last storytime before I go to bed, someone else is going to have to do Nightwing
>>84462921
>>84462957
>You're telling me that you wouldn't have used your powers to save your mother?
>................................uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
top kek
>>84462921
I didn't even realize this was out this week.
>>84462989
literally an
>August, I....
>>84462921
what are you, australian?
>>84462941
>I forgot how much I enjoyed teaching about the Speed Force
I like how Barry remembering Wally now is being weaved into little moments like that.
>>84463000
Because of the art I need to ask. Is that Iris that just got struck?
why is this art so bad
>>84463016
Why is your taste so shit?
>>84463010
No, different woman. Iris ditches her purse in the kidnappers' van.
Black Wally does get struck, though.
>>84462957
>top right panel
Almost coughed up my tea.
>>84463000
The speed force is a slut
>>84462982
not a bad costume.
>>84463042
But he already has speed force powers. That's a waste of electricity.
>>84462976
>Keep the speedforce for yourself
>Barry literally generates speedforce, making there more to go around
>>84463070
double speedforce
>>84463056
Wally has corrupted the speed force.
It used to be pure!
Also, while August did have some minor "Godspeed" vibes (at least, what I'm *assuming* are Godspeed vibes based on Williamson's interviews), I don't think he'll be the antagonist. Plus, his current costume is too cool to ditch so soon.
And I'm an idiot. I now see that it's August on the main cover! The pink color and other things made me think it was one of the new female speedsters.
>>84463000
>BWally gets hit
>AGAIN
mad
>>84463092
Godspeed is meant to be a speedster hunter, so I could see August deciding all these others are abusing their powers and need to be put down
I like Heart's costume, but I feel it's better suited for a younger character like a Kid Flash.
>>84463032
wait, is there like a general consensus that is acceptable art?
>>84463130
Aviator goggles and a double breasted jacket aren't really a kid's style.
>>84463132
the only acceptable art is cheesecake, according to /co/. everything else is either garbage ugly or bland house style or weaboo shit
>that Jacket
>those goggles
>that logo
So he's Jays nephew right?
>>84463168
>tfw Zolomon!Jay and August both have my dream updated Jay design
Damn it, I know the shirts a classic but the double breasted jacket is perfectly old school/ww2
>>84463152
his costume is Justice League 3000
>>84463007
Thing is, Barry never taught Wally anything about the Speed Force. Wally was the self taught expert on it and Barry had shit to learn from him.
I really like Hearts costume, gives me a steampunky vibe.
>>84463016
t. Hose style cuck
He is wearing the same exact costume as the flash in JL 3k and 3001
>>84463016
The style actually really suits the Flash.
>>84462955
> not without a search warrant
God, I missed Barry acting like Barry so much.
>>84463203
I think that means hes is gonna die 3 times or more
>>84463203
>>84463187
No its not, only 2 elements
The only thing they have in common is goggles. The jackets collar coveribg his mouth is reminding you of JL3K Barrys scarf
>>84462984
Some of the dialogue is off. "August's Speed Force" sounds off. August doesn't have his own personal speed force.
Say his connection, or his aura, or something. But reducing it down too much just makes it sounds too ubiquitous.
>>84463016
Because its okayish figure work pasted on top of shitty 3d models
>>84463188
Can someone ask Williamson on Twitter about this? It's literally what differs Wally from Barry. If Rebirth is keeping pre-Flashpoint in continuity, Terminal Velocity still happened.
>>84463188
I recall Waid's run beginning with flashbacks of Barry training Wally.
>>84463263
Barry definitely trained Wally, but Barry didn't know shit about Speed Force. Considering it didn't even exist until after he died. Wally had to figure out most of the shit on his own.
Barry taught him how to use speedster powers but he's the Speed Force novice compared to Wally. Heck even in Rebirth 1.0 Wally said he had to teach Barry some stuff since he came back.
>>84463250
It's just retconning it. Barry's now the one who "figured out" the Speed Force because it more centralizes Barry as the core Flash figure. Anything really important about Flash mythos will be appropriated by Barry. Ala "Barry made me The Flash" -- Jay Garrick, 2010.
>>84463271
Sounds like you're just splitting hairs now.
>>84462945
Good boy, dindu break them car windows.
>>84462941
>but these powers come with--
Responsibility, eh?
>>84462945
>Uncle Daniel
Is this still a thing? I thought they retconned it. It's not like Iris wouldn't know he's not rudy's kid at this point if Daniel fathered him.
>>84463304
No, terrifying backfire outcomes.
>>84463290
There's a difference in the two. There's lots of people who can do superspeed tricks. Speed Force specific stuff was Wally's schtick that differentiated him from Barry (and helped him get out of his shadow) until Barry came back and was retroactively the best at Speed Force.
>>84463280
This sounds horrible, especially after swearing Rebirth isn't a reboot.
Terminal Velocity is a treasure for Flash, I thought this guy was a fan of Waid.
>>84463345
Superspeed powers that come from the speedforce and speedforce powers seems like a pretty minor difference. Think you're just getting autistic over wording.
>>84463399
No, Barry didn't knew about the Speed Force. Actually, it was the fact that Barry knew so little about his powers that he created the famous "Flash Facts" using his science knowledge to learn and remind himself of what he learned. Barry used to be extremely wary and cautious about his powers.
That was always the difference between Barry and Wally. While Barry feared and treated his powers as a science project, Wally gave no fucks despite Barry's warnings and would use the powers without giving any fucks.
Speed Force was a big mystery that Wally learned piece by piece after Barry death and with the help of Max.
Barry being the expert of everything Speed Force related is an appropriation.
>>84462957
Well Barrry? Answer the nice man
>>84463233
>muh poser
>waaaah
>>84463304
temptations that you must never ever succumb to or reality will swallow you whole
>>84463000
>Wally get's hit again
what does that mean?
>>84463452
Even in New 52, Barry isn't very well at his SF powers, he beat Daniel without knowing what the fuck he did, he said it on panel.
Flash facts are still in-continuity. Wally's time as Flash is still referred and Wally still dares to call himself Fastest Man Alive.
Let's be honest this book is a mess now. Wally still calling Danny an uncle is a cherry on top.
>>84463351
That didn't come from Rebirth. They've been pulling this shit in DC for years now where Barry is THE Flash and he did everything before everybody.
>>84463452
>>84463345
>>84463280
>>84463351
>>84463528
Wow, Wally fags are incredibly insecure and thin skinned.
>>84463481
He started losing his powers with older Wally's return (which adds more to theory that SF actively tried to replace Wally when he was erased and picked the second closest option), now he got hit again which makes him a speedster on his own now.
>>84463528
Yeah, it's better to vote with wallet about this.
>>84463549
what's your point?
>>84463481
he was just complaining a few pages prior it felt like his powers were fading, and that he only had a small amount of time to make the most of them before they were gone
presumably he just got a top up
>>84463549
and Barryfags think everything good about The Flash came from Barry. Someone's got to correct them.
>>84463584
That seems rather pointless. It's not like his powers were fading before. Just some wasted page space I guess.
>>84463399
Actually a huge difference. There's plenty of non-speed force speedsters. They don't get a slew of powers speedsters get that Wally basically stumbled upon through years.
I think it's actually a majority of the powers. The only one Barry could do that was (became) speed force specific was phasing through things.
Barry has been the best and most competent Flash in everything since Flash:Rebirth. Johns literally BTFO all Wallycucks in one fell swoop. I don't get why you faggots ate still so booty blasted. Barry is better than Wally, just accept the reality.
is the scarred villain Godspeed?
>>84462921
This cover is HORRIBLE. It doesn't even look like a Flash cover at a glance.
>>84462935
Least subtle reveal ever.
>>84462945
SHIT CHARACTER ALERT
This issue makes me more confident in the book. I'm not looking forward to the Speedster Island arc, but the creative team seems pretty good.
Also jesus christ is Superboy Prime typing in this thread? Chill. Barry knows that his powers come from the Speed Force in New52. He taught Wally speed tricks when Wally was Kid Flash. Wally then went on to the Titans and was disappeared by ???. Barry misses having a sidekick. Nowhere in this book does it say Barry is the foremost expert on Speed Force lore and the last run proved the opposite over and over again. He literally says he learns something new about it every day on >>84462951 so fucking calm your shit.
Wallyfriends are just as bad as Dick Grayson purists.
>>84462976
why do those niggas look like iron man
>>84462982
decent-ish costume
>>84463481
I bet the writer had this planned from the beginning and then they found out that Wally got powers before the end of the last run so they changed it.
>>84463005
I did not expect this turn of events.
>>84463188
I think he meant teaching about using his powers, which Barry actually did.
>>84463016
It's OK.
This art is such a great fit for Flash and the coloring is outstanding. Too bad the writing sucks.
>>84464194
>Wally, I
It's better than I thought it'd be. I didn't have any hope after reading the patsy two issues, but this gives me some hope.
>>84464366
*past
>>84463933
>most competent Flash in everything since Flash:Rebirth.
> what is flashpoint
> what is future flash
Barry did nothing but plague the book with mediocrity.
>>84463933
Barry literally killed an entire universe he was so bad.
1/10 troll, don't even know what you're trolling about
>>84462989
>>84464194
>>84464344
Cleaned up the text a bit.
>>84462982
Reminds me of that Flash from Multiversity. I think he was supposed to be the cowboy Flash.
>>84464073
>dick grayson
>pure
the man's a SLUT
>>84463323
is daniel west black?
>>84463323
Mayve someone didn’t get the memo
>>84465111
No the black one is Wally's mom, he's half white.
>>84462989
>>84462994
Damn he acts like Wally was his bf
>>84462945
when are they going to introduce Hal Jordan's Nephew Hal Jordan?
>>84465417
oh cool, thanks man
>>84465523
its not like this sort of retardation is even new to comics, lest we forget Mongul and his son
I just want to see what happens with Doctor Manhatten
>>84465574
>Mongul and his son
Don't remind me of Mongul II and Mongal
>>84465523
Never, cuz he's not black.
That's literally the only reason this character exists. It's so transparent and pathetic.
What sucks is his existence makes it so Bart doesn't get to be around, since he bumped him out of Teen Titans. And no, not "Bar tor" or whatever.
>>84462951
>Do we even need evidence?
WHOA NOW THAT'S SUPERVILLAIN TALK
>>84465523
You joke, but pre-New 52 Airwave was his cousin and shared the same name, if I remember correctly.
>>84462972
Motherfucker just looks evil.
>Flash Island
kek didn't expect that to happen. Definitely part of Black Hole's plan.
>>84463005
THUNDER!
AAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAAAAHAHAHA
>>84465601
>>84465574
>Don't talk to me or my Mongul every again
>>84465491
He's more like a proud dad. Since that's what he was.
It must be weird for Barry remembering pieces of ten years of his life that he's never had.
>>84462921
Maybe the Speed Force is going crazy in response to Manhattan fucking everything up and creating new speedsters to fight him?
>>84466940
The villains went on about how Barry was keeping the speedforce to himself and they have technology that manipulates speedforce, it's pretty obvious they're the ones making the storm. Probably to make an army of speedforce users.
Not gonna read it until I pick it up from my store in two weeks, but was this issue better than the Rebirth and #1 issue?
>>84467710
It's pretty much on par with the previous issues, but I like it.
>>84467768
Probably gonna drop it then. Didn't hate the first two, but they didn't grab me either and I'm already pulling way too many comics.
Thanks anon.
>>84463012
Lol, batman has his own bat crowbar.
The Flash 002 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Slayer)
http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/QQkjG9wt/file.html
>>84467710
As someone who didn't find the first two to be good, I liked this one.
>>84467710
Honestly unless you are a casual and this is your first Flash book, drop it because there is nothing interesting or new here. Buy Chinese Super-man instead.
>>84463016
It's better than you, Brett.
>>84468629
This is my first Flash book, but also grabbing Chinese Super-man as well.
>>84462982
The costume is quite cute, I like it.
>>84463005
But this probably mean he won't keep his powers for long
This issue was pretty good.
And, last but not least: >>84463016Fuck you:^)
Is issue #1 still around somewhere?
>>84462957
come on barry, tell the truth
>>84462982
did he learn how to make a suit himself?
>>84469998
Nope, definitely not Speedforce.
>>84463000
>>84463005
everybody gets the speedforce
>>84465523
His cousin was named Hal not his nephew
Fucking newfags
>>84462957
reminder that Barry did nothing wrong
>>84465491
Wally is best boy, show some fucking respect
>>84462921
damnit OP, why didn't you label this. I had a hard time looking for it.
>>84470298
>his COUSIN also has the same fucking name
truly it is pottery
>>84462976
>Negative Speed Force
Holy fuck, they're actually going through with it. Johns was planting those seeds back in Flash Rebirth.
>>84462963
The sons of Iron Man
>>84470652
I'm pretty sure Johns got the idea for this retcon there with the Hals
>>84462967
The pepper gas worked, the mask literally is just to look cool.
>>84471234
oh fuck i didnt even notice hahahaha
>>84463005
This is just spider island: speed force edition
And I love it
>>84463092
What new female speedster?
>get rid of the Flash Family
>let a zillion other random people have speedster powers
>>84465523
>he doesn't know
Hal Jordan>Hal Jordan
Thanks, OP.
bumping for others.
>>84466940
My personal theory is that the Speed Force got bored and is trying to shake things up with how the New 52 started stagnating.
>>84472463
But they're slowly rebuilding the Flash Family.
>>84475997
They're rebuilding A Flash family.
We're gonna have to wait and see on stuff like Jay and the Quicks, or Wally's family, until Titans and JSA shake out.
Barry, his not-girlfriend's two nephews with the same name, and Barry's cop friend doesn't have the same kind of generational legacy elements to it.
Wally brought uncut pre-new 52 Speedforce back with him, it overloaded the universe.
>>84465523
Airwave is Hal's cousin, not his nephew.
>>84472463
After the overwhelmingly positive response to Rebirth and bringing stuff like love back I garuntee they're eventually going to bring back the Flash family proper.
>>84462957
Well Barry? Arent you gonna answer the man?
>>84463000
>>84463005
>You get the speedforce
>You get the speedforce
>Huh? Wally West? Aw fuck it, YOU get the speedforce
>Everybodys speedy!
Damn speedforce, control your hormones
>>84463056
Weird how that happened right after it got BLACKED
>>84479426
Does it only count with black males? We had Jenni for 20 years before it when full whore
>>84462955
>hear me out, Barry
>tfw we get a Flash Corps
Yes
>>84480187
>no Zoom corps
>no Zoom/Kadabra War
it still hurts
>>84480187
>Flash Corps
>Not FlashForce
Step it up
>>84480415
>>84480221
>>84480187
>Not Lightning Strike
Git Gud
>>84462989
>>84462994
This just makes me want to see Barry and Wally interacting more, dammit.
>>84480415
>>84480621
>>84480187
>Not The Speed Force
Are you all retarded?
>>84480803
I'm upset the Wallys haven't hung out yet
![5flash+variant+cv4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UrcMcsD.jpg "5flash+variant+cv4[1].jpg")
The Flash #4 variant
>>84463968
I have no idea what's going on in any of these Rebirth books.
>>84483538
Have you tried reading them?
I am legit scared Williamson will pull a Synder and make these OCs his pets.
I don't want August to be a "fan favorite" /co/
>>84463070
It's mentioned in this very issue that Wally's connection to the Speed Force feels as if it is slipping. This blast is likely intended to reinforce that connection, among other possible things.
>>84463152
Not the person you quoted, but I see it as something a kid might wear because they think it looks cool. To their credit, I agree in this case; I do think it looks cool.
>>84483892
I feel that attitudes like the one in this post are one of the prime reasons we can't have nice new things.
The constant Catch-22 and shifting of goal posts.
It's not just me, right? This book is fucking great so far.
>>84484381
I'm lovin' it, myself.
My greatest fear is that they won't follow through with these new characters, especially the potential heroic ones, as is what happened in the past when folks got Speed Force powers in the New52 (other than Daniel West/Reverse Flash, but that was only because he was a villain who they generally didn't have to worry about caring to develop him past being another of many thorns in Flash's side), but so far, it seems promising, and in the meantime, it's really been fun, so yeah. I'm lovin' it!
So, August is Godspeed, right? Seems so obvious
>>84484833
He could be, but those same obvious cues make it seem not so obvious, too. I'm thinking he might be a red herring.
>>84462989
Jesus christ, the gay undertones are ridiculous
>>84485371
Other than the last line, I suppose, could you give some specifics?
>>84485622
he probably means the whole "I was lonely, did the speedforce give me a bf?" thing
>>84485648
Oh. Yeah, I can see where the idea comes from now.
>>84470652
I once met a guy at a wedding who named his kid Logan after Wolverine. And then six months later the kid's cousin was born and also named Logan after Wolverine. Point is, there are uncreative dumbasses everywhere.
>>84483337
I want to believe this is the Top but I know I can't be that lucky.
>>84485371
Since Rebirth, Barry's feelings for Wally....changed....to say the least
>>84462921
2? Fuck I missed number 1
>>84480951
>Implying we can get nice things
>>84484833
And because it's obvious it means he's not him
>>84463005
I count 8
>>84463188
This is not pre-flashpoint timeline tho, this Barry knew about the speedforce before wally
>>84470095
YOU GET THE SPEED FORCE.
AND YOU GET THE SPEED FORCE.
AND YOU GET THE SPEED FORCE.
AND YOU GET THE SPEED FORCE.
EVERYBODY GETS THE SPEED FORCE!
>>84462967
Do not fucking tell me those masks they're wearing don't protect their eyes from goddamn mace.
They should file for a new Villain to work under.
