I don't know, guys, season 5 is starting to sound good.
>Gritty tone
>Street-level stories
>New supporting cast
>More focus on vigilantism and its impacts on society
>Less focus on relationships
>Flashback storyline is how Oliver became a mobster in Russia
>Promising the most violent oner in network television history
>Oliver and Felicity getting back together right away, sparing us pointless, mind-numbing "will they, won't they"
There's still hope.Right?...
Got any sources for it being gritty, street level focused?
>Flashback storyline is how Oliver became a mobster in Russia
Sounds great
>Promising the most violent oner in network television history
?
>>84374471
>>Less focus on relationships
lol
>>Oliver and Felicity getting back together right away
How is this in any way a good thing
>There's still hope.
You are an idiot and deserve everything you get.
>>84374471
>Arrowcucks STILL think this show can redeem itself
>More grimdark bullshit
Fuck you for believing the creators.
>>84374471
>>84374522
"Arrow" was at its best when it was grimdark, though.
When they tried to make it light and fun like "The Flash" we got season 4.
>>84374471
>There's still hope.
the only way to save arrow is to confirm OllieXThea.
She's the best girl left. They match. Nothing he's ever said to felicity has been as loving as the things he's said to speedy.
>>84374662
George, pls
>>84374574
When they tried to make it dark and gritty again, we got season 3.
Fuck off. Tone is not the problem, idiot showrunner and writers are the problem and there's no way they're leaving.
>>84374880
>Season 3
>dark and gritty
Maybe for the fist 9 episodes. Coincidentally, the best ones that season.
Did Tommy show up in season 4?
>>84376331
Yeah in flashbacks
>>84375219
Which were still all garbage.
>>84376820
yeah not enough shipping haha
>>84377103
>you don't like my shit show, you must like shipping
You're an unbelievable idiot. No wonder you believe next season will be good.
>>84374471
I'll stick to the comics thanks
This show will never ever be good again until they fire the person that is pushing Felicity so hard.
Season 2 was where it peaked and season 2 was pure comic book madness. Season 4 was promising but then it fell off the rails because they decided to push Felicity harder than fucking ever. I wouldn't be surprised if they were going back to the gritty tone because people were shitting on season 4 and instead of blaming Felicity and the soap opera bullshit she brings they decided to blame the thing fans had been begging for since day one and the thing that was proven with the Flash.
>>84377174
yeah haha you're so witty
>>84377514
Fuck off back to /tv/ already.
>>84377571
lol good one lad. fuck off back to /boardidon'tlike/ since you're no true s/co/tsman ;) hahahaha
>>84377600
>LOOK MOM I'M SHITPOSTING XD
Seriously, go back to /tv/. There you can roam with a bunch of similar to you degenerates.
>>84374471
>Oliver and Felicity getting back together right away
This already sounds bad
>>84377656
go back to /v/ you retard you don't even like comics or cartoons.
>>84377689
>more shitposting
I'm amazed you're not banned yet. I guess everything I've heard about /co/ mods was true.
>>84377571
>>84377656
He's going to keep going back and forth with you until he gets the last word in, you enormous tremendous fucking faggot.
I'm a season behind on Arrow so can somebody explain exactly what Felicity has been doing, because, I am laughing at how hard and fast everyone has soured on her
>>84377738
You got so angry someone disagreed with you that you started flinging insults. But somehow I'm shit posting? You're a fucking pathetic idiot. There wasn't enough shipping in the first part of season three. Get over yourself.
>>84377779
I know, but I just can't help myself.
>>84374471
as long as Felicity is still around Arrow will continue to suck because the writer's treat her as the main character and Ollie as the sidekick
>>84374471
Genocide his team and have him work alone. I don't know why the team exists the in the first place. Kill Flash's team too while we're at it. Their only partners should be each other.
>>84377803
She left Oliver for lying to her even though she lied to Oliver about still working with the team and told multiple people that you have to lie to your love ones sometimes.
Dropped a nuke on an innocent town
Got paralyzed and was able to walk again because DC said no to her being Oracle.
Just an all around bitch making stupid remarks about Olivier.
>>84374471
>>Promising the most violent oner in network television history
I'm most intrigued by this because what exactly what are they going to have in the fight that makes it "brutal"?
Is my man Diggle coming back at some point? And I agree with the other posters that say that the writers really need to ease up on pushing Felicity down the viewers' throats. She was a big reason why Season 4 was terrible.
>>84374502
Chris Evans losing his shit with keks will never get old.
>>84374531
>Felicity in the back supervising that everything goes according to her master plan.
>>84374471
>Oliver and Felicity getting back together right away, sparing us pointless, mind-numbing "will they, won't they"
>Robber decides to shoot me in the face right away, sparing me pointless, mind-numbing "will he, won't he"
You can't be serious
>>84377877
Not only that, she walked out on him because he literally lied to protect his son. She gets the whole "lies are worse than cold blooded murder" excuse from her mom, who she also lies to
The fact that they're both regular characters for season 5 proves that Arrow really did die on that cliff. Good riddance.
>>84374531
2 and 4 are very much worth my peenus though...
I haven't seen Arrow yet but honestly it seems like it's not that great.
I just finished watching The Flash , which I thought was really good, especially how they're doing Flashpoint at the start of season 3.
Is Arrow worth watching though?
>>84379853
>Someone watched Flash without Arrow
Teach us your ways and free us from this curse.
>>84379853
No. In retrospect, even the best moments of Arrow don't hold a candle against the worst parts. You can happily skip it without suffering much confusion from the crossover episodes
>>84374471
They seem to be slightly retooling all of the CW shows for the new seasons so yeah it has a chance if they really do stop pandering to tumblr so much. I can't think of a city in DC where it has multiple heroes who are rivals and sometimes enemies based on their methods, thats more of a Marvel thing so it will be cool to see how they approach it with like seven street level heroes having a mini civil war.
>>84374502
Replace "oner" with "opener."
Probably either a scene happening in Russia or one of the vigilantes going vigilante
>>84379677
Like seriously who wrote that shit. Lies happen all the time. You are lying just by being a hacker for Olivier. Whoever thought this was a good idea needs to go back to school.
They could show Thea full-frontal nude and it still wouldn't be enough for me to come back to the show.
>>84377872
Stop.
>>84380129
>if they really do stop pandering to tumblr so much.
They hate her too i think,the problem is twitter-olishitters.
>>84380429
Its it twitter thats the problem. Theres still a few left but they are mostly quiet or post on both sites
I'll watch the Cody Rhodes episode and that's it
>>84374471
>I don't know, guys, season 5 is starting to sound good.
Replace that 5 with a 4 and you got what we had last year
>>84374531
Ttt-thats not really them....right?!?
As long as there's a large focus on Felicity I'll be happy, she's the only thing that's keeping this show afloat.
I'm hyped af
>>84381425
Those are just production assistants.
The new characters.
ADRIAN CHASE / VIGILANTE (Josh Segarra)
>Star City's new District Attorney who joins forces with Mayor Oliver Queen to take on organized crime, aspiring to clean up the streets by using the legal system. Behind his irrepressibly charming facade, Chase is a man on a mission, out to avenge a tragic and violent loss from his own years prior, and this drives him into increasingly extreme methods. As he spirals further into violence, Chase proves himself to be a chilling adversary, who might just as easily shake your hand as your best friend or break your neck as your worst enemy — and you never know which one is coming. Either way, he’s more than capable of having a good time as he does it.
AKA The New Laurel
JACK WHEELER / WILD DOG (Rick Gonzalez)
>An ex-Marine turned vigilante operating in Star City, whose reckless and cocksure nature prompts the Green Arrow to take him under his wing. Wheeler proves himself to be an unpredictable, but reliable ally.
AKA The New Diggle
Ded show desu senpai
EVELYN SHARP / ARTEMIS (Madison McLaughlin)
>One year after masquerading as the Black Canary to pursue vengeance against Damien Darhk for the death of her parents, Evelyn resurfaces determined to forging her own identity as Artemis, and proves herself to possess great resolve and resourcefulness despite Oliver's continuous efforts to discourage her from a life of vigilantism.
AKA The New Thea
SAM MALONE (Tyler Ritter)
>An ambitious detective newly-transferred to the Star City Police Department following Captain Lance's departure from the squad.
AKA The New Lance
SUSAN LEWIS (Carly Pope)
>A journalist from nearby Coast City who comes to Star City looking to make a name for herself by targeting Oliver Queen for a big story.
AKA... I don't know, the New Felicity?
TOBIAS CHURCH (Chad L. Coleman)
>A ruthless crime lord who sets out to fill the sizable void left by Damien Darhk and H.I.V.E., uniting Star City's criminal enterprises under his command. Church is an apex predator who cuts his way through the shadows by taking down the biggest threat first, and quickly sets his sights on newly-appointed Mayor Oliver Queen.
AKA The Real Brick
>>84378621
>>84381789
Cody Rhodes is also going to play a villain
>>84381983
He's just a one-off.
>>84381983
Hows this going to work? Is he going to play an obscure green arrow villain
>>84374471
No thank you, I won't be fooled again.
I hope they make his costume greener and maybe change the boots?
>>84374471
>S3 sounded good
>S4 sounded good
>S5 sounds good.
We know how this will go down.
>>84383124
S3 was good until the second half
S4 had to much felicity airtime
This season is finally giving people what they actually wanted instead of just generic hype
>>84383200
No, people wanted a more lighter themed and more comicy Arrow show closer to how the Flash does things, and that's what they gave us.
But I guess you changed your mind about what you wanted to suit your need to promote the show. The show could be promising a season about talking ducks and you'd be using the same arguments to defend the show.
>>84383285
Shut the fuck up. My fault for thinking i could have a discussion with someone on /co/
>>84383328
Sounds like you just can't have a discussion with anyone. You want to have a discussion you can start by saying things that are actually correct and not just stuff you thought of to convince yourself next season will be good despite the obvious.
>>84374531
holy fuck who hired Pj Tinyface?
>>84379902
It's too late for you friend.. it was always too late
>>84384648
She's the DUFF of the group.
>>84381983
Please be Evil Star in the FINALLY Green Lantern episode.
>>84377456
It amazes me that people still won't accept felicity is the biggest problem yes there are others but none hold a candle to her
>>84387087
The issue is that getting rid of Felicity won't fix the show. More likely the problem just passes on to some other character and we just start complaining about them now.
They need a new showrunner, a complete creative upheaval.
>>84387176
This.
Felicity isn't the real problem, the writers and the network are. The amount of retarded drama and stupid decisions that ARROW has makes it almost unwatchable.
Yeah, when the showrunners said that Dexter "is going back to roots" in season 6, that was true too.
>trusting showrunners who proved themselves incompetent
Literally no different from battered housewives.
>>84374471
>season 5
>My name is Felicity Smoak
>For 4 years I have worked to save this city from the shadows. But today I have been betrayed by the one I loved. That man is dead to me, but his mission lives on. To do what he couldn't do, I must become someone else, I must become something.... else.
>>84377853
It is with a heavy heart I must inform you that there isn't enough love for Olicity in your comment. Try re-posting your comment with something more Olicity-positive in it... something along the lines of 'olicity is love', 'felicity <3', 'olicity <3', 'oliver + felicity 4ever', 'olicity ship it', 'olicity is the best romance of the 21st century' or other things!
>>84381543
Yes, yes!! Totally agree. I only watch this show for Olicity.
I sexually identify myself as Olicity. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of defending my Felicity & Oliver 4Ever Ship at Social Networks. People say to me that a person being Olicity is impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, You Thought I Was Leaving? Not a Chance. I'm having Emily Bett Rickards inject me with Hacks, Love, and Nukes. From now on I want you guys to call me "Olicity" and respect my right to Nuke Thousands of Innocents and Explode-hack your Phones. If you can't accept me you're a olicityphobe and need to check your Comic Book Fan privileges. Thank you for being so understanding.
Remember when Olicity was a nice background thing in S1, when you totally hoped Oliver would tap dat?
It has become someone else.
It has become something....else.
I had to drop Season 4 after a couple episodes.
What happened to Laurel, and Dingle, and Detective Lance? Did Roy ever come back? I really don't want to watch that garbage.
>>84391285
Laurel's dead. Dingle left the team. Lance is now dating Mama smoak. Roy will only guest star in S5. I hope my answer resuscitate your interest in watching the show. XOXO
>>84381663
aka the writers
>>84390651
>Remember
I hope you're ready /co/.
>FELICITY SMOAK (Regular) A quirky computer genius and billionaire whose expansion into journalism and National City quickly begins to push CatCo out of the city. At this point veteran superheroine, Felicity's mastery of technology also starts to assist Supergirl at keeping the city safe. With Felicity being a threat in Kara's civilian life and an asset in her heroine life, their relationship is sure to be one of the more interesting factors in the show.
>>84374471
>sparing us pointless, mind-numbing "will they, won't they"
>2016
>still being this naive
>>84374502
>implying they still remember how to make good flashbacks
I did like that flashback to pre-season 2 though after Laurel's death tbf
Arrowcucks think S5 will be good when it's the same writers? FUCKING KEK.
Add in as many characters as they like, as long as Wendy and Guggie are writing it will always be Felicity show and drama. I guess Arrowcucks are literally masochists.
>>84392385
>still needing flashbacks
Honestly at this point you shouldnt rely on them. And how long was Oliver gone? You cant just become a fucking Russian Mobster. The fuck
>>84392410
But I like Felicity. More Felicity is good for the show.
>>84374471
Two seasons lost half of the cast over fangirls flooding with multiple accounts to get what they want on tweetard.
Same thing happened with 4chan and a minority with IP changers. About 6 years ago.
>>84377872
Flash team is great. In arrows team felicity should die
>>84389308
HELL YEAH OMG HOT OLCITIY SEX WITH FELICITY BEING CEO AND MAYOR AND HER BEING A STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMEN. I HOPE SHE GETS THE SPEED FORCE AND BECOMES THE FEMALE FLASH CASE YASSSSS SHE THE QUEEENNN
>>84391654
>>84383200
>S3 was good until the second half
Fuck no it wasn't. The talkback threads were half empty by episode 5.
They do this shit every year. They promise us exactly what we want to hear and then they throw it out the window.
>>84392661
Does anyone else think they're going to make Felicity into Black Canary?
>Blonde
>leggy
>alive
>fights crime
>in love with Green Arrow
>step-father is Captain Lance
>nanobots in her bloodstream
>>84393026
Probably? Who cares?
Arrow is just about disowned by everyone else anyway with Johns and Kreisberg talking shit about it.
>>84393026
She's hawt too.
>>84393038
>Arrow is just about disowned by everyone else anyway with Johns and Kreisberg talking shit about it.
I'm a fan of the show so... I don't feel you. Are you hate-watching it then?
>Johns and Kreisberg talking shit about it
sauce
>the absolute hype that was the boxing glove arrow used in a way that was actually totally reasonable
what the fuck happened
>>84393049
>Are you hate-watching it then?
I haven't decided if I'm watching it or not. It really hasn't given me a compelling reason to do so.
>23 episodes
>the show did nothing to flesh out its main antagonist or his organization
>some crime/spy shows manage to do that with just 12 or 13 episodes
Explain this, Arrowfags.
>>84393057
Oh, you're in the bitching and moaning stage of being an entitled shitty fanboy then.
>>84393105
What
Still better than Memedevil.
>>84393203
0/10
>>84393233
But I still got you to respond! I am the master of tricks! Hahahaha!
>>84393238
+1
115/500
I'm still mad at this series for that stupid "Don't text and drive" moment. It was so forced and awkward. I know that was forever ago but still.
>>84393316
Which episode was that again?
>>84393203
FYCK YOU FAGHIT NOR ITS NOT REEEEEEEE BUTCH REEEEEEEEE
Amell is pissed
https://twitter.com/tmpctd/status/751559545621778433
>>84391654
This has got to be the worst monkey's paw I've ever seen.
>>84393354
Finally, about time he called out those insane Olicity creeps for harassing his wife.
>Gritty tone
Believe it when I see it.
>Street-level stories
Great, so I'm sure we'll see BLM pandering, and more battles on abanoned roads (looks cheap and boring after the 20th battle like that)
>New supporting cast
I can't wait for the next "diverse" person to join the group, probably fuck Thea, probably rape another DC characters origin/characteristics.
>More focus on vigilantism and its impacts on society
Haven't they already done that, or by impacts on society, guess we'll see BLM shite. (I keep coming back to this, but I don't see how they will be able to resist touching this subject multiple times)
>Less focus on relationships
Bullshit, I don't believe it. Kill felicity, we can start from there.
>Flashback storyline is how Oliver became a mobster in Russia
Finally!
>Promising the most violent oner in network television history
Doubtful.
>Oliver and Felicity getting back together right away, sparing us pointless, mind-numbing "will they, won't they"
Bullshit
>>84380276
felicity dying? please say so
>>84393026
>they're going to make Felicity into Black Canary?
Of course. Remember how she used Laurel's tonfa to fight bad guys in season finale. That was just a beginning of what's coming :-)
>>84393603
>felicity dying? please say so
I'm so fucking tired of posts like these. Who the fuck do you think you are thinking that you deserve the name of the best thing to happen since the Big Bang. Get your dirty presence away from my religon and my queen, Felicity Smoak!
>>84383285
>No, people wanted a more lighter themed and more comicy Arrow show closer to how the Flash does things, and that's what they gave us.
bullshit the premise and tone aren't the problems its the shittty writers they have that's the problem
I like how the show is about Felicity and how her ex boyfriend is a vigilante when he's not trying to get back with her.
>>84374471
>Promising the most violent oner in network television history
I like how they added "network" so they have an out when people say it isn't as good as the hallway fight from Daredevil.
>>84374471
>Street level
>Good
I can't go back after all this cool shit, muggers and gangsters? No.
(Sure, 4 sucked, but Darhk was basically a Sith Lord which was fun)
>>84374471
>Oliver and Felicity getting back together right away, sparing us pointless, mind-numbing "will they, won't they"
Yuck. The answer is NEVER
Felicity isn't a bad character. You guys hate her because she is an independent and strong woman and this is 4chan.
>>84381683
>>84381700
>>84381719
>>84381753
>>84381769
>>84381789
So... still no Sportsmaster? ;_;
>>84394823
>Sportsmaster?
I don't read comics, who the fuck is Sportsmaster? Like Taskmaster?
>>84395052
Kinda. He uses sporting equipment as weapons.
If you have the time, could someone give me the rundown on Roy since Season 3, please? Last I recall, he was this awesome Arsenal hero, and now I see here that he'll only be guest staring in Season 5?
>>84395813
Casey Jones?
>>84395874
To add, this development is especially hard for me to take since I remembered all the suffering he had to go through just to become a cool hero.
>>84374471
>Less focus on relationships
>on a CW show
ahah, never happen.
>>84395874
Roy claimed to be Arrow to protect Oliver after Oliver's identity was exposed by Lance and ended up in prison. Team Arrow knew he'd eventually get killed, so Diggle got ARGUS to fake his death and give him a new identity, and he moved to Bludhaven to work as an auto-mechanic.
He briefly came back when Felicity's father who was a criminal mastermind found him and blackmailed him into committing some robberies, and after he helped Oliver stop Felicity's father, Roy left again.
>>84395052
>I don't read comics,
why the fuck are you here?
>>84396410
/co/ - Comics & Cartoons
>>84396463
so you never seen young justice?
again why the fuck are you here?
I have hope for Season 5. Amell and crew seem to be fully aware that Season 4 was a major misfire and are looking to correct their mistakes.
>>84396211
Thanks for explaining and bringing me up to speed!
But yikes! Sad to read that he's been written out like that.
Any news on what he's supposed to be doing in Season 5, or is it too soon?
>>84374531
aside from felicity and the blonde with the weird face, I'd fuck all of them.especially amell
>>84379853
WATCH season 1 and 2. Just watch crossovers from season 3 and 4.
>>84377837
maybe that's because you're 13
>>84378146
Ye, Spartan's coming back.
And he's getting a new helmet designed by Vibe.
>>84379853
It's alright.
The first 2 seasons are nice, but season 3 and 4 are pretty weak.
Still, would recommend only for the characters that aren't Felicity or "Definitely A Trustworthy Guy" Merlyn (not to be confused with "Actual Villain" Merlyn).
>>84381789
Since Church isn't a comics character, I think he's probably the Arrowverse version of Tobias Whale.
>>84386687
Green Lantern...'s sister-in-law will show up.
At least Hal Jordan is confirmed to exist in the Arrowverse (and The Flash implies that he's on Oa or somewhere else in space).
>>84391285
Roy will return in season 5.
>>84394101
>when people say it isn't as good as the hallway fight from Daredevil.
That shit is overated, Batfleck fucking people up in the Knightmare sequence was more interesting.
>>84393049
Before Rebirth, Johns said something in the lines of "Green Arrow wouldnt be Green Arrow without Black Canary"
>>84393055
He was fighting a boxer (Wildcat) in a gym and just used whatever he could find as a weapon.
>>84374471
Green Arrow died in Season 3 in the hands of Ra's al Ghul. Everything that has occured ever since is happening in Oliver's head as he falls through the winds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS_eLPMRDvw
>>84397348
This. I'm hopefully hyped to see where they take season 5.
>>84374471
Gritty tone
>Street-level stories
Love it
>New supporting cast
.. yeah because Arrow needs more of those supporting people.
It's not like we have tons of those already.. Oh wait.
>More focus on vigilantism and its impacts on society
>Less focus on relationships
>Flashback storyline is how Oliver became a mobster in Russia
Alright.. sounds pretty good
>Oliver and Felicity getting back together right away
aaand you lost me
You know what.. Kill of Felicity and we might get a decent show instead of "Felicity fixes everything with computers: The show"
>>84374471
>season 5 is starting to sound good
I am sorry but that's no reason for me to suffer trough 4 bad seasons.
>>84397348
>>84399356
The both of you deserve everything bad that happens. I'll never get this battered housewife syndrome.
>>84396564
>young justice
Terrible cartoon. He'd be lucky if he didn't subject himself to that shit.
>>84374471
Arrow will forever be shit compared to Marvel's Netflix stuff
>>84401725
They're both about the same level of roughly 50% good, 50% shit overall
>>84374662
>>84374471
don't fall for their shit, anon. Olicity is here to stay ...also flashbacks are pointless and fucking trash at this point. Just put Arrow to rest.
>>84377600
I can bet good money after bad that you're the guy who sends the kind of texts that girls show each other for keks. In a few years you'll be hangin around high schools looking for gullible girls just so someone will touch your penis for a change.
>literal fuckboys are on /co/ now
Oh God it's only July there'll be 2 more months of this shit
At what point should i stop watching?
>>84402915
If you didn't stop past season 2, you're in for a ride.
>>84377872
>Their only partners should be each other
Just like my fanfics
>not liking Based Cisco
>or qt 3.14 Caitlin
>or Black Dad
>preferring they leave so dumb-as-rocks Barry can dipshit around by himself
dude do you even watch Flash?
>>84402932
I'm still in season 2
>>84381683
>decide to kill off character
>don't spare a thought for who to kill off, what their departure will mean for the show, or any consequence whatsoever
>Immediately act like the character never left a l a Weekend at Bernie's
>>84381700
FUCK
>>84381719
THIS
>>84381753
SHIT
>>84383200
>This season is finally giving people what they actually wanted instead of just generic hype
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>84383285
>lighter themed and more comicy Arrow show
>and that's what they gave us.
>Black Canary died
>10,000 people died by nuclear blast
>even Stephen Amell's hopes and dreams died
so light-hearted
>>84387176
>They need a new showrunner, a complete creative upheaval.
AND SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY WRITE A FEMALE LEAD INSTEAD OF A DOG-WHISTLE WITH TITS
>>84389431
In all seriousness, there are actual, real people who wake up in the morning and decide they'll spend the whole day dreaming about two fictional characters and theit toxic, abusive relationship. Does that scare you? Cos it terrifies me.
>>84393040
>her sad tits don't even look good in leather with erect nipples
she's cute but by no means hot
>>84393354
Wow, he made his entire face go cross-eyed!
Must be a genuine living nightmare to be him, I'm so sorry it came to this.
>>84396410
P sure that post was satire.
as long as the writers are fat tumblrinas, nothing will change. imagine those shippers writing a gritty political crime drama, that'd be even worse than them writing a soap opera.
>>84401405
>Terrible cartoon.
are you one of those idiots that hate villains being competent?
