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I don't mind more diversity in comics. I think having more non-white guy heroes can be a good change in pace.

But I absolutely hate the trend of just replacing older heroes with newer, "diverse" identities. Why not create a new, tech-based hero that's also a black woman? Use an issue of Iron Man as a backdoor pilot for her introduction?
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>>84349912
New Luke Cage should be a quadruple amputee, albino 12 y/o girl, that self-identifies as a black man.
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>>84349912
>Why not create a new, tech-based hero that's also a black woman? Use an issue of Iron Man as a backdoor pilot for her introduction?
IS that not what they're doing? She's supposed to be like an apprentice or something right? Tony's not dying or anything.
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The problem is mostly that they didn't use Rhodey's existing black genius teenage niece for this
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Pity they all have the same fucking personality so we're actually having a step back in terms of diversity in story telling.
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>>84349912
Because chaining stupid controversy to stupid controversy makes more money than telling interesting stories.

Last halfway decent Iron Man arc I read was Superior Iron Man, and it got shitcanned due to Secret Wars. Before that? ...Fuck, probably Extremis. And before that you have to start reaching for his classic stories like Demon in a Bottle and Armor Wars, because he spent forever in B-lister hell.
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>>84349912
>Why not create a new, tech-based hero that's also a black woman
Because writers are too incompetent to sell comics based on their skill
They want diversity, but there aren't any good writers left, so they have to introduce new characters based on old ones

But you really shouldn't have a problem with that
There have been tons of heroes who have taken up the mantle of old heroes and had similar powersets, that's been a thing since they introduced a second robin
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>>84349974
Yeah cause oh so many people gave a shit about her. Its not like quality would be any different since Bendis is still the writer.
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>>84349912
I don't get this due to semantics alone. She's not a man so how can she be Iron Man? Even if she wears the same costume, it'd be like Spider-Woman being called Spider-Man. Do they change the name of the comic? If so, is it because they believe she can't hang on her own? That's sexist...or racist...or possibly both.
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>>84349912
The worst part is they already had a black character that would have made for a great replacement Tony should he ever decide to step down as iron man but LOL NOPE LETS RANDOMLY KILL HIM BECAUSE BENDIS WAR.
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>>84349939
You have to be 18 to use this website you know.
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>>84349939

I'd read it. Goddamn. What a concept.

Is she (he) an Inhuman?

>>84349976

>And then it turns out they're all actually the same person, using a shard of the Cosmic Cube
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>>84349996
>Because comic fans are too incompetent to buy comics based on quality
ftfy
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When will we find out Beast has just been a man in a fur suit this whole time
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>>84349912
Or why not trying to put "diverse" characters (like Misty Knight, or Blade) on the A-List?
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>>84350016
Secret identity, man. No one would ever suspect Matt of being daredevil if he put implants in his costume. Pretty genius
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>>84350053
Won't an even robotic voice sound female when she speaks?
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>>84349996
>Because writers are too incompetent to sell comics based on their skill

Pretty much this. There's a reason pretty much every good comic writer drifted off in to other fields. All that's left now is friends-of-friends and other morons who only manage to not destroy the company because there's essentially a stranglehold on the entire concept of "comic book" in America.

I think it would be great to see what would happen were DC and Marvel to both, for a year, say they will not use any pre-existing character or setting, and that the writers and artists they have will need to make new things by themselves.

I wonder how many writers and artists will just make not-Batman and not-Superman, and how many will make a genuinely good original story.

I'm not even exaggerating when I say that most interesting stories being told in comic format in the west, these days, are webcomics.
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>>84349912
why not give the existing black women some fucking focus? Plug the shit out of Storm, Give Misty Knight another book of her own. Let's have a time-travelling Bishop and Shard brother-sister adventure. FUCK.
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>>84350033
>>Because comic fans don't actually buy comics so creators are forced to try to find new demographics
ftfy
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Brand names anon. The only way for minorities to get sales is to piggyback off existing heroes. Milestone tried the original content thing, and failed because whites spoke with their dollars and avoided those comics. A hardware reboot with a black female lead won't sell, but you bet Ironman replaced by one will.
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>>84350077
Why should it? Its not like the art of adding bass is hard to master.
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>>84349912
>create black character
>give her retarded Afro
>give her a ghetto name that is black slang for retarded
>give her big ghetto hoop earning
>make her 15 and dress like a hooker
>SASSY!!! ATTITUDE!!!!

Way to shatter those stereotypes Marvel!
About the only thing more offensive would take a monkey character and turn them into a black person named MOON something
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>>84350079
>I'm not even exaggerating when I say that most interesting stories being told in comic format in the west, these days, are webcomics.
This is so true that Comic publishers, especially the big 2, have started hiring people who make webcomics
Even if they make shitty webcomics, just as long as they are popular
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>>84349974
shes dead senpai
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>>84350080
>Storm, Bishop ,Shard
mutie embargo

>Misty Knight
"Literally who?"
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do you really think a modern day marvel writer could make a new and interesting character?

look at this girls backstory, she's a genius who can build an ironman suit in her classroom dorm. Awesome fantastic, I wonder what her crippling flaw will be?

Doubt it will be alcohol or drug abuse
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>>84350095
But doesn't that defeat the purpose of being a strong, black independent woman if she has to represent herself as male?
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>>84350099
>black slang for retarded
fucking where?
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>>84350016
somewhat related, Spider-Gwen in her own universe is "Spider Woman."

I'm down with a female Stark suit, Pepper Potts in RESCUE armor is cool, especially since she's shown up as such in the Avengers Academy and Marvel Heroes 2016 video games. I don't want this no-name nigress in a Stark suit. That's it. Not a race thing, not a woman thing, I just don't want a new character pretending to be Iron Man. I'm glad Marvel's sales are tanking at the moment.
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>>84350135
Who ever said that was her purpose? Try to be less triggered pham.
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>>84350085
The worst part is that this isn't even an issue in itself. It's that it's all so unimaginative on their part.

They didn't look at what's big with the kids and make something new based on that, they just took something from the demographic they want and put it in to their own hole, and it comes across as desperate as it really is.

If they said "Iron Man isn't selling, so we're replacing it with..." and it was a totally new IP with a whole new cast in a whole new world, detached from the old comic, I really wouldn't mind.

I'd actually be pretty interested.

But we know what this is going to be: the same stuff as always, because it always is.
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>>84350135
Depends on if you see Iron Man as a male superhero, a suit of armor, or a human shaped weapon
because if it's the last two, why bother
she can just call herself something different if she really wants
she's not presenting as a male just by wearing iron man armor, even if it does look like a male, it's not as if she would add boob and wider hip joints even though it would be purely cosmetic
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>>84350125
>look at this guys backstory, he's a genius who can build a webshooters and advanced dissolving elastic in his bedroom
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>>84350145
unless her name is pronounced Reye Reye
Ree Ree is "urban" slang for retarded in the Chicago area
like Cray Cray is slang for crazy
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>>84350125
It worked for Kamala (who is arguably a better character than Carol).

But hey you know what they say about broken clocks...
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>>84350193
Well, Chicago needs to be walled off anyway.
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>>84350125
>marvel female character
>marvel BLACK character
>flaw

not on my fucking watch
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>>84349912
Because Bendis is writing a character who is an insert for his adopted daughter.

It's very much like Carlie Cooper in Spider-Man, a new "love interest" who was widely assumed to be Joe Quesada's daughter.
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>>84350162
I am not triggered, I am just not sure what the point of diversity is if you are going to hide that diversity from the world? Worthwhile discussion to have I think.
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>>84350104
The worst part is that they never do it right.

They just put them on to superheroes.

It's like, if Marvel announced that Evan Dahm was going to be writing Spider-Man, I wouldn't give a shit, as much as I love Rice Boy.
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>>84350187
thats not peters backstory, his is he gets bit by a a radioactive spider
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>>84350125
>I wonder what her crippling flaw will be?

3 kids from 3 different dads?
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>>84350224
No superhero is in costume all the time dingus. No reader is looking at spider-man and thinking "I wonder if he's white under there". Who gives a shit?
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>>84350193
I've literally never heard that and it's probably not actually used very often
I don't even know where you got that from
Riri is often a nickname for people named Rianna, Rhiannon, Patricia, or any other female name with a "ree" sound in it
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>>84350247
Also what made him interesting and lasting was his need to look after his elderly aunt between his superhero-ing.
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>>84349912
>Use an issue of Iron Man as a backdoor pilot for her introduction?

Because then when that book fails its not because of readers not caring about diversity, its because new IPs don't sell well.

by making her Iron Man and using that title to tell her story, its guaranteeing some level of sales that a new title won't have.
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>>84350204
Kamala is a notable exception (to be fair, you doesn't need much effort to be better than Carol pre-space taskforce commander).
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>>84350204
>(who is arguably a better character than Carol
>"Let's make a paki girl have Reed Richard's powers without having to get cosmic ray'd in space, and have Medusa, Carol, Wolverine, Spidey and Captain America all mentor her back-to-fucking back for no reason other than she's our token muslim female"

I bet you enjoy reading fanfiction.net too, you tasteless shiteater.
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>>84350273
>No reader is looking at spider-man and thinking "I wonder if he's white under there"
>Who gives a shit?
you're kidding right?
have you not been online in the past 3 years?
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>>84350247
>look at this guys backstory, he's a genius who can build a webshooters and advanced dissolving elastic in his bedroom who gets bit by a radioactive spider

>>84350276
>Aunt May is the most interesting part of Spider-man
Come the fuck on.
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>>84350254
>3 different dads?
in their own community, their term for it is "baby-daddy."
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>>84350307
Well why do YOU give a shit? If you don't then you can stop pretending like you do.
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>>84350176
Doesn't the name "Iron Man" imply a male superhero. Since they are already making her the antithesis of Tony they should make her an unabashed arms dealer and call her Irony
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>>84350309
>Aunt May is the most interesting part of Spider-man

You missed my point entirely. It was actually quite dramatic how much you missed it. In many years great sonnets will be wrote, and performed to applauding crowds, about how much you missed the point.

Well done, Sir. Well done.
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>>84350273
So why not just call her Iron Woman? Or Black Iron or Shaniqua?
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>>84350344
>If you don't then you can stop pretending like you do.
I'm not saying I do
I'm saying other people do, because we still have threads like this regularly

>>84350357
Only if you think of Iron Man as a male hero, like I said
If you think of iron man as a suit of armor or a weapon personified, then it's not a problem
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>>84350274
Surely hearer of all thing if you have not heard it surely it has never been used
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>>84350193
>Ree Ree is "urban" slang for retarded in the Chicago area

fucking Carlos Mencia used to use that.
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>>84350397
>If you think of iron man as a suit of armor or a weapon personified, then it's not a problem

"Halo is a pretty cool guy."
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>>84350362
If you just mean his personal life then just fucking say that asshole.

>>84350381
I don't know. We're still sorely lacking details on this matter. Maybe Tony was jealous about two or three Spider-men hanging around.
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>>84350309
the webshooters are not a big part of peters character, sometimes the don't even exist. Why are you comparing them to ironman whos whole power is based on the suit?
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>>84349912

Oh look the Diversity train has arrived

>the ride never ends
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>>84350381
>not Iron Shorty wit dah forty
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>>84350362
>continuing to ramble on with this poster instead of clarifying your point and moving the conversation forward

you did not win this exchange, you merely ran it into the ground with no survivors.
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>>84349992

The thing about Iron Man is that he really doesn't have many good solo stories. it's always the same three or four arcs: Demon in a Bottle, Armor Wars, Extremis, maybe Enter the Mandarin, but that's it. He's always been most prominent when part of a team or event, and ever since Civil War, he's been kind of the designated villain for any hero vs hero conflict.
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>>84349912
Because it's not about representing other cultures, or trying to tell new stories.
It's an attack on the so-called establishment by trying to tear down what the majority has accomplished.

And the people who push this crap aren't even so called "PoCs"...they're just white people with massive levels of white guilt.

Ironically, pulling this stunt over and over again implies that minorities aren't good enough to succeed on their own, and the only way for people to know about them is by piggybacking off of established white heroes.
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>>84350281
Surely new IPs don't sell well because readers have been conditioned against them for decades by the big 2 offering relatively few new IPs. What creator with half a brain cell would simply give a new character with commercial potential to Marvel or DC just to get next to nothing from it's exploitation in terms of financial benefit or artistic control? The current diversity shitshow is due to the fact that it's not unreasonable to expect the world presented in comics reflects the demographics of the world outside but there are no new (or very few) characters that reflect those demographics. In an ideal world the old characters would be intact and stand should to shoulder on the racks with established characters from the last 20-30 years. These newer characters would be from a variety of backgrounds (male honkies included) and it would have happened organically. The current shambles is as much a creator rights issue as it is a pile of SJW idiocy.
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>>84350455
>it's always the same three or four arcs

Comics in a nut shell.
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>>84350441
In all those mechanical web shooters vs natural webbing everyone acts like its the most important think ever.
And I'm comparing them cause they're directly comparable situations. Two geniuses who built stuff with crap.
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>>84350403
if only one person in this thread, or I guess in this reply chain, has heard of it, it's probably not at all common
just looking it up on urban dictionary, it looks like maybe 200 people have interacted with the entry whereas on an entry that it known to be popular, 100,000 people have interacted with that entry

the fact that Riri is still a name that people use and have should show you how uncommon your definition is

Just using google, "reeree" with the context of "retard" yields about 2500 results
compared to "riri" as a "name", that's nothing
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>>84350449
Oh no he di-n't
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The only question that matters is "who will actually pay for this comic".
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>>84350415
And we all know how popular, influential, and successful he is
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>>84350543
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>>84350037

"The A-list" refers to how much a character sells, not how prominent they are.

Okay, granted they kind of go hand in hand, but if you published a Misty Knight solo comic, it wouldn't sell nearly as much as, say, Thor. Building a less popular or supporting character up to a higher tier requires time and effort Marvel doesn't want to expend. Then again, you could always put them in a movie nowadays, too, I suppose.
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What did she meant by this?
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>>84350575
I think that's the point though. They really don't do much to push NEW characters.

New settings as well.

I just just find it annoying that they keep doing "new" things, yet it's the same masks in the same places, doing the same things.
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>>84350891
YOU'RE
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I don't mind a character change but if I don't like this new ironman and like the old one then I'm labeled a sexist, racist.
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>>84350018

Rhodes had already replaced Tomy decades ago for while. Rhodes was Irom Man during the original Secret War. Spent half the time hitting on Monic Rambeau
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>>84350031
>inhuman
And subhuman
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>>84349912
>Use an issue of Iron Man as a backdoor pilot for her introduction?
That's exactly what this is. They've even said in the interview that she's not going to be Iron Man for long, and is just using the name while she tries to think of something better.

She'll be "Iron Man" for a year (also remember that she's not the only "Iron Man" as Doom is going to be taking up the legacy too), then Tony will come back while she gets her own identity and spins off.

No one would give a shit about her if it wasn't for this legacy bullshit. Have them be a legacy for a year, then if they had a good reception, spin them off with their own identity.

Eric Masterson didn't become Thunderstrike until after he'd been Thor. Rhodey didn't become War Machine until after he'd been Iron Man.
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>>84351013
>and is just using the name while she tries to think of something better.

You mean while they try and think of something better?
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>>84349968
How else do you think they're going to end Civil War? Tony will be to Riri what Friday is to Tony
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>>84350254
You're shit posting but that is an interesting concept.
>teen mom reverse engineers iron man armour to get out of poverty. Has to deal with shitty inner-city drama while being a mother and being tony starks protégé
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They could have easily made this Iron Man Beyond, and make it something like Bubblegum Crisis (complete with awesome 80s synth rock), but NOOOOOOOO.

That would be too fun.
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seems like the only winning play for comics is to continually nostalgia jerk its readers forever. don't develop, just rehash past arcs over and over. no wonder manga is so much better.
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>>84349912
WE
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>>84351267
W U Z
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>>84351306
A young boy
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>>84350895

Because no one wants to take risks anymore. That's a problem with the entertainment industry as a whole, though. Everything has to be safe and familiar or it might not sell and that's bad news for the bottom line.
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>>84351319
DANANANANANANANAANANANAAA
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>>84351068
Well yes, this is Bendis afterall.
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>>84351123

I feel like /pol/ should be the free space in all bingo cards nowadays considering they seem to be everywhere and try to turn everything into a race/sex/ideology-centered argument.
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>>84349912
Because cómic book are run by shitheads and pussbags.
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>why not create a new hero
They already do that.

Why are Marvelfags so allergic to legacies?
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>>84351408
>cómic
Pot calling the kettle black.
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You seem obsessed with this woman, OPenis.
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>>84350274


Refer to Clerks: the animated series, they say ree ree all the time.
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So this is obviously pandering at this point, but it's just fair to give things the benefit of the doubt. If it's good when it comes out then, whatever.

Now some people here need to fuck off back to /pol/, but, is there any other legitimate reason to hate this? is the writer in charge shit or something like that? Sorry I don't really follow cape comics anymore.
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>>84351588
This. We should all buy it and see what it's like.
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Man, I know /co/'s not a hivemind and all that, but seriously, are you guys THAT lacking in self-awareness that you don't realize these are the exact same arguments we heard against Miles Morales five years ago?

In 2011, Spider-Man was Marvel's big cash cow, so he was the one that got hit with the "reimagining" stick, but it wasn't the white genocide /co/ predicted it would be. Peter Parker didn't go anywhere, because Marvel will NEVER permanently kill off a flagship character. The two characters now exist simultaneously. They've both got fans. No one really cares.

It's 2016 now, and Iron Man has dethroned Spider-Man as the popular Marvel character, thanks in large part to the MCU. He's getting the same treatment Spider-Man did in 2011. Tony isn't going anywhere (not for long, anyway). Riri's not replacing anyone.

If you seriously think this isn't going to play out the EXACT SAME way it did back then, I don't know what to tell you.
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>>84351588

>is the writer in charge shit or something like that

Yes.

Bendis is guilty of a number of things, including but not limited to disrespect for continuity, unapologetic waifuism, and walls of circular dialogue.
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>>84349912
>Why not create a new, tech-based hero that's also a black woman? Use an issue of Iron Man as a backdoor pilot for her introduction?
Simply because it'll never catch up to the same level Iron Man has.

Also you won't find a single writer in today's world who'll give the Big Two their good ideas. Not after all the bullshit they pulled against the old writers, especially Kirby.
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>>84351806
>walls of circular dialogue.

Walls of circular dialogue?
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>>84350204
It also worked for Robbie Reyes, but that didn't pay off when it came to sales.

People don't want good characters. They want controversy and MRA tears or something like that.

And what better way to create buzz than "The character you love is being replaced and you can't criticize otherwise you are a bigot."

Not that I don't like Riri. With a good artist and Bendis' grasp on teenage characters I'm more than willing to give her a chance, even though her story is going to be a mess.
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>>84351960
>>walls of circular dialogue.
>Walls of circular dialogue?

Circular dialogue you say?
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>>84349912

Being Lila Rhodes is suffering right now. Her Mom was a crack addict and was killed by gang violence. Helped Rhodey upgrade the suit and was his special little niece, almost like a daughter. She lived with her grandparents until Rhodey was being attacked with political slander. She teams up with her grandpa to protect Rhodey and show the truth but it causes her Grandpa to die. Now her favorite uncle is dead and this girl from nowhere takes both the Iron Man title and retires the War Machine title as well. YFW she looks upon the news and sees her Uncle's funeral and this girl acting wacky/zany in a kitbased version of her uncle's suit only to inadvertently destroy it being wacky and discard it to be Iron Man like it was nothing.
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>>84351806
>endis is guilty of a number of things, including but not limited to disrespect for continuity, unapologetic waifuism, and walls of circular dialogue.
None of that has ever bothered me when it came to his writing. Since 1: Continuity in cape comics is always going to be fucked up. If I was reading these books for consistency I'd had dropped as soon as 15.
2. Bendis' tone is consistent even though he forgets shit in his own books and his editors don't even mention it.
3. The man circular dialogue is just funny at this point. I don't know what kind of autist gets so mad about it.
4. Unapologetic waifuism? Meh. I'm on 4chan. I see this shit all day erryday.
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>>84350125
she is black. its hard to be a black female genious in a world run by racist white cismen
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I want to draw porn or at least cheesecake of Riri but I cannot think of a good pose or situation.

Give me suggestions, /co/
Nothing racist.
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>>84352097
>nothing racist

Well, here I was going to request her being Tony's maid, calling him massa as she struggles to contain her soaking arousal.
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>>84350945
>Monic Rambeau

You mean that one black chick who used to be an Avenger and would remind everyone that she used to be part of that organization?
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>>84351799
This is made extra stupid by the fact that everyone seems to be ignoring that Riri isn't even the only Iron Man legacy we're getting. If you're of the opinion that only straight white men are allowed to be Iron Man, well guess what: a straight white man is still going to be Iron Man.

They've already said Riri is only going to be IM temporarily until she gets her own name, and there's no way they'll keep Doom as Iron Man for longer than that, so give it a year, two tops, and Tony will be back in the driving seat. In the meantime, you get both a black female iron man and a straight white male iron man.
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>>84351891
>Also you won't find a single writer in today's world who'll give the Big Two their good ideas
Exactly this.
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>>84349912
Friend there's atleast 15 of these threads in the archive

Is /co/ not tired of talking about it? THIS BENDIS WANTS

ARE YOU GONNA GIVE THE BENIS WHAT HE WANTS?!
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>>84352204

try reading comics other than Nextwave
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>>84351799
>Peter Parker didn't go anywhere
MY favorite Peter DID, though. I couldn't care less for 616 Peter or for the race of a character and I gave Miles a 5 year chance.
And yet they took away Ultimate Peter for me. Followed by the most dissapointing stories published in Ultimate Spider-man because everytime Miles was going to do something Marvel decided to ruin its pacing with events or Bendis wasted a huge narrative opportunity.

So yeah, Miles did take away something I really loved since a young teenager. I hope the same doesn't happen to Daredevil. Especially since I started reading him because of what some black kids would start reading Miles: Identification, considering he's a catholic.

I don't mind these new characters, I'm fond to some of them, but when they take something as important to me as Ultimate Peter I cannot help but being mad, sad and dissapointed.
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>>84349968
Pretty much this. Kamala Khan hasn't replaced Carol by any stretch.
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>>84352260
Damn, Big Two. After all this time they still won't treat their creators like human beings, huh?
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>>84349912
I agree. I think she will take over as Iron Man, while Stark either focuses on his company, or acts as a backup/support. I do hate that "her brain is a bit better and smarter than Tony's" thing. Duh she built an iron man armor young, that's how reverse engineering works. Well, that plus I'm a sweaty try-hard.
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>>84351994
yeah exactly, dialogue that's circular
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>>84353502
You mean, like, dialogue that goes in circles?
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>>84350289
What happened to Richards by the way?

Is he MIA ala Rightclops? Or was he shafted with the 1610 version?
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>>84352375
Calling her Ms. Marvel and forcing a rename of Carol to Captain Marvel was a deliberate, meticulous decision to make with major legal ramifications across books, television and video games.

Is it okay for Kamala Khan to exist? Of course, I'm not a fan but if there's a market for girl paki Mr. Fantastic to get her hand held by all the big name characters, that's fine. Taking Carol's codename to boost initial interest was fucking horseshit. That was a dagger in the back of Carol Danvers. You don't get to ride coattails like that and expect people to just forget it happened. It's a fuck-you to X-Men & Rogue canon, it's a fuck you to Avengers and Kree canon, it's just a big stupid fucking mess that shouldn't have happened.
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>>84353822
current comics I'm not sure. During Secret Wars when the universes all collapsed, 616 and Ultimate Reed Richards both escaped their universes dying to go after Doom, I think there might have been a third or fourth one too. The Reeds are autistic cockroaches, I'm sure he's just inna woods doing science.
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>>84353880
IIRC she was originally going to be called Ms. Fantastic. But I guess they were trying to avoid giving Fox more characters to use.
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>>84350307
Wasn't that a gag once? Parker pretended to be black under his mask so he could call Jameson a racist for always attacking him in the press?
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>>84351178
>Iron Man Beyond with Old Man Tony helping a teenager who stole his suit fight crime
That sounds fun.
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>>84353952
>>84353822
Reed became God of the Marvel Multiverse.
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>>84354823
>>84351178
>Tony has to help his protégé take out the same dystopian corporates that men like Tony created

I support that.
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>>84354823
>it's another "kid skips working for old man to go to a party with under-age alcohol available" episode
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>>84349974
It would be the same but Bendis wants the flory and he rather have his OC be the popular one.

He already got the praise for Miles and is using Riri so people forgive him for offing Rhodey.

He's also a gimmicky as fuck write, you can tell he was prepping Riri to be War Machine but I guess Iron Man is the better goal and the one that garnered more publicity.
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Black Teen Girl Ironman?

I'm sure there are lots of black female writers who would LOVE to write Ironma-

Marvel: We have white guys for that
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>>84355123
>white

I'm pretty sure (((Bendis))) isn't white.
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>>84355258
no beaners
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>>84350204

Kamala Khan worked because she was a good character first and a Paki girl second. The reason this usually fails is because not only is the above reversed but its painfully fucking obvious that its shitty pandering
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>>84351979
Ditto, and it's not like they are going to give up on the older characters either, the "progressive" people are already bitching about Marvel having a Steve Rogers Cap and Thor Odinson comic running concurrently with the SamCap and Whor comics.

There were also people bitching because of Peter still being Spider-Man when Miles was integrated in 616 and how Peter sells more because he's in the ASM title.

Also people forget that Bendis has two Iron Man comics, for all we know Riri will just be starring on Invincible Iron Man and Tony is going to International, Marvel is just making a big deal out of this.

>>84350121
Won't be a literally who after the Luke Cage Netflox show, same with Colleen after Iron Fist happens.
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>>84349912
Because they're still trying to sell it on brand recognition, you stupid jizz wizard. Two birds, one stone.

It literally doesn't fucking matter. For a group of people who like to bitch about the ebil ESS-JAY-DOUBLEYEWS and make triggered jokes, you fucking babies sure do like throw hissyfits over the dumbest shit.

Fucking kill yourselves.
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>>84350357
I dunno why is SHEzow a dude.
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>>84355106

Funny part is Luke Cage is already his OC self-insert mary sue lead character
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>>84355123
No shit, the reason why this is happening is so that Bendis can keep fellating himself.

>>84355258
He is a white Jew but throws the Jew card and the "I have black kids" so he can be accepted by the SJWs.
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>>84355386
Which he paired with his OC and now Luke is eternally saddled with that character (or at least until Bendis dies or something).
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>>84352354
Oh boy

>being catholic
>being religious
>Not liking Business Tycoon Peter

Jesus the faggotry in this post is radioactive.
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>>84352385
One name anon.

Alan Moore.
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>>84349912
She looks so stereotypical, it looks racist
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>>84356878
m'lady
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>>84356978
You mean that old wizard /co/ likes to shit on because he's dropping truth bombs like a motherfucker and they don't want to listen because they are too busy sucking corporate dick?
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>>84355625
do the blogger know spidermans secret identity? i don't read any spiderman comics but do how does people know spiderman is black? is hes identity public?
or do they just asume he is because of the black costume
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>>84358299
He saw his skin through his ripped costume so she's obsessed about Spider-man being brown while Miles goes all "why? fuck off"
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>>84358321
She*
I meant she
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>>84349912

I've been thinking about it, and I honestly don't mind at all any more.

Most of these heroes have been around since the 60's and 70's. Maybe it's time for them to retire and pass the torch, so to speak.
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>>84355625
But Miles, Black Spider-man is all you'll ever be known for!

At least, until you finally disappear
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>>84357625
Exactly. Because of what DC did to his properties, every other Artist has grown wary of what happens when you bring a "fresh new idea" to the big two. It get's galvanized and bastardized beyond your original vision and you have to deal with it.

Hence why all the indie artists either make webcomics or go to Image.
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>>84358299
His costume got torn up while he was using Cap's shield and spamming his venom blast to solo a demon from hell that singlehandedly beat the Avengers plus the original Spider-Man.

It sounds bad when I say it like that.
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