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Grevious and Dooku will never hold you - Edition

>SPECIAL EVENT:
Star Wars Celebration Europe: July 15 - 17

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Out This Week:
LEGO Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures - Episode 6
Aftermath: Life Debt

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
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>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
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Any more news on the Ahsoka novel??
It's title perhaps.
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>>84374462
We won't find anything out until Celebration.
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So about that CGI :^)
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>>84374462
Pretty sure it's just called Ahsoka
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>>84374520
Don't you even
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I can't find an answer online anywhere....

Will Del Rey publish all the old canon books as Legends in paperback??

Or will they just release the popular ones?

I currently have 51 Legends paperbacks, only know of 4 others published with Legends banner

Only 50 something out of 153 novels have been published with the Legends banner so far
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>>84374520
SHUTUP!
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>>84374665
You're better off asking that question to Del Rey themselves. I'm sure their social media manager would welcome a question that isn't the Legends/Canon autism they receive en masse every day.
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>>84374520
Cant we post about, like, story and stuff. Like Anakin for example. Why did he blame Ahsoka for leaving him? He seemed cool initially?
Star wars is cool and interesting
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>>84375090
In my head I think Ahsoka leaving was what first planted the seeds of 'fuck the Jedi, I need to leave the order' in Anakin's head. I think he was pissed off at her because he was trying to rationalize the Jedi's decision to kick her out as much as possible to the point where he was forcing it. He probably realized this at some point in RotS and started wishing that he had left with Ahsoka. Then by the time of Rebels he's probably pissed off at her because she could have easily absolutely destroyed the credibility of the Jedi because of what they did to her and helped him see the Jedi for what they truly were and ran away with him and Padme, but she didn't and instead of having a nice life with all 3 of them living in the woods of Naboo or something it was too late for that so Padme died, some Jedi survived, and Vader now had to wear a shitty black suit for the rest of his life.
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You must integrate Superman, Lois, and their son into the Star Wars universe, go
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>>84375732
Throw them into Marty Stu ville where they belong
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>>84375732
Have them on Alderaan when the Death Star blew it up. The end.
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>>84375177
I think her leaving was the second and propably the biggest crack in his faith in the order, the first being when Obi-Wan and the council did that whole counter conspiracy thing, he seemed really hurt. But I wonder if Ahsoka not leaving would have helped in the end and keep him from turning or if she had said something like "dude I know about you and padamame or whatever, stop hididing behind your finger and man up" would have pushed him to leave too. Although given many of his reaction I think his fall would have been inevitable. He was waaayy to jealous and attached. I would really like a what if type of comic/novel/whatever, there was a good one posted here a while before
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>>84375854
>that pic
>the Star Wars sitcom we'll never get
>feelsbadman.jpg
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>>84374520
>>84374551
>>84374804

I don't get it. Can somebody explain?
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>>84375854
It's implied throughout the series that Anakin never really takes being a Jedi seriously anyway. When he's in the citadel with Tarkin, he starts talking about how he never really appreciated the ways that the Jedi solved problems.

Also, he obviously doesn't care about the Jedi rules that much considering he and Padme are together for his whole career as a Jedi knight. His idea of having fun is spending time with Padme AWAY from the Republic and the Jedi order.

He's never liked the Order or had any motivation to stay with it. If he hadn't been Sheeved, I honestly believe that he would've just left the Jedi order after the Clone Wars so he could take care of his kids. The only reason he went full genocide was because Palpatine took all those feelings of distrust and subliminal hate and concentrated it by tempting Anakin with the only power he would ever truly value: the ability to retain his attachments forever.

Looking back on what I wrote, it's kind of all over the place but the main point is that Anakin never liked the order all through the Clone Wars and the council's bad decisions only made Sheev's brainwashing easier
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>>84376366
There was a huge """"discussion"""" about CGI in the last thread
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Why is Mango butt the best butt?
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>>84376628
Because they lift weighs.
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>>84376652
You mean squats?
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>>84376541
>>84375854
Why not just make his own order? With Twileks and sabbac!

I imagine a good number of people would join to follow a big war hero like him, or escape the weird council shit.
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>>84376730
Exactly. Deadlift, squat, bench press.
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Made some Grievous webms
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>>84376871
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>>84376871
Grievous is best cyborg
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>>84376882
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>>84376541
He's always taken the role seriously, the problem is he agrees with the spirit of the Jedi Order, but not always with its methods. There's a huge difference between that and "oh, he doesn't follow the rules, that must mean he doesn't really care about the Jedi Order."
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>>84376899

>>84376890
This is the truth
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>>84375732
Luke and Ben Solo visit a planet as part of Ben's training, where they discover that the planet is protected by a "super" being that seems impervious to all damage and has kept the planet safe from the Confederacy, Empire, Hutts, and everything else that might hurt it.

The people have come to rely on this being and no longer believe in things like the Force because the "Super Man" doesn't use it so what good is it?

Luke and Ben eventually discover that the Super Man has a cover identity and has been trying to live normally with his wife (who creates holovids about events in the city) and their son, who is manifesting powers like his father.

Ben becomes fascinated by this power and blows the lid off of the fact that he and Luke know about the Super Man's cover identity when he asks point blank why the man doesn't help other places in the galaxy. The Man reveals that he is only strong in this particular solar system due to the chemical make-up of the sun, and he wouldn't survive travel to other systems (as far as he can tell).

Luke turns this into a lesson about how all power has its limits, but Ben sees it more as an act of cowardice on the part of the Super Man that he doesn't try other ways to make his powers help those that could have really used it over the last fifty years...such as the people of Alderaan.
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>>84376541
I won't argue that Sheev was a master planner but holy shit was the dude lucky. I mean that whole Ahsoka trial shit, he must have been very confused, in a "This is not my doing,what the hell guys" way. I get that the order was fucked bc of war 'n stuff but having the padawan of his pet project being accued and all that shit following? He must have been trying waaaayy too hard not to start cackling sheevously during the trial.
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>>84376918
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>>84376871
I don't think a Jedi could dodge 100 blaster shots simultaneously
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>>84376948
Last one for now, I'll be back with more later, have to go run some errands
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>>84376871
>>84376882
>>84376899
>>84376918
>>84376948
>>84376985
>tfw we will never get anything like this ins Star Wars again
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>>84376950
Obi-Wan was pretty good at form III by that point, a form designed around the idea of blocking a billion blaster bolts and surviving.
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>>84377000
100% CGI characters with the personality of a saturday morning cartoon villain, written by a hack?

Good. I mean, I love Grievous but Episode 3 was such a disservice to him.
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>>84377081
>written by a hack

(You)
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>>84377118
george go to sleep
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>>84377118
>taking the bait
Stupid
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>>84376541
>Anakin never really takes being a Jedi seriously anyway
You couldn't be further from the truth. anakin believe it or not is actually in the right like Qui-Gon was. The Jedi Order dogmatically clinged to their traditions and codes instead of moving forward and advancing. He was at odds because the Jedi were being retarded during the Clone wars.

>>84374520
That was a pretty good discussion. Look at movie technology from 100 years ago to now. We've come a long way from men in rubber suits to computer generated animals of fantastic designs.
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>>84377081
>100% CGI characters with the personality of a saturday morning cartoon villain, written by a hack?

You mean Snoke?
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>>84376918
It's really satisfying to see obi-Wan finally put him down in EP3 after watching TCW for so long.
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>>84377249
>fantastic designs
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>>84377256
They should have gotten someone different than Serkis to do Snoke. Not that anyone else is on Serkis' level, but just that half of the animations were just Gollum again.
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>>84376985
>>84376948
>>84376918
>>84376899
>>84376882
>>84376871

Possibly the shittiest villain to ever appear in /sw/. He may also quite literally be retarded.
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>>84377461
That's not Phasma though.
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>>84377522
Phasma was barely a villain. She had what, 2 minutes of screentime and was barely part of the plot.
Also not retarded. Not that we know of anyway, Grievances is literally retarded.
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>>84377550
>Grievances is literally retarded
For (You)
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>>84377578
Are you actually telling me he isn't?
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>>84377550
>Also not retarded.
Phasma shut down the shield generator because they told her to. This is literally the only thing she actually does.
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>>84377620
At gunpoint. And she is barely part of the plot, had it not been for the marketing machine she would have not even been worth a mention.
Greyvans is still a fucking retard.
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>>84377461
Grievous is pretty awful, but FB and SS aren't better. They're all a bunch of jobbers. At least Dooku managed to be decent in TCW, but then he died like a jobber in ROTS.
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>>84377620
That doesn't make her retarded, that makes her someone scared for her life...which really doesn't fit in with what the bad ass stormtrooper leader should do.
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>>84377651
I don't know, he beat Obi-Wan pretty well in ROTS.
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>>84377620
What I don't get is how nobody else at Starkiller Base could see that the shield is down and just turn it back up. Was the random console they led Phasma to the only one that could control the shield?
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>>84377651
Dooku was dead on arrival due to his stupid name. Besides Sheev, the prequel trilogy is rife with absolutely shit villains. Well, shit characters in general, but the villains were just awful.

Who are FB and SS?
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>people keep feeding the same shit troll that was here yesterday
For fuck's sake people
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>>84377692
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>>84377690
I would have been fine with the lines
>Our shields our down sir
>Get them back online
>that will take 250 seconds, sir
>...shit
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>>84377684

Looking at their fights, even in The Clone Wars, they were pretty much neck-and-neck in terms of skill. All it took was a bit of luck(and plot armor) for one of them to be the victor.
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>>84377690
Maybe it takes some time to recharge? I wont argue it was a bit retarded. Although it might have been less so if they hadnt hyped her up to be the ultimate badass nu-fett
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>>84376985
>>84376948
>>84376918
>>84376899
>>84376882
>>84376871
>Grevious' fight was hindered because of CG vs non CG
Wonder how different the fight would've been if George CG'd Obi Wan at parts during the fight
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>>84377692
You mean like Grand Moff "Fuck evacuation, there's no way we can lose" Tarkin?

Or Boba "BTFO'd by a blind guy" Fett?

Or Darth "I get pushed around by old guys in nazi suits until the next movie where I inexplicably change my entire personality" Vader?
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>>84377606
No, I'm saying your bait is weak. Put some effort into your trolling technique. Don't use words like literally or misspell the character your criticizing.
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>>84377780
I wonder how different it would have been if Obi Wan fought some dude and not a CGI thing. CGI vs actor looks like fucking shit.
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>>84377692
>>84377726

Makes sense for them to kinda suck, at this point they exist either to terrify non-force sensitive rebels, identify other force sensitives, and maybe slow them down until vader joins in. Also I Sheev wouldnt tolerate having properly trained dark side users runing around.
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>>84377051
Oh it's one of those non-anwers that get explained in the supplemental material published after the fact
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>>84377725
Good trolls and bad trolls are good practice for taking our star Wars skills to the real world of YouTube and Wookipedia.. It's good to use the knowledge we have here to handily assrape /tv/ trolls with star wars logic, anon
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>>84377753
>Although it might have been less so if they hadnt hyped her up to be the ultimate badass nu-fett
I like that they're still making Phasma merchandise, too. The funny part is that it's still selling because cool armor trumps however little role she had in the story. I mean, we've known that for ages thanks to Boba, but this sets a new precedent as far as the "amount of shit actually done"/"how much merch is out there" ratio.
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>>84377797
Boba Fett was not a villain, he was a minion of Jabba's. And a shit one at that.

And now you are actually comparing Darth Vader and Tarkin with who... fuckin' Doku(Jesus, what a shit name) and Cowardly Chink Man Frog? Are you being serious?
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>>84377820
>it's good that the villains suck
Jesus Christ.

>>84377850
She is more significant than Bobba. By a centimeter.
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>>84377888
>She is more significant than Bobba.
Sorry, who is Bobba again?
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>>84377860
I saw no comparison, just him agreeing that Star Wars has shit villains in general
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>>84377888
>Bobba
You're not even trying anymore.
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>>84377860
>Dooku is a dumb name

>Implying Jabba isn't a dumb name
>Implying Palpatine isn't a dumb name
>Implying Obi-Wan isn't a dumb name
>Implying Dak isn't a dumb name
>Implying Biggs isn't a dumb name
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>>84377901
The guy fucking your mom.

>picking on a typo
Pathetic.
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>>84377905
Sheev and Darth Vader are shitty now?

>>84377916
They are strange, not shitty.
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>>84377888
They werent the main villains though they were just vaders mooks, a speed bump of sorts
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>>84377888
>She is more significant than Bobba
>Boba captured Han Solo
>and his crew
>turning them into a trap for Vader to lure Luke
>which is mostly responsible for the actions of the third film
>versus Phasa lowering shields

Fuck you troll

>>84377924
>picking on a typo
You keep making them for simple Star Wars names. You're terrible at trolling.
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>>84377820

That's pretty much what the show runners intended. Sidious had Vader train the Inquisition to deliberately to be weak so they couldn't pose a threat to the Sith (hence why Darth Maul is capable of fighting three of them alone with ease). They're mine canaries. They sniff out force sensitives. And if they encounter a Jedi, they call Vader assuming they haven't already bit the dust.
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>>84377924
>misspelling the name of a major Star Wars character
You have to be 18 to post here, son.
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>>84377950
I saw no one talking about Palpatine and Anakin
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>>84377968
>Boba captured Han Solo
>and his crew

Actually, he didn't. Vader did. Boba just followed them. Literally everything that happened on Cloud City was Vader's work.
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>>84377118
Why is it suddenly cool to love George Lucas again? Did everyone forget how he was the laughingstock of the Internet for over a decade?
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>>84377968
Boba didn't create that trap you fool, Vader did.
Also, Han was absolutely useless by the end of Empire. Like most of the characters save for Luke, Sheev and Vader. And maybe Lando.

>You keep making them
Where? Show me where?
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>>84378014
Because even when he fails at least he fucking tried. Unlike J.J. "The Fanservice Awakens" Abrams.
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>>84378044
Tippitty toppitty kek.
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>>84378014
>Why is it suddenly cool to love George Lucas again?
For a lot of people TCW redeemed him.
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>Swallowing this much bait
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>>84378014
>Did everyone forget how he was the laughingstock of the Internet for over a decade?

Only a laughingstock to OT elitists and tryhards who couldn't decide for themselves, which made up the vocal majority. There have been plenty of people who loved George the entire time. Myself included.

But to answer your question in a manner I think you were more wanting; It's because of JJ and his warped interpretation of what he thinks Star Wars should be.
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>>84378078
>>84378069


It still baffles me how people who like the prequels can hate fucking TFA.
I mean, I get it if you like the prequels(well, kind of), but by God, hating the film that anyone who hasn't put the autism glasses on can literally see is better is fucking... I don't even know what.

>>84378074
>if he doesn't agree with me it's b8
Do you need a safe space lad?
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>>84378127
>It still baffles me how people who like the prequels can hate fucking TFA.
Sounds like a personal problem. May want to talk to your school's guidance counselor about that.
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>>84378014
Despite all his failures he created (or at least played a very major part) all of what we talk in this thread. He is a very good worldbuilder, he just sucks at directing. Also I would argue that many things the internet spergs out about might be obvious in hindsight but not during the movies creation. Also in the end no matter how his changes are hated (some by myself included) I believe he had every right to make any retroactive change if he thought it would help bring it closer to his vision.

No I am not baiting
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>>84378153
Am I on /tv/? Are you shitposting?
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>>84378074
The funny part is that this guy's clearly very young (he still thinks "I fucked your mom!" is a good burn) and is just repeating shit he's seen on the internet without any real critical thought on his own part. He's going for low-effort trolling, but it's backfiring because now he's the one getting mad that the people he's trying to troll are just laughing at him.
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>>84378174
And at screenwriting. He sucks at screenwriting.
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>>84378190
>I will claim moral superiority based on nothing whatsoever
>if he has a different opinion he must be a troll

Jesus Christ.
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>>84378240
If you were older than 15 you'd already know the "different opinion isn't trolling!" is an old tactic that never works. It's also almost always a sign that you are indeed trolling.
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>>84378262
/tv/ incarnate. Literally the same arguments that drove me out of that shithole years ago.
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>>84378127
>It still baffles me how people who like the prequels can hate fucking TFA.

I don't hate TFA, there are parts of it that I actually really liked. And those parts were the things that were new. The rest of the movie I wasn't in favor of because of it's lack of originality. And also because the movie's pacing was awful. Now I can understand that you despise the prequels, if only on account that the OT elitists exist. But you can't deny that (if you exclude the prequels) TFA is an incredibly weak Star Wars film and that the people in charge of big decision makings did this entirely some kind of agenda, for the money via OT elitists and not for the love of the project.

That's why people miss George. He may not have struck it right for everyone, but he tried to put everything he had into each aspect of the films to make them as good as they possibly could be at the time. And that's something TFA sorely lacked in abundance.
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>>84378300
Did you leave when you were twelve because someone offended your mom? lmao
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>>84378183
>starts shitposting
>get called out for it
>NO UR THE SHITPOSTER
No, you're not on /tv/ but you should head back there. They're talking about your favorite, ghostbusters 2016, pizza threads, GOT and cuck/pedo threads.
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What are the chances Lucas's VII would've been better than JJ's.
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Once again, falling for the bait.

Here we go again.
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>>84378373
Eh, 50/50. It would've at least been more original, since Lucas indicated in that interview that the nostalgia pandering they were planning was one of the things he strongly disagreed with.
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>>84378014
What reason is there to hate him?
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>>84378373
It depends. Georgie really seems to change his mind on star wars every 45 seconds. Recently he said it wasn't a space opera but a family... opera? That star wars was all about family and skywalkers.
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>>84378373
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>>84378319
>he tried to put everything he had into each aspect of the films
The making of shows us otherwise. He liked sitting down and not getting down and dirty to film again in Tunisia or the California Redwoods. Just huge greenscreens everywhere in safe sound studios. He did not give a shit about anything in the prequel trilogy besides the CGI and pushing special effects further and further. There might have been a good story there but he is not even a decent screenwriter so it all ended up being a huge clusterfuck.

Am I to assume you like the prequels more than the OT?

>>84378361
>>84378346
>shits on /tv/
>while using the same tactics
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I wouldn't mind getting Battlefront just to fly this thing
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>>84378373
Depends on what his involvement would be. If he came up with the story and let someone else write the screenplay and actually direct, I think it would've been better than what Abrams did. If he wrote and directed it himself... eh, I don't know, but either way a Lucas Episode 7 would've have been the rehash that the Abrams movie was.
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>>84378405
It's fun and it will only get worse before and after celebration. Brace yourselves, lads.
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>>84378450
>He liked sitting down and not getting down and dirty to film again in Tunisia
You realize he went to Tunisia for both Episode 1 and 2, right- wait, of course you don't, that would require research for your low-effort trolling. Got me again!
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>>84378405
>>84378464

You are actually so entrenched in this that anyone who disagrees with you must seem like a troll. You should find that horrifying.
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>>84378405
Hey, at least the thread is getting activity.

>>84378490
I dont even thinking he's seen the Makin-Of's
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>>84378453
Won't new battlefront be about the sequel trilogy? I guess if they make a rogue one dlc then maybe but propably highly unlikely.
is it that much to ask for a new dogfighting game that includes space battles? I mean its star wars. STAR wars. Fucking execs and marketers with their bullshit market research trusting internet spergs
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>>84378490
Well, he actually did, fuck me, you're right.

Didn't save the movie tho.
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>>84378502
I love how he just keeps doubling down on the "I'm not a troll guys, I just have a different opinion!" thing. Even Shit Wars wasn't this stupid.
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>>84378438
>Georgie really seems to change his mind on star wars every 45 seconds
He's been revisiting this franchise for the past 30 years. It makes sense things would change especially his perspective and ideas making it. You've never revisited old works of yours and changed them because you thought your old ideas were retarded?
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>>84378532
And yet none of you even bother to argue with me. It should be fucking easy right?
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>>84378405
Didn't there used to be a pic of that scene where the stormtroopers are sweeping the dune sea for the droids, with the caption 'Look, sir: trolls"
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>>84378530
>Star Wars
>Wanting Wars in the Stars
That's not fun! What's wrong with you, anon?
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>>84378502
(You) and 0/10.

Also, have a nice day.
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>>84378450
Jesus, this again?
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>>84378014
It's thanks to JJ.
You never know what you truly have until you lose it.
George cared about the universe the same way as we do.

Had George continued doing Star Wars, he for sure would have received a bunch of more hate.
But now JJ comes around and shows us that maybe George wasn't that bad.
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>>84378530
Sadly, nobody cares about Star or Wars. They just want to be able to play with long flashy glow sticks and push you from a mile away.
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>>84378552
We are, you just keep going "B-BUT THAT'S WRONG, LUCAS IS CRAP" because you're terrible at this.
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>>84378568
Yeah, so you are.

I would love to be enlightened though, what makes the prequels good? Can somebody gimme a str8 answer or is it just going to be a chorus of "lel rebiit, /tv/, troll haha lel"?
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>>84378373
Had they done what they did with Clone Wars, he supplies ideas, plots and so on and someone else directs the stuff the movie would have been glorious.
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>>84378577
George does not give one shit about Star Wars.
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>>84378531
>Didn't save the movie tho.
According to who, you? The film(s) did extremely well.
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>>84378597
>I would love to be enlightened though, what makes the prequels good?
We already told you it's a matter of opinion, but because you're a dedicated shitposter you ignore that and just keep drumming on the usual NO PREQUELS WERE BAD YOU'RE WRONG TO LIKE THEM LUCAS IS A HACK because you are hilariously bad at this.
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>>84378615
hah
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>>84378536
>You've never revisited old works of yours and changed them because you thought your old ideas were retarded?
No, not really. But I've never created a big universe either but georgie seems me to be a little adhd in some ways. Some of the things I've heard about him makes him appear half-insane.
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>>84378617
So did Transformers, Alice in Wonderland and Fast and Furious. The merits of a film should not be based on revenue or critic reviews(see most Marvel films).
Explain to me what is good about it, I genuinely am willing to listen.
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>>84378654
>I genuinely am willing to listen.
You've proven since yesterday that you're not. Nobody's falling for it, dude.
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>this thread
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>>84378597
>"lel rebiit, /tv/, troll haha lel"?
No one outside /tv/, /v/ and /pol/ says shit like this.
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>>84378623
No one did. Literally no one. Again
>>84378654
I am willing to listen if you are willing to talk. Or you can go back to shitposting and calling me a troll.
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>>84378617
I think people forget that although not everyone spergs about Star Wars on forums and nitpicks every little think it is still one of the, if not the most economically successfull movie franchise. Its not some niche Ghanian film recorded on goat leather
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>>84378682
>Literally
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
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>>84378531
Nor did filming on location with PRACTICAL EFFECTS make TFA feel any less hollow and underwhelming. It's not that I hate the movie, it's that after everything, I literally cannot feel much of anything for it because it has no real staying power, draw or point to digest. JJ's modus operandi of filming everything with the "good, but is this delightful?" mindset kind of killed any chance of the movie being significant and impactful to anyone other than those still slighted by the gradually depressing atmosphere of the Prequels.
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>>84378670
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>>84378667
>yesterday
>>84378672

I wasn't here yestarday. Sure, you can fucking call me a troll or we can talk. But I know you won't because there's not one discernible argument inside your little heads besides calling me a troll.


And I am again, telling you to talk instead of ad-hominem and other strawman bullshit.
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>>84378670
It's not easy being the only sane man in the room.
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>all this talk about tfa and JJ
Fuck off

everyone post your favorite EU stuff
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>>84378688
There are people who honestly believe the prequels were box office bombs. It's especially funny when they try to use box office as a measure of how good and beloved the movie is and have to be reminded that by that logic Episode 1 is the second most loved Star Wars movie.
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>>84378731
No, new canon or bust
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>>84378635
>georgie seems me to be a little adhd in some ways. Some of the things I've heard about him makes him appear half-insane.
I don't think so.

With A New Hope, he was incredibly disappointed with the technology and executive meddling. Only when he made the prequel trilogies and saw how much technology advanced did he feel the need to make modifications. He could finally recreate the worlds he imagined. The McQuarrine paintings reflect this. I understand him looking at the OT and saying "I could change this, this looks funny" and etc. It was something he was never satisfied with.

Personally, I cannot stand looking at past works of mine without excessively changing every detail because I think it looks like shit.
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>>84378718
>I wasn't here yestarday.
Yeah, nah. Same posting style, even some of the same typos, same arguing. You were here yesterday. You're not even good at pretending to be a different guy.
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>>84378731
I BID YOU DARK GREETINGS!
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>>84378670
So much fucking bait, it's astounding
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>>84378731

I loved the ARC Troopers. Thank goodness George thought highly of them too.
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>>84378731
Do they still write EU stuff?
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>>84378750
>>84378718
Would you two faggots play nice and stop shitting up the thread? Tell me your favorite star wars related thing
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>>84378731
>everyone post your favorite EU stuff
OH HI THERE
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>>84378743
Fine, post Togrutas then
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>>84378731
This track. I saw the CD at a supermarket as a kid. The next time I was there, it was gone. One of my few regrets in skipping over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM6iZvsoCJ0
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>>84378769
Nope, Canon only.

Only EU content being produced is TOR, and reprinted old books and comics with Legends banners.
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>>84378769
There are still some Old republic (from the MMO) stories I think.
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>>84378779
I love Sheev. McDiarmid has appeared in almost nothing else besides SW for more than 10 minutes, but he shows his acting chops. He's literally the best thing in the franchise. And the only really good thing about the prequels, save for sparks of humanity for McGregor.
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>>84378803
I still want to get that Bounty Hunter Code Book. I liked the rest of the books in the series.
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>>84378803
>Only EU content being produced is TOR
Which people still try to argue is TRUE and HONEST canon because it's being made after the April 2014 cutoff, and have to be reminded that Pablo and others have repeatedly said TOR isn't part of the new canon.
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>>84378731
Our true lord and savior that was taken from us.
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>>84378615
Probably not anymore now that literally everyone and their grandmother has shooed him out of anything to do with it. Or he's at least forcing himself not to care. Everyone says they want to be respectful to his vision while ignoring the fact that vision can and does change to suit different interests over time. The particulars of his vision changed but the core and fundamentals remained pretty much the same.

But people naturally naturally hate change so can't have that

Also he's too busy actually being happy with his first full family in over thirty years
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>>84378731
I like the bdsm space orcs with biotech.
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>>84378838
Even if he's not around anymore, you can still find his followers lurking in the dark corners of the internet... watching and waiting for someone to say the length of a super star destroyer so that they may pounce on them and prove them wrong with NO MERCY!
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>>84378844
I don't think he ever cared that much.
For him, SW was more like a career killer, all things considered. He never made anything other than SW as a director after that, and he didn't even direct the best SW film.

I'd still argue his best work is THX 1138, and I believe that's what he always kind of wanted to make. Only the era of that kind of SF films was kind of over by the early '80s and he killed it, ironically, with SW.
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>>84378844
Pretty sure he thinks about Star Wars every time his daughter says her first words or first steps.

Also nice double dubs.
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>>84378895
I've still yet to see THX 1138. The only thing keeping me back is my strange aversion to black and white film
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>>84378790
That's some good taste you have, friend.

https://youtu.be/YfScinxm22s
https://youtu.be/AxGTSP2tGXE
https://youtu.be/MFtlenhmhKg
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>>84378888
I just miss how overpowered he made Star Wars. It was a sense of pride to know what a light quadturbo laser could do to a planet. Now we have black science man saying the falcon would be rekt by the enterprise.
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>>84378746
>Personally, I cannot stand looking at past works of mine without excessively changing every detail because I think it looks like shit.
And what do you do exactly?
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>>84378895
He definitely experienced burnout around the time of ROTJ (the divorce certainly didn't help), but after taking a few years off and starting preliminary work on the prequels in 1995 I think he came at it with a fresh perspective and a genuine enthusiasm for it. Whether that translated into something good or bad is debatable, but I think he did start caring about Star Wars again.
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>>84378834

>Sheev
>Obi-Wan
>Wedge

Why do Scotsmen and Star Wars go so well together?
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>>84378373
Wasn't TFA's final plot pretty similar to what he pitched?
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>>84378928
>black and white

No offense, are you retarded?
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>>84378895
He cared about it but no one and even Lucas didn't expect it to do well. it became more of a hassle as time went on. he says this in multiple interviews. he wanted to keep making experimental movies and throwbacks to pulp shit like star wars and indianan jones but fans went nuts over it
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>>84378942

Thing was, he didn't want to direct the prequels until Spielberg, Kasdan, and other people told him that he should do it himself.

In hindsight I think they were afraid of fucking up and didn't want the responsibility of a bad star wars movies on their hands, but one would think they would have had a great working relationship with George.
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>>84378928
Uh... it's not in black and white
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>>84378895
>and he didn't even direct the best SW film.
But anon, Lucas directed Revenge of the Sith
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>>84378932
shitpost on /pol/ threads
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>>84376882
>>84376899
>>84376918
And so it was that EVERY SINGLE GREVIOUS FIGHT in the clone wars involved him doing the spinning thing
And he usually loses a hand or two
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>>84378964
>>84378978
I might have been referring to the original short.
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>>84378948
Not quite.

Lucas gave them an outline for 7, 8, 9, Han Solo, and another unrevealed Star Wars movie. (Not Rogue One though, that was an entirely Lucasfilm/Kathleen/Disney idea)

Apparently The Force Awakens was changed quite a bit, but the general outline is still from Lucas. Lucas wasn't too happy about some of the changes, apparently. What in particular, we may never know.
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>>84378946
Heroine.

>>84378942
The prequels were a lunching pad for movie effects. He did not give a shit about the story but he did about the effects. I wish he'd gone ahead and done something with the old characters instead anyway, while they were still in their prime.
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>>84378948
There's elements of it. Apparently the Arndt script was closer to what Lucas wanted, so I think the 'search for Luke' part was probably part of the original pitch.
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>>84378995
No you weren't.
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>>84378995
It's not black and white either.
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>>84378450
>Am I to assume you like the prequels more than the OT?

No. I like both trilogies equally.
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>>84379047
OK, gotcha. How would you rank them if you had to?

5>4>7(yeah, yeah)>6>3>1>2

>inb4 kill myself
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>>84379014
That's a shame, the search for Luke was a good idea for a story, the movie just ends up derailing it to focus on Death Star 3, then quickly wraps up the Luke plot afterward.
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>>84378948
That's what they tell you
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>>84379078

>tis' the season then
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>>84379032
>>84379040
Interesting. I swear all footage I've seen of it has been black and white but alright. That's my bad
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>>84379078
Swap 7 and 6 and that's my ranking too.
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>>84379078
5
3
4
6
7
1
2
TCW (film)
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>>84379098
The color palette is very mute indeed, so it may have something to do with that. There's almost nothing but black and white in the entire film(s).
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>>84379078
5>4>3>6>7>1>2
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While I do agree that Boba Fett is massively overrated by his fans, the one thins I don't get about his detractors is the claim that "he let Vader do all his work for him."

He was able to figure out immediately how Han Solo evaded the Star Destroyer's sensors and how he'd escape. He also managed to deduce than Han was going to Bespin, out of all planets in the galaxy, AND to Cloud City, out of all the potential settlements on Bespin. Not only that, but he was able to figure it out with enough time to report back to Vader and have both of them set up a trap for him well before he even gets there. A good hunter uses all the tools at his disposal to ensure the job is done, and his tools were fucking Darth Vader and a Star Destroyer's worth of Stormtroopers.

He also did it in such a way to benefit BOTH of his contractors, Vader and Jabba, and essentially double his reward.
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>>84378988
Don't we all
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>>84379078
Oh boy is it ranking time
5>4>3=6>7>>>>>>1>>>>>>>>>>2
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>>84379005
>He did not give a shit about the story
Wow, how wrong you are. A relatively poor execution of story doesn't necessarily indicate a deliberate lack of care for it. There's quite a good bit of care in and for the story. Just because the making of tends to showcase more of the physical and special aspects of the put into the story.
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>>84379078

TESB> RoTS> RoTJ> TPM> AoTC> ANH> TFA
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>>84379127
Personally I wish the EU had focused more on his tracking skills. He got his prize in ESB not by being a one-man army that had all kinds of weapons on him, but by outsmarting them. There's a few good stories in the EU that have Boba coming out on top because of his wits but by and large there was always this "he can shoot anyone at anytime and he kills 100000 guys at once because he has all these weapons that he can use!" idea that was just boring.
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>>84379161
He's just not that good as a screenwriter and it shows. Nor is he as good as a director. Or, maybe in the 23 years between SW and PM he just lost it.
I'd still argue his tightest(not best, that's still SW) film is THX 1138 but that's because I'm a huge fan of those types films of that era. All except 2001 if you can believe it.
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Why would anyone pay this much for Jango?

>>84379078
5>6>3>4>2>7>1

When I was a kid, my dad showed them to me 4, 5, 6, 1.
Then we went and saw 2 and 3 in theaters.
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>>84379167
>anh
>6th

GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>84379220
Maybe his head pops off or something
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>>84379186
I always took the weapons to be a sign of a paranoid nature. Like he's not actually going to use all of his shit at once, but he keeps thinking if he loses X weapon, well he can fall back on Y, and then on Z and so on.

The way he cradles his rifle also struck me as a little paranoid, like he's afraid that the moment he puts it down someone's going to try to shoot him.
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Someone care to do a Spielberg top?
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>4
>5
>6
pure shit that shouldn't be mentioned
>3
>1
>2
hell itself
>7
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>>84379220
Rarity. Jango just came out and he's particularly hard to find. A lot of the most recent Black Series releases are hard to find for two reasons:
1. distribution is crap
2. a lot of big box stores are still sitting on unsold Zuvios, Finns, Flametroopers and TIE Pilots and even if they have boxes with Jangos, Ahsokas, Kanans, etc in the back, they're not going to put them out because there isn't space out front
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>>84379220
>Why would anyone pay this much for Jango?

I would. But that's probably because he's one of my favorite characters.
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>>84378972
Thinking especially in hindsight, I don't think anything could have saved the prequels from the fan reaction. Fans were expecting a sequel to the franchise they grew up with not something completely different. it would have "failed" to fans no matter what
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I always found it funny that you've got names like Obi Wan, Anakin, Han, Jabba, Boba, etc.
And the main character and his sister are just named Luke and Leia.
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>>84379308
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>>84379307
Lucas actually discussed this shortly before Episode 1 was released. At the time it had been 16 years since the last Star Wars movie and Lucas was afraid that the hype and expectations were so ridiculously high that nothing could've lived up to them.
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>>84379259
I'll bite, since he should be the 2nd most discussed director in these threads.

1. Duel
2. Empire of the Sun
3. Minority Report
4. Last Crusade
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark
6. The Color Purple
7. Catch me if you can
8. Amistad
9. Hook
10. Temple of Doom
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>>84379232

Sorry, anon. But it's apparent dated-ness gets to me. I don't deny that it's still a great movie and I appreciate it for what it kicked off. But still, on the whole, most of the movies that came after it are better. To me at least.
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>>84379127
If I could dispute some of this;

>He was able to figure out immediately how Han Solo evaded the Star Destroyer's sensors and how he'd escape.
This, this was good. It's also literally the only good thing Boba ever does.

>He also managed to deduce than Han was going to Bespin, out of all planets in the galaxy, AND to Cloud City, out of all the potential settlements on Bespin.
Anoat Sector is a shithole and the only planet there with proper civilization is Bespin. And as far as I know, Cloud City IS the only settlement on Bespin. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

>he was able to figure it out with enough time to report back to Vader and have both of them set up a trap for him
The Empire being fast isn't really praise for Boba, but rather the Empire. He likely messaged Vader immediately after confirming which direction Solo had gone. (Also, does this confirm that the Slave I is faster than the Falcon? Boba flew it to Cloud City too, and got there before Han did)

>He also did it in such a way to benefit BOTH of his contractors, Vader and Jabba, and essentially double his reward.
I figured this was more coincidence/convenience that Boba lucked out on. Realized Vader was looking for the same guy, and cashed in on it. He knew Vader would allow him to keep Solo too, because he's done jobs for Vader in the past. (The Vader comic)

Also, Boba is lucky he didn't kill Luke in that fight.

>Hah, so this is the kid who blew up the Death Star!
>He struggled like hell, so I killed him!
>His name was Duke Skywalker or something, I don't even remember
>So, Vader, I'm getting paid double for killing him, right?
>Vader?
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>>84379342
I don't care what people say, I loved Hook
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>>84379251
The way you put it makes me think of that as a general Mando trait even though the Fetts aren't Mandos anymore.

Like I read that and Maul smashing Visla's toys one by one came right into my mind.
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>>84379381
I think even Spielberg berated it, yet I like it all the same. It featured some of the best sets I've ever seen, and the acting was God-tier.
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>>84379368
>Also, does this confirm that the Slave I is faster than the Falcon? Boba flew it to Cloud City too, and got there before Han did)
It's kind of a moot point since Slave 1 and the Empire both had the benefit of having working hyperdrives, something the Falcon didn't at the time.
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>>84379420
Shit you're right. Forgot about that.
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>>84379389
Mandos seem to be the crazy "SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN!" militia types of the galaxy, so that makes sense.
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>>84379368
I don't know if Cloud City is the only city on Bespin, but it is a mining colony on a gas giant whose entire atmosphere is made up of an incredibly useful gas. It'd be silly if it was the only one.
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>>84379368
>(Also, does this confirm that the Slave I is faster than the Falcon? Boba flew it to Cloud City too, and got there before Han did)

As far as I know there's nothing to say that he did arrive before the Falcon (or vice versa). Lando only says that 'they' got there before Han did. Now that could be up to how you want to intemperate, but it doesn't necessarily indicate that Boba got there with the Empire. It could mean that the Empire got there beforehand via Boba's tip, and then he caught up to them later at Cloud City. Which to me would be smart in Boba's case if in the event that the Falcon changed course and he needed to phone it in to Vader just in case.
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>>84378948
I think the only differences are that Han and Chewie already found the Rathars in TFA, Finn and Poe race swapped, Rey was Han's daughter, no Starkiller Base, and I don't think Luke was gone since the whole 'Luke Skywalker is a myth' thing started with JJ.
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>>84379472
>the most obvious b8 in /his/tory
>there are people who fell for it in the comments

Jesus Christ
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>>84379522
That's all from the Arndt script though, and we don't know how much of that was based on Lucas's treatment.
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>>84379530
Yeah, I was curious to see if there was any crits for him on youtube. Personally I think his movies are too happy. His best movie is Duel in my opinion. Maybe Third or Jaws as a close second.
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Will I get shit on ITT if I say TFA is my favorite SW film?
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>>84379594
Yes
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>>84379594
Probably.

If Palps is CIA then who's Bane?
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>>84379594
You generally get shit on for having shit taste
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>>84379576
>Personally I think his movies are too happy
There's a certain sentimentality to them, yeah. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's just sappy (personally I wish he'd knock it off with the "bad father" thing, I get why he does it and it's worked well in a lot of his movies but he brings it up so constantly that it's become a cliche).

I think that's why AI didn't work. It was Spielberg picking up the pieces of a project by someone whose tone and style is very different from his own. You can see him trying to things that Kubrick would do but he's clearly outside his comfort zone.
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>>84379576
Well I'm >>84379342 and I agree 100%, Duel is one of the best chase films and one of the best films in the 70's. You could cut the tension with a knife in some scenes.

I'm not a big fan of 3rd and I don't like Jaws at all believe it or not.
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>>84379232
I've watched ANH so much at this point and it's so dated that I probably wouldn't even put it in my top three.
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>>84377905

Palpatine, Vader, Jabba, Maul and Kylo Ren are all great villains.
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>>84379522
Were rathtars a Lucas creation?
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>>84379659
Maul's quickly falling into joke territory, though.
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>>84379633
Actually you're wrong, Kubrick wanted to go full sentimentality in it, believe it or not and Spielberg wanted to cut parts of that shit out, just not everything. It appears AI was a pretty faithful adaptation of what Kubrick wanted.
And just my 2 centavos, I think Spielberg is a better director than Kubrick.

>>84379608
Vader obviously.
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>>84379676
If they were, it likely didn't get beyond "dangerous monsters." He wrote a treatment for Episode 7 and treatments usually don't get into that much detail. No idea if the concept for Han hauling a bunch of monsters started with Lucas, Arndt, or Abrams, but the final design for them is definitely on Abrams since he's the one that approved it.
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>>84379695
Huh, I would've figured it was the opposite. Either way there seems to be a tonal disagreement there.

I'm with you on Kubrick vs Spielberg, though.
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>>84379368
>The Empire being fast isn't really praise for Boba, but rather the Empire.
Are you forgetting Death Squadron split up before leaving the Anoat sector?
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>>84379695
>I think Spielberg is a better director than Kubrick
I'll have to kill you now.
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>>84379762
>I'll have to kill you now.
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>>84379368
>Duke Skywalker
I see what you did there.
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>>84379762
Shit, this ain't /tv/ so you might actually listen.

I think Kubrick never made another great film after Spartacus, but that and Paths of Glory are genuinely 10/10.

>Lolita even hardcore fans can agree was a failure
>strangelove is his only 100% good film after Spartacus, but even in that it gets way too long and the humor sometimes falls completely flat
>2001 had great shots and cuts combined with jarring cuts and shots, also every fucking scene was too long, the acting was wooden at best and the story starts in the 2nd half of he film
>clockwork orange starts off extremely strong, but there's no more steam in it by the hour mark and there's 80 more minutes to go, barely saved by MacDowell
>barry lyndon is probably his worst film, save for the pre-Paths of Glory ones, a chore to watch with a disjointed plot, awful performances all around, lackluster storytelling and characters
>the shining scared me less than ET. Didn't get the point of the book and again, way too long
>FMJ is incredible at the beginning(though that's mostly Ermey), is awful in the 2nd act and by the time it gets to the 3rd I lose interest
>Eyes Wide Shut is his best film since the 60's, great atmosphere and tension, great everything save for somewhat weak Tom Cruise and an awful Nicole Kidman
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>>84379186
Oddly enough, its the rifle that impresses me the most with his look. Like a cross between a knight and a big game hunter. The rest I could care less.

Fuck the missiles, though. I still have flashbacks from Shadows of the Empire.

>>84379220
The same people who would pay that much for an Ahsoka?
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