How exactly do gods work in DC/Marvel?
Are they just beings with super powers from another planet or dimension that settled on earth?
How exactly does the afterlife work? Do you only end up in the afterlife that you believe in? Greek gods seem to be a thing in both Marvel and DC, with Tartarus/Hades being a thing for dead people. I remember reading a story where Hercules and Frank Cho end up in the greek afterlife after dying, but then fought their way out? Or something?
And seems like in DC they have both Odin AND Zeus hanging around doing stuff. Do they fight over whos the better god?
Hell with Aquaman/Namor around in DC/Marvel, what does Poseidondo all day? Does he interact with the ocean races?
What about gods of other religions? Does christian God fuck around with Zeus sometimes?
>>84411924
Gods who people don't worship anymore are super-beings with radical magitek. Gods people still worship are off-limits and must never, ever be depicted in leotards so as to not offend anyone.
>>84411924
Doing DC, cause their gods and similar are more interesting to me.
>Are they just beings with super powers from another planet or dimension that settled on earth?
Some are, sure, while others come about from human dreams and ideas (read Sandman), like Odin, Loki, the Greek pantheon etc, they lose power when people stop worshipping them, but still have varying degrees of personal power.
Others are just very powerful beings that take the name of gods, technically Superman could be this, if he wanted, I mean, who would call him out on it? Exactly the same circumstances of others who do it.
Others are empowered by the literal energy of God with a capital G himself, and have essentially spent their entire evolution under the influence of god energy. I am talking about, of course, Darkseid and the other New Gods.
There are also multiversal gods, which I see in three categories. The New Gods are one, Brainiac is another, and the hyperstory Monitors are the third.
All three groups have a 'true' being or form, which dictates the 'versions' or 'pieces' of each that enter individual universes. With the Monitors being slightly different in that their 'OG form' is kinda separate from the smaller parts now.
>How exactly does the afterlife work?
Depends on both a) what deity(s) you worship, and what kind of hold they have over your soul, and b) what you believe, deep, deep down in your soul that you deserve as a reward or punishment.
Those that go to Lucifers Hell are free to leave at any time, with a couple exceptions, it's just that they believe that they belong there and give power over themselves to Lucifer/Demons. The Lucifer series touched on this a bit. Heaven also exists for the opposite, even if you don't worship Him or even know about it. Martian Manhunter went there when he died, because he deserved a good rest.
Those that die serving the Asgard gods in battle would end up in Vallhalla, the Amazons usually go to places like Hades,
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>>84412449
Hades, the Elysian Fields or sometimes even Heaven.
All the afterlife areas function differently, some being permanent rest, while others are more akin to just a different dimension.
One thing though, unless a being has ownership to the extreme over someone who dies soul, then no matter where they go when they die, they will all be escorted there by Death. Pic related.
>And seems like in DC they have both Odin AND Zeus hanging around doing stuff. Do they fight over whos the better god?
Same character different story. Or different character same story. They're both just ideas dreamed up by people, brought to life in the Dreaming via humans unconscious thought, given power by worship. I believe they fused together at some part. Though I may be miss-remembering that.
>Hell with Aquaman/Namor around in DC/Marvel, what does Poseidondo all day? Does he interact with the ocean races?
In DC he generally hangs around Olympus, watching over the Amazons and Paradise Island. Very rarely will he interact with someone like Aquaman and the like, but yeah he does keep a watchful eye over the oceans and its people, especially Atlantis.
>What about gods of other religions? Does christian God fuck around with Zeus sometimes?
The Christian God, known as Yahweh by name in DC very, very rarely interferes at all, even with other gods.
He created everything, including the other gods. I would honestly be surprised if Zeus et al actually even know He exists.
What the Gods like Zeus, Darkseid etc are to an amoeba, Yahweh is to those Gods. Even Lucifer and Michael are above them by leagues and leagues.
One thing to remember though, in a Gods 'home'/dimension/place of power, they almost always have dominance over those who visit. Take Lucifer visiting the Japanese gods, in his own series. While he could easily smite them to dust and back, while inside their realm, he would have been powerless, and instead had to resort to trickery and mind prowess to best them. cont
>>84411924
as far as DC is concerned, see image.
>>84412596
to best them. This isn't a 100% thing though. They can be beat within their own place, it just takes a fuckton of an advantage/getting the god to go against their own rules and the like.
For example see the ending of the Sandman spoiler here,when Dream is forced into leaving his place of power, to fulfil a promise, leading to him being vulnerable to the Furies.
Gods do sometimes fight each other, Darkseid for example has battled the entire Greek pantheon solo and would have won except plot.
Take Shazam as well. Several different gods from different religions grant him power.
There is of course the Endless as well, who while aren't gods, are perhaps more powerful than most of them. They follow rules and stipulations, but aren't as restricted as regular gods, and have free reign to do what they will, within the bounds of their concepts.
The only being that really compares with Yahweh though, would likely be the Overmonitor. He's the OG Monitor, was around before Yahweh was even a thing and will probably be around long after He is gone.
They're basically null factors to each other though. They are doubtless aware of the other, but the Overmonitor doesn't seem to care much that Yahweh made a multiverse inside him, and Yayweh couldn't really give a fuck that the Overmonitor exists, aside from the comment that "he is infinite and eternal, but knows that he was indeed shaped by something 'external' ".
>>84411924
Why don't you just read the damn comics man
Fuck
>>84411924
>How exactly do gods work in DC/Marvel?
For Marvel, basically most Earth religions have some basis in actual deities but most are extremely weak and powerless. Thor and Odin are unusual exceptions in actually being decently strong.
The only reason real-world religions still exist in-comic at all is to maintain cultural links with reality. Because it would be too alien if you remove or replace real life religions entirely in the comics. Marvel is all about keeping links with the world outside your window.
Gods from real life religions are barely strong enough to matter in a Cosmic sense. And the real power lies in the higher beings like Death. And these higher beings spend all their time keeping the universe ticking. And the only real supreme deity is Marvel itself. Sometimes shown in-comic as Jack Kirby.
>>84412596
>I believe they fused together at some part. Though I may be miss-remembering that.
Fuck I just remembered. It was the Roman and Greek versions of Zeus, not Odin.
My bad.
>>84412722
>why havent you read the entirety of every comic ever involving gods in marvel and DC so you know everything about them? JEEZ.
>>84412865
I'm not that guy, but I am the guy who typed up the essay in this thread.
I've read maybe 5-10% of all comics DC has ever published and I can go on like that. It's not hard m8.
Fucks sake, you could probably wiki the majority of it.
>>84411924
Most bad people in dc go to hell unless theres a good reason to send them to a difrent afterlife
>>84412617
I still say it's stupid to have a shared dream each universe should have its own dream
>>84414099
I seen you post this about nine times now. What is so bad about it?
I think it works fine, I even prefer it this way.
>>84414172
and hell, we've even seen the endless in other universes before morrison made that book, so its not like its going against anything gaiman made up.
I think you need to stop crying to much.
>>84414202
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>>84412596
That's everything you need to know about DC OP
it's not that hard
>>84414202
The Endless were before Gaiman.
>>84412617
was KYWZZ and Krackl ever used for anything other than that one Flash race story?
>>84415373
No. Don't take the map too seriously. It's just some nice artwork and design Morrison put together to give an idea of how the DC cosmos is a vast and layered setting.
Trying to look too hard into it and it starts to fall apart and things start to not really make sense or line up.
>>84412697
>overmonitor
Ugh
>>84415314
Only Destiny and minor supproting characters from Sandman were from before Geiman. The Endless are his invention.
>>84415393
Knowing Morrison he's probably going to write a story about thinking about it to hard.
>>84411924
>Are they just beings with super powers from another planet or dimension that settled on earth?
Don't know about DC but this is how it is for Marvel
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>>84419323
From Thor Annual #10 btw
>>84411924
For DC i know that the christian god is the boss of the Spectre and mercy.
I think he intervenes in one of the Crisis.
