Good evening owls of /co/,
bonus time
>>84501147
so what's good in solicits
surely there's nothing else in comics to talk about today
#teamrucka
>“STATE OF FEAR” part one! Following a harrowing battle with a monster from beyond the stars, Green Lantern Jessica Cruz decides to unwind by taking on another unbelievable challenge: overcoming her anxiety and asking The Flash out on a date!
>“TRICK OR TREAT!” Rookie Green Lanterns Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz face their most daunting mission yet: a night of Halloween trick or treating with Simon’s young nephew and a on-the-run Guardian of the Universe.
protect the smiles of these dumb rookies
>>84501169
well /co/ officially hates rucka now
And the solicits were interesting
Monster Men cover looks pretty fun, Young Animal looks great, the new minis look good mostly, no Prez or Supersons still
>>84501147
Hello Storyteller.
>bonus story
>takes place earlier in continuity
... Okay then. A might odd, but whatever.
>>84501169
ESCAPE FROM DINOSAUR ISLAND
KING DOING BATMAN AND SUICIDE SQUAD
GREEN LANTERNS TRICK OR TREAT
KID FLASH OF TWO WORLDS
I'm not head over heels with rebirth but those books
>>84501169
Some fine T&A
The only Rucka/Cho take you'll need:
https://twitter.com/KurtBusiek/status/753667404136198144
https://twitter.com/KurtBusiek/status/753686753987264512
Honestly both sides are probably happy now so I find it hard to make a big deal over it. People will disagree sometimes professionally, whatever.
>>84501195
How is this book so cute?
>>84501201
I have some generic sympathy with "why am I getting micromanaged by someone who's not my boss", but Busiek had a pretty even take on it.
>>84501244
so much Hal
>>84501169
>>84501201
This Cho/Rucka thing is irritating every single place it is happening.
>>84501267
the thing I am 10000% over is either pro- or anti- whoever thinkpieces, be it "ZOMG SJWs" or "VICTORY FOR WOMEN"
>>84501210
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>>84501262
>>84501249
I thought Brandon Graham also had a fairly even take, albeit he lays blame with DC as a company and has a personal dislike for Cho's art.
>>84501201
Even with the leak I don't think we have the full solicits yet. Only saw a few trades and no statues or anything.
I expect Prez Oct/Nov and think Super Sons is stealth cancelled though.
Have you bought your Kenan today?
Also >>84492391
>>84501210
Don't forget Dick having another presumably older man like him
>“RISE OF RAPTOR” part one! The Parliament of Owls wasn’t brought to justice like Raptor promised Nightwing-it was eliminated! Raptor’s methods have crossed the line and Nightwing goes to apprehend him. Upon his arrival he discovers Raptor’s true intentions and obsessions…
the outrage schadenfreude is too sweet to resist
>>84501292
my crackpot theory is Super Sons is getting relaunched at And the Legion
>>84501210
>KID FLASH OF TWO WORLDS
I'm angry it's taking so long to get here. Fucking 8 part first arc.
>>84501249
>Faith Erin Hicks, Ed Brubaker and Kurt Busiek all commiserate about the perils of work for hire on characters you love
That is a SAD tweet thread, anon.
>>84501328
I hope double shipping didn't convince him and other writers to do 7+ issue long arcs
>>84501322
I think I was talking to you in the solicit thread where I was bootyblasted about Chris and didn't want Damian anywhere near the Legion.
>>84501290
IDK, I was kind of excited by "Rucka WW" but the three issues out have completely underwhelmed me, so I'll probably ignore it for a few months.
>>84501359
>>84501359
I hate how decompressed it is too
Oneshot and #1 could've been one issue imo
>>84501359
I thought the one this week was better than the others, but 1) it's the origin again 2) taking the origin to the point of meeting Steve in one issue was faster-paced than the rest so far. That is slow going.
>>84501359
Ditto, I was so thrilled for it, and it's not bad, but...
>>84501210
>not mentioning Psycho Pirate in Batman
>>84501379
It's made me think back over what Rucka we've read with a more critical eye, and he does take his time to get moving, don't he
I have a lot less tolerance for that now unless you're setting a lot of shit up in each issue and payoff is promised and then delivered.
bang
>>84501350
Probably, and that's a fine position. poor chris
>>84501402
Too hype for King writing Waller and the Squad.
>>84501396
I think it's very "this is Wonder Woman from the ground up and this is how she is and should be written" and that's just never gonna happen for any one creator in cape comics, even the guy who actually invents the character.
http://comicbookroundup.com/comic-books/reviews/marvel-comics/civil-war-ii/3
> CWII getting shitty reviews
> It has less reviews than rebirth #2s
bueno
>>84501195
Johns arbitrarily aging up the Babby Guardians Kyle created was a mistake.
That trick or treating story sounds adorable. Jessica's gonna get her heart broken. The Flash is back, and he's a hardcore Barry/Iris shipper. The Flash eill not let the Flash date a Green Lantern.
>>84501359
Same desu. I've never cared much for Wondy and what I've seen of this run isn't making me change my mind.
>>84501420
>>84501428
King having Batman only confronting Strange in issues #7 and #8 is actually slower-paced than I thought that storyline was going to be, too.
>>84501359
I loved the Scott issue but the Sharp ones didn't do much for me. Glad I'm trade waiting since I can just get her arc and bounce.
>>84501420
>Bang! Zoom!
>>84501449
It does depend on how much is packed into each issue--if it's that put off, I expect maybe some serious subplots/B-plots are getting going
>>84501300
that's some fun taste you've got there
>>84501449
Well Monster Men taking up time.
>>84501440
I never expected it but i'm super invested in Jessica/Barry happening and I know I'll be crushed
>>84501440
The only GL Barry should date is Hal
>>84501449
Well he said it's a 22 issue storyline so yeah
And Omega Men was a slow burner too. It took like 4 issues for it to get really going
>>84501300
>New Superman
Why is she so perfect?
>>84501486
Monster Men seems like it plays into the plot - which is good, don't get me wrong. RIP Gotham.
>>84501300
I didn't make it out of the house today to go to my shop
The Flintstones solicit made my day, AGAIN.
>>84501516
It was, but that opening 8 pages were a dynamite hook
>>84501498
But Hal should remain pure for Sinestro
>>84501516i was anti king when he just came on the scene because i didn't like the early omega men issues, i only came around when Vision happened. I was wrong.
>>84501537
I cannot believe Flintstones is a real thing. It's just amazing.
>>84501485
Ty ty
>>84501524Because she's Chinese bootleg Maria Hill
>>84501516
I think Omega Men was very good with the space it took. I mean extreme hook in the preview, and the first issue ends with quite a lot having happened - just not a lot done by Kyle.
>>84501537
>>84501560
I'm putting Flintstones on my pull even though it's $3.99, because it's really surprisingly something
oh my god that flying method for Batsy
>>84501438
>In the end, what's the point of spending money to read a comic that has little more to say than what's already been spoiled by the publisher?
this is an excellent point
The Hulk dying spoilers aside, with all the preview catalogues and certain solicits, we vaguely know what's going to happen to some characters by the end of the event.
So the only reason to read it would be to see HOW it all happens, but if the how is written like shit, then there is no point?
>>84501537
Haha, Bruce, what a ass
>>84501596
I can't believe it got mixed reviews.
>>84501612
I can't believe some people seemed to want the cartoon.
Hey, when did Guy stop being squeaky clean goody two shoes?
>>84501605
>if the how is written like shit
I don't even know what they're going to get four more issues out of
>>84501628
I get the feeling Russell would be extremely good on like, a Swamp Thing or an Animal Man.
>>84501569
>Because she's Chinese bootleg Maria Hill
Honestly, that was the very first thought I had when she appeared. "What's Maria Hill doing in this book?". And then she basically turns out to be similar in character too. I eagerly await more SCIENCE!!! from Kenan's possibly evil boss.
>She's not my type.
Kenan. Get you some taste, dude.
>>84501605
>yfw Bendis flashbacks the actual conflict in the final issue after six issues of decompression
>>84501654
i realized last night the genius of the event, it's just bendis doing shock pages for 8 issues. the war hasn't even started!
>>84501654
>>84501702
....fuck
>>84501649
This takes place before ONE PUNCH.
>>84501649
this is a flashback story, unless you mean when in the future then I'm not sure
>>84501654
It's probably just going to be a couple more issues of arguing, some flashbacks to shit that justifies the use of Ulysses, and then everybody has their side by #5 or #6, and then they just go to town on each other like action figures being smashed together
>>84501689
Kenan is worst boy, that's why he's best boy
>>84501713
>>84501761
man it's literally gonna be "Ulysses sees them all fighting. They all start fighting"
>>84501761
Has Bendis ever scripted an issue where the fighting/action parts were interesting because of the writing and you could tell?
>>84501778
>Ulysses' final vision is of darkness
>double page full black spread
Why has decompression gotten so out of control? Do writers/editors not realize that readers got lives?
>nerds
>lives
Oh. Wait....
>>84501790
I put in that qualifier because, compare some of the Millar "hey, go nuts here" things with, say, Yale/Ostrander Manhunter wherein the dialogue clearly matched the flow of the action in details, etc.
>>84501805
Because length is easy, concision is difficult (as I discover writing to word count) and you have to go over things repeatedly to cut fat and yet make sure it flows.
>>84501805
I've seen arguments that nerdism is the fear of life.
>>84501761
>some flashbacks to shit that justifies the use of Ulysses
this is the most hilarious thing to me
like if they didn't tell us that CW2 was shat out in 3-4 months, THIS would be the thing that told me how rushed this event was
there is no build up at ALL except for a few books unnecessarily having 1-2 part "Road to Civil War 2" issues
if it were thought out like the rest of their events and some dc events, they'd have the incidents be more organic and naturally occurring rather than little flashbacks
#3 was so fucking bad
>>84501548
I'm kinda hoping Hal and Carol get back together finally
sh-she said his name, it might happen;_;
>>84501805
Why tell more stories when you can tell fewer?
>>84501805
Who needs lives when we've got our fellow owls?
>>84501827
uhoh
>>84501869
All owls and no life makes Lucas a Midnighter.
>When I was at Wizard, Frank Cho routinely sent unsolicited pornography to the writer who was his contact at the mag
>>84501869
hoot hoot
>>84501922
now that is harassment.
>>84501866
It's not about less or more, it's about telling stories where stuff actually happens. Substance, not length.
>>84501862
>I'm kinda hoping Hal and Carol get back together finally
Okay no, to hell with any romance shit. First let's get Carol back on track, then we can think about hooking her up with Hal. Does anyone but us even remember that she builds airplanes for a living?
>>84501858
Bendis said on tumblr CW2 3 was written a year ago
>>84501922
I wonder if he drew it himself, or if it was just the porn he had lying around. Honestly, if he did this to Rucka the whole situation is explained.
>>84501931
>>84501938
if they could do both at once, that'd be nice. "Carol is shown being a competent adult which helps lead to her and Hal having a mutually satisfying relationship"
why the fuck did I never get my Hal/Carol Space Adventures book
>>84501938
It's like watering down juice, you could have one rich glass or you add water to have 2-3 ok glasses.
>>84502000
Didn't Brevoort back in Januaryish say CW2 was thought up 3-4 months prior?
>>84501169
>Far away on the planet Meta, Loma’s going nowhere fast. She’s dropped out of school, dumped her boyfriend, and is bored out of her mind. She longs to feel things. That’s where her idol, the lunatic poet Rac Shade, and his infamous madness coat come it. Loma steals the garment and makes a break across galaxies to take up residence in a new body: Earth girl Megan Boyer. Surely everything will be better on this passionate primitive planet with a dash of madness on her side and this human girl’s easy life. Only now that she’s here, Loma discovers being a teenaged Earth girl comes with its own challenges and Earth may not be everything she thought it’d be. Megan Boyer was a bully whom everyone was glad was almost dead, and now Loma has to survive High School and navigate the consequences of the life she didn’t live with the ever-growing and uncontrollable madness at her side. Not to mention that there are people back on her homeworld who might just want Shade’s coat back.
>Megan Boyer was a bully whom everyone was glad was almost dead
Why do all the Young Animal solicits look so good and why don't I have infinite money?
>>84501938
>First let's get Carol back on track, then we can think about hooking her up with Hal. Does anyone but us even remember that she builds airplanes for a living?
That's fair, they haven't known what to do with her in ages
I'm hoping Venditti can get his shit together and do her some justice this time instead of just having her show up occasionally to be an asshole to Halbut I'm not holding my breath
>>84502018
>>84502018
>why the fuck did I never get my Hal/Carol Space Adventures book
we don't deserve nice things, apparently
that's what they SHOULD have done after Johns left, but nooo
>>84502104
;____;
>>84502155
https://twitter.com/robertliefeld/status/753638780578312193
there's one POV
>>84502104
imagine if GL was sold as the power couple book at that time instead of SMWW
>>84502201
love that bottom half
>>84502260
Unlike SM/WW, I actually would've read that.
>>84502260
HNNNNNNNNNG, and coming off the popularity of Johns GL, it could have worked.
>>84502076
>they haven't known what to do with her in ages
Not to sound arrogant, but I know exactly what to do with her. Have her make spaceships. She's getting kinda used to this whole space adventures thing, right? And she has access to highly advanced technology which she could use to take advantage of Earth's severe lacking in space travel tech.
You've got Carol's own hangups with space shit vs her inner ruthless businesswoman. Various Ferris Air employees make a for an easily crafted supporting cast. The board of directors can serve as devils on the shoulder. Bring in some military types who want to strike a deal to weaponize the new tech. This shit damn near writes itself, so just do that.
Also, there's more than one kind of Love, DC. Maybe try exploring that a little.
>>84502304
>there's more than one kind of Love, DC. Maybe try exploring that a little.
YES THAT
now I want, IDK, a Carol book with the level of thoughtfulness of Nate's old run
>>84502155
lewd
>>84502338
>>84502201
I don't know if the crop makes a difference, it's still ugly to me. I don't feel like these covers have been his best work and the emotional stuff behind the scenes would explain it.
Some mad anon made Holy Terror into an actual Batman story. It's something to behold
>>84502392
He seemed super excited to land the gig so it felt kinda weird he wasn't bringing his A-game
>>84502260
God that would have been cute
>>84501769
It's funny because it's true
>>84502392
Cho's art is never the "best work" for me but the covers seem fine for what they are either way. It seems clear Rucka (and whoever else) forced Cho out and equally clear that a lot of the dislike around Cho is for him personally, not for his art. And the tattling is just bad behaviour, he's looking for sales.
>>84502304
That does sound pretty awesome!
I also really fucking hate that they felt the need to immediately hook her up with somebody else the second they broke up her and Hal. She's allowed to be single! I would have vastly preferred that over "I must feel love for a dude to keep my powers"!
>>84502415
Aren't there a couple pics floating around from when it was a Batman story?
Or am I just imagining things
>>84502375
>>84502392
I still want to see that one with all the drapery he showed some details from.
Busiek's right, it's good to walk in a situation like this so everyone can be happier. But I'm still kind of amused by how mutable the rhetoric about "do your job it's WFH" vs. "stick it to the shits and walk" is depending on whether one likes a person or not.
>>84502201
https://twitter.com/royalboiler/status/753712329791971328
kek
>>84502481
>>84502260
>>84502282
Much as I loathe to even entertain the notion of this pairing... it could've worked in a sense.
Think about it, Diana's a princess, Clark is a farm boy. Just harlequin that shit and play up the princess and the pauper aspect and you might've had a relationship that wasn't bland drivel.
Or, they could've just not bothered with this tripe, since the only thing that came out of a it was a dreadfully mediocre book that was only entertaining for the brief amount of time Circe made Magog into her evil Shazam boytoy.
>>84502528
Forgot to mention I'm hype for Linda's mention in the Titans solicit, interested in seeing how they play that without her remembering him. Kind of hope she tries to track him down based on the Rebirth scene.
>>84502560
i hope you're ready for dickery, J'onn
>>84502592
that's where I'm wondering where the status quo is gonna go, with Linda and the kids
If you wanna talk sexy art I got lost in Leslie Hung's stuff for a while today. Her drawings are all gorgeous.
>>84502623
now THAT'S an OP character
>>84502661
she's doing Snotgirl, right?
>>84502481
"Don't go bitch to Bleeding Cool" is probably a universal rule tho
I wanna fuck this Two Face desu
https://twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/753638313488162817
And wow ASB has a lot of variants
>>84502623
>putting on the Helm
Oh, J'onn. Nah, dude. Just nah.
>>84502679
I guess he wanted to get it out there why he wasn't solicited for #7, but...yeah.
>>84502592
I'm very interested in where this Lilith love triangle is going
>>84501790
That works imply that he has the ability to produce interesting writing in the first place.
>>84502733
Threesome. Donna's an Amazon, I really doubt she would mind.
>>84502676
Yes. I'm probably going to pick it up. Not the hugest BLM fan but I liked the preview and the creative team seems strong. I know Leslie Hung has some personal experience with fashion blogging too, though I don't think she's ever run one herself.
Her art is great and cute but also really... moody? So the cuteness can just be cute, or it can be sexy or scary or dark or whatever. It's a style I'm sure some people won't enjoy regardless, but I'm into it.
>>84502730
>>84502763
what IS Donna's thing, now?
>>84502730
I think he wanted to sell commissions and merch and shit, OP. "Outrage!" and so on. Why Bleeding Cool? It's that, or it's that Rich was the only outlet going to take his side.
>>84502806
Probably gonna go back to her thing with Roy at least
>>84502789
>It's a style I'm sure some people won't enjoy regardless, but I'm into it.
That's good. I think when people work towards mass appeal they tend to produce weak work
>>84502541
I almost feel like it was done purely to demonize it as a ship and get it out of the way because doing it the way you described might have worked and doesn't seem that hard.
>>84502789
I'll give it a look but fashion blogging is something that goes beyond "do not care about" into "actively dislike" for me, so it's a really hard sell on the topic.
>>84502818
I think he seems really personally mad, too.
>>84502874
Since Scott is a New God,why did this infection take him but not Jonn?
>>84502874
>J'onn does what we've all dreamed about
>>84502806
>what IS Donna's thing, now?
Until we are told otherwise, I'm gonna assume she's still a living historical anomaly. 52 explained this in an interesting and satisfactory manner, and I see no reason to alter this premise.
>>84502848
If that was the goal, mission failed. Shippers gonna ship. Filthy pests.
>>84502733
I feel bad for her. Unless Wally broke up with her before his disappearance she will be blindsided, probably just expects her bf back like he was and he's all devoted in the true love sense to some other woman. Cucked by Dr Manhattan and the speed force.
>>84502925
>oh goodness just look at the time
>>84502733
Probably Lilith pining after him and Wally maybe having some feelings that he hides because he would much prefer Linda.
>>84502838
I don't think it's the kind of work that WON'T have mass appeal (especially with all the cute girls making out she draws) but IDK, for me it's just unf. It feels really laden with feeling, not entirely material. Like I said, I got lost on it. Some Utena:
instagram.com/p/BEkskF3nBcc/?taken-by=dairyfree
>>84502908
might be an adaptability thing?
>>84503009
I like the coloring on that a lot
>get ignored for ages
>get killed off in Graduation Day for no good reason
>come back in Nu52 as one of Harvest's goons
>get rebooted again only to be blue-balled hard
Being Lilith is suffering. At least she's getting acknowledged as the honorary O5 that she is. That's something.
>>84503033
>>84502874
>I think he seems really personally mad, too.
Makes him seem either dumb or a brat then. And I'm kind of on his side here. What did he think would happen?
>>84503033
This is amazing.
>>84502623
YESSSSSSSS
I was literally just saying, as I read the previous page, "Oh man, I hope J'onn remembers to bring Nabu's helmet. ...man, it'd be awesome if he put it on to deal with this situation.".
>>84503051
DICKERY SAVES THE DAY
>>84503050
let us all forget everything about Harvest until I hurt you all with "Captain Manhattan isn't an awful run but everything else tangentially Nate in the N52 is!", the bits we didn't see yet
>>84503033
>>84503051
Legion from Castlevania, is that you?
>>84503123
QUICK ANON RANK THE GAMES IN ORDER OR I'LL CALL YOU A PLEB
>>84503120
>>84503190
J'onn is a Big Damn Hero
>>84503188
Go ahead. I've only ever played 4. Though I seriously want to play SotN cause it looks like my jam. Also, Alucard is a very pretty man, and I find this amusing for some reason.
>>84503228
>>84503188
I've only played the three DS games but they were pretty awesome
>>84503255
that's the end of the trade, so let's leave it there!
thanks for reading, more tomorrow, and I'm going to try to catch up on recent comics so I can bore you all with my opinions.
>>84503228
>J'onn is a Big Damn Hero
Yeah, but only pathetic virgins like him.
>>84503255
God I love Guy. Thanks again OP
>>84503303
how did you ever contribute to JSA, David
>>84503063
Feels like miscommunication might be at play, maybe DC downplayed how much final say Rucka would have on things. And if there was that kind of preexisting grudge and Rucka wasn't comfortable from the start maybe they never should have been put together to begin with.
>>84503295
thanks OP!
>>84503295
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.
>so I can bore you all with my opinions
Isn't that more or less the entire point of a forum?
Also, most of the League looks stoned as fuck in that group shot.
>>84503335
That all could be true, sure. There's probably some variant of Hanlon's razor here, right? Never blame individuals when editorial will suffice.
>>84503295
Thanks again OP
>>84501432
It's bringing back the Perez universe which was the standard for years until dumb writers on other titles mischaracterized her in crossovers.
This idea that people are constantly trying to reinvent Wonder Woman is simply not true, outside of JMS and Azzarello. And of course the very interesting O'Neil version we all read here.
>>84502091
>giant cyborg centaur oni
Since when does Guy have that kind of imagination?
>>84504071
other GLs were allowed to be creative before Kyle existed
>>84502201
>Binding America Together
Is Ted's company Kor/d/ In/d/ustries?
>>84503912
The second guy to write Wonder Woman after Marston kicked it, replaced her entire supporting cast, turned her mum blonde (and gave her an admittedly cool father) and changed her entire origin around.
Not only that, but when he left, he took all the characters he created with him, writing them out of existence within the damn story.
>>84503912
still bootyblasted about everything getting swept under the rug
>>84502338
>now I want, IDK, a Carol book with the level of thoughtfulness of Nate's old run
Any book with that level of thoughtfulness would be good, but how many of them ever really get done?
That book was a delight, and I think I'd pick it up if it got a nice set of reprints.
>>84502947
Does Wally just have both sets of memories, pre-Flashpoint and the memories of this new Wally?
>>84503349
OP here: oh gosh Kenan really IS bully husbando
that book better get some love
>>84503188
From the games I've played?
Order of Ecclesia > Aria of Sorrow > Portrait of Ruin > Harmony of Despair > Circle of the Moon > Dawn of Sorrow > Symphony of the Night (I played it last, after the others, so the fact that it set formula doesn't work for me since Ive played it in other games) >>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Lords of Shadow series
>>84504430
His memories are realigning with the new universe, but he's still aware this reality is different than where he came from.
>>84504430
He has both, but I'm not sure if he got new 52 wholly when Barry solidified him or if the blanks get filled in only when he zaps someone.
