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>“Wonder Woman” hits movie theaters around the world next summer when Gal Gadot returns as the title character in the epic action adventure from director Patty Jenkins. Before she was Wonder Woman, she was Diana, princess of the Amazons, trained to be an unconquerable warrior. Raised on a sheltered island paradise, when an American pilot crashes on their shores and tells of a massive conflict raging in the outside world, Diana leaves her home, convinced she can stop the threat. Fighting alongside man in a war to end all wars, Diana will discover her full powers…and her true destiny.

>Joining Gadot in the international cast are Chris Pine, Connie Nielsen, Robin Wright, David Thewlis, Danny Huston, Elena Anaya, Ewen Bremner and Saïd Taghmaoui. Jenkins directs the film from a screenplay by Allan Heinberg and Geoff Johns, story by Zack Snyder & Allan Heinberg, based on characters from DC Entertainment.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160711006437/en/Warner-Bros.-Pictures-Brings-Heroes-Magic-Myth

Allan Heinberg also wrote a bunch of comics for DC and Marvel.
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>Johns writing Wonder Woman
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>>84427552
>story by Zack Snyder
RIP
Hello JL 0.75
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>>84427552
So the writer wasn't Jason Fuchs, interesting.
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>>84427552
>story by Zack Snyder

wee lad
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>>84427649
Forgot to add, didn't Heinberg make Hulkling and Wiccan? I think he was executive producing the Wonder Woman TV series Amazon that they were toying with too.
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Heinberg had a run on Wonder Woman. It was awful
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Allan Heinberg also wrote this which was pretty good

>>84427640
>>84427693
Is that surprising though? Of course he developed the story - he developed the DCEU and Wonder Woman's story arc has to flow with BvS. Plus story credits mean little.

>>84427649
He was involved when MacLaren was attached. Must of dropped him after she left and Pan flopped.
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>>84427640
>>84427693
"Story By" means nothing really. You can get that credit by saying "steve Trevor lands on the island of the Amazons, has Diana take him back to the outside world, discovers what the world is like in WWI" to get that credit.
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I didn't realize WWI aircraft had the range to reach Paradise island.
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>>84427552
A writter that never touched a wonder woman comic before 2014. Fuck johns, he has been using his cco position to get gigs he doesn't belong, fucking johns on a batman and wonder woman movie.
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>>84427649

Films go through writers like whores go through panties. If there's an "and" in the writing credits that means the writers worked separately, and any number of writers could have contributed in an uncredited capacity.
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>>84427552
Screenplay by producer of The O.C. and Gilmore Girls, plus someone who can't write Wondy
story by previously mentioned producer and Hack Snyder

I don't get it
why don't they want this movie to be good
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>>84427897
Heinberg is the writer. He wrote Wonder Woman in 2008. Johns is the CCO. His job is basically to be a DC encyclopedia and go "Hey, it might be fun if..." like how we got Martian Manhunter on Supergirl. Script input like that gets a credit.
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>getting actual successful and acclaimed comic book writers who have written for WW and FUCKING CONTROLS DC COMICS to write a comic book movie - something that always never happens
>mean that Fuchs, whose credits includes shit like Ice Age 4 and Pan, didn't write the script
>/co/ still finds reasons to complain

Fuck this board. You people are never happy
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>>84427776
>Allan Heinberg also wrote this which was pretty good

It wasn't good. It was ok. He also wrote a shitty pitch for that Amazon series that never happened.
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>>84427993
The defense force of johns is always in this threads. He isnt an enciclopedia, especially when he didn't. Read wonder woman until 2014
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>>84428019
>Story by Zack Snyder

There's enough reason to complain.
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>Zack Snyder story
>Geoff Johns trying to write Wonder Woman
>Soap opera writer

welp, it's fucked
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>>84427993
>like we got martian manhunter
More like he got rid of jon and replaced him with cyborg, that's 100% johns
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>>84428019
Johns never wrote the Wonder Woman book. He wrote her poorly for the most part and tried to do something better in the last couple of years that resulted in something mediocre.

Heinberg's run on WW was weak.

Zack Snyder is Zack Snyder.
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Zack has story credit since he was the one who proposed and broke down the basics of the story (based in WWI and stuff like that) and ensured continuity between BvS and JL.
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>>84428019
>johns wondy
>not shit
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>>84428019
only when it comes to DC
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>>84427993
>Script input like that gets a credit.
What. No, it doesn't.

The WGA doesn't work like that, AT ALL. If Heinberg and Johns are getting a "Screenplay by" credit, then that means Johns actually wrote a *substantial* part of the script.

Hell, even to get a "story by" credit, you need to write at least a 10-30 page treatment or so, and show credit that you've written most of that.
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>>84427993
are either of those good things
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>>84428073
>>84428107
>Zack Snyder story
The story credit is irrelevant.
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>>84428225
If its good it was thabks to johns, if its shit, others sre to blame in the mind of johnsfags
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>>84427552
>story by Zack Snyder & Allan Heinberg
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>>84428180
ALSO

With Geoff Johns being the CCO of DC (and effectively being a "suit"), the WGA would automatically trigger an arbitration.

The tl;dr of that is, if Johns actually gets a screenplay credit, then he really did do at least half (probably a lot more, given how willing the WGA is to protect writers) of the writing.
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>>84428275
Johnsfags are the worst
what has he done but ruin Flash and Green Lantern comics forever
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>>84428329
A story credit means they credited the general gist of the plot, they didn't write it.
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>screenplay by mediocre WW writers Heinberg and Johns
>story by Zack Snyder
>starring Gal "I literally cannot act to save my life" Gadot

This should go well.
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>>84427597
depends on how long ago it was written, remember he read vol 2 and corrected his misconceptions of her around Amazo Virus
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Geoff Johns is so much better than Jason Fuchs but even he isn't that good of a WW writer. Though I am at least somewhat relieved that Fuchs is gone.

God, I just want this to be good.
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>>84428493
Also a director who never directed an action film and is simply emulating Snyder's action style
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Also so they're just going to be showing WW and SS? Nothing about the JL movie?

At least give me everyone's costumes.
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>>84428621
Ill take emulating Snyder's action over whatever the fuck most other directors do
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>>84428621
You know that's early footage right?
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>>84428621
I really think the movie would probably be better if they'd gotten someone who had experience directing action movies.

They were only looking for female movie directors just to score diversity points imo. I can see WHY they'd do it but they should just get the best person for the job.

Still cautiously optimistic.

Also does anyone have all those images of the costumes and props they released a few weeks ago?
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>>84428697
The Russos never directed action before Winter Soldiers.
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Patty jenkins was a good choice

>Woman
>Strong with getting good performances out of actors
>Experienced with Drama

Give her a good 2nd unit for the action and good action choreographer (Isn't Snyder's guy doing this) and you're set.
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>>84428795
Paintball episodes of Community beg to differ
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>>84428795
Oh fuck, good point.

Doesn't Marvel have more control over their movies though?
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>>84428892
Ya, but that doesn't stop the thor movies and Iron Man 2 and 3 from sorta sucking.
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>>84429011
Not really the point I was making, but whatever.
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>>84428543
And it still was not nearly good. He just had her saying endless monologues.
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>>84428543
And then he gave us the terrible darkside war
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Heinberg's run was mediocre but I think he wrote a good Wonder Woman character. So maybe there will be at least some good characterization.

I remember his pitch for the Amazon series sounded weak though.
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>heels
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Alright, I'm done.
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>>84429247
This is an action figure and not the actual costume, right?
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>>84429487
No, these are recreations for public viewing.
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I swear to god if this movie isn't good..
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>>84428892
Marvel is the monkey over their directors back if thats what you mean.
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>>84428892
>Disney
>give up control

Yeah, no.
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>/co/ comoplaining about the writers and directors of capeshit

The MCU's writers and directors are all hacks if you look at their previous work
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>/co/ didn't like Secret Agent Wonder Woman with delicious Dodson on art

Heinberg's small run was better than Simone's pile of shit afterwards.
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>>84430716
>it was better than a pile of shit

I agree
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>>84428621
Snyder only has a job because of his visual style, I'm all for emulating that but gutting his story telling.
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>>84429140
heh, her sword actually having a diagram of childbirth is an interesting touch. I kinda like the detail they have, but it is a shame that the movie will probably suck.
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>>84430716
>>84430730
What the fuck am I reading? Simone's run was mostly good but hindered by executive meddling. It'd probably one of the best if DC hadn't gone full retard.
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>>84431059
Her run was ok at best.
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>>84431103
It had some good arcs.

The Circle was good and it's sad that we'll never see Alkyone and the rest ever again.
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>>84430400
The difference is that MCU producers exert a large control over the movies (which results in them being a bit bland).

Snyder's effect on MoS and BvS is *extremely* apparent. And since WB has made a point of saying they're giving the reins to the directors/writers, these movies will live and die based on how good their behind-the-camera talent is.

Suicide Squad already looks like an Ayer movie, for better or worse.
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>>84430400
>The MCU's writers and directors are all hacks if you look at their previous work

And? The movies are TV tier stuff
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I wonder what kind of movies people here enjoy. I've liked almost all the comic book movies as a comic book fan
as movies they have nearly all been legitimately awful to forgettable.

>inb4 Winter Solider was good
it was good for a comic book movie. it was an idiotic spy film by any standard.
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>>84431943
How do "television tier" movies continuously have better critical review, box office receipts, and audience reactions than your Capekino?

Is this the autistic "Normies can't into my complex DC films" meme?
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>>84432672

They don't watch movies beyond awful action garbage from the past 20-30 years. Calling Winter Soldier a political thriller is laughable. Comparing it to something like All the President's Men just shows how bad it is. As a comic book movie it was pretty good though. I kinda like Snyder's approach even if he fails, at least he's trying to something different and not making the same generic, forgettable crap every other studio/director is churning out.
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>>84432933
Snyder has been making the same generic, forgettable shit for 12 years.
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>>84433271
There's definitely nothing generic or forgettable about his movies.
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>>84433271
You can accuse Snyder of many things, but forgettable and generic are not part of those things
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>>84433711
"Forgettable" is pretty subjective though.

Not too many people seem to care about 300 or Sucker Punch these days. And then there was that owl movie too.
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>>84428697
Why do the women in the background look like NPCs from Oblivion?
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Zack Snyder...Good God...why WB? Why?
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>>84428246
You guys said that before BvS as well. Story credit was irrelevant! Based Terrio was going to fix everything!
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>>84427552
Why is anyone excited about this? It's literally the first Captain America movie which was boring and forgettable.
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>>84427869
There are no aliens on Earth, either.
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I want this to do well for the simple glimmer of hope to see either Cheetah or Giganta in a sequel
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Oh noes! I hope this movie won't suck.
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>>84434733
He did. The writing was dialogue was infinitely better than whatever Goyer gets paid to do.
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Discussing whether or not Geoff Johns actually did work on the film and the people claiming just because he got credit which means he did. Actually no. There's been plenty of instances in the past where someone's gotten script credit and barely anything or nothing at all of theirs ended up in the final script. Or someone who pretty much wrote the majority of the script didn't. John Rogers on Catwoman is a famous example of the former. There's others if you look.

The WGA process when it comes to actual credits is INCREDIBLY fucked up. I don't know where you got the idea that they're so good but the reality is... it's very possible and incredibly likely Geoff Johns barely contributed anything to the film.

I mean this in the politest way possible here... but you need to do some fucking research on this shit.

http://uproxx.com/movies/screenwriting-controversies/
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>>84436276
Wrong.

The whole point is that the WGA *heavily* favors writers and, in particular, the "original" writers. Geoff Johns is the CCO of DC and, I think, an executive producer on Wonder Woman itself. Ergo, he needs to have made substantial contributions to get a credit. If anything, he probably wrote significantly MORE than Heinberg.

There's really no way around that, and the WGA was pretty much created to stop people in Johns' position from getting/taking unearned credit via bullying or abuse of power.

If a producer, executive producer, or director gets a screenplay credit on a WGA-approved project, then you can probably bet they wrote a large portion of the script. Period.
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>>84427552
man i like Geoff but he can't write Wondie for shit, hell even his Batman is better than his wonder woman.
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Can we just kill the whole universe and start again from scratch?

The DCEU isn't worth saving if it's going to tear itself to shreds then be glued back together pretending that was always the plan
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>>84436981
could it work if instead of starting from zero they just upgrade the CW DCU to movies?
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>>84437036
Fuck no. Then all the retarded shit Arrow did would be canon. No waller, no BC, bootlegs heros all round.
Dont monkey paw this shit
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>>84436863
Only for original screenplays. WW is a non-original screenplay, as it's an adaptation with the WW comics as a source material. 33% is the minimum requirement for a screenplay by credit with no difference for executives.
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> geoff "i can't write wonder woman to save my life" johns
> wonder woman


and i'm supposed to be hype about this because...?
am i supposed to be hype about
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>>84436981
don't you have a disney movie to promote? fuck outta here, there is nothing wrong with this film.
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>>84433711
tell me who the main character of sucker punch was off the top of your head, and tell me their motivations, without googling it

you probably won't comply with this request but i want you to read these words and consider my point proven
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>>84437323
>He didn't read Darkseid War
lol
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>>84437335
No, because you assume that's the only reason why that's the notable thing about Sucker Punch. It isn't. The names and motivations of the characters are just the backdrop for the fight scenes - which is the actual point. And the fights weren't unforgettable.

So no, your point wasn't proven. But keep arguing anyway since 4chan posters are like Rorschach and can only think in extremes, therefore unable to comprehend that even a bad thing may have some positive aspects to it.
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>>84437440
that was the hardest dodge i've seen in months

was fun murdering you on a tibetan basket weaving board
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>>84437555
Just because Snyder made one bad movie doesn't mean that all of his movies are "generic" and "forgettable." It doesn't work that way.
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>>84428359
Wally or Kyle?
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>>84438078
>It doesn't work that way.

But this is 4chan, that's exactly how it works here.
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>>84437344
Johns has his shortcomings, but most people here hate him because muh Wally/Kyle/Infallible Batman
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>>84432933
>Calling Winter Soldier a political thriller is laughable.
People actually say Jessica Jones is a good psychological thriller, so what do you expect? Standards for thriller/horror shit nowadays are at an all-time low.
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>>84438321
both

plus the emotional spectrum is gay shit
Star Girl is an underdeveloped character and the Stars & Stripes series seemingly lacked heart
it was weirdly sycophantic
Aquaman was like a quarter as cool as PAD's run
and he wrote like 4 good Justice League issues in 5 years
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>>84432672
They're good by modern action movie standards, but that's not really high praise.
I mean, garbage like John Wick, Taken and Mad Max Fury Road is considered good action movies nowadays.
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>>84429247
>The WW costume looks better on a white statue than on Gal Gadot

Not even surprised.
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>>84430147
Go be irrelevant somewhere else, mad tripshit, your franchise is dead.
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>>84428621
Snyders fight scenes and action scenes are top notch
emulate away, just write a better story to complement them
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>>84439891
Batman scenes.
All of Superman's scenes are clusterfucks of bad CGI.
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>>84428621
>annoying slow-mo
God, I hate Snyder's awful shitty quirks.
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>>84439891
>Snyders fight scenes and action scenes are top notch
Fuck no. They all look like garbage. Batman fight is the only exception that didn't suck.
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>>84439896
>>84439911
Man of Steel scenes were great all around, especially the faor and nam-EK tag team fight in smallville

I get it you wanna hate snyder, no need to be delusional and say his action scenes are bad.
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>>84439921
Dude, this is absolutely retarded.
Awful CGI doesn't help.
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>>84439927
>Dude, this is absolutely retarded.
Nevermind, you just have shit taste
Probably gonna tell me Ironman 3 and Nolans bats movies were better in terms of action
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>>84439941
No, BvS had good action, Batman's scenes.
The problem is in Superman, the combination of awful CGI and excessively retarded chreography.
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>>84439921
They are. They are the worst thing about his movies. Fuck off.
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>>84439955
This videogame looks pretty good.
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>>84439959
>He thinks snyders movie "plots" arent the worst thing about his movies
Yea thats a case of shit taste alright


>>84439955
still not seeing a problem here, still better than anything not named Winter soldier thats come out
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>>84439927
you're retarded.
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>>84439975
Action scenes are somehow still worse than Snyder's "plots", motherfucker.
I still cringe when I think about the Rorschach and Night Owl vs Ozy in Watchmen.
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>>84439975
>still better than
Doesn't mean anything.
They are a fucking trainwreck where I can't even tell what's happening.
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>>84439927
>0:08
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>>84439993
then why did you save them to your computer?
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>>84440014
They are funny.
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>story by Zack Snyder
will there be a rape scene between WW and Steve?
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>>84438596
>Standards for thriller/horror shit nowadays are at an all-time low.

That's because so many of them are made each year and 99% of them are shit.
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>>84440062
That's 99% of fucking everything.
Doesn't meant you should worship shit like Babadook like critics seem to do.
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>>84428858
Yeah, ten years ago...
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>>84438078
>one bad movie

lol
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>>84439125
She does have the body and the charisma
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>>84440023
to this day I want to know the talks that lead to this being fine.
No one paused and went "wait, couldn't he have stop that from destroying buildings?"
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>>84427693

It's really amazing how WB just keeps returning to a man who fucked up what should have been a slam dunk movie and who's direction for the DCEU has been criticized by just about everyone.
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>>84429279

I really like the shield.

>>84429323

So she isn't dwarfed by Henry and Ben like Ezra Miller will be in the Justice League movie.
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>>84439927
No fuck you, man. I give Snyder a lot of shit but that Smallville fight was so fucking good.
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>>84428621
>nazis
>1918
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>>84432747

Marvel aims lower and achieves their goals (usually).

DC aims high but fucks a lot up. Often comes off as half baked or biting off more than they can chew. Also does not blend well with Zach Snyder's sensibilities.
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>>84439993
Someone please post the Thor vs Loki fight in the first Avengers movie.
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>>84439993
>can't see what's happening
Daredevil?
>>84444266
Yeah that fight was trash.
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>>84444266
...They fought? I only remember one of them yapping a bunch and the other getting grumpy and trapping himself.
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>>84441044
>No one paused and went "wait, couldn't he have stop that from destroying buildings?"
He was focused on Zod & wasn't willing to let his guard down not realizing the danger it posed, hence his looking back up horrified when it exploded unexpectedly.
That is the point, to give us a imperfect Superman who can't always do everything perfectly especially on his first fucking day.
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>>84427552
>Wanted to avoid the movie because of the kike
>Can't now that I know based Johns is involved
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>>84434770
But it looks far worse than First Avenger. At least that one had a 40s charm and comic bookey feel to it.
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>>84434770
Because only the setting is the same, the characters are entirely different with different mythos.
Plus we have a chance for Dc to piss on the MCU fucking up Thor by doing the gods right here.
>>84444499
A Comic bookey feel is not inherently a good thing campfag.
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>>84444499
It was also cliched and boring and the complete opposite of winter soldier

Comic bookey isnt alway a good thing
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>>84439991
>Action scenes are somehow still worse than Snyder's "plots", motherfucker.
This is how you know you have irreversible shit taste
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>>84427552
>new Wonder Woman details; Geoff Johns co-wrote script
Look what Geoff Johns write in Justice League
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>>84444418
The circle is now complete
Warner made a home run of shitness

>worst actress
>semi retired director
>worst producers
>and now...
One of the worst writers in comics
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>>84444418
Is that a shoop, or have I never noticed her wearing a shirt that says cock?
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Heinberg and Johns are buddies; they co-wrote that JLA story about the aftermath of Identity Crisis.

I find it odd that a guy whose day job is writing for ABC (Disney) would write a movie for Warner Brothers but what Geoff wants, Geoff gets.
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Oh good, so when the movie turns out shit people will have to deal with LE CEREAL KING XD memers defending it because Johns can do no wrong.

Or even better.

>if the movies is bad
>is all Zack Snyder's fault whatever

>if it's good
>OMG JOHNS SAVING DCEU ALL ALONE!!
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>story by Zack Snyder
It's over, bros.
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>>84446051
I'm ok with this
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>>84446051
He since read up on her. She wasbetter the second time around.
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>>84448052
Over for Marvel. :^)
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>>84448067
A dumb retarded Amazon, you ok with that?
Stupid and mediocre lines
yeah, I guess you are Gal Gadot fanatic, right?
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