petty and low ambition. They always eem to be some high brained mastermind type
>>84554362
Kinda.
Harley Quinn, Ivy, Hercules (pre-retcon), She-Hulk, all Skrulls ever, Moondragon, Mystique, Daken, The Joker, Storm, Aurora, and I'm forgetting a few.
It's easier to write a character as "experimenting" or "depraved" rather than just take the heat from the opinionated nutjobs and say they're just gay.
Look at the shit that hit the fan with Iceman and before him, Northstar.
Also, for titilation's sake there's an allowance for lez, the audience being mostly pubescent boys...
>>84554548
But Jean, that's unfair! The only reason he wasn't interested was because he's gay!
>>84551030
Moondragon raped Thor and forced an entire planet to be her slaves
Although he's a cis white male, Bendis is still commendable for his extensive efforts in addressing the White Question in comics. Too long has the cast of Marvel been problematic so now he's making it diverse, I mean it's 2016 people! Iceman is no longer cishet scum, Iron Man is a smart young woman of color, and Spiderman is a boy of color who is younger and better than Peter white fuckboi Parker. Now all Bendis has to do is make Reed Richards a proud transgender woman!
>>84555809
.Wrong team's leader. .
>>84555993
but it has to be Mr Fantastic. Imagine, the smartest person in comics is a transwoman, that would be a huge victory for us
>>84550691
"Don't worry, heroes from another world. I'll just simply read her mi-"
>>84556420
"AAAAAAAUUUUGGGGHHH"
>>84548010
Has anyone attempted making Johnny Storm gay yet? The two have really similar personalities anyways
>>84554717
>Northstar
Literally who.
>>84556495
Well, he IS currently dating someone who's really hairy...
>>84556542
Canadian superhero mutant from Alpha Flight, he used to fly around with his headcase twin sister.
>>84556495
>Johnny x Bobby
Human torch melts Iceman's boypussy. Tell me you wouldn't read it
>>84554717
She-Hulk and the Joker are bi?
>>84556623
A flaming dick? Best "death of ____" issue EVER!
>>84556709
>Iceman has an orgasm as he dies and cums ice
>>84556678
She-Hulk is a wildwoman, the girl parties. Last I heard there was this Skrull lady she met online...
And if you haven't noticed The Joker flirting with Batman yet, I don't know what more to tell you. He's not subtle.
>>84556576
>>84556623
Don't tempt them with clickbait ideas. I'm still waiting for bi Iceman
>>84556762
You're stereotyping with Jen there and have no proof from the comics to back up this claim.
The Joker is insane and it's hard to take his shit seriously.
>>84555809
Faiza is cool at least
>>84555809
>most characters are replaced
>squirrel girl and she hulk are just drawn poorly
>>84557081
drawn fatter
It's intentional, have to be less fatphobic and transfatphobic
>>84556453
"Miss Grey? I need your help to make Batman gay so he will FINALLY rape the Joker."
>>84555809
When do we get a "Days of Future Past" version of this?
>>84557562
Wait, what Robin was never Robin now?
>>84548010
Why do you post Marvel Adventures Iceman when talking about E-616 one?
>>84553878
She was tired of him having lewd thoughts about her.
>>84558334
Was he actually done?
>>84557924
tim
in the new 52 he failed to join the dots about bruce and batman but decided to become red robin anyway and batman let him on the team for reasons
>>84552386
>The one thing I always feared... BACKWARDS NEWSPAPERS!
>>84558368
Except in RHatO he and Jason chat for a while about knowing Bruce is Batman, living at Wayne Manor for years and how Alfred is apparently really shit at making pancakes (but good at waffles?).
>>84556757
>Iceman has an orgasm as he dies and cums slush
Fixed
>>84555993
i really like when scott and logan have moments like this.
>>84556130
Rightclops is the smartest person in comics. Here the only one that doesn't fuck up at every opportunity right now.
>>84558334
To be honest that's kind of her fault. She put the idea out there, of course he'll immediately think of it.
>>84559251
^He's
>>84559278
>>84559264
Fuck you. You good damn damn pig control your thoughts RRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE3EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>84559282
>>84559278
>>84559282
>>84559287
Why do you have to hurt us?a
>>84559287
Just look at all that repressed homosexuality. You can see it tearing him up inside. Why won't they just let him express himself as the gay man he so obviously is?
>>84559504
There's men who married and had kids before they came out of the closet, anon
>>84559546
>You can't know until we decide for you
>>84559621
You seem insecure. Anything you'd like to share? It's alright, no one here knows you
Why Emma Frost is better than Jean Grey mini storytime
>>84551209
"in the closet" is just how they refer to impressionable young people before they're brainwashed into degeneracy by secular mass media
>>84556623
>>84556709
>>84556757
>>84556764
Sun Boy/Polar Boy is the superior ship.
>>84559892
end
Bendis not only made Bobby retroactively gay, he made Emma look better than Jean by not outing him even when she was in his mind.
>>84559921
>retroactively
It was there since X-Men #1 :^)
>>84555809
That's a wildly misleading image. Most of those characters haven't been replaced and are still published regularly. And if you're going to update for nu-Iron Man you need to update Wally, get rid of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman, etc.
Whoever made this is an idiot.
>>84560093
Whatever SJW shill
>>84555809
But Batman got replaced by an old straight cis white male that's a cop. That's probably the sjw's most hated combination.
While men in the closet is a very real thing, it can't basically lead you to twisting any straight male character as "they were repressed the entire time".
Bobby fell victim because he had no real iconic love interest.
>>84559278
What a perfect reference to Pryde of the X-Men.
So that means the xmen movie is about the platonic relationship between a gay man and a bisexual woman? Honestly that sounds better than another shoe-horned romance.
>>84561225
>Bobby fell victim because he had no real iconic love interest.
let's not pretend Bendis would have let that stop him
>>84559264
It's her fault for invading his privacy
>>84561225
>I have never heard of Polaris
>>84559921
Emma has always been Best Telepath
I just wish most X-Men fans and writers didn't have this boner for Jean.
>>84559264
Meh. Compared to some other stuff Ice man being homosexual is relatively minor. The only problem is if they they start to make him an over the top gay but I haven't kept up with X-men in a long time.
I want Iceman to create an Ice Giant and sit on the Everest with his ass wide open
>>84562020
Polaris doesn't count. She's more known for her Havok relationship. Kitty is the same, that was recent, and she's more well known for the Colossus thing.
Every women Bobby was connected to (outside of obscure characters) was more well known for another relationship. Thus, he was expendable.
>>84551339
Or storm
>>84558334
No lie, she actually outed him because she got annoyed he kept saying lewd things about Magik.
A woman who, if you recall, dresses like THIS.
>>84554548
SAVAGE
>>84549579
>Brainiac and not Ruin
Filthy casual.
>>84551209
GAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY
>>84555809
Laura makes sense, and
>Wolverine
>dead
l'mayyo
>>84559921
Emma has always been better. This short story proves it.
>>84559251
>He's the only one that doesn't fuck up at every opportunity
Right, just most.
Also he's dead ahahahahaha
>Scottfags on suicide watch
And finally, daily reminder that Namor kek'd him.
>>84549579
>Batman's just bat-gay
ftfy
>>84562292
C A B L E
A
B
L
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So good he couldn't even use it for 20+ years and he STILL knew what everyone was thinking.
>>84559546
Pal, if they're able to bond with a woman and have erections with them, and then later finding out/coming to terms with their attraction to men, then they're not gay. They're bisexual. Which is what Iceman should've been if bendis gave a shit.
Being gay is a very black or white thing in the real world, and if you're gay, no amount of wishful thinking will get your dick up when seeing a naked woman.
>>84567670
What if they weren't thinking about them. I don't know, just saying it happens
>>84559546
>>84567670
>>84568286
There might also be a relation to the fact that those men in most scenarios are probably going through a mid-life crisis and had bi-sexual thoughts corrupted their mind along with the fact that their marriages were probably going down the drain so they figured that those bi-sexual thoughts must mean that they were really only gay the entire time.
If you bring up that logic take other factors into account even.
>>84559546
And there's far, FAR more ex-homosexuals who later led strictly heterosexual lives.
Funny how suggesting homosexuality is a "phase" or something you choose is offensive, but insisting on het people that they surely are repressed gays is not. Funny how trying to turn straights is considered sporting in the gay community but trying to turn a gay person to het is considered offensive.
>>84569381
>And there's far, FAR more ex-homosexuals who later led strictly heterosexual lives
Nice head cannon
>>84569420
And when someone says they're ex gay they usually get hate from the gay community.
Also, it's head canon. A cannon is a piece of artillery, silly anon.
>>84569581
Nah. No one cares when women do it. They just chalk it up to experimentation in their sexual growing times. But really they are just bi
>>84569581
But what if it'sanon cannon canon?
>>84549579
>Yfw you'll never be the secret brainraped sex slave of batman.
>>84570528
*Forgot image
>>84553895
Get back in your sissification chamber
>>84553878
Because despite all the puss Bobby was crushing every goddamn day of the week, he NEVER ONCE expressed any interest in Jean or her poison womb. And Jean, being the self-centered cunt she is, thought it impossible for a hetersexual male to NOT be attracted to her. Ergo, if Bobby didn't want Jean, Bobby must be gay.
To be fair, it probably wasn't intentional on her part. She just forced her subconscious desires on an unwilling participant. Although I'm not sure whether that's more horrifying or less horrifying.
>>84557211
He is already gay, but he has standards
>>84554162
Pretty much the only way to resolve it without retconning the Silver Age.
>>84556762
>The Joker flirting with Batman yet, I don't know what more to tell you. He's not subtle.
/co/ is so fucking bad at social interacting they can't even tell when someone's hazing or just trying to get under another person's skin anymore.
>>84571267
This is my head cannon as well. Jean needs everyone to be in love with her for her to feel good about herself.
>>84559546
Male sexuality is biological and is from birth. If you can be aroused by women, you aren't gay. You're bisexual at most. If you can be aroused by men, you aren't straight. You're bisexual at most.
>>84571592
Do you mean at least?
>>84571759
Being turned on by more people is more.
>>84571759
It can go either way.Much like a bisexual.
>>84555809
It's funny who outdated this became in less then a year.
>>84554162
Nah. They've been there long enough that they're blatantly just Bendis induced time paradoxes.
>>84551209
>lives in the south/Midwest
I'm sorry, but that's no reason to yell at everyone.
Here in CA no one cares much. The closet is still a thing. Humans generally don't like making a stressful situation for themselves or those around them. Admitting you're one of 5-9% of the country that's homo (depends on who you ask), that'll do it. At some point it doesn't matter if anyone cares, the idea you're making a statement that can cause tension is unpleasant for most people, go figure.
>>84552386
I've never been heavy into X-men so this has problably come up but has anyone ever called Xavier out on his first class being nothing but fit white abercromie and fitch models? Or hell, how the x-men in general seem to relegate the unattractive mutants to being on the Z-list teams and cannon fodder?
>>84572393
Probably at some point it has been done in comics. But it certainly has been done many times outside. There is a good reason people prefer cartoon/live action Xavier to comic version. He is fucking ruined in the comics forever.
>>84567122
Clearly jeen's waifu isn't for lewd
>>84572393
Some of the more deformed mutants just end up dying from their mutation. The X-Men are the "lucky" ones who end up superhumans rather then have their body kill itself.
>>84572393
Historically the ugly mutants were uncommon. The Morlocks were a relatively small group and people like pic related were more common as "non-super" characters
>fit
Xavier wouldn't tolerate fatties so even if Cyclops had some flab he would have burned it off
>>84548010
Did you mean to post this in the thread that already exists?
>>84551209
Nice copy pasta, 'advocate'.
>>84558790
I usually do, but Here I feel like Logan is asking for Scott to change everything he has been working on for years and years, just on a whim. Not cool .
>>84572659
Didn't they try to recruit the Blob the moment they found him?
Wait so Herc isn't Bi anymore?
Is he gay?
>>84573369
I think he's fucking gilgemesh
>>84573369
Straight
>>84548010
The X-Kids are from an alternate universe and nobody will convince me otherwise.
>>84573369
He's still bi. Some comment from a random editor who doesn't know what he's talking about can't change shit
>>84573656
Even if they were, it was shown adult Iceman is gay too
Boy, it sure is interesting how many people are crushing hard on Iceman and yet don't want him to be anyone else's butt buddy.
>>84574429
Whut
>>84574429
When's the Human Torch coming out? Him and Bobby are like the same character
>>84574429
Are you fine if a gay character was revealed to be bi or straight?
>>84574649
That would make it easier for us to read, all they need to do is have him date a girl and then admit that he was wrong about not being bisexual, then they can have the relationship do well enough that he never has to be seen dating any men, after a few years of dating women like that we can forget about all this "gay" stuff and they can just retcon it completely away.
And once he's officially never been gay and always ever been straight they can give him a nice white blonde to marry to prove it once and for all.
If there needs to be diversity in an X-Men comic they can always make some Morlock who doesn't matter gay and then write one story about how we aren't homophobic like the people who want to read stories with gay people in them.
And while we're at it they should have a story where that gay lizard kid gets killed, that way every X-Man can say how much they cared about a gay in a eulogy. That should make the point.
And once that's all done we never have to worry about this diversity stuff ever again.
Sound right to you?
>>84575146
Better than what's happening now.
>>84575224
>Better than...
The ask that the audience be tolerant of a sexual minority existing in a book where tolerance is a big theme?
Or the single biggest storyline that Iceman has ever been the focus of either just starting or just ending?
>>84575554
Whatever works for you, better than the current shit show.
>>84575146
You're missing the point. Why is it wrong the other way around for this? Is that not a double standard? Do you just want to be topical?
>>84575146
These are all legitimately good ideas.
>>84575592
But that IS the current Iceman story.
That's what you have a problem with.
Why can't you even admit that part of this?
You can't be that offended if you have to lie.
>>84575146
I don't care about Iceman, give him a bear who's also a bear for a boyfriend and it wouldn't effect me at all. I just want to know if it would it be a problem if someone wrote a story about someone questioning their sexuality and the conclusion they reached was that they are bi or straight? Cause you're sounding like a hypocrite who's angry at the thought of "taking away" some minor characteristic you happen to share with a fictional character. You are exactly the same as the people who get you upset.
>>84575593
Is that why you're advocating for the public shaming and censorship of a comicbook story?
Because it wasn't a different story?
And you think it's a double standard for one type of story to exist when the other hasn't yet?
Mind explaining why this one CAN'T exist first?
And why it's not a double standard to insist that this one must come second, if ever at all?
... when it's not the standard for this other imaginary story that you want published?
>>84548228
>mfw people really believe this
>>84575913
Fuckwit, who the hell is dumb enough to write a story about some guy who's heterosexual realizing that they're NOT attracted to men?
And what the fuck are they going to put in the second comic panel?
>>84575965
>>84575913
I never said it should be censored, in fact run with it. I just want you to know you're stupid.
>>84576020
>bisexual
>Not attracted to men
>Bi-curious people don't exist
>Nope, totally 100 percent homosexual. That's how it works!
It's a story about a gay guy coming out of the closet, if you post demands about how he should have been bi instead of gay, or are demanding that the storyline be changed in order to retcon away the continuation of this story, you are advocating censorship.
You are proclaiming that there shouldn't be a story about this guy coming out as gay (not as bi, not as confused but ultimately straight) and are demanding that the story be changed because you don't want Marvel to be allowed to publish this story.
That is the textbook definition of censorship.
And you have been advocating for censorship.
Would you like me to also explain why you're not being honest about "just not liking the story"?
>>84576067
You do know that strawman arguments that ridiculous just make it obvious how wrong you have been, right?
I mean, think about it, you didn't have anything to say in your defense but this.
That's your entire argument now, do you think you've made things better or worse for you with that post?
>>84576251
I never said he should of been bi either nor did I suggest censorship so can you please fuck off like everyone else in these thread who's triggered at these reveals? You're doing the same thing they're doing and it gets everyone nowhere
>>84576251
>you are advocating censorship
no we're not
bi erasure is more of a problem than gay erasure
there are more bi people than there are gay and bi fits more into the gender fluid sexuality spectrum than gay does, but constantly bi people are only used in media as sexy young women who want to fuck you with their best friend, sexualized completely
it's not a story, it's part of a series of stories
making a character bi instead of completely gay makes more sense anyway
sure there are people who hide their homosexuality, but this plot was not written this way or at the very least in a believable way
This is bi representation and fluid story writing, not gay censorship
There are plenty of gay characters and characters who have not been shown to be in various relationships with people, not focusing on them or not introducing them can also be a way to represent gay people
one can only suspend their disbelief so far and so many times before they stop caring about the story
>>84576321
How's it wrong? I'm not even talking about Iceman, I'm just saying you have double standards in thinking a story like this can only end in one way and that's even ignoring your denial of people who aren't merely straight or gay. Sexuality is a complicated thing
>>84576358
*is not the way to represent gay people
>>84576380
Well if you're admitting that you're not even on thread topic then WTF is your post if not a shitpost?
>>84575810
No it ain't.
>>84576332
(maybe not that anon)
I never posted anything of the kind! Just look at my post! You are clearly insane to take offense at what I posted there!
>>84576460
REALLY? Then do tell, what continuous storyline is Iceman all about now???
>>84576428
It's to make a point that you're tripping overself trying to justify why there can only be one ending for this story, the one you approve, and how that's what all the others here are doing as well.
>>84576486
Show the demand for censorship, I think you're confusing anons
>>84576522
Jean says Bobby is gay so he's gay.
Then he goes back to being unimportant but is also gay.
>>84576358
Every bi character should be changed to pure 100% gay, obviously because it must be all or nothing for all LGBTQ characters all at once, there can be no variety allowed at all!
I mean, it's not like this is about tolerance, acceptance, self-acceptance, or even individuality...
That the point you wanted to make?
>>84573716
when jean was in the room
>>84576544
You are demanding that there can be no 100% gay characters, in a push for bisexual being a single standard for not-heterosexual.
Given that, if you can't understand why it's ridiculous hypocrisy to say that just the existence of one single 100% gay guy is somehow a demand for the end of bisexuality worldwide then you're an idiot.
>>84576740
What? Where did I say that all gay characters need to be bi? I said that there more possible outcomes to these things then your narrow mind is getting. Stop obsessing over labels, you tool.
>>84576679
And Bobby became straight when Professor X was in the room, and he became a furry when Emma Frost sneezed, And liked fucking puppies when Quentin Quire farted, and he became obsessed with clown porn when Shadow King got herpes...
Are we done with posting headcanon yet?
Because yours isn't so much fun because it reflects your hatred, ignorance, and intolerance.
>>84576740
That anon said nothing of the sort. Some characters should just be gay like northstar and karoline dean because they started that way. Others should be bi cause they were writen that way for a long time, like nico,herc, storm,magic...ah hell alnost any of claremonts X-Men
>>84554288
they dont, its just straight people who lie to themselves
>>84576871
>And liked fucking puppies when Quentin Quire farted
But I'm pretty sure that happened. Would fit anyway
>>84576794
>>84576891
The opinion was stated clearly in the very hostile and sarcastic >>84576067
And the shitposter even admitted to it being his post.
(this is where you admit that you were wrong because you have an ounce of dignity)
Haven't you heard, Anon?
Dating Asian girls turns you gay.
>>84576917
Stop shitposting /pol/, you've wandered into the wrong board again.
>>84576961
That second post isn't the same guy and I don't see how I am wrong for saying hypothecially there are multiple ways a story like this can go and people demanding he be straight, bi, or gay are tools that are too caught up in labeling.
>>84576965
That sounds really racist and homophobic ... but what I've seen in manga and anime backs up this conclusion.
>>84577032
That (as stated repeatedly before) is not the offense, the offense is proclaiming that a story about a character coming out as gay (what this thread is about) should be undone because THAT story shouldn't exist.
That has been argued for continuously on this thread and multiple threads just like this.
Catch the clue before your posts become too much like shitposting to not report.
>>84576871
>hatred, ignorance, and intolerance.
3/10
come on. you can do better than just throwing out randoms.
>>84577125
And what the hell are they going to do? They're not Bendis or Marvel staff. If bitching mattered then OMD would've been undone by now and the Inhumans would be dead. You're all ignorant.
>>84577203
What they're going to do is shitpost the board and ruin every X-thread with their homophobe butthurt until they wake up to the severe autism of their existence, but I don't see that happening unprompted anytime soon.
>>84577131
>pretending to matter
2/10
Come on Shit Poster, a poo flinging monkey knows better than to say that about you!
Unless I just described you.
>>84548010
>elsa, anna and rapunzel having an orgy.jpg
>>84577406
im a shit poster now? based on not taking your bait? or pointing out that jean is a manipulative whore with psychic powers?
>>84578196
Yeah, a clean-shaven, jovial guy who obviously works out and enjoys showing off, that's just the kind of guy groups of ladies enjoy hanging out with.
Oh yeah... Boom-shaka-laka!
>>84578305
Oh look! They've hooked a live one! Reel 'em in! Looks like a real fighter!
>>84578384
i know... but i need to see how many more ad hominems theyre gonna throw at me
>>84578418
Who do you think you're talking to right now?
Hello. <3
>>84576600
>I mean, it's not like this is about tolerance, acceptance, self-acceptance, or even individuality...
>individuality
you mean about the comic where someone outed two people at the same time by reading their personal private thoughts and convincing them that they were gay
Bobby even starts to question his sexuality and say "maybe I'm bi" but Jean shuts him down
It really would have made more sense if you had quoted me instead of going off on this weird tangent
either way, you've come to the wrong opinion
>>84576871
You know this is the same franchise where Emma reverted Wolverine into being an 8 year old child that hid in trees and made "terribly pretty" paper dolls, right?
Hell in this EXACT SAME BOOK, same writer and everything, Jean flat out brainwashed people that were trying to leave the team into staying and people just let it happen. She can't go three pages without abusing her powers.
And in Ultimate Marvel? Wolverine and Spider-man get their minds switched by a telepath for purely for shits and giggles. That was Bendis again. And the culprit was Jean! Again!
You can't act like there's no precedent for this shit.
>>84576011
It's a stupid theory but it's not like you can prove it wrong. I mean you'd have to get an Iceman from even farther in the past and have another telepath read his mind. I will be impressed if they did something like that or have fetus Bobby show up to prove he was always gay.
>>84578596
Emma always admits to her reasons. Usually jjst utilitarian but sometimes selfish. Bt jean thinks shes gods gift to the world
>>84578596
Wasn't "THE EXACT SAME BOOK", wasn't the same run, wasn't the same writer, wasn't even the same title.
You're getting to be a joke here. Try harder. I'm sure that'll help.
>>84578712
Jean brainwashing Angel into staying under the guise of "calming everyone down" wasn't Bendis X-men? My mistake. They all kind of blend together.
Great. I'll accept that I'm wrong on that. Especially since it being a different run/writer/title actually proves my point even better in that Jean sucks and mutant telepaths do heinous shit under multiple writers across multiple books and realities. Really just all the fucking time.
>>84573369
He's in a straight phase
when you live as long as him, your sexuality comes and goes.
>>84578712
the thing about anonymous, is that you think youre talking to someone, but you arent
>>84578531
Are you fucking kidding me here?
He was living in the closet, he didn't want to be what he was.
That's literally what being in the closet is.
That obvious and aknowledged storypoint completely explains that dialog.
And did you think the telepath who reads minds without permission (remember, you vilify her for that) wouldn't know how he feels about it?
And you have to headcanon some shit about how there's no free will within ten feet of any psychic redhead just because Iceman being gay makes you uncomfortable.
That's pathetic.
>>84578801
where? give me the facts that he was closeted and wasnt just turned gay because bendis wanted to make something of his completely fucked run?
>>84578801
I think you're getting like four different anons mixed up into being one.
As far as the whole Jean did it theory goes though? Bobby suddenly being gay, especially given that his future self was still straight might've been easier for people to swallow had literally anyone other than Jean been the impetus for it.
>>84578801
did you miss the part where bobby had gotten mind read plenty of times and no one ever thought he was gay?
Or the fact that his future self didn't even become late in life gay?
Or the fact that without the original 5 coming to the present, there would have been literally no way of writing iceman as gay?
>>84578747
>>84578778
Those are two different scenes, twits. They have sources that are known.
And what kind of fucking /pol/ casual-wannabe shitposter is so fucking stupid, just STUPID, that they actually think their mythical boogeyman Bendis wrote all X-Men stories ever?
Just this level of stupidity is awe inspiring.
>>84578868
>mythical boogeyman Bendis wrote all X-Men stories ever?
....noone ever said that? youre so caught being triggered that you arent even reading any more
>>84578778
By the way, if there's multiple people shitposting the same wrong facts and opinions over and over again...
Why did ALL of them take a break for an hour?
At the same time?
How odd is that?
It's not as if there's some shitbrain that thinks his samefagging isn't obvious... ?
What a mystery!
>>84578930
ok, sure.
>>84578889
What quotation are you talking about?
Nobody ever said anything like that on this thread.
Are you having a mental breakdown or something, you schitzo?
>>84578946
Oh, that's your answer for how random trolls were all acting in unison? You can't say anything else about that WEIRD COINCIDENCE???
Don't worry, I'm sure one of those other posters will have a reasonable explaination...
>>84578946
Hey bitch its obvious that your some closet fag from /pol/ that got a problem with being a closet fag Why you making it a /co/ problem?
>>84579027
I think you're paranoid and should chill out. You're not going to stop any shitposters like this.
>>84579049
Hey man, go easy on the guy. He's clearly working through some difficult issues and identifies with Iceman too much.
Dealing with being gay is hard for kids like him.
>>84579027
>>84579049
noone has been trolling in this thread but you anon. people(yes, multiple) have stated their issues with bobby being gay in the presence of a psychic despite being psychically read before, and the only thing youve done is call us /pol/ members and trolls. its a wonder than any of us have been entertaining you in this because you just want to yell at people rather than have a dialog. and bitch? really?
>>84579063
Still doesn't explain how ALL those like-minded posters just wussed out at the same time...
Or why there aren't a few of them coming to the closet-case's rescue right now...
Does it, Random Anon?
>>84579106
Still waiting for that explaination...
And while you're at it, why is it that wrong for one person to bitch, but not for ALL these multitude of other posters here who seem to be quiet about their bitch complaints right now?
You know, ALL those posters who have a problem with Iceman being so threateningly gay?
>>84579169
because theyve probably jumped into other threads to argue with other thick idiots.
>>84579121
Well speaking as one of those like-minded posters? It's 5 in the fucking morning. I'm trying and failing to sleep. I'd be happy to pick this discussion back up in 8 hours, although I don't see the point as I've said my piece.
>>84579121
You know that fag ain't goin to answer you. Probbly crying right now.
>>84579187
BUT Anon, I have so many points to talk through well into the wee hours of the morning!
Surely one of the many many other anon's can stick around and convince me I'm wrong!
I'm sooooo close to believing their arguments!
>>84578868
Except it was fucking Bendis who had Jean mind controlling Warren into staying in the present. All-New X-Men, issue number 8. Brian Michael Bendis.
>>84579186
All of them? All going away all at once again? Isn't that kinda odd?
>>84579230
Honestly man you're so busy trying to be a shitbird that I can't even really tell which side of the argument you were on anymore. I enjoy being an argumentative ponce on the internet as much as the next guy but you've overplayed your hand and thus crossed my threshold for giving a shit.
I'm going to /d/ where people make sense.
>>84579244
Read >>84578596
That's the "other thing that Bendis wrote"
>>84579261
he thinks everyone thats arguing with him is one person. paranoia is a bitch
>>84579273
What's your point here? Bendis has shown that he'll happily have telepaths casually change people's minds with his powers.
With one instance of Jean mind controlling her friend into doing what she wanted, I see no reason to then assume she wouldn't do it again.
>>84579121
>>84579193
No, I'm here. It's likely nothing organized.
>>84579261
Bye. That's TWO who are confirmed to have left, of the innumerable posters who shared this opinion about how shitty all BendisJeanGayBobby X-Men comics are...
But why, WHY, WHYWHYWHY were they all RANDOMLY arriving and leaving at the same times before?
Ooooh! It's a pickle!
>>84579317
you need to go to sleep and try this again with a fresh mind in the morning
>>84579317
You're freaking me out. What are you talking about?
>>84578801
>That's literally what being in the closet is.
You're allowed to be gay and not want to tell people you're gay
You obviously don't know much about being gay
>And did you think the telepath who reads minds without permission (remember, you vilify her for that) wouldn't know how he feels about it?
I'm vilifying her because she shoved him out of the closet and forced him to confront himself to shove him out of the closet too
It's poor writings and it doesn't make the gay characters seem like they can do anything without the help of a powerful woman, like IRL gays flock to fag hags because they are helpless on their own
it sets up a poor stereotype
>>84579286
One, she learned her lesson about that not making her any friends.
Two, Iceman living his life one way or another isn't something she wants really badly one way or another.
Three, the example of her doing that was not covert and subtle, everyone knew she did it and were worried about it.
Four, Bendis writing one scene where it's obvious what was happening does not establish a pattern of "OMG! anyone could have been secret brainwashed in a not obvious way!"
Five, the assumption that not only is Jean a horrible bitch of a person, but also that every other X-Man, telepath and not, who have been watching her since she got these powers is also in a conspiracy to fuck over Iceman's life, or brainwashed themselves, is bullshit on it's face.
You may as well start shitposting about Superman flying around the world and raping children, it's the same made up out of character theory postedjust to piss off loyal fans.
>>84579415
>loyal fans
>of jean fucking grey
Who could possibly like that bitch?
>>84579361
Well Jesus, that's the first time that argument's been made on this thread.
I think you're in the wrong place.
>>84575554
If you think Iceman was the focus of the coming out story you've really misread that.
It was Jean Grey's story from start to finish.
>>84578747
No it was the same All New X-men book this guys just has his head up his ass.
>>84578801
Every panel about Iceman being gay has Jean Grey in it.
It's the only logical conclusion.
>>84579446
And for Tykelops it was a story about learning to take Magik's recommendations about take-out food...
Each character has their own storyline.
And Iceman gets a storyline about being outed interwoven into Jean's storyline about brainsnooping too much.
>>84579469
There's the Bobby's gay scenes in the new AllNew' where Jean's not even on the team, she gets replaced by Kid Apocalypse, Oya, and a Bamf.
But those don't support your argument so I guess they didn't exist?
