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Sound advice
>it's a "clones heroically fight to the end despite being born to suffer" episode
>>84328457
>Boba Fett escapes the Sarlaac
>has no idea empire is wrekt
>Act I
>ship is stolen and needs to get it back
>taken while in Sarlaac
>fights space niggers and gets ship back
>hearing rumours empire is in disarray
>meets mysterious dude who tells him where luke is so he can get revenge
>Act II
>Fett goes to planet with this dude, says he is not fond of jedi either and they can help each other
>Boba's help in exchange for info on Luke
>Planet is sprawling imperial base
>Boba's armor is taken for "repairs"
>approached by high ranking officials in his room
>they want him to make a clone army; because he is an unaltered clone of his father they can do so
>want to restore Empire to greatness with Grand Army of Republic
>Boba hates he is a clone and refuses; they then trap him
>Proceeds to escape the planet and get armor back via espioage/stealth
>Knows Slave I has been moved to an SD in orbit
>steals shuttle to get ship back
>Act 3
>fights stormies aboard SD to get to Slave I
>ends up captured and brought to leader of base
>Carnor Jax, former imperial guard, proclaimed himself emperor
>says manu warlords fighting it out in Empire, wants to restore it to glory and genuinely wants peace
>Boba can help make amends for the sins of his father and himself
>together they can find Luke and end the Jedi
>pottery
>Boba says fuck that and blows up controls
>SD going down and Carnor chases Boba through it as he tries to get to hangar
>gets to ship and Carnor confronts him
>some force abilities and has a force pike; Boba says he has killed Jedi and this will be easy
>Jax lying on floor rekt, says there is something far worse than him in the shattered ranks of the empire; something far more sinister than Palpatine that will rise to power unless stopped
>Boba keks, kills him and flies off
END
>>84341949
Rip Commander Thorn, we hardly knew thee
>>84342127
I'd imagine Boba getting out of the Sarlaac all dazed and confused and then it turns into The Hangover with bounty hunters and pirates and stuff.
>>84342127
Nah. Boba stays in the Sarlacc. Leave him to rot there so he can stop shitting on his dad's legacy.
Also;
>they want him to make a clone army; because he is an unaltered clone of his father they can do so
Can't be done. Unaltered or not, he's still a clone. You can't clone a clone and not have/expect defects. It's like xeroxing something that was xeroxed. Keep doing it and it's going to be more fucked up. Best clones/copies are always of the original source. Clones from Boba are more or less going to turn out in varying degrees of 99.
>Jax lying on floor rekt, says there is something far worse than him in the shattered ranks of the empire; something far more sinister than Palpatine that will rise to power unless stopped
> something far more sinister than Palpatine
I know you're trying to refer to Snoke. But that's just bullshit. Nothing's worse than the Dark Lord of the Sith.
>>84342266
>Can't be done
This is not xeroxing. This is Kamino cloning. Star Wars has some advanced technology to the point I'm sure the Kaminoians would iron out every kink. Matter of fact, why wouldn't they create a genetic super soldier perfect in everyday? Maybe too expensive. Even for them.
>>84342127
I like how there's no actual story and it's just a bunch of shit happening
Rey a best
Clone Wars guide is done.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12p8_m1o7U5k7jnHdtoLNPFglcJ59-jNeV0NyJT-PxL0/edit?usp=sharing
>>84342701
Why are there multiple episodes duplicated in column D?
>>84342701
>Clone cadets episodes listed as random
wtf
>>84342127
>>84342514
I actually kind of like that idea. A movie where Boba Fett is just this dumb asshole that's like "Aww fuck I want me fuckin ship."
>>84342501
That seems like it would require a more elaborate and slower process than the mass production the Kaminoans used.
>>84342701
>Slaves of the Republic only 2 stars
>Clone episodes not their own category
Other than solid, but both of those are necessary changes.
>>84342880
Whoops. I'll fix it tomorrow when I'm more awake.
>>84342957
Idk how to really categorize that episode.
>>84342984
And now I do. I'll make those changes tomorrow morning.
>>84342701
No guides, watch everything.
>>84342701
Wait, some of the Kanan comic was originally part of Clone Wars?
>>84343137
Most of the Kanan comic takes place DURING The Clone Wars.
>>84343185
I mean the actual TV show, did they intend to introduce him as a padawan?
>>84343209
No, Kanan was created purely for Rebels, nothing in his story was something intended for TCW.
The closest thing there is that Depa Billaba was set to appear in the background of an episode, but that's it.
>>84342261
I'd like to see something similar to the Jodo Kast story, where Boba crawls out but finds that in his absence some asshole has started pretending to be him. He sets out to find this guy, but he also has to come to terms with the fact that his time in the Sarlacc has left him with considerable muscle and even nerve damage from which he'll never fully recover, but he's set on making sure that his (and by extension his father's) legacy remains in his hands. He sets out for what may be his last hunt, to find this imposter and settle the score.
He and the imposter have a Sergio Leone-style duel at the end- the imposter is killed, though he also fatally wounds Boba. He dies with the satisfaction that he did so under his own terms, having protected the Fett legacy, and with the satisfaction of knowing that whoever becomes the new "best bounty hunter" will live without knowing whether he would've stacked up against Boba, never having the opportunity to directly challenge him (sort of like how Cad Bane never had the satisfaction of seeing whether he could beat Jango in a straight fight).
Also featuring Dengar and Bossk as supporting characters.
>>84343655
I don't hate this
>>84343655
I think something like this with a western vibe would work for Boba. I doubt it would go over well if Boba dies at the end, but a story like that really only works if he dies.
>>84343655
That has potential.
>>84343655
Something like this would be great. But we're not going to get that, we're going to get a generic action movie.
>>84343655
>Sarlacc has left him with considerable muscle and even nerve damage from which he'll never fully recover
I like this idea because one of the things that bothered me about Boba returning from the Sarlacc in the EU was that it never really made an impact on him. There's stories about him in the Sarlacc, stories about him getting out and having to recover... but after that, he just goes back to normal and the ordeal had barely any physical or psychological effect on him despite having been there for weeks or months. He may as well have just been locked in a closet for a few days for all the impact it had on him. He comes back and he's right back to being the same old Boba Fett.
>>84342127
I just want an Edge of Tomorrow/Groundhog day plot device. No matter what he does he can't escape the Sarlaac
>>84345754
That's what made Maul's return work. At the beginning it was dumb, he just comes back and goes "yes, REVEENENNNNGGNENNGNEGNE on KENOHHHHBEEEE" and that's boring.
Then season five hits and his arc is less about revenge on Obi-Wan and more about trying to carve out a place for himself after having his life goal and promised position taken from him. At this point, his being defeated by Obi-Wan has a greater impact beyond just "you beat me and cut me in half, I have robot legs now and want revenge", it completely derailed his life and he can't just pick up where he left off because his master moved on and replaced him and now sees him as a threat.
This is also why Maul returning in Rebels doesn't work- he didn't "die" again so this isn't a resurrection cheat, but at the same time it's now been 15 years since the Clone Wars and Maul still has the same story, the same goals, and the same methods. Nothing changed. It's just "welp, here's Maul again!" just like what happened with Boba in legends and it's boring.
ded thred
>>84346429
The other day I tried doing an in thread /qst/ to keep threads going during down time.
No one participated. I lost a lot of confidence in that attempt at revival.
>>84346429
It's Friday.
>>84346496
I'm still astounded that little Google front page animation apparently triggered a shitload of people
>>84341700
How long could Kirito last in the Star Wars universe? Could he get through Order 66?
>>84346560
He's Kirito, he'd kill Palpatine himself and literally every female character in the galaxy would be hungry for his cock.
Yes, even the one you're thinking about.
>>84346560
>How long could Kirito last in the Star Wars universe? Could he get through Order 66?
If we're being realistic he wouldn't last long.
But Kirito is fueled by bad writing, so he'd be completely unstoppable.
>>84346572
>No, Ahsoka! Nooo!
>>84346590
>The Ahsoka Novel is now 400 pages of Ahsoka crying about how Kirito won't ever notice her
>>84346556
It doesn't take much to trigger the alt-right. They're as bad as SJWs.
>>84346556
Why wouldn't it?
>>84346659
Back to /pol/ with you
>>84346673
Don't have a response? Use memes
>>84346659
I'm not really seeing the problem. It's a bunch of little doodles that don't represent specific people. The only people who would care are the "b-but white genocide!" morons.
>>84346496
>>84346556
>>84346655
>>84346659
>>84346673
>>84346700
>>84346722
All of you take this shit elsewhere.
>>84346749
You're not even trying
Holy shit
>>84346496
>>84346556
>>84346655
>>84346659
>>84346673
>>84346700
>>84346722
>>84346733
It's offensive and doesn't represent reality, it undermines people's hard work. It's like how Dr. Matt Taylor's shirt offended people so instead of talking about the Rosetta mission people were talking about some dude's shirt.
>>84347733
Fuck off already, no one cares faggot.
Would it be wrong to say this is all that happens in Aftermath?
>Captain Wedge Antillies is captured outside of Akiva by Imperial officer Rae Salone and is rescued by Rebel forces. On the surface of the planet, the Rebels fight against the Empire. After resolving the revolt Rae is promoted. Meanwhile, the Kashyyyk, the beginning of a revolution led by Han Solo and Chewbacca begins.
What do you guys think ofStar Wars?
>>84348680
It's ok.
>>84348680
Shit
Don't mention it here again
>>84348680
>Star Wars
>>84348680
>Star Wars
>>84348680
I had a dream that Rogue One came out and sucked.
Please tell me my dream won't be a reality.
>>84349540
I'm posting from the future.
I never saw the movie because I'm not that much into Star Wars but I can tell you that my girlfriend is a lying, cheating whore.
Hope that clears things up for you.
>>84349540
You're dreamcouldbecome reality.
>>84349540
Your dream won't be a reality.
>>84348680
It was better when they weren't ashamed of the shit they did in the past. The EU, the prequels, Boba Fett.
You can't expect something to stay consistently gold all the time without finding some degree of rot.
>>84349540
That depends. Did you like TFA? If so, you'll probably like rouge one.
>>84343655
>Also featuring Dengar and Bossk as supporting characters.
>and Bossk as supporting characters.
>Bossk
You realize Bossk died in RoTJ, right?
>>84350026
What does /swco/ think of Fanboys anyway?
>>84347914
Throw in a mysterious dark side cult that may or may not be the Knights of Ren, but they do nothing other than obtain Vader's Lightsaber.
And Rae is with an unnamed Admiral on the last SSD.
And Boba's armor was found by Jawa's and sold to someone unknown, and yeah, that's it.
>>84349540
I had a dream of having sex with an asian milf and then I cummed irl for the first time no lie
>>84342501
>This is not xeroxing.
It's highly comparable. For every clone cloned from a clone, the genetic sequence breaks down or deforms. So yeah, It kinda is.
> Star Wars has some advanced technology to the point I'm sure the Kaminoians would iron out every kink
Tell that to 99. You try to clone Boba, THIS is what you'll get. Only potentially worse as mental retardation would most certainly be an expected side effect. Boba is an unaltered clone, but is still a clone. And by that alone he can never be a host source.
>>84350345
Pretty good movie
>ywn wreck Kristen Bell
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/sci-fi-fantasy/chuck-wendigs-star-wars-aftermath-life-debt-reflects-a-diverse-galaxy/
Life Debt spoilers:
>Han's absence looms over the book like Luke's in TFA
>Vader fanboys/girls start getting violent and the NR has to deal with it
>More Sloane as she gains more Imperial power
Overall this review isn't bad since it doesn't paint Aftermath in a pure positive light, and it even brings up some of the comics and books that already came out to help some points along.
>>84350339
Shut your stinkin' mouth!
![Shaak-Ti[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/5esbjet.png "Shaak-Ti[1].png")
http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/07/star-wars-weekly-social-buzz-14.html
>On Shaak Ti:
I made it boys, I'm famous now
>>84351120
Now that you have his attention, ask about the fate of the Wookiee Jam Crew
>>84351116
I don't like it either, anon. But Bossk is nothing but a burned crispy lizard corpse in the middle of the desert next to a giant toothed sphincter.
>>84351120
>tfw she must have made the Holocron and then just waited like a bitch for her death while Jedi and children around her fought to the death
>didn't even become a Force Ghost or anything, she just gave up and meditated knowing the Order was about to become extinct.
>She was one of few people who may have stood a chance, may have helped save lives.
>She could have at least tried to get the children out of the Temple.
>Maybe even could have taken Anakin with Cin Drallig andInky
Fuck this. Waifu officially D R O P P E D.
First time ever that I actually think the EU version of a character was better.And we're never getting Rambo Ti, half-naked on a Rancor, ever again.
>>84351320
She had the added problem of the clones turning against her people, though. She was the Jedi in charge of training the clones and seeing them go off to battle and what not. That probably had a big psychological effect on her to the point where she might not have wanted to try and fight off the clones just to get to Anakin.
>>84351305
His bio on Starwars.com says nothin' about it, unlike Boba, so I'm gonna say he's still alive. And he deserves to live, after all!
What do the prequel fanboys here think about Jar Jar Binks?
>>84351403
>His bio on Starwars.com says nothin' about it
It use to. It's how I found out he died when Jabba's sail barge blew. It's where my image in >>84350339 came from.
>>84351459
Could have been executed better. WAS executed better in TCW. Toning down the accent and pratfalls for the sake of pratfalls would have made him far more bearable in TPM. I actually quite like the scene of him fucking around during the droid battle for some reason.
That said I don't particularly ride the hate wagon, he's eyerolling at worst and we wouldn't have the greatest star wars comic of all time without him.
>>84351459
Messa thinkin yousa're goin to has a bombad timen if yousa can't come to yousa ownen conclusions.
He was fine in TCW, and his episodes werefunand as the series go on they even getbetter.
>>84351459
He's a good loyal Imperial citizen that deserves all his praise for getting Palpatine into power while no other Senator dared to do so.
>>84351540
http://www.starwars.com/databank/bossk
I've been looking all over the web archive of that page, but couldn't find any reference to him dying. If it was actually there, that line must have only been there for a short time before it was removed, either due to it being an error or otherwise.
>>84351459
He's pretty good in Clone Wars.
Not annoying and actually funny.
>>84351545
>and we wouldn't have the greatest star wars comic of all time without him.
George R. Binks?
>>84351816
>No aliens
>>84351834
>Scarif
Well I know where I'm from in the Star Wars universe now.
>>84351876
LSG DUN GOOFED BIG TIME NAMING THE PLANET SCARIF
DONT GOOGLE IT I REPEAT DONT GOOGLE IT
HOLY SHIT
Or do google it if you really want to know, I need someone to be traumatized with
>>84351922
What, scarification? That bothers you so much?
>>84351922
Seems apt
>>84351941
Last image
And again, Scarif gives me some messed up shit on google images...
>>84351947
Wounds in general are eww to me
What are those Rogue One pics? A leak or something?
>>84351922
>>84351949
Was Ren vs. Rey a good lightsaber fight? How does it rank up against the other ones?
>>84351971
http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/07/preview-images-from-upcoming-rogue-one-book-reveal-new-planet-and-ship-details.html
>>84351684
Didn't think of it earlier, but USW alludes to him being dead. Though granted, it doesn't say specifically that he's dead. and Pablo himself has said that USW has a number of errors. But even then, if you watch RoTJ you can see Bossk on board the sail barge.
Literally the last of Bossk's entry in USW
>Bossk meets up with Fett at Jabba's palace, where the Falcon's captain, Han Solo, is hanging on the wall, imprisoned in carbonite. Both Bounty Hunters accompany Jabba's retinue aboard a sail barge to witness the execution of Han and the team of rebels who had tried to rescue him. The barge is destroyed when Han and his friends fight back.
Twi-leks for no reason.
>>84352019
Bossk's a clever asshole, I'm sure he escaped before it blew up.
>>84351987
Thanks.
>>84351975
I loved the lightsaber fight. Like, you can see that Kylo is more experienced than Finn and Rey, but he's also handicapped due to his injury. You can see how Rey uses her lightsaber like a staff and you can see Finn swinging it around like a baseball bat. I liked how realistic the choreography was.
I just wish that Kylo had won because it would have given Rey a motivation to improve her skills in the next movie.
>>84350407
Cool, thanks. I was trying to add a summary for Aftermath for my cousin and I to go over, but there's so much pointless shit to sift through. Thanks again, you're the man cAnon
>>84352073
I want to believe that. Really, I do. But as far as I see it there's more evidence to suggest he's dead than alive.
>>84351975
I liked the TFA fight because of how brutal it was.
My top 5 right now (not including TCW and Rebels) would be:
1.) Luke vs Vader in TESB
2.) Rey and Finn vs Kylo in TFA
3.) Luke vs Vader in ROTJ
4.) Anakin vs Obi Wan in ROTS
5.) Anakin vs Dooku in ROTS
>>84351804
Bingo.
>>84351975
It was boring. Literally didn't care about edgelord or mary sue. Even if I forget that it just felt silly. The fight gets broken up by an earthquake of all things.
>>84352347
Trust in the sexy lizard!
![Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.S02E01.2009.BluRay.1080p.AC3.x264.mkv_snapshot_03.43_[2016.07.08_11.06.49].png](https://i.imgur.com/tnBxfzG.jpg "Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.S02E01.2009.BluRay.1080p.AC3.x264.mkv_snapshot_03.43_[2016.07.08_11.06.49].png")
>>84352408
>It's an anon still hasn't figured out to take a proper screenshot with the correct aspect ration episode.
I took this right now with MPC. Come on now.
>>84352526
I'd like to, anon. But I'm a man of facts. Not faith.
>>84352408
>calls Rey a Mary Sue
>while posting Ahsoka picture
wew lad
>>84352640
I know how to do it. I just don't care.>>84352701
Leave my waifu alone. I also wanted to see them murder the Jedi. That's just bullshit.
>>84352701
This. Either both of them are Sue's or none of them are.
>>84352408
>Literally didn't care about edgelord or mary sue.
Don't cut yourself on that edge.
![Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.S02E01.2009.BluRay.1080p.AC3.x264.mkv_snapshot_05.08_[2016.07.08_11.17.12].png](https://i.imgur.com/4G9I2Wq.jpg "Star.Wars.The.Clone.Wars.S02E01.2009.BluRay.1080p.AC3.x264.mkv_snapshot_05.08_[2016.07.08_11.17.12].png")
>>84352844
You can do whatever you like, but that's some omega laziness you have. You set the settings up literally once, then you just click a button. I'd hate to see your playback settings.
>>84351975
Possibly the worst fight for me (don't kill me). It's not because of how Rey beat Ren. Believe me, how they managed to make Ren injured so he wouldn't overpower Rey was a good idea.
For one they looked like they were struggling to hold the lightsaber as if they were heavy as fuck. They were just swinging them about like kids who haven't held a stick before. The fight was just extremely slow for some reason. It also showed how flawed how Ren's saber was because he couldn't really swing it about and had to be extra careful when handling it. The choreography wasn't that great either. I would expected Rey to show off her skills or something and not just running backwards.
The setting was also shit. I don't know why but you can't easily tell it was filmed in a small warehouse and turns out they did just that. It just felt cramped or something. If you have watched any fight/action scene set in a forest from other films you would understand where I'm coming from. The way the camera was following Ren when he was following Rey felt like I was watching a tv budget fight scene. The concept art looked better.
I don't expect the fight to be as anywhere as near epic as this scene but they could've done a better job with it. The earthquake splitting them apart was a nice touch though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ToztqqDcaY
>>84349540
What ifit's just a movie
WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE SIT AT THE DOOR INSTEAD OF PUSHING INTO THE ROOM WHEN IT'S BEING TAKEN ON SABOTAGE
>>84352929
I change the settings depending if it's a small video or if it's full hd, so technically you have to change it regularly.
>>84351975
In retrospect, it was okay. My only issues were with the characters, not the fight itself. Then again, I'm a little biased towards the lightsaber duels from the OT. (I was never really big on the flashy acrobatics from the prequel fights.)
![Star.Wars.Rebels.S01E12.Call.to.Action.1080p.WEBRip.AAC2.0.H.264-HERO.mkv_snapshot_08.03_[2016.07.08_11.26.18].png](https://i.imgur.com/xae9fRn.jpg "Star.Wars.Rebels.S01E12.Call.to.Action.1080p.WEBRip.AAC2.0.H.264-HERO.mkv_snapshot_08.03_[2016.07.08_11.26.18].png")
>>84353040
Or you can just keep the video's aspect ration and let MPC handle the rest.
>>84352701
I don't exactly follow. What point are you trying to make?
>>84352864
>Ahsoka was a Jedi. She had Jedi training. She can do mind-tricks and super cool "force stuff".
>Rey is a scavenger with no Jedi training. She can do mind-tricks and super cool "force stuff".
Who is the mary sue here?
>>84353127
Okay, I think I got it now.
>>84353211
So you don't even know what a Mary Sue is. That explains a lot.
>>84353323
Explain to me why both (rey and ahsoka) are mary sues.
>>84352984
>For one they looked like they were struggling to hold the lightsaber as if they were heavy as fuck.
>The fight was just extremely slow for some reason.
This.
Their duel was so clunky. I don't think JJ understood/understands how lightsabers work.
It looked like they were swinging some really heavy hammers.
>It also showed how flawed how Ren's saber was because he couldn't really swing it about and had to be extra careful when handling it
Agreed. In practice the crossguard blades are the stupidest things. Had they been metal, fine, but now they're out of plasma so one touch and you've burnt yourself.
>>84353323
>Google search mary sue
>first character to show up is Rey
>>84353482
The times, they are a changing...
>>84352701
I'm hoping that Rey becomes like Ahsoka, hated at her introduction for their Mary Sue traits, but grow flaws and develop their characters into something much more likeable.
>>84352984
>>84353388
Uh, have you ever seen the OT? Lightsabers are supposed to be heavy.
>>84353137
Ahsoka was very widely hated and considered a Mary Sue when she was first introduced. It took years for her to become the beloved character she is now.
>>84353601
I hated Ahsoka because she was kinda annoying and cheesy, not because she was "too perfect" or whatever.
She became a lot better when the show improved. People still tend to forget how bad the first TCW season was.
>>84353482
It's pretty accurate desu. hp just solves all his problems with magic, hermione is an idealized version of the author, Bella is the author and rey is... rey.
>>84353629
Circumstances were different in the OT though. Most of Kenobi and Vader's fight was offscreen. And both times Luke fought Vader was because he was novice as hell. And Vader was toying with Luke on Bespin and on the second Death Star he was holding back 'cause he was conflicted and wasn't thinking straight. PT or OT, lightsabers work the exact same and are light as fuck.
>>84353684
That's the same reason why I hope Episode VIII and IX fixes the problem Rey has. She is at her best with her friendship with Finn and is prone to screwing up, she didn't go full Mary Sue until she got kidnapped by Kylo Ren.
If you were the writer or director of the next two Star Wars episodes, what would you do with Rey?
>>84353712
Isn't the prime indicator of a Mary Sue being an author self-insert?
Who is Rey an insert of?
>>84353763
Not sure, but Luke was the self insert for Lucas, so that counts towards him.
>>84353756
>If you were the writer or director of the next two Star Wars episodes, what would you do with Rey?
I've thought about this a lot and I think the best thing to do is to have Rey murder Kylo Ren in cold blood in Episode VIII. What seems like a Kylo Ren redemption arc is actually a Rey redemption arc.
>>84353763
J.J?
>>84353763
Katie McGrath, JJ's wife, I mean she does look kind of like Rey?
>>84353763
Kathleen Kennedy? She's the one that always goes on about muh stronk female characters, after all.
>>84353763
Nah, it's a big warning sign but that's not the only thing.
>>84353763
The audience. The people who demand that a project is crap if it doesn't feature an MC who is either female, a POC, or some other form of culturally different thing.
>>84353801
That would be actually a good twist, Rey could turn to the dark side after finding out the dark truth behind her past and killing Kylo Ren in cold blood, taking his place as Snoke's apprentice and leader of the Knights of Ren, taking the name Kira Ren.
>>84353629
Yes, I've noticed that they looked a bit heavy but that's probably because of what they used back then. But even so Luke handled his lightsaber easily like it was nothing, even got a hit on Vader a bunch of times. I'm pretty convinced they only used those heavy lightsabers in the TFA just for this set photo because you know how everyone went crazy over "practical effects" were going to be used in the film. Even though they were going to CGI them anyway.
>>84353683
But how? I remember people hating Ahsoka but she's hardly a Mary Sue.
>>84353629
Do these sabers look heavy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ_j3s5xj8I
The first 15 seconds are them just swinging them like crazy at each other.
The only weight in a saber is the hilt.
And this>>84353737
>Circumstances were different in the OT though
First duel in ANH doesn't count, it's two old men pointing sticks at each other.
As Anon stated, in ESB Vader don't even want to kill Luke and Luke is shit.
And as my video shows, in ROTJ their duel is fluent and snappy. Not slow and clunky like in TFA.
>>84353763
All "little girls who are such big Star Wars fans".
>>84353381
>>84353763
They are Mary Sues because they are author/audience wish fulfillments. Then again, so were Luke and Anakin.
Ahsoka is Filoni's mouthpiece. I mean she's literally the only Jedi who seems to understand what's wrongs with the Jedi Order when even Obi Wan doesn't question them really.
Then she becomes a badass "grey Jedi" who technically isn't a "real" Jedi. If you'd ask any Star Wars fan what kind of Jedi they would like to be, they would most likely answer with "a grey Jedi who isn't part of the Order".
Rey was created as a female power fantasy for young women.
>>84353629
Relatively. Padme even comments on how Anakin's was heavier than she thought it'd be. But that only really applies to the hilt. the blade has no weight which is why it's so difficult and suicidal for those untrained to wield. If you can't track where the blade is going, chances are you're going to cut yourself up.
>>84353850
I think that was more "We want the Hunger Games audience money" thinking than "stronk female character" speaking
>>84353987
What the fuck? The TFA duel was much faster than the ROTJ duel. Just watch Kylo twirling his lightsaber like in the prequels to show off.
>>84354041
So for first time users, I can definitely understand why they'd swing it around like a club or battle hammer.
I have to say though, for a novice to the weapon, Finn put on a much better performance with it than Rey
>>84354139
Finn was most likely used to those kind of melee weapons since he probably had to train how to beat up some rebels.
Rey just used it like she would use her staff.
>>84354007
>>84354026
>Rey was created as a female power fantasy for young women.
Is that really a bad thing though? Before, all female fans had were Leia and Padme, neither of whom were Jedi. A few months ago, I was in a restaurant and saw a little girl, no older than 7, wearing a Rey t-shirt. It kinda warmed my heart a little bit even if I don't think Rey is the best character.
>>84353737
>And both times Luke fought Vader was because he was novice as hell. And Vader was toying with Luke on Bespin and on the second Death Star he was holding back 'cause he was conflicted and wasn't thinking straight.
Sound a lot like the Finn/Kylo duel.
>>84354221
Ye.
>The Mary Sue is an absolutely perfect OC. They usually have bad pasts, never get angry, be skilled in every skill, have magical powers, be over powered, and never loses. They usually have the rarest abilities and are soooo unique. (Not at all).
There are plenty great role models in fiction, a mary sue ain't one of them.
>>84353756
>If you were the writer or director of the next two Star Wars episodes, what would you do with Rey?
No dark side shenanigans. That really wouldn't fit Rey's optimistic personality.
Rey should just face some hard obstacles and fail. It would also be great for her to get a real goal apart from finding her family because no matter if Luke is her or father or not, she has already found a new family that cares about her in Luke, Leia, Finn and Poe.
>>84354221
You can create a "power fantasy" and not have them be a fucking terrible character.
>>84354221
It's absolutely not a bad thing if you aren't a /pol/tard. However, it doesn't make her character more interesting.
>>84353756
Rey, riding on a wave of huge confidence, should charge into a fiasco she can't win and Finn should die to save her after her failure.
I feel that way Rey is humbled and flaws are showed.
>>84354410
>Finn should die to develop Rey's character
>>84354221
Yes.
If it cheapens the character.
Enough about Rey. How should Luke die in episode VIII?
>>84354326
>she has already found a new family that cares about her in Luke, Leia, Finn and Poe.
Implying Luke isn't going to murder her and eat her because he has fuckall to eat on that island
>>84354563
>Snoke brutally kills the Knights of Ren while Kylo isn't around
>Kylo finds their bodies and assumes that Luke is the one who killed his brothers
>Goes on a rampage and murders Luke before he finds out that Snoke betrayed and manipulated him
>>84354563
He pulls the same shit Yoda does
>welp, I'm tired, better get to bed
>oh hey, Rey came back, sup Rey
>your Jedi training came very far, I'm very proud
>you have a question for me? about your parents?
>uhhh
>uuuhhhhhhh
>YEAH YOU KNOW WHAT I FORGOT TO TELL YOU I'M ACTUALLY DYING
>oh boy look how old and weak I am
>"There... is... another... Rey..."
>croak
>joins the other ghosts
>Obi-Wan asks what the fuck he was talking about with the other Rey crap
>"I dunno felt like the right thing to say"
>>84354563
I don't exactly want the trilogy to be about mad kids chasing each other to get revenge. It would get to repetitive if Ren ends up stabbing Luke to death. I want him to die peacefully just like Yoda after teaching Rey at least.
>people think Luke will die
He's going to steamroll Snoke and bitchboi. Fuck Rey in the ass and call it a day.
>>84354563
He destroys the entire First Order fleet using THE FORCE™ and dies from force exhaustion or something.
>>84354563
I'd rather he not die, because then we're left with Rey being the one to start the new Jedi
>>84354566
Chewie is on board and has all the Wookie-Cookies Luke want.
>>84354563He won't
So I have a question for hardcore Star Wars nerds: Is Kylo Ren the new legitimate "owner" of Chewie now that Han is dead? I mean life debts are still inherited in the new canon, right?
>>84354874
The new movies are literally just repeating the original trilogy with new characters.
Han was the new Obi-wan. Luke is the new Yoda.
>>84355065
Nice meme, but Maz is already the new Yoda + Lando.
>>84355094
Honestly I think they're going to struggle with finding things for Maz to do. As it was she was barely useful in TFA and even got left behind because they realized there was nothing for her to do on D'Qar. Now that we have Luke, her whole "wise older figure with Force knowledge" thing becomes redundant.
>>84355326
Not if she sticks around with Finn and the new female character. They could have some wacky adventures together while Poe leads the Resistance and Rey learns about Kylo's tragic past or something.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2016/07/08/maz-kanata-star-wars-aftermath-life-debt-exclusive-excerpt/86839668/
Fan favorite orange Yoda is going to be in Life Debt.
>>84355487
>Kylo's tragic past or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fF1ZSNTtBQ
>>84354041
>Padme even comments on how Anakin's was heavier than she thought it'd be
>>84355516
Well we still don't know why exactly Kylo turned to the dark side and what his actual goal is. I'm sure Luke will tell Rey about it, so we might get another flashback.
>>84354974
That just means Mark Hamill isn't going to die on set, which really, he doesn't have the authority to say with 100% confidence.
>>84355504
Maz a cute
>>84341700
How is the Han Solo comic?
>>84355504
Maz looks more like ET than Yoda.
>>84355594
I don't know. In my opinion it doesn't work at all. There's a reason why they say storytelling is all about conflict. Having a weak villain that's not even a threat isn't exactly great storytelling.
>>84355594
>Well we still don't know why exactly Kylo turned to the dark side and what his actual goal is
He turned to be like grandpa! And to finish what grandpa started! And he did this because... uh.
Because grandpa! That's a reason, right?
>>84355702
How would giving Kylo a past and a reason to be evil make him a weaker villain? They really have to explain or show his fall in the next movie or else he can't be a tragic villain which he clearly is supposed to be.
>>84355803
Did the prequels flesh out this guy?
>>84355504
yay...
>>84355837
Yes
>>84355504
Eh, I wasn't going to read it anyway. I was just going to wait for someone to summarize the important parts.
>>84355837
Yes.
>>84355837
Not enough, I kinda think that was the biggest flaw of the prequels.
>>84355837
I'm going to go out on a tangent here; The Force Awakens cheats with Kylo Ren.
Because it assumes we saw the prequels, so we know the whole arc for a Jedi falling to the Dark Side. Without
>>84355837
>>84355914
-being informed of Anakin's arc, Kylo is a rather empty villain.
>>84355837
>Likes
Podracing
>Dislikes
Sand
I understand Vaber now.
>>84350630
You're wrong.
>>84356053
kek
>>84355914
>>84355934
Not really, because there wouldn't be enough time to show Kylo's fall AND Rey's story in the same trilogy. So they will instead show us how he turned by giving Rey another vision or soemthing like that. Then Kylo and Rey will meet and he will tell her what happened to him in order to sway her to the dark side. I think you can do that without wasting time by just having Rey represent the audience.
>>84351849
>dropship and troop transport
Sounds cool. I wonder if Star wars commander will add it
>>84355914
I think you're giving them too much credit. I doubt they put that much thought into it and expected that because you knew Vader fell to the dark side, even if you didn't watch how he did it, that you'd accept that Kylo did too. It doesn't provide any particular reason for it, beyond "I want to be like my grandfather/Snoke told me to be evil" which is kind of flimsy, but it's basically just what we learned about Vader in the OT: Vader was seduced by the power of the dark side and by the Emperor. The prequels give us more nuance and clarify that it wasn't as clear-cut as "I want power" but going by the lens of the OT, that's all we learn. Similarly, TFA just presents Kylo as someone who wants to be powerful like his grandfather and we learn no other reason. It doesn't expect us to even really question why he went from a good Jedi student to a dark side powermonger, it just wants us to accept it. If Kylo were a basic villain this would be fine, but there's elements of tragedy there that aren't really touched on. He's presented as tragic and struggles with his decision but we never know why he made these decisions to begin with. The movie wants to have a tragic character but not actually flesh him out, and thinks by treating him like the new Vader that's good enough.
It's sort of like what they did with Hosnian Prime, where the destruction is treated with great tragic dressing than Alderaan (shots of the victims watching it about to happen, sad music, etc) but we're never given any reason to care about them. They're random nobodies on a planet that won't even be named until later in the movie, but the movie wants it to be tragic. They want the audience to feel sympathy without having earned it.
>>84356068
You sure showed him, soldier.
>>84350630
Not the same guy, but
Cloning makes an exact copy I think, with all the same genes and DNA 100% intact, so you should be able to make a clone from another clone.
Then again, it's Star Wars, so almost anything goes.
>>84355504
I guess this will be where Han meets her for the first time?
>>84355837
I think he lost alot more flesh than he gained in the prequels, anon-kun
Did somebody say "Flesh"?
>>84356362
THE SINGULARITY ENGINE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9JPF3pn5O4
>>84350345
I liked it.
>>84356221
>with all the same genes and DNA 100% intact
It isn't. The gene sequence breaks down. It's fine though if you're cloning from an original host source because the genetic degeneration isn't very drastic. But if you clone from a clone who will, no matter what, always be 99%, at best, you're gonna constantly be getting less of a perfect result. Making a copy from a copy will always be more distorted than the last. That's just how genetics work.
>Cloning makes an exact copy I think
It doesn't. But it's closer than say what you would get through regular procreation and having some really dominant genes. Though with procreation, you get to have the other side/parent's genetics, no matter how dominant or recessive they'd be, to fill in the gaps/errors of the other parent.
So yeah. Any clone made from Boba will always be more flawed on the genetic level than any clone of Jango.
Now if say; Boba had a natural born kid, or a kid with a genetic doner from some woman. And then had that kid cloned a million times, that'd be fine because that kid wouldn't be subject to clone degeneration in their genetic makeup no matter how small it'd be.
>>84356322
It always bugged me that Darth Vader would fall for someone like Padme. I mean, there's so many things that the prequels got wrong but honestly, meeting his love when was like 9 years old is just hilarious. They really had no connection whatsoever. Not to mention how it's played out. I'm not sure why romance took such a big role in the movies when you have Sheev and a gigantic war going on. It's like...
>Do you want to watch really bad romance between Darth Vader and Padme?
>Or
>Do you want to watch the galactic war and the fall of the Jedi?
The prequels goes like this
>Episode 1
>Sith exists! Uh oh!
>I have a bad feeling like this
>Episode 2
>Sith exists! Uh oh!
>Romance!
>Discovery of the clone army!
>War!
>Suddenly they get married?...
Episode 3
>Finally we get to the fuckhuge war that's... suddenly ending
>"Vader was seduced by the dark side of the force"
>Hey Anakin, I sorta knew a guy that knew how to stop people from dying.
>THE END
>>84356648
kek.
I find this akin to Randal's explanation of the LoTR trilogy.
>>84355504
>That excerpt
Christ, the writing quality definitely has not improved since the first book.
>>84356781
Why should it? The only ones that didn't like the first one were haters and homophobes! The writing was perfect and had no reason to change! How can you improve something that's already flawless? Master author Chuck Wendig has given us a sublime entry into the Star Wars canon, a book that stands head and shoulders above all other Star Wars books and surpasses even the movies in scope and sheer artistic vision!
>>84356362
>We have eternity to know your flesh!
>>84356853
I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm, but it's hard to tell over the internet, especially considering how many people are actually that stupid. Please tell me this is sarcasm.
>>84356498
You're applying real world cloning to fucking star wars when they have bacta that can regrow fucking organs like kidneys and livers.
I think it's safe to say the Kamino cloning technique is nearly perfect. 99 is a very different subject. And whose to say the Kaminos arent looking at Jangos blood sample for DNA and making new strands from scratch?
>>84356928
I mean, they actually say that in the episode. They're stretching Jango's material thin.
>>84356899
It's pretty obvious sarcasm. It's laid on quite thick.
>>84356648
>Ididntacutallywatchthemovies.avi
When was the last time you saw any of the prequels? Especially in succession from each other? That's not what happens, bro.
>>84356221
Yeah, TCW already confirmed that they can't just keep cloning the clones. They didn't get into the specifics, but they did point out that they need to use whatever genetic material they got from Jango and it was starting to run thin, hence Lama Su telling Shaak Ti that they needed to find a new clone donor.
>>84356967
Which episode? I'm not saying your wrong but I want to see. Because that's pants on head retarded.
>we can regrow organs and make biological chips
>cant artificially create DNA even though we have the tech for it
Come to think of it, a lot of technology in Star Wars is used stupidly. You could make cheap droids like T-1000's and have artificial intelligence that rivals clones but they dont do it. Fuck it, they could make nano viruses and wipe out entire systems too.
>>84356979
Given the use of coolpalpatine.jpg and total "prequels were dumb!" attitude I'm going to guess this is a Plinkettfag.
>>84357091
Is regrowing body parts and organs with bacta even canon?
>>84356985
This was all a scheme to bankrupt the republic. Lama Su is a lying bitch
>>84355837
Yes. He had some forced soap opera love scenes with Padme with her showing half of her sexy-ass titties and her back showing. Then they rolled around in the grass ans shit, rode a stupid-looking space gondola, and Anakin exclaimed the benefits of a Fascist dictatorship!
Oh, and he slaughtered a bunch of women and children "like animals" (more correctly, they are "savages", not animals, kind of like real-life Arabs), and she was totally okay with it.
>>84356979
Why would anyone lie about having watch the Star Wars movies... in a thread dedicated to Star Wars?
>>84356498
Actually it will always be less than the original with Clone Troopers because they modified the Clone Troopers genetics. Only Boba was direct duplication from Jango.
Now that said, it's not like Kamino should need to copy from a clone. After all we know they have the Fett genome coded and in their database from the episode where Fives was investigating embryos for signs of Tup's "anomaly". And since we know they can perform genetic manipulation and even manufacture their own designer genes they don't NEED a living tissue sample from Jango to clone him. They can manufacture a new DNA strand from scratch just from their records. Because if they produce an all new gene that doesn't exist in nature they surely can build one based on Fett's genetic blueprints in their computers. Moreover even if a clone does have slight genetic aberrations since the Kaminoans have the database records for all of their clones genomic data they can just correct it manually by swapping out the aberrant genes for new ones to re-conform to the one in their records.
>>84357123
But why would Lama Su do that? If the Republic goes bankrupt, then Kamino stops getting money. That's all nonsense unless...
Oh shit Lama Su is an accelerationist who wants the galaxy to fall apart! This is madness!
>>84356928
>>84356967
99 was from a batch that was made while Jango resided on Kamino. I think you guys give too much credit to the Kaminoans. If they were as good as everyone has unrightfully hyped them to be, flawed specimens like 99 wouldn't have been made or would've been fixed in the early embryo stages.
Is Kaminoan cloning perfect? Obviously not. It's certainly better than what we're capable of doing, and they're said to be the among the best in the field. Though how can you say it's perfect when we've never seen anyone else do it in the SW universe? Saying it's perfect I think is unfair given that we've nothing else to measure their prowess to apart from real world counterparts.
>>84357140
You'd be surprised. We've gotten people here who have admitted to never having watched anything Star Wars but still tried to argue about it.
Usually they're here to spout memes.
>>84357248
Memes?
>>84357120
Yes, read Lost Stars and see the Kanan comic.In Lost Stars, Ciena has to spend about a year in recovery for her injuries during Endor. She gets her major organs permanently damaged and has to have them regrown.
>>84356985
That didn't even make sense and was a dropped plot point. Why didn't it make sense? Because they said that about Echo and the rest of Domino Squad, however based on their age alone they were among the "units on the way" Obi-Wan was told about. In other words they were created/born a decade before Jango died. Now how did their Jango Juice run so thin when they specifically kept him on hand as they made new clones, all those babies in tanks we saw. Domino Squad was, at most, among the clones we saw eating in AOTCs but probably older (we argue a bit about how the actor portraying the teen clones don't quite look like Temuera).
Even if we consider the idea that they were talking about needing to accept even inferior members of Jango's batch because they couldn't crate new clones, that's silly because even if they got a new donor it would still be ten years before even accelerated aging would get them combat ready. I seriously doubt they were expecting the Clone Wars to last so long those baby clones would have to be sent to any front lines against droids. Even the three years they fought nearly beggared the galaxy.
>>84357248
But I didn't say anything that was wrong.
>>84357216The Muuns control the Republic. they're trying to achieve a new world order led by an evil Muun. you'll see
>>84357200
>And since we know they can perform genetic manipulation and even manufacture their own designer genes they don't NEED a living tissue sample from Jango to clone him.
Except they do though. They outright said their more recently produced batches were more problematic because the Kaminoans had to keep drawing from their last sample from Jango sparsely in order to be able to keep making more. To keep making more (efficiently), they needed to collect regular samples from him. Like what >>84356967 mentioned.
>They're stretching Jango's material thin.
>>84357129
Where the fuck's my medicine? Do you want a pizza roll?
>>84357347
Whether or not it makes sense doesn't matter. It's still canon. If you're looking to make scientific sense out of things in Star Wars, you're only going to give yourself a headache.
>>84357246
>flawed specimens like 99 wouldn't have been made or would've been fixed in the early embryo stages.
That's a huge assumption. The Kaminoans are business people. Why assume they'd terminate obviously flawed clones when they can just be repurposed. No sense in wasting materials when they can always use another janitor. They also seem to study aberrant clones. Sometimes the mutations prove beneficial. Did 99's? Not physically but you never know.
I'd actually hazard that the fact that 99 was in such a physical state instead of having him surgically corrected proves that they wish to see how even failed clones perform. It's also entirely possible that one of 99s purposes was as a way to scare clone cadets that if they "fail" they'll end up like him.
>>84357444
Who is looking for a scientific explanation? It's all about consistency within the world as they present it, anon. Whether it IS canon or not, it's a dropped plot point that's never come up again very probably because they realized it made no sense.
This isn't about trying to figure out what the hell Mortis was, this is an instance where the dialogue of characters doesn't match the logic of the situation as presented elsewhere in canon. This is where canon is at odds with canon. Now in instances such as this when characters talking is matched against the far more indisputable nature of how the clones are created and how long it takes them to mature even under accelerated aging the dialogue is suspect. Either they didn't mean what they seemed to mean or they were misspeaking.
No matter how you try to deny it Domino Squad's members were born years before Jango died so their ill-performance owes absolutely nothing to Jango's genes being "stretched".
>>84357416
I knew we shouldn't have elected Muuns to the position of sheriff!
>>84357436
>AARRRRGGGHHHH!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du0buC_H0CQ
>>84357576
No, it's cool, we got 'em all
>>84357129
This entire chart proves why Plinkett didn't understand Anakin as a character.
>creepy comments
They weren't and were never implied to be. Padme is very impressed with Anakin's compliments. Did people really not see Padme holding back from him? She's eyeing Anakin up like a meal but she has the mask of professionalism. After his rant, she is completely understanding and finds herself in his position only she has a better grasp of control over it instead of Anakin. The deleted scenes really highlight this and I wish they were never cut. Padme's family starts commenting on their flirtatious attitudes and advances.
>supports fascism
He doesn't. He was commenting that the system was deeply corrupted and maybe things should change. Then he starts mocking Padme. The scene ends with them laughing hysterically about the conversation. It's like he wasn't watching the movie just making a comment.
>megolo rant
He IS the Chosen One meant to bring balance to the Force. He's not wrong its destiny he's suppose to be a powerful Jedi. But he admits he's failing as a person and Jedi to the person he loves. She understands him.
>>84353801
>Luke fucks up again
Yes please.
>>84351459
I love him actually.
Because he's the fool, and he's a great character that only gets better the more you watch and know about him.
>Clumbsy, but his influence leads to a lasting alliance between the Naboo and the Gungans
>Becomes the representative of his people to the galactic republic
>Saved his people from seperatist scheming
>Always comes through for his friends and companions
>helped finalize the creation of the clone army which became a force for good (only until the end)
>is the lover of a queen
And despite being an imperial official, he actually remained quite popular with the people of Naboo.
>>84357458
>Why assume they'd terminate obviously flawed clones
I wasn't. I meant 'flawed specimens like 99 wouldn't have been made' as in that their cloning was so spot on that errors just wouldn't have occurred. Which obviously isn't the case, because 99 happened. Which is my point. The Kaminoan cloning process is as hot shit as everyone has allowed themselves to believe it to be.
>I'd actually hazard that the fact that 99 was in such a physical state instead of having him surgically corrected proves that they wish to see how even failed clones perform. It's also entirely possible that one of 99s purposes was as a way to scare clone cadets that if they "fail" they'll end up like him.
I don't disagree with this. Actually, I think that's kinda interesting. Never thought of it that way before.
>>84357751
>The Kaminoan cloning process is as hot shit
*cloning process is NOT as hot shit
My bad.
