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>Olga Kurylenko, Emily Ratajkowski and Elodie Yung were considered
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>Olga Kurylenko, Emily Ratajkowski and Elodie Yung were considered for the role of Wonder Woman before Gal Gadot got the part
>Gadot was also going to be Faora, but dropped out because she was pregnant

What the fuck is wrong with Snyder and the producers? For what reason do they think the best actresses to portray amazonian female warrors are brown, eastern-looking waifs? I legitimetly don't understand how someone could look at a Wonder Woman comic and think: "Yep, Emily Ratajkowski looks exactly like that."

Why can't anyone do Wonder Woman, the most famous female hero and a feminist icon, any justice?
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I think that's the sort of woman Snyder wants to fuck
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Because mainstream society thinks women with muscles are masculine and shame men for being attracted to them.

It's easy to blame Snyder and WB but there's not much they can do about it
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But real Amazonian women aren't musclebound giantesses either, maybe he was going to more realism.
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>>84273933
Amazons were said to live on an island close to modern day Ukraine.

They were slavs and also related to the people who became Iranians.
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>>84273970
Nonsense, they cast a somewhat masculine-looking woman as Faora and she was extremely well-received.
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All too skinny, No blue eyes, holy shit.
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>>84273983
>he thinks Amazons come from the Amazon

wew lad
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>>84273983
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>>84273983

The Amazon mytho as nothing to do with the natives of South America or the Amazon rain forest
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>>84274005
Oh yeah very masculine

Faora was mostly armor
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>>84274049
She got in shape for MoS. I was talking about her face, anyway. She has a pretty strong jawline.
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>>84274018
>>84274040
but why would they be called Amazons if they're not from the Amazon
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>ITT: NEETS think they can do a better job than professionals.
There's been a move to get a more olive tone Wondy the past decade or so. I'm all for it, since Diana isn't really white and Themyscera lies closer to Turkey than Greece. I'm also pleased they gave her an accent since she has one in the comics as well.
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>>84274068
>The name Amazon is said to arise from a war Francisco de Orellana fought with the Tapuyas and other tribes. The women of the tribe fought alongside the men, as was their custom. Orellana derived the name Amazonas from the Amazons of Greek mythology, described by Herodotus and Diodorus.

Now fuck off with this shitty bait.
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>>84274049
>this image of her that is composed to accentuate her femininity is representative of the character in the film.

She's pretty masculine in the movie mate, its not a bad thing, but it is true.
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>>84274058
Well, she's German.
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>>84274089
Yeah, those professionals did a bang up job.

>Themyscera lies closer to Turkey than Greece
You are fucking retarded. Modern Turkey isn't white because Anatolia was conquered by the Ottoman turks. Before that it was unter Greek control. Unless Themyscera was invaded by the turks and every modern amazon was a turk rape baby they would still be white.
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>>84273983
like When Gal Gadot said if you wanted to be reallistic Amazons used to cut one of her breast
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>>84274165
That's actually something historians disagree over.
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>>84274005
Faora was not going to be the face of a billion dollar global franchise.
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>>84274165
Is that why did she cut off both of her breasts?
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>>84273933
Olga could pull it off I guess
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>>84274191
wait.. weren't Amazonians a myth?
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>>84274093
You can't even see her body, and she also had a pretty face.

What is funny sometimes is that musclefags usually want Wondy to be show in a way that she is rarely show on comics. Pic related for example, Wondy usually is fit, but not a overly masculine musclegirl that musclefags like, and she has huge breasts to add to it.

Galdot is still shit, it would be better if we had Xena actress on her prime.
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>>84274222
Yes, that guy is a faggot. He is confusing it with the people who probably inspired the myth, but if this was true Wondy would have to always use a horse and a bow, and cut her relations with greek pantheon.

People should accept that the amazons from comic have almost nothing to do with the myth or the hystorical versions.
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>>84274089
Wonder Woman has a literal godlike mastery of language. She does not have an accent.

>>84274146
Stop arguing about history, none of that is relevant because the fictional Themyscira in the comics existed near Greece and that's it.

Amazons were created by the goddesses and lived on mainland Greece, until the Heracles incident, when they went to live on a magical island and be isolated from the rest of the world for thousands of years.
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>>84274223
>unironically using Jim Lee art as proof

Fabok or bust.
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>>84274222
Herodotus, one of the foremost historians of Ancient Greece, described them as if they were real, and they were a prominent subject of Greek art for quite some time.

On the other hand, he's been known to embellish things to make a good story and the art thing doesn't really prove they were real.

'Myth Plausible', basically. There were definitely some barbarian tribes (that the Amazons were said to be related to) that had female leaders/warriors.
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>>84274267
Either way, Wonder Woman has always been depicted as white with blue eyes.
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>>84273933
>Brown eastern looking waifus
Because they want exotic looking women of ambiguous ethnicity
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>>84274292
Just googled Wonder Woman to show how the most iconic and common looks of the character.

Your Fabok isn't an ultra muscle aberration that musclefags like tho, so its fine.

If there is a thing that I find patethic is being facetious to the fact that you are casting a character based only on fetish and not the most common and iconic representation of the character.
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There is a dead ringer for WW and is at least equal to Gadot in acting ability.
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>>84274422
She's huge compared to Gadot though. Anyway, it's not just her body that bothers me, it's her skin and eye color, her face and her bad acting.
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>>84274449
literally who?
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>>84274449
If she was a kike she would have gotten the job
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>>84274529
Yeah because everyone knows who Gal Gadot s.
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>>84274538
'that chick who died in the Fast and the Furious'
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>>84274449
I
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>>84274538
i fucking didnt know who gal gadot was before she was cast as wondy since i dont watch fast and furious movies, that doesnt answer the question though. literally who? image search doesnt work.
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>>84274005
>extremely well received

On /co/, the rest of the world could not give a single solitary fuck about faora
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>>84274559
Alexandra Daddario.
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>>84273933
Diana's been waifish before, she can be waifish again.
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>>84273983
WE
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>>84274608
It doesn't fit with her modern characterization of a badass amazon warrior.
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>whoever plays Wonder Woman needs to be muscular
End this meme. Wonder Woman isn't butch in the comics because her strength is magic superpower bullshit, not muscle.
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>>84274645
>her strength is magic superpower bullshit, not muscle.

Same goes for Thor and Hercules, but would you ever accept a skinny Hercules? Also, fit =/= butch.
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>>84274608
Not waifish, lean and toned. I liked Lynda Carter as wondy.
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>>84274657
No, because they clearly -are- ripped. Wonder Woman being depicted as anything but puny is rare.
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>>84273933
Can Ratajkowski even act?
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>>84274688
>Wonder Woman being depicted as anything but puny is rare.
Sure, if you haven't read any WW comics past 2000.
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>>84274146
Except, Anatolia is mostly Greek. Turks were both minority and the ruling part in Seljuk era. Ottomans' radical Islamic policies made Anatolian people look like rape babies of Turkic people, Greeks, Slavs and Middle Easterners.

t. Turk
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>>84274693
Gadot's casting proves acting is not a requirement.
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>>84274713
You are confused.
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>>84274717
I've been to central Anatolia, there were no slavic-looking people there, just brown people. Anyway, the point was that Themyscera had no interaction with turks or anyone else for 1000s of years so they should still be white.
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>>84274585
She can't be Wonder Woman if she's already Zatanna.
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>>84274091
if they're from Greek mythology doesn't that mean Marvel owns them?
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>>84274093
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>>84274759
Disney owns Greek mythology now? I wouldn't be surprised desu.
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>>84273933
Out of those 4 they made the right choice. Gal>Olga>Emily>Elodie
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>>84273933
>Emily Ratajkowski
Her body was too perfect to be Wonder Woman.
Ha just kidding, this outie belly button is disgusting. No wonder she didn't get the part
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>>84274743
Central Anatolia where? I live in Ankara, dude. Just walk around the city centre it's like shit raining down on a milk.
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>>84274793
ugh, that's disgusting.
Outie bellybuttons are just the worst.
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>>84274774
I don't see how they could print all those Hercules comics or make that movie if they hadn't licensed the characters
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>>84274793
She's the only one that has the tits to play Wonder Woman.
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>>84274813
Big cities don't count, they're always multi-cultural.
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>>84274821
the myths and characters are public domain, disney and marvel own their particular versions of them and nothing more.
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>>84274834
Small towns are cheap so they attract Kurds, Arabs and Syrians though.

We are talking about Turkey being diverse so, eh. Of course big cities count.
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>>84274887
I don't agree, gotta look at the whole country, not just the big cities. You can see a lot of different people in Bucharest, but in the Romanian countryside looks like gypsy land.
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>>84273933
>Olga Kurylenko
THANK GOD.
Her "acting" was somehow the worst part of a terrible in every way Hitman movie.
Normally I'd be upset to not see someone from my country as Wonder Woman, but with Kurylenko I'd gladly pick Gadot too. I'd pick a mule, over both of them though.
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>>84274930
Big cities make up for most of the population though.
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>>84274821
I guess Dreamworks licensed the Bible, as well?
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Olga could have been good.
I generally like her as an actress.
And not only because she follows the Eva Green "Hey can I get my tits out in this scene?" doctrine of acting.
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Emily Ratawhatever...

Isn't she the girl in the 'Blurred Lines' music video?
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>>84274267
>Wonder Woman has a literal godlike mastery of language. She does not have an accent.
What the fuck. You can't not have an accent, every language/dialect/etc. is an accent to one another. It's been stated numerous times in comics that she does have an accent.
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>>84274093
>Cut her hair
>Now she's masculine

You guys are really insecure.
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>>84275156
Yes. Now fuck off, Boco.
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I really doubt any of those actresses were considered

considering 2 of them haven't even been in an actual movie or television show for anything more than a guest role
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>>84273933
Blame this piece of shit here
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>>84275217
> 2 of them haven't even been in an actual movie or television show for anything more than a guest role

So, like Gadot?
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>>84274005
She's not masculine, she's just Germanic.
Hell, she looks feminine as fuck compared to ugly tranny-tier average German women.
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>>84274202
>Is that why did she cut off both of her breasts?


She don't need to cut
Because she does have any
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Zack Snyder fucked her is that so hard to understand
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>>84275237
Gal was at least in a movie, Emily never was
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>>84275211

Yes sir...
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>>84274449
No ass

Next
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>>84275190
>cuts her hair
>puts on a suit of space armor
>acts like she knows she can topple a building with her bare hands

Its more than just a look.
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>>84274538
The only pancake ass in that scene beach in Fast and the Furious
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>>84274821

Mythological characters are beyond any copyright protection (in fact, they predate the concept of copyright itself by thousands of years). Marvel, DC, Disney, and various other concerns all own specific versions of the mythic figures, but the myths themselves anyone can draw from. You or I, or anyone else could write a comic featuring Thor, Hercules, or any number of mythic figures as long as it only drew from the original myths and not any modern, copyrighted material, and did not infringe on any name or design trademarks.
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>>84275275
But Olga was and she's a much better actress than Gadot.
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>>84274645
>End this meme. Wonder Woman isn't butch in the comics because her strength is magic superpower bullshit, not muscle.

WW trains since childhood to be an Amazon warrior, the next time try reading comics
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>>84274522
You guys catch this by any chance?
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>>84275573
What did he train her in, puking in a toilet?
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>>84275573
Why does that expression seem so familiar?
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>>84273933
to olga at least i could've fapped to
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>>84275050
And Olga maybe can put some muscle and silicone here and there
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>>84275156
And ICarly
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>>84275181
>What the fuck. You can't not have an accent, every language/dialect/etc. is an accent to one another. It's been stated numerous times in comics that she does have an accent.


hard to imagine someone who lives 5000 years having accent in any language
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>>84275269

Maybe Deboorah Snyder fucked her
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>All thin and slender
>All Supremely Attractive
>All vaguely ethnic looking, but not too much

Based Snyder

All of you disgusting fucks with your muscle trash BTFO
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>>84274146
>Yeah, those professionals did a bang up job.
You have no fucking clue how movies are made.
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>>84275275

> Emily Ratajkowski
> Cruise 2016
> In Darkness (pre-production) 2017
> Gone Girl 2014
> A Year and a Day 2005
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>>84276157
Nah, Gadot is too fucking skinny. The rest are great though.
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>>84276197
Don't forget Entourage.
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>>84275573


Strange and horrendous bones in her face
Strange jaw, normal people don't have this bones
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>>84276238
>Entourage

We are talking about movies
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>>84274089
>I'm also pleased they gave her an accent since she has one in the comics as well.
I'm pretty sure WW has almost never had an accent.
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>>84273933
I can more about how talented an actor is than I will ever care about what they look like or "supposed" to.
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>>84274049
Damn
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>brown, eastern-looking waifs

hmm where's Greece again?

i got nothing on the waif part.
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>>84273933
Apologize, right fucking now!
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>>84276396
>I can more

I care more*
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>>84276413
Christ, Boehner.
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>>84274522
Chris Hemsworth is not buff enough to play Thor.
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>>84276282
The Entourage movie.
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Biggest differentiator

Gal has the most beautiful smile out of the bunch, and has an innocence to her look which will come into play in her own film.

Wonder Woman isn't all RAGE KILL MAIM like some want her to be.

I think Gal is by far the best choice out of all those girls.
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>>84276554
She's also the tallest out of all of them at 5'10". She doesn't need to be boosted too much with wedges since Cavill is 6'2" and Affleck is 6'4". Traue is at 5'7" and needed some good sized wedges to bring her up.
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>>84276368
>I'm pretty sure WW has almost never had an accent.
It's been mentioned multiple times in the comics. Most recent I can think of is during (I believe) Trinity of Sin when Steve reunites with her and the Justice League while he has his league in tow. He comments that she still has the accent after all this time.
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>>84276554
Fuck the haters, she is cute as hell.
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>>84275253

Not that anon but I thought it was obvious. And funny.
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>>84276160

By that logic, all movies would suck.

BvS is a film that sucks, significantly more so standing next to TDK or Civil War.

The fault lies with a poor script that was poorly directed.
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>>84276989
>or Civil War
But it was better than CW.
Both were disappointments, though.
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>>84273933
Brown Wondy will always be best Wondy.
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>>84276679
She's beautiful in the outfit
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>>84276554
>Wonder Woman isn't all RAGE KILL MAIM like some want her to be.
>*smiles in battle because she wants to kill*
>"SHE'S A WARRIOR SHE MISSES THE FIGHT"
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>>84275573
Looks like a zika baby
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It's simple: Hollywood still subscribes to the "star system". Whenever they find someone that is slated to become the next big thing, studios scramble to lock them down in tentpole franchises to reap into their budding popularity. This is the system that tried to make Gina Carano, Jai Courtney, Sam Worthington, Kellan Lutz, Chris Hemsworth, and several others happen.

Gadot was a relatively big player in a extremely succesful action movie series, and was booking some solid gigs, so DC pinned her down on Wonder Woman, but so far all of Gadot's other gigs have disappointed. "Triple 9" got mixed reactions, "Criminal" flopped and "Keeping Up with the Jones" is expected to do the same.
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>>84276989
>By that logic, all movies would suck.
No, by that logic many movies, particularly large-release films, are tampered with by studio executives in order appeal to a broader base and earn more money. Just like any form of art, things are highly subjective and some movies come out with better mass appeal from this process, and some unfortunately come out less unscathed.

>BvS is a film that sucks, significantly more so standing next to TDK or Civil War.
I liked the UE better than Civil War and Deadpool. I felt the movie was smoother, the subject matter more appealing and the movie overall more ambitious. I liked the theatrical less than those two due to what I felt was choppy editing. Again art is subjective.

>The fault lies with a poor script that was poorly directed.
Yet I still liked it better. Again, art is subjective.
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>>84276679
I love that smirk. That's how WW should be giving you the fuck me eyes while she charges you getting ready to rip off your fear boner
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>>84275573
her head is such a weird shape
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>>84275573
I don't understand what's your problem with this.
It's a great Joker. Probably would be the best we have ever had in live-action.
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>>84278009
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>>84273933
ugly slavs
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>>84274223
90's Lucy Lawless as Wonder Woman

Anon why do you do this to me?
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Why Gal Gadot is Not the Perfect Wonder Woman!

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3372773
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>>84274089
>themyscera
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>>84273933
Kurylenko would've been good but why the fuck couldn't they just get a greek bitch if wanted a rat lookin smut like like Ratajkowski. or an accent like they were clearly trying to get. But they went with "any accent with a vagina will do".

I don't know the other chick.

>>84274223
It's tough to say who's wrong and who's right though. Broads all want chubby, soft-faced golden age wonder woman, musclefags all want their favorite insta-fit girl, and for some reason us comicfags throw shit fits about anyone they'd have cast. We wanted Xena (I honestly never have but that's for a different day...) and if they can't give us Xena we don't want it.

For anyone that's read this far, you may be disappointed to know I actually kinda like WonderGal. She's not the worst casting we've ever gotten.
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>>84279478
>She's not the worst casting we've ever gotten.
She literally can not act.
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>>84277104
Fucking this.

I wouldn't mind Gal Gadot smiling, laughing, and dancing like in that gif, but the problem is, BvS took itself so seriously. And we know her WW movie is going to take itself seriously too.

I genuinely hope sometime down the line, things lighten up but for now, it's all edge.
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>>84279522
Same with like 70 percent of the actresses currently getting work with major studios.

Also most of the "good" actors in comic book movies have been throwing them under the bus as cash-grabs they did for their kids or grandkids to see them in. Good actors aren't lining up for comic book movies, they're writing think pieces about how those budgets ruin their shitty little passion projects.

Also, Halle Barry can act. And she was worse than Gadot casting wise.
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>>84274146

Pre-Turkic Anatolians were more like Armenians than Greeks, so Gal would probably fit better than any blond or blue-eyed actress, Greek or otherwise.
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Also, Gadot and Momoa did casting for GOTG.

Aquaman and Wonder Woman are Marvel Z-lister rejects.
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>>84274585
What's with the heels in the pool?
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Bad casting decisions
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>>84274449
Daddario shouldn't be Wonder Woman when she could be an absolutely GOAT Starfire.
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>>84281126
>rejected by DANCE-OFF BRO and the Literally Whos
>so they joined the JUSTICE LEAGUE
I wish I could get "rejected" like that more often!
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>>84282957
Fucking finally someone casts her in the right role.
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