How batshit insane was Sony's original plans for this?
I'm actually just looking for that piece that says they thought they were going to make 2 billion on one film
>>84374922
And that film they were so confident would make 2 billion? Tobey Maguire Spiderman vs Andrew Garfield Spiderman.
>>84374993
Yeah that. Looking for that email
>>84374097
http://ghostbusters.wikia.com/wiki/Ghostcorps
And apparently they still are totally batshit.
>>84375607
Jesus christ. There won't be anything of my childhood left when they're done.
How can Sony's video game/technology departments be so successful yet their film department is run by literal retards and crazy people?
>>84374097
As batshit insane as WB's current plans for their DC sequels and spin-offs
>>84374097
They wanted to make an all women superhero team-up movie using Spider-Man characters codenamed Glass Ceiling.
>>84376188
I think Sony's were actually a little crazier.
>>84376136
They are giant conglomerate where the separate divisions have not much to do with each other, I guess
I imagine people working on PlayStation internals don't really talk with people working on James Bond movie
>>84375781
You could just watch the first two seasons of Real Ghostbusters again.And beat it to Janine.
They legitimately thought about an Aunt May movie for a second, and entertained the idea of making it a spy movie. So you tell me, OP.
>>84376279
Legit, if they could talk to Fox to a Wolverine movie with Peter parents it would make more sense
>>84376279
>tfw when Sony adapts Mark Millar's masterpiece, Trouble, featuring a young Aunt May being a crazy slut.
>>84376385
>It's a Netflix miniseries in the style of Jessica Jones meets softcore Cinemax porn
>>84375552
>>84374993
it would still make some serious nostalgia bucks, but that was a fucking longshot
>>84376434
>we certainly saved the brand
>>84376421
I'd masturbate to that.
>>84376434
>a woman in charge of grammar
>>84376434
>Doing Carnage before introducing Venom
>Spider-Men with Tobey and Andrew
>ASM 3 entirely animated
>Just return to Spidey 4 altogether
>ASM 4 into a 2 part film
Crazy ideas, senpai. Spider-Men sounds cool though.
>>84376136
They give jobs to their relatives
>>84376310
I don't like the "Peter's parents are spies" plot, but that was a good issue.
>>84376434
how much cocaine was used prior to writing and thinking this was all a great idea?
>>84376434
Andrew Garfield in Civil War probably could have worked desu
Obviously they'd need to edit the scene where Tony meets Peter first time accordingly but at least it would have already established Spider-Man
>>84376434
This was embarrassing to read.
>>84376434
What is this supposed to be?
>>84378571
Leaked email of Sony's plan for ASM franchise
>>84378610
Feel like it was just wrote by someone browsing this board
>>84375607
> The Russo Brothers could have directed a Ghostbusters sequel
>>84376434
This seems ridiculously fake. Regardless of how stupid the grammar, expectations, or anything else are, the biggest issue here is that they're suggesting someone at Sony thought they could negotiate Marvel into giving them Thor.
>>84378738
Sony is JUST that stupid
>>84378738
Nothing fake here. Dunno what rock you where under when sony had their email hacked. You have no idea how aweful these emails are. Hope someone posts one about how great spidey would be with EDM pumping in background.
>>84376136
Cause the tech department is in Japan while theb film division is in America. And Americans are stupid
>>84379134
Link. Again this shit is seems too fake. It's cringe definitely feels 4chan-esque
>>84379207
Where have you been? That was actually one of Amy's better emails.
>>84379314
What I want to know, is why she's still attached to Spider-Man
>>84379328
The fact that she got to the top speaks volumes in the first place. She would still have that position if it weren't for the leaks. They only fired her so the people she insulted would keep working with Sony.
>>84379207
>fake
It's not fake, this really happened
fuckoff newfaggot
>>84374993
that's honestly too brilliant to fail
>>84374993
That would've made great use of the Spider-verse event.
>>84379394
She's fired but still attached to Spider-Man? Why isn't she out on the streets?
>>84381380
Didn't we establish that she is fucking Fiege?
Oh man you can read some of these emails were they're interacting with Feige and you can just tell he wanted to call them all retards.
>>84381441
Post them senpai
>>84376136
this is the same company that funded the prosecution AND the defence during the napster trial.
http://lrmonline.com/news/marvel-and-sony-go-head-to-head-in-these-leaked-emails-regarding-the-amazing-spider-man-2
Based Marvel.
>>84381720
Explain
Amy Pascal also bought the rights to the Zoey Quinn story.
Just putting that out there.
>>84381806
She greenlit the new Ghostbusters
>Zoe Quinn
Who?
>>84381885
Gamergate. You know, the sjw thing /v/ had.
>>84381948
What the fuck is gamergate?
>>84381968
That was a story all about how /v/ got flipped turned upsidedown now I'd like to take a minute because sit down mane, I'll tell you how it wrecked shit for games...
Longstory short, it's something that involved Zoe fucking five guys to give her game a good review, she got outed and it led to a couple of outrage regarding social justice, five guys burgers, harrassment, the divide between two chan boards' /v/idya board, a cute oc, a lot of memes regarding journalism for video games and how feminists are trying to ruin everything.
Think of it as /co/'s Spider-Woman cover controversy only extended to a year and a half with more drama outside of tumblr.
It's an old topic. /qa/ would divulge the info better.
>>84381736
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/marvel-president-wanted-to-burn-the-amazing-spider-man-2s-script-after-a112638
>>84376434
>>84382063
you'd think people who have a yearly income of several hundred thousand dollars, at least, could set aside a couple days and some money to buy an anthology of the characters they're trying to adapt.
is it just me? Or does everyone else look at the shit hollywood pulls and thinks "maybe if you didn't shoehorn a romance plot into every fucking movie you make you could free up 20 minutes so the narrative doesn't feel so fucking crushed. The type of woman who wants to see a romance film is gonna go see a romance film. You're not bringing her into a action block buster by making heartthrob mc ironpecs kiss an actress."
>>84382722
Besides, women looking for romance is probably just content with mild teasing and shirtless scenes.
>>84382780
that too it's [CURRENT YEAR] why don't we put fujoshits in the seat with gay teasing? If you're gonna pander at least change it up a bit.
>>84376434
well there not wrong it is a huge property it should be worth at least 5 billon
>>84382819
Successfully done in Civil War, and there was barely any romance in that. Still had an obligatory kissing scene though.
>>84379134
to be fair spidy would be cool with an edm fight scene
its just she said it in the worst possible way
>>84376136
>How can Sony's video game/technology departments be so successful
It's not even that, their computer, music players, and phones all cratered. It's LITERALLY just the marketing power of the Playstation 4 that helped them claw out from a 75% chance of bankruptcy. And even the playstation brand isn't a "sure thing" as Playstation 3 sales were completely abysmal until they dropped the price to under $300 several years later into the console's life.
The ONLY branch that has been consistently bankable has been their insurance branch.
>>84383152
what the fuck were they thinking with the ps3s original price
>>84383194
The PS2 and PS1's success.
>>84382114
That sounds awful
>>84383194
Their cell processor is what made the PS3 cost so much, and they simply assumed if they sell it at a price that's a little under how much it cost to manufacture a console it would be fine
It was not fine.
>>84382114
Didn't they end up winning in the end though and gaming has bit a little bit better than it was a few years ago because of it?
>>84382130
>>84381736
I love the hyperbole and how overdramatic this pussy is when the movie somehow manages to being critically and audience received better than the last DC and X-Men movie, which is saying a lot.
>>84374097
The fact that they thought an entire Spiderman Cinematic Universe was viable says something about their judgement, imo.
Aside from Spiderman, what other heroes did they have access to? Because it seemed like it wouldn't be much of a universe if all characters and movies were ultimately connected to Spiderman and took place in NYC.
"The Amazing Spiderman" was pretty good, but its sequel was disappointing.
>>84383343
Still a lot of controversies in videogame regarding censorship, so there are no winners and losers in this controversy, only small tastes of victory and tears for both sides.
>>84383343
not really, in terms of user friendliness consoles are in a far worse position than they ever have been. Time was you'd pop in your disk, wait a minute or so and then you could play.
Now the game needs to install, oh and update.
that can take a solid hour. Sometimes two hours or more.
I've seen PC games with less set up.
Oh how about the day 1 patches? Now you can get AAA releases that are literally broken and unplayable for 2 months until they're finally fixed.
No I don't give a fuck how nice the graphics are or how much processing power the Xbone and PS4 boast. they're gaming PCs with less functionality, anemic libraries, and borderline abusive relationships with thier user base.
Steam is only barely better and even then it's only because they have refunds.
>>84377045
But Andrew is shit anon
>>84382063
>I think it is potentially, very dangerous to undermine the significant events of the Raimi trilogy
But by that logic JGL should be in BvS. Who cares if it's a reboot now. Agree with him about not killing Gwen off so soon though.
>>84383659
It's all in the execution
I don't care how fucking stupid it would've been, it'd be nice just to see Tobey play Spider-Man one last time, oh well.
>>84383577
I thought he was pretty charming in the first "Amazing Spiderman".
>>84378663
It's from Wikileaks if you're skeptical.
>>84376434
Even with all the batshit Spidey stuff from the leaked emails, my favorite BY FAR is the Channing Tatum email. Solid fucking gold.
>>84383343
Everything's still awful, but at least the scummiest shitheads and limp-wristed orbiters have outed themselves.
>>84374097
>How batshit insane was Sony's original plans for this?
Three words: Spider-Man Cinematic Universe
>>84381405
Doubtful, unless she is literally fucking Fiege. With a dildo. In the ass.
>>84381380
She's still a producer. Cause Sony doesn't care. They only fired her to help their public image. Not because she's incompetent.
>>84382722
>maybe if you didn't shoehorn a romance plot into every fucking movie you make
B plots make movies work. The problem is that studios think literally and make them actual romances instead of trust relationships which work just as well.
>>84376434
> Dylan O'Brien definite option for new Peter
Or his nemesis Mushface
>>84383659
>But by that logic JGL should be in BvS.
Yes, how dare Alan Fine not take into account something that would happen four years in the future.
>>84376434
Channing Tatum was going to be Venom?
>>84385779
Post it anon
>>84381482
this
>>84383659
Fine was probably just confused by some comments that Arad made that implied the ASM movies were in continuity with the Rami movies
>>84375607
>Principals include Ivan Reitman, Dan Aykroyd, Reitman's longtime Montecito partner Tom Pollock, Ali Bell and Alex Plapinger, and Sony.
No wonder Dan Aykord endorsed the reboot, he fucking soldout
>>84379207
You're either dumb or someone trying to damage control for Sony. Google Sony wikileaks and then use their search engine to find terms.
>>84383659
The difference between Raimi's Spider-Man and Nolan's Batman is that Nolan intended to conclude his Dark Knight films. Raimi was going to do Spider-Man 4. And keep in mind, Spider-Man 3 was not that terrible at the box office the way ASM2 or Fant4stic or Ghost Rider 2 or whatever were. There was no real need for a reboot.
On top of that, like >>84388712 said, Avi Arad and possibly others were saying that ASM1 would take place during the Raimi trilogy.
>>84388413
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/channing-tatums-leaked-email-is-just-astonishing--xJMHUjjVKe
>>84374097
Midnight's Edge has done a good job recapping the history of Spider-Man on film and the depths of Sony's retardation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqMGa4QoqCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNMU0ji2wp8
>>84382063
Reminds me of Kevin Feige's notes for ASM2
>>84391709
Jesus fucking christ, Sony Pictures is legitimately insane. Why did they have such a hard on for a Venom spinoff, anyways? Like to the point of almost sabotaging their gravy train.
>>84392314
Venom's a famous villain and antihero in the Spiderverse. CG monster Spider-Man and symbiote that has all the power and none of the responsibility.
Marketing-wise, that shit would sell but they probably would either make Venom less horrific or adapt Flash-Venom.
>>84392354
This is all true. But still, man it's disheartening to see how far Sony was willing to fuck their staff over just to set up spinoff after spinoff.
Although I guess that wasn't the weirdest part of the story, technically if it wasn't for Kim Jong Un and Seth Rogen, Spidey probably wouldn't have made it in the MCU.
>>84392468
>mfw Harry Osborn stopped the Sony Spider-Man cinematic universe from happening.
>>84383268
It was, even when Gamergate was right (which was often) you could tell that it was basically just the same as a 4chan raid. But "serious".
>>84392733
It was a more accessible raid as video games were a mainstream hobby and thus anyone against whichever views you have on the GGate topic would be met with high ounces of response butthurt and people twisting words to suit their side. It's what happened when /v/ was banned from discussing GGate because of raids and some other chan site tried to siphon disgruntled GGate followers and the rest of the site's anons unaffiliated with the Gate.
>>84383577
Fuck you, I liked him.
>>84392755
It really made me realize that any movement, no matter how right, will always be poison if it starts from hate.
>>84383343
No?
Nowhere near close. Now you can't discuss video games without two groups of reactionary idiots getting down on your throat no matter what.
But whatever this is a >>>/v/ thing. This is about Sony and their Spider Man boner.
>>84392712
>>84392791
Speaking of vidya, surprised the upcoming PS4 exclusive is using something reminiscent of the Civil War costume, specifically the mask and its eyes.
Guess they really are trying to bury the ASM series down the hole.
>>84392816
Oh yeah, it's in the ditch hard. I wouldn't be surprised that even if there's some swappable costumes, anything ASM would be absent while maybe a Raimi-esque suit would be in there.
I'm genuinely interested in that game though, it seems like an honest to god collaboration to not only make a proper product, but also something both rights owners can equally profit from. It's still sad that it took such a shitshow to get the situation to where it is today, but it seems like what's come out of it have been pretty good so far.
Their plans were and are still out of touch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqMGa4QoqCI
>>84391195
>Sold out
More like he had a gun put to his head by Sony.
BTW Paul Feig apparently directed some scenes in Amazing Spider-man..
>>84391195
There's so much messed up stuff behind the scenes.
Ivan got pushed out/replaced before he officially stepped down. Amy Pascal is a scumbag. Funny she got replaced by Tom Rothman who is scum incarne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-6VLuz75yw
Rothman is the same guy who sewed Deadpool's mouth shut. He also greenlit Fantastic Four's reboot. How Sony is going to last under that guy, good luck.
Also, I'm surprised Amy Pascal is still attached to Homecoming. She's toxic.
>>84392314
People on /co/ forget that long before Avi Arad became known as "that crazy producer guy on the Spider-Man films", he and Isaac Perlmutter ran Toy Biz back in the early 90's and the company was very tight with Marvel. In fact it was part of how those two got in control of Marvel after the bankruptcy.
Avi Arad would've noticed that Venom was a super-popular character back then (and actually still is; I've heard from some retailers that Venom back issues and merchandise sells) and certainly be pushing for including the character in the films as much as possible.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0032696/
>Avi is dreaming
>>84392906
>He also greenlit Fantastic Four's reboot. How Sony is going to last under that guy, good luck.
Well the easy answer is comparing Sony and Fox during the time Rothman was in charge of Fox and Pascal was in charge of Sony.
Imagine being Kevin Feige in that e-mail exchange and having to be all like "damn, Amy Pascal, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face. I would totally have sex with you, both for my career and for my own personal pleasure." when all he really wants to do is have Spider-Man back in the Marvel Universe. Like seriously imagine having to be Feige and not only sit in your chair while Amy Pascal flaunts her disgusting sex talk in front of you, the digital medium fully concealing her stretchmarks and leathery skin, and just sit there, call after call, hour after hour, while she perfected her sultry messages. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage on Skype but her haughty attitude as everyone at Sony tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, AMY PASCAL RUNS A COMPANY LIKE *THAT*!? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her mannish fucking gremlin face contort Spider-Man into movies so horrible you didn't even know could exist before that day in the theater. You've been producing nothing but a healthy diet of billion dollar films and critical darlings and later alleged Thor 2s for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Boston. You've never even read anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her stomach as she pleases herself to your email sex talk, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to share Spider-Man with her and revel in her "operaesque" (for that is what she calls them) Spider-Man ideas, the ideas she worked so hard on with Avi Arad in the previous months. And then the Russo Brothers call for a Spider-Man update, and you know you could succeed with any comic book property in this room before Sony could put out an Amazing Spider-Man 3 but you sit there and endure it, because you're fucking Feige. You're not going to let her ruin Spider-Man forever. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
>>84374993
>>84374922
It was 2 billion in total profits, that includes all merchandising and such
>>84376434
I like how she wrote all this crazy shit out about Tobey vs Andrew beating Avatar apparently
But the deal everyone liked the least ended up happening
>>84374993
>Dawn of Arachnids
>>84391612
That really was something excellent, Anon. Thanks for sharing it.
>>84376279
I could only imagine some comedy film with aunt may getting into weird situations
>>84393402
>The secret life of house aunts
>>84393418
>team up movie with Aunt May gathering the moms and aunts of other characters to fight the moms and aunts of the villains
>>84393243
I am so erect right now
>>84383482
>get off muh lawn
You have the indie game scene for your classics and AAA games for the other side of that. We're in a gaming generation where you have the best of both worlds. I'd hate to live in the bubblefuck town you live in with shiternet where it takes an hour for any non-mmo game to update
>>84379207
>He's not aware of the people in power
99% of the people in power don't deserve to be there, they're literally spoiled children/rich brats/royalty types (regardless of not they have royalty) and they wield their power stupidly but with great pride and don't care what anyone else thinks.
It sounds like a stupid child wrote that because that's what their mentality is.
>>84393284
To be fair, they account for licensing deals in these projections.
>>84383343
I mean /v/ is an irredeemable shit hole, the movement is currently run by faggoty assholes jerking each other off, and plenty of review sites have shut down in the time since then and now, but the games are alright I guess, so I guess it's okay.
>>84392770
Doesn't change the fact that he was shit.
The fact they wanted a cinematic universe based just of Spider-man was crazy.
Sure they could have done Venom and Black Cat stand alone films, but no way in hell would a Sinister Six movie make 2 billion.
ASM2 should be the golden example of how NOT to do a cinematic universe. 90% of that movie was pure sequel bait that will never pay off.
>>84395133
>Black Cat stand alone film
Would never have happened. The terrible Catwoman movie would confuse general audiences.
>>84392906
>Also, I'm surprised Amy Pascal is still attached to Homecoming. She's toxic.
Didn't they confirm that Marvel is basically doing all the work on Homecoming and that Sony is merely producing it?
>>84393268
They didn't have the merchandising rights at that time
>>84392868
Please. Aykroyd is a legit idiot that believes in aliens and all kinds of shit. Trust me, I know he gladly sold out. He's the one who pushed the hardest to make Ghostbusters into a huge franchise with cartoons, toys, candy and soda.
>>84395670
That's what I had heard.
>>84395738
>Believing in aliens is weird
Hey, science says that life absolutely has to exist out there. Whether or not sapient life has ever visited us is the big question.
>>84395688
They could still profit off of licensing the brand in partnerships, even though Marvel profitted off of official movie merchandising.
>>84374097
They're still planning on doing Venom.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/spider-man-spinoff-venom-revived-872844
>>84374993
I really think this mail was a fake. This is unbelievable and I doubt someone would have those ideas
>>84383577
His Parker needed work. That's all. Everything else was based.
>>84398866
Check wikileaks, it's there
>>84376434
>In late 2017 female lead film, staring Emma Stone as antagonist Carnage
Why have I never heard anyone mention this? Am I reading this wrong, or were they actually planning on bringing Gwen Stacy back as fucking Carnage?
>>84393243
>alleged Thor 2s
Sony legitimately thought the Spider-Man property was worth 5 billion dollars.
That's almost twice as much as what Disney paid for STAR WARS for Christ's sake.
Are they fucking insane?
>>84399256
It happens in Ultimate Spider-man
>>84399304
That's more than Disney paid for Marvel entirely
>>84399317
Shit, guess I've contributed to "/co/ doesn't read comics"
>>84393243
>Dick status
Muh
>>84376136
Their movie department and video game department are two very different things and their film branch seems to be run by executive to busy snorting coke to give a fuck
