>>84457357
Welcome back, Anons! Remember when Marvel could talk about the 90's without being ashamed?
Okay, full disclosure, this particular thread doesn't have anything to do with Luke OR Danny. However, the next thread does, and the series as a whole will become fairly important for their futures.
>Written and Drawn by John Byrne
So, any odds on when Byrne goes full, well, Byrne?
>>84482135
>Out of the depths and into...
Oh, I wasn't close at all with "splashing"
>>84482199
Namor is supposed to be Namor Mackenzie, millionaire CEO
>>84482187
I've been kinda meaning to read this at some point anyway.
I don't QUITE remember why they think Namor's dead. I think it has something to do with "Atlantis Attacks"? I vaguely remember it gets explained later on.
>>84482219
The point is that they were PROUDLY boasting that this was a 90's Marvel comic, yet in the fullness of time we see that as a punchline.
>>84482299
I figure it's because comics.
>>84482279
As opposed to what, Namor Robins, freak gymnast?
>>84482319
Oh, cargo cults.
>"You throw a spear at me? Fuck you, I'll smash your god and then kick ALL of your asses!"
Classic Namor.
Namor is a weird hybrid of depressed and pissed the fuck off.
>>84482293
I plan to only do half of the series, although if there's still interest, I may do the entire series before moving on.
Headhunter is pretty qt when she shows up. Looking forward to that.
I know Byrne has a reputation for fixing comic plots (even if they don't need fixing), but this right here just encapsulates it. He had to retcon a blood imbalance to explain why Namor is always angry. As opposed to the much simpler explanation, that he's just an asshole.
>>84482345
Namor, megalomaniacal king of the ocean in a speedo
And for the next few pages, we'll get Namor's backstory.
>>84482486
Well luckily during this run, he spends a lot of time doing business, at least relative to other runs.
Daddy Namor saw a half-naked blue chick, and his first thought was "Imma put my dick in that."
Namor is indeed a chip off the old block.
And here they go into detail about that Oxygen Imbalance Namor has that I don't believe anyone has brought up since.
>>84482439
If I go through all the issues I plan to without passing out early, we'll get to her tomorrow!
>>84482514
I only want to see Namor if he's a bipolar asshole who can flip back forth between kind, noble and reasonable to selfish horny fuckhead from panel to panel
>"I remember to this day how foul the water tasted."
Well yeah, it's New York water. Frankly you're lucky you didn't bump into a body while you were down there.
>>84482560
well it came up in Earth X at the very least, and I wouldn't be surprised if it came up around the time he joined the X-Men
I forget, why exactly did Namor have amnesia during the Silver Age?
>>84482199
it's pretty quick. he gives a reasonNamor is an asshole sometimes and nice sometimes
>Epilogue at the start
>Prologue at the end
Wow, and we bitch about editors now.
>>84482645
I was really referring to his vaguely pedophile tendencies.
We're about to be introduced to the long-running antagolists for the majority of the run.
>"I believe he is in the gun room."
I like to imagine that everyone in /k/ just has one of those. Like a big honking room full of guns like something out of the Matrix. I know it makes no sense at all, but I want to believe.
Remember this, she convinces her brother out of killing himself.
Also, according to the wiki this is the first appearance of Oracle Inc. If that's the case, then what was the deal with that company he randomly had in the Silver Age that he used to make a movie to get into Sue's pants that one time?
>>84482668
i figured but the fanboy pedantry is more fun to make fun of
also a quick scan of FF4 and it seems like Namor was just out of water so he had amnesia for most of the 40s and 50s??
I'm just here for based Headhunter
>>84482771
As much as I enjoy having people to read the storytimes, we're not getting to her tonight, I'm afraid.
Sorry about that, file size was too large.
Man, don't you just hate when you're talking to your father, and then a monster leaps through the window and attacks you?
Holy shit, her dad's a badass.
For those of you who've read classic New Warriors, here's Namorita.
For those of you who only liked Nova because of DnA, here's his old love interest.
Namor, buys a friggen castle even while he's supposed to be dead.
>"The world still thinks the sub-mariner is dead, so I'm going to jump out of a window and fly while wearing the scale-mail speedo that only the sub-mariner wears."
Aren't you supposed to be smart, Namor?
Turns out the Griffin made a lair in the same place volume 1 KSD Captain Marvel did.
Wow, that's some good damn eyesight.
>"this monster's mindless fury makes him almost as strong as the Hulk".
Power Creep is a hell of a thing, considering this guy was once beaten by a tag-team of Angel and Beast.
Wait, your plan was to get a mindless animal-like monster to kidnap a woman and see who'd try to save her?
Man, imagine how fucked this plan would be if, say, Spider-Man happened to be in the area.
This woman is dressed strangely skimpy considering she's only around her... twin? Are we supposed to think their twins?
I wonder if I'd have these incestual thoughts if I didn't know Byrne was on art AND scripting.
"For most of the century?" Wait, it's possible to get out there outside a helicopter?
>>84483257
Bitch is floating on panel 3
She's secretly an atlantean hybrid as well.
Well I'll be damned. Hey Anon, I was wrong, turns out we DO get a sneak peek of Headhunter tonight!
>"Nobody's beaten Namor in seventy years!"
You know, besides the Fantastic Four. And the Avengers. Shit, the Defenders probably have a few villains who have taken him out for a bit.
>>84482135
>Out of the Depths
>And into the power suit he's wearing in the logo box
This is where Danny becomes friends with Jim Hammond, right?
How far in do we need to wait for Human Torching?
DUN DUN DUN
>>84482299
>. I think it has something to do with "Atlantis Attacks"?
It would have to be something about the Avengers, he was basically the reason for the Hydrobase era.
>>84483004
Blue Nita was best Nita, though.
>>84483077
He is also really brash and temperamental.
>>84483429
They MET here, but they didn't really become friends until the first Heroes For Hire series.
>>84483456
I respect your right to that opinion, even if it is wrong.
>>84483236
I don't think she's dressed that skimpy.
>>84483004
>For those of you who only liked Nova because of DnA, here's his old love interest.
She came back at the very end of that Nova volume. However, Marvel editorial will say that never happened and she is still dead
>>84483450
If I was Namor I would carry around a squirt bottle everywhere with me
>>84483257
It was open to the public until 1916.
http://www.amny.com/lifestyle/why-can-t-we-go-up-the-statue-of-liberty-s-torch-1.7320932
>>84482611
Nice of those Irish dockhands to be as racist as dockworkers from the 40s would be, though.
I think EVERY spread page is too big for 4chan.
Oh come on, that meant that spread was basically a cop-out!
the Griffen stuff is so weird
>>84482636
I feel like Namor's eyeline here is right on Carrie's ass.
>"The only other superhero who runs around half naked is Hercules!"
I like to think that Headhunter just has an encylpedic knowledge on her beefcake.
>>84483521
Did we ever find out what the deal with that OTHER Namorita from Yost's New Warriors was?
Huh, geeky Nita doesn't look too bad...
>>84483673
>Wall Street's Most Famous Albino
Are there a lot of albinos on Wall Street?
>Secret Identity? What's that?
Look, I joke, but I'm pretty sure legit unaided flight is a relatively rare power in Marvel, at least compared to super strength.
Oh god, Namor's gonna do something fucking stupid again...
>>84483721
People joke that the Jews control the world, but in reality it's the Albinos. They just let the rest of the world think the jews do. It's a convent scapegoat.
>"I have lost my Atlantean throne once again, perhaps for all time..."
Spoilers, he gets it back.
Namor McKenzie, Animal Trainer.
>>84483077
Uh, Namor, she is a Warrior. A NEW Warrior.
>that smug as fuck grin
>>84483781
>convent scapegoat
A scapegoat that lives with nuns?
>>84483871
I meant to say convenient, but that too.
Namor decides to make a better symbol than that shit from ET.
Oh god, what is he planning?
wut
>>84483646
Well, Hercules up until the mid 90s when he went all Kevin Sorbo almost always just wore a miniskirt and a sash. Like, everywhere.
What the hell?
>>84483951
He wore that in Incredible Hercules too.
So basically this entire building is now dead, from the CEOs to the poor Janitors.
>>84484015
Namor don't fuck around.
>>84483993
It's a good design.
When your brother convinces you to whore yourself out to destroy some dude who he's obsessed with out of BOREDOM, you should rethink your life choices.
Namor vs. The Bubonic Plague!
>>84484044
And then Dan Abnett decided to mix things up.
Wait, THAT'S what Oracle does? It's an Oil company?
If only Matt Murdock's girlfriends showed this kind of self-preservation instinct.
>>84482135
This was such a fucking shit run. What was Byrne thinking?
Only thing worthwhile that came out of this was that "Headhunter" bitch or whatever her name was. Most underrated waifu bitch EVER.
>>84483924
Say what you like about Byrne, that nigga could DRAW.
Huh, I guess the Griffith didn't just straight up murder them all.
>>84484189
I dunno, I kind of liked the run.
That said, for better of worse, the only thing that people seem to agree is that Headhunter is amazing.
She gives him the ole' Hank Pym, and she still doesn't reconsider this plan.
>>84484207
Even the background is shaded differently in each panel, so you can only imagine he did the same background pencils four times!
I wanted to like this series, but the writing was never better than mediocre and the Byrne chunk of it had him out of the water all the time.
At least it had some cool art though.
You can give orders to your subordinates, but you can't put your foot down and tell your brother you won't be whored out for his own boredom?
Bitch.
Fucking hell Nita, it looks like you've been snorting Joker Gas in that fourth panel!
>>84484252
Man, this story is a bit schizo so far, though.
>New supporting cast
>Namor is "dead"
>Except, no, he goes all Submariner on Roxxon
>His new supporting cast quits
>oh wait except no, noone believes he's alive!
How old is Nita? Is putting her in that dress enough to qualify for going full Byrne, or is she legal yet?
>>84484329
I thought that was the point, she takes out her frustration with how her brother controls her life by bullying her lessers.
>>84484348
>>84484311
Maybe my opinion would be different if I read previous Namor, but the characterization seems to fit how they act in the other books I've seen them in, and Namor acting primarily on the surface is likely an intentional choice, to focus on the buisnessman aspect that was hinted in the Silver Age Fantastic Four, but never came up outside of that, to my knowledge.
Credit where it's due, it's an interesting angle to go for.
>"Let's Party!"
>"I'm so BORED!"
>>84484376
I remember her being old enough to drink in New Warriors, not sure where this series is in relation to that though.
>>84484433
Same year, and she's clearly holding champagne on this page now that I look at it.
WAS enamored? You mean there was a time when writers finally had him get over Sue Storm?
>Everyone else looks on in shock
>Desmond doesn't even change his expression from smug
Fucking hell, you're lucky this is the age before cameras were everywhere.
>"It's the Sub-Mariner! Maybe he caused that blast, spilling oil into the ocean!"
That's a particular kind of retarded, because that's the kind of shit that makes him drop a tidal wave on a city.
>>84482375
LOL Even way back then Namor was a fucking asshole who shits on indigenous people. He and BP were bound to hate one another.
Okay Anons, I'm starting to fall asleep. Lemme nuke the last of my pizza and do the last two issues.
>>84484536
>back then
>90s
Fucking with dumb tribal ooga boogas is how Namor brought cap back to life
How many issues you posting?
>>84484536
http://8cn.info/sites/default/files/avengers00403b-27276.jpg
pottery
>>84484536
>>84484577
>>84484599
>We can now confirm it's canon Namor do not fuck with tribe people .
>>84483236
I *assume* these two are fucking. It would be irrational for them not to.
>>84484564
That is a nice page.
And I'm back.
>>84484599
>>84484536
Christ Namor....
Side note: I like how awesomely Namor's attitude is while he wrecks their shit. He manages to compliment himself while insulting them.
Gotta love how much of a lovable jerk Namor is
>>84484579
I'm doing six issues tonight. This is issue five.
>>84484683
Namor's always been an asshole, even back during the Golden Age.
For those of you who only got into comics from the MCU, Tony originally had the secret identity that Iron Man just worked for him as security.
>>84484660
They're brother and sister though.
>>84484736
And? It's Byrne, after all.
>>84483004
Shit, nobody ever drew her better.Or did they?
>Sue is using her husband as a raft
Fucking hell woman, can't you float around with Force Fields?
Fucking hell, are you insane?
>>84483390
ATTENTION!
FIRST APPEARANCE OF HEADHUNTER!
I REPEAT!
THIS IS THE FIRST EVER APPEARANCE OF THE MOST UNDERRATED BITCH IN COMICS HISTORY!
>>84484744
Besides, it's a really easy way to make villains creepy.
>>84484756
Maybe Reed wanted to show off.
>>84484778
And her first appearance had her half naked too. If anyone in modern Marvel knew who she was, she could make a good Iron Man villain.
Well, a Tony Stark villain at least.
>>84484063
Well know that is just the most incest-y scene ever in comics.
... I just got through reading Swamp Thing, and this nutter makes the Floronic Man seem sane.
>>84484765
>see storytimer
>see black guy
>think it's Cage
Is that raciest?
>>84484112
What they did with the shading there is impressive as fuck.
>>84484811
Outside of Ultimate Marvel?
>>84484213
>>84484252
More REALLY FUCKING NICE shading.
This smug motherfucker...
>>84484278
>this page
BYYYYYYYYYYYYYYRRRRRRRRRRNNNNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>84484835
It's actually even more fucked because at least there was some possibility that Millar was just joking.
I know we like to make jokes about Reed vs Plastic Man, but can O'Brian actually stretch THAT far?
>>84484823
There's no way that New York is a worse ecological blight than the sprawling blacktop labyrinth that is Los Angeles.
>>84484883
Well I DID say we're doing this because it continues the story of Luke Cage and Danny Rand, but the moment he felt an elbow to the stomach you should've realized "Yeah, that ain't Cage.
>>84484849
Yep. They are totally fucking.
The Dead Man's switch. The greatest nemesis of superheroes everywhere.
>>84484894
And then there's friggen China.
Oh hey, what's Johnny Storm doing here?
Oh, wait...
>"Where in BLAZES is Namor?"
Tony, you insensitive prick. He was set on fire!
I'm assuming Deus Ex Machinas like this were why Byrne isn't writing more stories where Namor was in the water? Because they could just make up fish that could solve whatever problems he was having?
Damn it Reed, stop with the science, just ONCE.
And random Speedball cameo.
Well, if we weren't at maximum Byrne, we are now.
>>84485065
But we've established that Namorita isn't underage!
>>84485084
It's still lewd as fuck!
Oh hey, they're back.
Daily reminder that Dolphins rape people.
Just... just throwing that out there.
>>84485097
It's still not a pregnant twelve year old in bondage.
>>84485133
It looks like she's getting raped by bubbles, for fuck's sake!
>>84485132
This was before dolphins were synonymous with rape.
>>84485145
Sorry, Next Men was actual Peak Byrne.
>>84485150
I'm not blaming THAT one on Byrne. I'm just pointing it out now, so we can laugh at the implication that Nita may or may not have fucked a dolphin.
>>84485159
Do you just have that image saved so you can post it in Byrne threads?
>"Bail was set at one billion dollars"
Jesus fucking christ, is it even legal to set bail that expensive?
Yet again, this wouldn't have happened if she let him off himself in the first issue.
Byrne REALLY missed writing Superman, it looks like.
>>84485180
Yes. I also have Pedo Lex Luthor and Robotman making out with Rita Farr when she was technically 8.
>>84485256
How much did writing She-Hulk, a series with a full grown women, kill him inside?
>>84485237
Codependency is an ugly thing.
>"I've got to know what that is!"
It's dangerous, and wants to kill you, and is able to easily do so, what more do you need to know?
>>84485237
>>84485249
This is the worst plan ever.
>>84485266
As far as I can tell he actually like She-Hulk though.
>>84485281
I don't think he's anywhere NEAR as smart as he thinks he is. On the other hand, he's a sociopath who probably doesn't care about his sister, so it's not like he'd care if she died.
>>84485285
Speaking of, has Marvel announced more than the one trade of his run yet?
Fucking hell, he stripped in a single panel!
>>84485308
Nope.
Huh. That could be a problem.
And that's it for tonight, Anons. See you tomorrow for more of everyone's favorite waifu, as well as the startling re-appearance of someone we haven't seen in a while...
>>84485363
well that is quite the image
I like his personality but hate his character design and background story.
It would work great for Black Adam
>>84482135
God I love me some Namor, thanks anon
>>84483139
Goddamn otherkin.
>>84484278
>Shut up and go suck Namor's dick!
>>84484432
>2nd panel
Hi, Tony!
>>84482135
You gonna go through to the Jae Lee stuff?
Hands down best arc of the run IMO. I found Byrne's a little bland, and frankly un-Namory.
>>84485097
Warrior woman?
>>84482299
>>84483454
Yeah, it was Atlantis Attacks. The bad guys lure him into a trap and blow the location up and everyone acts like Namor's totally certainly definitely dead for really realsies guys up until the climatic final issue comes around and, surprise surprise, he ain't.
>>84482468
>Byrne
>fixingActually I'll admit to ignorance here. All I've heard are the horror stories like tearing apart the FF and the Vision debacle. Any examples of him genuinely "fixing" anything?
>>84484994
Eh, unkown sea-monsters are a Marvel staple.
>>84482468
Also Byrne's explanation was actually a good thing. Namor's nothing as simple as an "asshole", he's a fucking headcase. It provided a canon reason for all the bipolar inconsistency.
Just saying. If Gruenwald beat him to it y'alld be lappin' it up.
>>84482742
I skipped all of this shit when I read this run.
It's a Namor comic. I'm here for Namor and Namor accessories. Not normies & economics.
>>84485047
Not so random; Nita went to round up the New Warriors.
>>84484948
>>84485047
>>84485133
Did someone say...
>>84485363
Sea monsters were way too few and far between in this.
>>84485249
>Namor sued by DC Comics!
>>84484252
>>84484839
Yeah, artistically that's probably my favourite page.
>>84488372
>>84484994
Maybe he shouldn't be fucking writing Namor then.
>>84488572
Eh. Heard of that one too. It was so minor that I entirely forgot it.
Anything more challenging? Or, I dunno, beneficial to canon? Shit I'd take "and THAT'S why all supervillains used to wear green and purple".
>>84488642
The thing is, it's crazy OCD/Aspie shit like this (Norman and Sandman have to be related BECAUSE THEY HAVE SIMILAR HAIRSTYLES) that he's famous for.
He also HAD to retcon Doc Ock's relationship with Aunt May into him just being after her inheritance, and TELL PETER PARKER THAT TO HIS FACE, in very uncharacteristic-for-Doc-Ock language in one of the annuals.
He's a loon.
>>84485038
>Reed Richards, fish molester
>>84484803
>If anyone in modern Marvel knew who she was
She was in Villains for Hire for a bit.
>>84485228
Byrne is really lazy about establishing shots by this point. Every building or skyline seems to be photostatted.
>>84482396
why can a man who is under the ocean have the power to fly?
>>84493128
It's easier for him to kill Nazis, menace New York, and fight the Human Torch that way.
>>84493128
The wings on his feet that allow him to fly are a mutation. It's why he was an X-Man for a bit
>>84493128
Because Bill Everett like Greek Mythology.
>>84493128
he's a mutant
>>84488731
>He also HAD to retcon Doc Ock's relationship with Aunt May into him just being after her inheritance, and TELL PETER PARKER THAT TO HIS FACE, in very uncharacteristic-for-Doc-Ock language in one of the annuals.
He was responsible for that? I thought that as just some classic Silver Age weirdness.
>>84494924
Wait, does he really have to flap those tiny ass wings to fly?
Thanks, OP.
