How were they allowed to get away with this in a kids show?
>>84391864
ruby looks like a dude and is voiced by a girl who is regularly mistaken for a dude
also, aliums
LESBIANS?
IN *MY* CHILD'S PROGRAMMING??
oh no, kissing
Are you really surprised, OP? When cartoons have been pushing the same bullshit since the 80s?
>>84391864
>>84391880
You mean that's not a red dude right there?
It's >the current year, op.
>>84391864
people kiss all the time in cartoons. why cant aliens?
>>84391895
>PROGRAMMING
Exactly
>>84391864
Uh, hello? Buddy, we are in 2016. *knock knock* Where are you from, sillyhead?
>>84391864
Do these two have a personality besides being gay?
Because no one watches Steven Universe.
>>84391864
This was a successfull BAIT
>>84391950
Only the red one.
>>84391955
Nobody but menchildren and womenchildren.
![instant-classics--tv[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gZZvVXq.jpg "instant-classics--tv[1].jpg")
>>84391912
You tell me
>>84391976
>implying anyone reads squirrelgirl
most people in the western world are indifferent to gays at this point
really i don't care if you wanna make a character gay then make it as you want
>>84391950
ruby has horrible self esteem, self worth issues, is violent, has a bad temper, holds grudges
sapphire stifles all feelings to appear more reasonable. she's logical but also passive aggressive.
red oni vs blue oni pretty much.
>>84391864
It wasn't on the lips.
That's it.
>>84391967
By personality you mean "slightly angry but who cares let's go back to fucki-I mean fusing"
>>84391912
Yeah Ruby, Jasper and Steven are the only male Crystal Gems
>>84391950
Barely
>>84392027
>ruby has horrible self esteem, self worth issues, is violent, has a bad temper, holds grudges
Are you seriously padding to make her seem like she has more personality than she actually does?
All that basically boils down to is "she's angry"
>>84392068
>poor self esteem = anger
but that's retarded anon
I get what you're saying, self worth issues = self esteem and violent+bad temper = angry, but what you're saying is wrong
>>84391864
Gay men = bad
Gay women = hot
Because diversity is good.
>>84392087
am I supposed to be seeing something?
am I colorblind?
>>84391864
> it begins
>>84392117
Nothing to see there.
>>84392082
>self worth issues = self esteem
And how much of this has she potrayed
>>84392143
You seem desperate to hate these characters. Is there something you want to tell us?
>>84392166
Answer the question m8
>>84392143
Plenty
In her first appearance she seems broken and lost and goes on about how she doesn't know what to do without Sapphire
In the flashback she's constantly doubting herself and her actions, particularly because she often doesn't think about what she does before she does it, so she wonders if she should regret her actions
Which is why Sapphire is a good fit for her, Ruby is constantly crippled by not knowing what to do and Sapphire is bored of constantly knowing what she will do
>>84391864
Well, because nobody cares about you or your delicate little feelings.
>>84392198
>In her first appearance she seems broken and lost and goes on about how she doesn't know what to do without Sapphire
That's basically more proof "gay" is her only personality
>In the flashback she's constantly doubting herself and her actions, particularly because she often doesn't think about what she does before she does it, so she wonders if she should regret her actions
And this is really fucking reaching
>>84392198
>Plenty
>2 scenes
>>84392000
People do, unfortunately.
>>84392027
you mixed up Ruby and Amethyst
>>84391864
Nothing wrong with giving your best friend a friendly kiss.
>>84392236
>That's basically more proof "gay" is her only personality
I thought her personality was just "angry"
>And this is really fucking reaching
Even if it was written poorly to the point where their personalities were hard to see, it wouldn't change the fact that they have personalities that were intended to be the way I described them
But here's a transcript of a narration directly from the episode
> Sapphire had known every moment of her life. How it would happen, and when. But because of Ruby's impulsive gesture, she suddenly jumped the track of fate, and everything from that instant on was wrong, and new.
>>84392247
>2 episodes
>out of 3 episode appearances
you're right, plenty isn't the best word to describe the amount of evidence compared to how many scenes there are in steven universe
but it's more than enough to adequately describe the characters
nice reaction image
>>84392305
>Ruby: What kind of Ruby am I supposed to be? Look at this! It's my fault you're stranded here. How am I gonna save you?
>Sapphire: You already did.
>Ruby: What!?
>>84392324
>you're right, plenty isn't the best word to describe the amount of evidence
Then don't fucking use it
>>84392342
>Then don't fucking use it
calm down
not everything has to be incredibly literal
here's where I'd call you autistic for not understanding subtleties and non-literal/abstract notions
but I won't because I'm above it
>>84392305
>I thought her personality was just "angry"
The OP was asking what their personality was besides being gay, and you didn't really help the case
>Even if it was written poorly to the point where their personalities were hard to see, it wouldn't change the fact that they have personalities that were intended to be the way I described them
Extremely one dimensional
>>84392143
>ruby telling sapphire who cares when asked about how she was
>the answer shows that rubies are expendable while sapphires are rare and more valuable
>ruby feels guilty about trapping sapphire on earth but doesn't seem to care she's stuck there herself
>>84392358
>The OP was asking what their personality was besides being gay
No he wasn't
>and you didn't really help the case
I didn't help your case because you're too thick to accept anything that is positive concerning steven universe
>Extremely one dimensional
Example right here
You're moving the goalposts because you've been shown that the characters have personalities that aren't just one thing so now you're criticizing the quality of the personality
You haven't even made an argument, you're just denying everything I'm saying because you don't have anything to back up your flimsy claim
>>84392353
>but I won't because I'm above it
>On /co/
>>84392425
If you don't want to be on /co/ anymore then the shortcut is Ctrl+W
>>84392419
>No he wasn't
>>84391950
>You're moving the goalposts because you've been shown that the characters have personalities that aren't just one thing
They are just one thing though
The self esteem argument just leads right back to the OP
>I didn't help your case because you're too thick to accept anything that is positive concerning steven universe
Ah here's the fucking problem.
Back to /sug/ faggot
>>84392358
Except even if she's one dimensional as fuck her personality is still "angry" if anything not "gay." She's not even really gay per se.
>>84392469
>>84391950 isn't the OP, or if he is, we wouldn't know
at the very least, the question wasn't posed in the Original Post
>>84391864
Uh how is Disney able to get away with all the hidden messages in their movies? oh right the same way as Steven Universe with money
>>84392469
Not that guy but even if she is angry and gay that's two things? Like Sapphire is calm and collected and gay?
Neither are major characters either. If you think say Pearl's personality is just gay then you're being willfully ignorant and refusing to see anything but a preconceived idea of what you want to see.
>>84392469
You still haven't actually produced an argument
You're still just insulting the show, being negative, and denying everything that's being said while pretending you're still in the right
>>84392471
Not him but in Hit the Diamond she showed next to no anger in the whole fucking episode, it was all fawning over Sapphire
That's seems really gay to me m8
>>84392490
>being negative
>>84392535
>/co/ is a hivemind
>4chan is a hivemind
I don't really feel like posting a reaction image, but that's dumb
>>84392509
She was more nervous and incompetent that episode than anything though.
She's only ever been attracted to one person so she could be space bisexual or something, who knows.
I think we both know why OP
>>84391864
Same way Disney and WB has gotten away with shit in their cartoons: they shit out money.
>>84392637
Does the Tumblr audience really bring in the ratings?
>>84391910
Yeah, okay. Show me one example, on the same level of SU's leafiest, of this type of shit from the 80's.
Fuck off.
>>84392655
This is in no way official but it seems like SU is hitting the right demographic
http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:26487
IE the one that has their parents pay for television instead of just downloading things off the internet
>>84392658
>leafiest
Lezfest
Damn autocorrect.
>>84392353
>here's where I'd call you autistic
>but I won't because I'm above it
I don't think you belong here
>>84391864
Why even complain about it, it's mostly prime time anyway.
>>84392658
>Yeah, okay. Show me one example, on the same level of SU's leafiest, of this type of shit from the 80's.
literally who cares. what are you, a neo-conservative prude? what website do you think you're on
>>84392068
>All that basically boils down to is "she's angry"
This is acceptable in my book considering that she's literally half of a main character and only briefly appears every couple dozen episodes.
>>84391864
Times are changing.
>>84391864
They didn't in Europe
>>84391864
no one complains when a japanese cartoon does it
>>84392117
You may be. I am legit slightly colorblind and that looks like multicolored dots to me. No shape or pattern.
>>84391895
>WIFE'S CHILD'S
ftfy
>>84392943
Course, it could be one of the ones that actually don't have a discernible pattern that they throw in as a control.
>>84391864
FAGGOTS?
IN *MY* CHILD'S PROGRAMMING??
>>84391864
Do gems even have genders?
Because SU needed an edge to make it seem more progressive and by that merit deep.
In the end SU is basically a few lazy tropes and ideas stolen from some westernly successful anime and than filtered through a CalArts hamfisted lens.
>>84393015
>CalArts
Name one person who went to CalArts who works/worked on SU, spoiler:You cant
>>84392874
You seem to be the one overly-concerned. I want simply challenging that anon's bullshit claim. Stay triggered.
There's a reason the SU fanbase is hated more than AT's. Kek
>>84393027
It's just a shorthand for the Modern American animation style that is hypersimplistic and blobby.
>>84392874
>Anon makes claim
>Other anon challenges it
>"OMG WHOOOOO CARES?!!! it's CURRENT YEAR! What are you, a CONSERVATIVE??!"
And I thought the /co/=Tumblr allegations were just bull.
Are we going to have the same old fucking thread every day now, /co/?
>>84392874
Okay, yeah, now I see why SUfags are hated so much.
>>84393114
>>84393114
Are you faggots gonna continue to be triggered and baited? That's the real question.
>>84392658
Did you never watch Captain Planet?
That entire show was more hamfisted about it's barely thought-out political position than SU could hope to be.
>>84392930
We wouldn't want the Muslims to be offended.
>>84393821
This thread isn't about politics in cartoons. Don't try to stretch it.
>>84391864
because it's 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXYmFqEkCGQ
>>84392068
>All that basically boils down to is "she's angry"
Now hold on a fucking minute I'm calling bullshit.
There is a large difference between "angry" and "angry because of another personality trait".
The latter is definitely a more dimensional characterization than the former.
Reminder that Sailor Moon had two lesbian characters and CN aired it back in the 90's.
>inb4 but the dub said they were cousins so that one scene were the were basically shown fucking doesn't count
>>84391864
What, two characters kissing? That's not particularly unusual. Though it's true that generally only parents in cartoons do get to be lovey-dovey and characters from the actual main ensemble generally suffer from eternal "will-they-won't-they" purgatories, I guess.
>>84394273
BUT
THEY'RE
BOTH
GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRLS
they're an alien species where everyone is female so they're gay by default
>>84394306
Like how Namekians are permavirgins by default since they are all male and reproduce asexually.
Also they have strange powers, can regenerate from serious injury and are able to fuse together to increase their strength.
>>84394421
Can't Rebecca Sugar do anything original?
>>84394443
Taking existing things and interpreting them in different ways is kind of how all of art has worked forever.
First, since gay marriage is nationally legal, shouldn't that basically end the taboo of gay folks in children's programming? People arguing against it might as well be arguing that you shouldn't show black people.
Second, does the Bible actually say anything specifically about lesbos? I know there's the line about men shouldn't bang men as they would a woman blah blah and that God hates sex in the butt, but nothing about clam kissing.
>>84392000
I have 2 IRL friends who do.
>>84394283
No silly they are rocks
>>84394501
An even holier book has some strong opinions on gays
>>84394443
No more so then anyone else, heck even Shakespeare used stories that had already been around.
>>84394501
Ha no, that would require acknowledging women as more than a cock sleeve. Though there is that story of Naomi and Ruth that everyone likes to say is about lesbians. It's one of the few bible stories I like.
>>84394561
Jew the third has the same stories as Jew the second, all sad attempts to be like OG Jew
GIRLS KISSING GIRLS
BOYS KISSING BOYS
AND YOU KNOW WHAT
WE'RE ALL GONNA LIKE IT
>>84391864
Kids shows have shown romance since kids shows started, what the fuck are you talking about.
>>84394501
The Bible is pretty vague about gay shit and doesn't spend much time on it, and there is literally nothing about abortion. In fact, the earliest adherents tended to view drinking herbs to induce an abortion as fine until "the Quickening" when the baby actually started to move since it wasn't even "ensouled" until then. Meanwhile 80% of the stuff that's actually in the Bible gets ignored by most adherents. It's weird what people focus on and often seems to have not much to do with the books themselves.
>>84391864
>show pretend to be normal at start
>getting more deviant each episode
>use LGBT tumblr shield
>studio cant say no because it will be sexist and anti-lgbt
>>84394675
The Bible also tells you to bludgeon people to death with rocks for all sorts of stupid shit but no one complains when we don't do that stuff either.
Its pretty much just a convenient excuse to feel superior to people who don't live life the way you say they should.
>>84394748
This post looks suspiciously like work on a Sunday, anon...
>>84394769
I'll just pay to get a special dispensation for posting, or post a lot and then repent later.
>>84391864
Becuase the show is gay
I think what OP was referring to is that she is obviously sucking a tear from off her face. Its tear sucking fetish bait.
Sugar or someone else on the crew actually talks with CN about this sort of stuff, probably way in advanced, and figure out what they are and aren't willing to put on the air. Ruby is also pretty butch so if some concerned parent wanted to they could get away with telling their kids she's actually a guy.
ITS NOT A CHILDREN'S CARTOON!!
IT HAS THE LEEPEST DORE!!!!
REEEE NORMALFAGS GET OUT!!!!
>>84394459
then how did art begin
>>84391864
Because Gems aren't human. They're freaks whose entire filthy race should be purged from the universe
>>84395182
They're modelled after females, a channel surfer with no experience with the show would take them as female at faec value.
It doesn't matter what Rebecca Sugar says, this show is full of lesbians.
>>84395201
How long until Steven gets a sex change and becomes lesbians with Connie?
>>84395182
That's just an excuse Tumblr and others use to project their "muh transgender" agenda onto them
>>84395263
Why get a sex change when you could just shapeshift into a girl.
>>84395263
They become Stevonnie forever
>>84395281
Behold, anon finally discovers the point.
>>84395293
Don't be a cheeky cunt, Steven's shapeshifting is temporary.
>>84392068
Did you miss all the times she offhandedly mentions that she has no value?
>>84395286
And then Stevonnie turns to a lich after Connie dies.
>>84392027
>horrible self esteem, self worth issues,
>>84395531
But it's true that Ruby used to treat herself as completely expendable and of inferior value to other gems.
>their romance was an accident
>>84395558
As opposed to an arranged marriage?
>>84391864
What? Love?
>>84392027
>sapphire stifles all feelings to appear more reasonable
This is just another way of saying "She doesn't have one"
>>84393027
Joe Johnston: Boarder (possibly stopping after Ian leaves), Supervising Director (Joe & Jeff and Lamar & Katie episodes starting late season 2), Story Writer (possibly starting season 4)
Jeff Liu: Storyboard Artist, Songwriter
Katie Mitroff: various odd jobs (season 1A), boarder (starting season 1B)
Colin Howard: Character Designer, Storyboard Artist (after Ian leaves)
Elle Michalka: Background Painter (up to Lars and the Cool kids, infrequently in season 2), 2nd Art Director (starting Steven's Lion [12th episode produced] to early season 2)
Amanda Winterstein: Background Painter
Jasmin Lai: Background Painter (season 1 starting with Cheeseburger Backpack), 3rd art director (starting season 2)
Ricky Cometa: various odd jobs (season 1), Background Painter (starting season 2)
Tiffany Ford: Color Stylist (season 1)
>>84395615
>Joe Johnston
>Jeff Liu
>best boarders went to CalArts
well what do you know
how can people be for gay marriage on this site ?
4chan's always been a conservative site
if you want leftism go to reddit
GEM MIXING IS WRONG!
>>84393254
Don't lump us with that fag.
>>84393060
The hatedom is still worse.
>>84395660
There's a reason why /co/ has a reputation for being called /co/mblr
Hell someone in this very thread said they weren't gonna call someone an autist because they were "Above it"
That just screams of Tumblr to me
>>84394227
>This thread isn't about politics in cartoons.
You could have fooled me.
>>84395660
>>84395695
>4chan's always been a conservative site
Wow, newfags AND /pol/lacks?
I can't believe someone can be both these things at the same time.
![be7a1b90398d6137ba7d29f3f0a609ff[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kOKO8GB.jpg "be7a1b90398d6137ba7d29f3f0a609ff[1].jpg")
>draw a korean
>call it a gem
why is this allowed?
>>84391864
Is it necessarily a bad thing?
>>84395720
Kid KO is white though
>>84395660
>implying websites are inherently political
>implying being conservative means being against equal marriage rights
>implying political thought is a simple left-right spectrum
4chan may not be conservative but it certainly is retarded
>>84395660
>4chan's always been a conservative site
Haha, what?
>>84395714
>I can't believe someone can be both these things at the same time.
I don't think it's physically possible m8
>>84395714
>implying 4chan was ever liberal
Even when people opposed Bush, they never supported Democrats. Or Obama.
>>84395714
but 4chan's always been conservative
4chan is a place for free speech political incorrectness and conservatives have always been pro free speech and politically incorrect
>>84395737
>implying political thought is a simple left-right spectrum
It is nowadays though. Centrism is dead and buried. Just look at the people running for president of the US or everything that's happening in Europe right now.
Pick a side or get caught in the crossfire.
>>84395778
Is that why conservatives pushed for censoring and banning disliked media in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's?
>>84395778
>>84395761
4chan is just a bunch of contrarians and nothing else.
>>84395821
>implying you should encourage it
The nice thing about living in a free country is you don't have to commit your life to an idealology. I'm pro gay marriage, pro guns, pro free speech, pro immigration, pro marijuana legalization, and pro capitalism. What side am I on?
>>84395825
but that wasn't censoring that was silencing people that were opposed to real freedom of speech
>>84395848
>pro immigration
you're on the wrong side.
>>84395842
Thry are never contrarians in support of Liberals.
>>84395778
4chan is inherently liberal, even though it's currently aligned to the right. One of the few consistent themes with the site is tearing down shit that's perceived as too powerful. Right now liberal media and political correctness happen to be the big targets, hence we're skewed to the right. If something like the church or some big business ended up in our crosshairs, we'd probably shift back to the left.
>>84395866
Man I just think people should do what they want, and if that includes going to another country, why not? I also honk they need to learn the language and make efforts at assimilating though.
>>84395848
i'd say social democrat with libertarian sympathies
>>84395878
They should with proper documentation.
>>84395863
Explain what you mean by 'real freedom of speech', because I suspect it's just 'things I agree with'
>>84395892
Also agreed, but the process of getting documentation needs to be streamlined and made easier.
>>84395892
Yep, but right now documentation needs to be easier and quicker to obtain.
>>84395910
Knowing a vital amount of English and about what the countries beliefs,laws and how it was made usually are the prereqs
>>84395076
using berries to draw imitations of boobies and buffalo.
>>84395910
>>84395921
Thought shitty Internet ate my post
>>84395878
I don't think we have the time to deal with refugees right now, I mean we're the ones bombing them so we could do some aid projects to rebuild homes,but letting them immigrate is eh.
>the one prominent homosexual couple in a children's cartoon are sex-hungry fucks who flirt and neck each other at any given moment
KEK
>>84395933
Never mentioned refugees, m8. But if we're talking about the United States, there's tons of shitholes that could use the flesh blood and revitalization that comes with immigrants. Look at Hmong and Burmese refugees in the Midwest, or even Dearborn.
Possibly by threatening to call anyone who opposes them things like misogynists and bigots and so forth. I mean, how dare people not want their children subjected to subliminal political and social manipulation.
>>84391910
They're both girls. Though to be fair the "Gems" as they are called in Steven Universe are not Human, they are aliens who are all anatomically female.
>>84395778
the view that someone is purely politically incorrect is laughable. what that essentially means is that they will always be on the unpopular side. their conviction is "if people think this is right then it's wrong"
as a whole though, i think that's 4chans politics in a nutshell. In reality, most of the people here aren't affected by politics (white middle class) so they pick whatever side is the most entertaining for them and that will always be on the alt side. it's why 4chan was liberal during the bush years and conservative during the obama years.
>>84395984
>I mean, how dare people not want their children subjected to subliminal political and social manipulation.
What are you talking about?
>>84395984
> Though to be fair the "Gems" as they are called in Steven Universe are not Human, they are aliens who are all anatomically female.
see >>84395201
>>84395984
What the fuck are you talking about, you psychopath? How is this political at all?
>>84395933
It's not just us bombing them, the refugees are people who are constantly attacked by ISIS. Just a couple of weekends ago ISIS killed over three hundred Muslims with just two attacks, even trying to blow up the Mohammed Mosque in Medina.
You can't really blame them for wanting to leave a war zone.
The US is huge and has tons of resources, we are much better equipped to handle refugees than fucking Sweden or whatever.
>>84396028
Are you enjoying all the homosexuals being shoehorned into children's cartoons?
>>84396028
>>84395998
The retarded tripfag is being retarded and saying that seeing girls kiss will force people to either become gay or be tolerant of gays.
He saw people on /pol/ get mad at those things so surely that'll make him look cool here.
>>84395660
>this is the same underaged fucktard that said rightwing politicians have never tried to ban video games before
This thread took a drastic turn
>>84395984
>they are aliens who are all anatomically female.
No, they appear female, they don't have human anatomy.
>>84396041
What's wrong with homosexuals being cartoons?
>>84396050
but they haven't
it's always been the socialists (see hillary clinton)
>>84396041
Yeah.
>>84396067
>hillary clinton
>socialist
>>84396067
http://www.4chan.org/rules
>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
>>84396056
I miss when we were just invaded by people from /v/ who wanted to let off steam. Now we have to deal with reject /pol/sters who aren't nearly as funny or self-aware.
>>84396087
No no anon! Those were obviously cousins! Very, very close cousins!
>>84395660
This whole post is fucking retarded but as an oldfag I'd say tendencies towards libertarianism which is generally for gay marriage has existed here for a long while my prepubescent friend.
>>84396088
but she's pro censorship and all socialists are pro censorship
>>84396041
Gay people exist, tripfag. It shouldn't be shocking cartoons include them.
>>84396107In America.
>>84396087
The problem with them wasn't so much that they were lesbians so much as the fact they were absolute cunts who people only worshipped for looking pretty.
>>84396107
Do you know what socialism is? Or maybe how logic works?
>>84396121
>absolute cunts
I'm sorry you can't handle being around competent people.
>>84395984
that's why i don't have my wife's daughter watch any sort of media cus i don't want her to be brainwashed by the leftist agenda
i keep her away from any sort of media nowadays just to be safe. movies, books, comics, radio. i also have her homeschooled and monitor her friends to make sure they are wiling to accept us and our lifestyle
this gives us more time to work on our hobbies and special excercising together which i think is better for both of us even if it isn't strictly pc
>>84391864
>Not demanding gay representation since the day you were born
What is wrong with you?
>>84396041
I don't give a shit, tripscum. I don't care that birds and fish and other things that exist appear in cartoons, either.
>>84396129
>hurr durrr look at the defination
>forget nazi germany the USSR chile, Afghanistan, the democrats, nicaragua, all sjws and the EU
>>84391864
they are inorganic aliens with one sex. what's the problem?
>>84396087
>>84396121
>>84396134
Uranus made a lot of bad decisions typically involving putting others in harms way or trying to take their responsibilities onto herself. Neptune was basically her enabler, assuring her she was doing the right thing and she was not an awful person despite constantly being proven wrong.
>>84396164
How is having gays in a show demanding gay representation.
>>84396164
>the gems have no gender
>two of the gems are gay
>it_just_dont_add_up.png
>>84391864
MOMS
>>84396254
isn't love between gems an uncommon concept in itself?
Dosen't that mean it's just as weird to them as gay is to us?
>>84391950
The red one does.
The blue one is basicly just lesbian romance.
>>84394513
Kill them both
Bonus points for a gladiatorial match
>>84396275
I think you mixed them up there, champ.
>>84396187
>Hillary likes censorship
>Socialists like censorship
>Hillary is a socialist
>Hitler likes dogs
>Most people like dogs
>Most people are Hitler
And this is ignoring the fact you seem to think that leftists have a monopoly on censorship, and also that the nazis were leftists.
>>84396107
The right is also pro censorship, just the things you care about less.
Up until you millennials grew up, all the right wanted to do was shut people up.
>>84396041
Heterosexuals have being shoehorned everywhere for as long as cartoons have existed, and there are still tons of cartons with hets kissing and stuff. Are you trying to say that a same-sex couple kissing is somehow more extreme or sexual than an opposite-sex couple kissing? How so?
>>84396383
>Shoehorned
having the norm displayed is hardly 'shoehorning'.
It's like saying nature is shoehorning instincts everyday.
>>84391864
Not on the lips=not romantic
>>84392117
>>84392943
>>84392957
It's a silhouette of the Happy Merchant meme.
>>84396431
Homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality in modern society, yet look at the modern cartoons - heteros everywhere, gay and bi people still rare. Interracial couples used to be abnormal as well, but nowadays nobody freaks out when they kiss on-screen. Why should we freak out at the same-sex couples?
>>84396543
>Homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality in modern society
Yet it's really not.
And that's why it's not as normal.
Also there's no need to, there shouldn't be.
>>84395660
4chan was mostly apolitical. If you believe a website made up of weeaboos and sexual deviants was conservative, you're a fucking retard.
>gay people shouldn't be in media because it hurts my feelings
>>84391976
>behaving like being a dysfunctional adult is a good thing
I want tumblr to stop
>>84396624
>having the self-awareness of a goldfish
>>84395878
willingness to assimilate would still be an issue if you consider the sheer number of people who'd rather live in a wealthier nation.
>>84396589
We should go back to that; a bunch of sick fucks being sick fucks.
>>84394501
>Second, does the Bible actually say anything specifically about lesbos? I know there's the line about men shouldn't bang men as they would a woman blah blah and that God hates sex in the butt, but nothing about clam kissing.
It's all the same as far as Biblical sexual morality is concerned. There is only ONE way to do it, "monogamous man+woman in the confines of lifelong Marriage with the natural and inherent outcome of childbearing left completely unhindered by any choice of the couple."
Anything that doesn't match that doesn't fly. Condoms, gays, swingers, fapping, all sinful.
>>84396653
Also the brain drain on 3rd world nations is damaging to them.
How do pro-immigration people think the world will get better if anyone intelligent leaves their country to one that's already developed?
>>84395866
Are you also pro colonialism? That's the only way you're going to end bridge the gap between the first and third world at this rate.
>>84394769
You do realize "don't work on Sunday" was God mandating "guys, take a fucking break once in a while for your own benefit" rather than "if you work every day of the week I shall smite you" right?
>>84396744
>Are you also pro colonialism?
No I'm pro realist.
>>84396771
Oh sorry man, wrong poster.
>>84396795
No I'm >>84395866 and >>84396571
>>84396720
o boy time to post this
>>84396811
was meant for >>84395878, put the person he was replying to in instead.
>>84394748
OT law regarding the consequence of sin.
In the light of the NT, those old punishment laws were to establish "Sin=Death." But a bunch of desert nomads will understand physical death far better in the early days of their theology better than if you jumped straight into metaphysical eschatologies. You don't explain convection to a 5 year old when you give them hot cocoa. You say "It's hot and will burn you."
>>84396106
I didn't realize libertarians supported the federal government forcing states to endorse gay marriage despite their population rejecting it.
Sounds like the Muh Small Government people are just federal shills.
>>84396865
lack of government interference in marriage laws, I guess would be the justification. (not him)
>>84396720
awww you think the Bible actually means something and isn't just a neat text written by a series of random people over thousands and thousands of years
that's cute
>>84396912
State government I meant not Federal
>>84396715
>degenerates trying to rewrite history
we were always alt right you idiots
lurk moar on /pol/
>>84396919
>hurr the bible means nothing
Guess that's why Christianity dominated Europe for 1400 years and is still one of the largest religions in the world right?
>>84396979
So Islam is right then?
>>84396821
Take that to some Jew they're the ones who need to defend that since they reject the new covenant.
>People still complain that Ruby & Sapphire's characters are just "we're gay"
C'mon, they're clearly TWO things, gay and an actual, albeit super simple, character type.
Garnet literally puts it best in that one databook:
>"Ruby is hot, Sapphire is cool, I'm electric."
Ruby's an angry hothead, sapphire's an autist, and garnet is a mary sue.
>>84396821
How many of those are still "man+woman" though?
Also, how many of those got retconned as "God permitted it for a time because there was practical nescessity for multiple wives to 'go forth and multiply' and the people he spent most of his time chatting with were dicks who would whine about not getting enough tail like kids told they can't have a cookie?"
>>84396979
I mean the spread and prosperity of a religion literally have nothing to do with its truth
also Biblical Literalism has very little to do with the European world created by the Catholic church, if anything it was Martin Luther returning to Biblical Literalism that destroyed that world
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this thread?
>>84397000
Islam certainly means something and can't be thought of as nothing by millennial ex Christian faggots.
It's also an abrahamic religion. To Muslims the Jews and Christians are people of the book and should be protected. To Catholics at least they acknowledge that Islam worships the same God the Father but are in error regarding the Son.
TL;DR
You can't just argue billion strong religions are "nothing"
>>84396919
It's basic exegesis shithead. It has a set concept of the purpose of sex. Everything beyond that set concept is bad.
That's it.
>>84397075
Obviously religions aren't nothing they're the building blocks of society, and honestly I'd rather you be the dominant folks than that SJW cult.
It's fine if gay couples aren't forced in to show how the cartoon is "diverse". If the traits of the characters are "we're gay" then yeah I think there's a problem there.
>>84397075
I mean there is a difference between thinking their religion is meaningless and think that their texts are just stories written by men and shouldn't be taken as literal word of God.
I have nothing against any religion but I think they are making a mistake in the way they imagine God, and then they continue this mistake and apply it to other concepts
>>84397149
Steven Universe central premise is gay, so it's not forced diversity unless the entire point of the show was diversity.
>>84397198
>Steven Universe central premise is gay
please stop.
>>84392624
>>84392087
fuck off /pol/
>>84391864
Kissing isn't a taboo. And neither is gay couples. Yeah it was a bit ham fisted but not inappropriate
>>84397184
Yeah but thinking they're making a mistake is the same as religion is a mistake, interpreting it as literal word of god is exactly what religion is all about.
I do agree tho.
>>84397184
>think that their texts are just stories written by men and shouldn't be taken as literal word of God
Depending on what you think "literal Word of God" means, the Bible really isn't that while also being that at the same time.
It's not like "God told me exactly what to write like I'm his secretary." There are certainly thing IN THERE that fits the bill (10 Commandments and the Prophets to an extent) but when one says "divine inspiration," they mean the content of the overall message. Divine Inspiration is the "slow and steady wins the race" to the actual text's "Tortoise and the Hare." Divine inspiration in those "if guy does X, chuck stones at him" OT laws is "sin kills" which as the eschatology developed, became apparent that the stoning bits where to establish mortality as a consequence.
Yes it could've been just straight forward, but you don't teach a 5 yo kid convection when explaining that cocoa is hot and will burn your tongue.
>>84397149
Is Clarence the only cartoon to casually pull off gay without destroying the characters?
