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Civil War II #7 Initial Solicit, Regular Cover, and Michael Cho
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>Carol goes Binary
>Ulysses will get a new costume inspired by Karnak's (and a few other Inhumans)


CIVIL WAR II #7 (OF 7)
BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS (W) * DAVID MARQUEZ (A)
COVER BY MARKO DJURDJEVIC
VARIANT COVER BY MICHAEL CHO
B&W VIRGIN CONNECTING VARIANT H COVER BY KIM JUNG GI
B&W CAPTAIN AMERICA VARIANT COVER BY JIM STERANKO
MILES MORALES VS. SAM WILSON VARIANT COVER BY PHIL NOTO
BATTLE VARIANT COVER BY CHRIS SPROUSE
THE WAR ENDS...
56 PGS./RATED T+ ...$5.99
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The final issue of this garbage will be out this October.
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Those are Karnak's marks, right?
Dead Inhuman walking, replaced by Homer.
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>>84273247
Christ. Can this just hurry up and be over already?
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>Carol wins

Totally no trying to make her marvel wonder woman
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>>84273291
they have been trying to make her their WW for a while now, this isn't news
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>>84273291
Let's not forget that who wins a Civil War will be character assasinated.
After the last CW Tony was saved only because of the MCU
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I cant wait for this "meh" event to be over once and for all
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>>84273258
Ulysses is trained by Karnak.
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>>84273236
If only more clothes were ripped...
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>>84273236
Dat Cho drawn Cap Dancers...
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Sprouse variant (revealed at the same time as his #1 variant).

>>84273364
That's Djurdjevic. Michael Cho's cover is >>84273247
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>>84273247
BASED CHO
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>>84273236
>Civil War II
>II
Y?
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>>84273400
Bendis
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So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause
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>>84273236
>Carol goes Binary
noice
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>>84273247
>October
I just want it to be over
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>>84273291
Well, Carol's right.
It'd be an improvement over the first Civil War in that respect.
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I dont mind ms marvel but i do mind forced memes. Shes the ultimate forced meme. Shes been floating b list for a long time and that was best thing for her. But this is too much.+
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>>84273706
She's right that it's a good idea to use future knowledge to help save lives, but she's also a tactical and strategic fuck-up who wouldn't know what to do with that knowledge.>>84273706
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>sees the Hulk slaying the entire team of Avengers, Ultimates, and Inhumans
>goes to the Hulk to confront him, possibly becoming the trigger for The Hulk hulking out

Come on Carol
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>>84274508
Let's not forget that Bruce isn't even the Hulk right now so she's going to possibly detain/beat the shit out of a harmless man.
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>>84273247
>>84273236
Just print the script with some shit scribbles and be over plase.
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>>84274508
He can't Hulk out right now, so snap his neck and problem solved.
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I really hope to get a bingo before October
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>>84274591
Isnt bottom most right already confirmed?
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>>84274581
AS GOOD AS IT GETS
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>>84273706
When she gets Banner killed, she won't.
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>>84274591
There's already a Bingo on O Column. Star-Lord and Gamora will switch from Carol and the relaunch is more than confirmed.

Also the fourth row is done as well. Guardians are ultra confirmed, and last battle will be Miles (good minority) vs Hydra Cap (Bad White straight male)
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>>84274591
Bendis knows about it and is trolling us by not giving us the line.
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>>84273236
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>>84273236
>Carol goes Binary

What does that even mean?
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>>84274581
Where's Carol at? All I see is this handsome gentleman.
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>>84277068
Super saiyan
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>>84277170
It's Carl now, anon.
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>>84277225
>Jessica cucked Carl by getting some rando's sperm
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>>84274610
>>84275199
Doesn't count till it happens.
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>>84273258
Karnak is training Ulysses according to his mini.
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Carol going Super Saiyan
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>>84273236
In order fot the status quo to be maintained, Ulysses has to either die or be taken out of the picture. His powers being used like this would make it hard to make future stories since everything would be anticipated.
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Karnak confirmed for kill?
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>>84277428
You're just playing autism by now
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>>84275143
She's not going to kill Banner, Clint Barton is going to go rogue after having a Bendis-style mental breakdown after experiencing his own death by being in Ulysses' vision, and unilaterally kills Banner to everyone's horror.
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>>84276566
I can't tell if this is an edit or not, please help
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Carol physically dominating Iron Man. That's hawt.
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>>84277910
It's not.
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>>84277986
>>84276566
Sounds very Ellis-ish
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>>84278003
It's from his OGN, Endless Wartime.

Bonus CW2#3 foreshadowing.
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>>84273236
>Bendis continues his mission of turning Inhumans into Sith lords
What is with pale white skin? They did the same with Karnak on the cover of Uncanny Inhumans. He doesn't look that pale in his book.
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>>84277986
Jesus christ that helmet design is a crime against art.
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>>84277986
Iron man doesn't look like he's flying at all. Just floating around.
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>>84277855
and she's gonna be on his side, whether you like it or not, she's gonna fuck up something
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>>84277986
That's Land-tier posing.
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>>84278805
That would definetly be a better reason to be against Carol then "MUH RHODEY died on the mission to stop Thanos, therefore precognition is bad" or "they used intel to stop a criminal after he'd already committed a crime but before anyone died. THAT'S LIKE RACIAL PROFILING"
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>>84274591
scarlet witch already got shit on with "no more hellstrom"
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>>84273706
>bitch who supports profiling and wants to use Ulysses to satisfy her own petty grudges
>vs idiot who blames Ulysses for something he was in no way responsible for and values MUH RHODEY over everyone who could have died in Thanos's attack
>and neither of them give a shit about She-Hulk
Nobody's right here, anon.
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>>84275199
Kamala also switches sides. "O"-column has a bingo.
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>>84273236
In the thumbnail I thought she was holding up the broken body of Captain Marvel classic, because muh symbolism or something
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>>84279221
No that would actually be a vague attempt at depth.
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>>84278949
I lean towards Carol's side because Ulysses has saved countless lives, and Tony is being irrational.
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what are they fighting about
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>>84279636
Using a precog to stop future crime because we all know precogs have NEVER existed in the Marvel Universe before
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>>84279636
There's this one Inhuman with the power to predict probable futures. Before you ask, no, no self-fulfilling prophecies, he predicts a future where he never had his visions.
Carol wants to use his intel to prevent bad futures from coming true, stopping threats before they happen. She might go a little too far by going Minority Report on people, but so far she's saved countless lives and only detained actual criminals.
Tony doesn't want to use him at all, because he's an idiot.
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>>84279010
Judging by the Champions announcement, she seems to be ending up on Team Fuck Both Y'all
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How angry is Cho going to be when Banner is killed? Would Hulk be angry deep down or indifferent to Bruce's death?
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>>84273247
Yeah, right. You know this shit is getting delayed until at least December.
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>>84279736
Pretty angry going by the solicits
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>>84279636
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>>84273236
Fucking Jace is in everything now dude
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>>84273236
>>84273247
>Ulysses vs The World
So Ulysses will go evil, thus nullifying the whole point of the moral debate.
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>>84280884
Just like in Deadpool: the seer was the mastermind all along.
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>>84279736
Cho considered Banner to be the world's greatest hero.

So probably pretty fucking mad.
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Someone post the "This is a good thing" page with the Inhumans.
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>>84281177
Are they robots?
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>>84281177
I still don't get why the fuck all these people showed up to a random Inhuman getting out of his coccoon. Nobody else ever got that treatment.
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>>84281177
Bendis makes them look and sound like a cult here.

>>84281238
Because he is an event character and that means he's special. Beast doesn't even take part in the Inhuman's affairs he just happened to be in the room, otherwise he is just working on the cure off screen same with johnny, and reader.
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>>84281449
>he just happened to be in the room for the Kang arc
fixed
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sexy costume for karnak and binary marvel is cool so..
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>>84281940
I think that's just Ulysses wearing a Karnak-inspired costume.
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>>84273400
Muh movies.
No, really. They straight up admitted to it.
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>>84274591
The jew thing is in FCBD carol says kosher about the tramp they make to thanos.
So, mark another spot.
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>>84281177
Hey remember how when a new mutant manifested how Professor X or maybe 1 or 2 of the senior X-Men would confront them alone, you know not intimidate the new mutant and make them feel safe? Yea, I don't think the Inhumans quite get that kind of thing
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>>84283662
That is the only time that has ever happened though.
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>>84273236
>Ruining Ulysses' pretty face, the one good thing to come from this event, with that shitty tribal paint
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>>84282118
Then why do the comics have zero recognizable faces and is about black alternate universe Spider-Man and female alternate universe Thor? If I bought this after seeing the movie I'd be fucking pissed.
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>>84280189
kek, I thought the same thing
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>>84283977
They're literally just doing it in the hopes that people will see the title and think "I liked the movie, I'll check this out".
Bendis even admitted that he killed off Rhodey because apparently he died in an earlier draft of the movie, and by the time he found out that he didn't actually die it was too late to change it
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>>84273236
will Carol finally snap and kill Tony Stark?

I kinda hope so.
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>>84284105
I thought it was because bendis though he was going to die based off of the trailer. Either way the man is an idiot
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>>84284109
The Carol murderlust can only be contained for so long.
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>>84284153
That's the case.
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>>84283898
THATS ULYSSES
he's going from cardboard stand to edge lord isn't he
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>>84281177
What's with these shit costumes? Beast looks fine, and Sunfire is ok I guess, but that Cyclops design looks fucking dumb.

Rachel looks like she's cosplaying Charlie Brown and Jean's hair is way too fucking long. Frenzy actually looks nice though.

And is that supposed to be Toad?

Overall it's shit. They look like X-Men wannabes more than X-men. Complete garbage designs.
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>>84273236
>big breasts
>short hair

aw fuck my boner is popped and locked...
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>>84274591
-ist line already happened with Tony telling Ulysses he could be prejudiced against Thanosians.
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>>84277068
>Niggas not knowing about Binary
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>>84274591
Didn't Damian Hellstrom get called a misogynist in the first issue?
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>>84278912

The funny thing about Carol's side is that it has no chance of standing up in court.

>"Oh this guy can see the future sometimes...kinda, so that proves this guy was going to do something bad."

That shit ain't gonna cut it in court
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>>84281177

>Those super generic cookie-cutter characters in the background

Who's idea was it to make another fire guy?
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>>84285974
>Ssunfire
Inferno

>Cyclops
Reader
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>>84287077
Editorial
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>>84287139
That was bait.

I fucking hate the Inhumans. Shitty knock-offs.
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You know what? I hope Carol does kill Tony. That way, all the fangirls supporting Bendis Iron Man would freak out and they would be double mad that Carol did it.
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>>84273236
It seems weird to complain that an event is too obviously contrived to push Marvel's editorial agenda, but even by event standards this is depressingly obvious.

I think what kills it for me is that it combines the Carol push with the Inhumans push, the two most blatant and over-the-top Marvel pushes of the last few years. If they'd just stuck with one - try to push Carol or try to push the Inhumans - maybe I'd just about buy it.
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>>84287377
This might be Marvel's worst plan event. Even worse than Fear Itself. Fear Itself had a really good premise but it wasted it and was way too long.

Here, the main story doesn't even make sense. It's about Pre-Cog vs. Anti-Cog, and yet Tony's side really has no argument. Were they supposed to let that giant...thing rampage? Or Thanos get the cube to kill hundreds first? And the fact that the big world ending threat wasn't even defined shows how little they care about this event. Everything is just happening because they want the most controversy. War Machine is dead, She-Hulk was almosted dead but isn't really anymore, and they are hyping up the next issue's big death, and everyone knows that it's gonna be Hawkeye that kills the Hulk. Even typing that, it just feels wrong.
This whole event reeks of producers taking over a project. Purely cashing in on a popular event and movie synergy, but the logic isn't there. Why are they saying that stealing a tank equals racial profiling? Why are they saying that these disasters should just happen? Like Kamala would feel so much better if her school did blow up, or Thanos did blow up Miami or some shit.
Even creating another Marvel NOW and Bendis so eager to promote "All New Black Teenager War Machine" just shows how crummy Marvel is right now. Diversity comes before character, and somehow replacing the perfectly good War Machine with a college age black girl is beyond fanfiction tier.

At this point, I think Alonso is the real problem at Marvel, because they need to get their fucking act together before the entire company crashes when all these fangirls get distracted by a new franchise.
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>>84287172

>"We need to push the inhumans hard!"
>"Also be sure to make them as generic & boring as possible, taking away everything that Kirby used to make them interesting"
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>>84287557
Agreed. Alonso lacks vision. We need a new EiC.
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>>84287941
You don't need to put greentext in quotations. Greentext itself is the quotation.
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>>84287941
Here's where Marvel is really fucking stupid about the Inhumans.
>>Let's push the Inhumans by being like the X-Men.
>>It's not working, let's have the Inhuman gas cloud kill off X-Men so they will have to like the Inhumans.
>>Also, Inhumans don't face any societal problems like hate groups and shit

Marvel hasn't given a single reason why people should like the Inhumans.
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>>84287077

the one that is 100% fire is Johnny Storm (the Human Torch)

the one that is only partially fire is Dante(?), he was created by Matt Fraction and Joe Maduiera, but Fraction left the book and Soule took over but JoeMad! had already drawn two issues starring Dante and they done a lot of promos with his imagery on it (same with Lash), so Soule and Marvel were pretty much forced to use them, even though Soule clearly doesn't care that much for the characters.
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POST YOU BENDIS THEORIES
>Ulysses was always evil but was just pretending to be a stupid teenage stoner
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>>84288132

Perhaps you're right friend....perhaps you're right
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>>84288153

Either just don't use him or kill him off. Why bother using a character nobody in the entire world cares about?
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>>84288173
Tony will break out Thanos and use him on his side.
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I first I thought I saw this guy when I saw the thumbnail. Color me disappointed this isn't an Amon focused legend of Korra comic.
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>>84288134
>Also, Inhumans don't face any societal problems like hate groups and shit
They do have that problem just only the Inhumans around the world have to deal with so it barely comes up. The real problems are,

>editorial meddling
>trying to make the Inhumans into something overnight instead of giving it time
>putting them odds with their largest reader base
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>>84288272
this sounds so fucking stupid.
its gonna happen
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>>84281177
Beast is a race traitor yet again
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>>84287060
But that's the thing, why do you need to get this guy on murder when you already caught him stealing a fucking tank and driving it down the street with intent to just blow shit up? If they wanted to really hamfist in the whole racial profiling angle, why not make up a masked gang or cult or something stupid like that. Have them be a harmless nuisance at worst. Then have Homer see one of them cause some real shit and then they go all Future Fascist on the group. There it's clunky and hamfisted but it makes a lick more sense than that horseshit.
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>>84279592
This is more like "The Boys"

Total Incompetence vs. Ones who Fuck up less.

If Cap or Tony led the assault on Thanos there would have no deaths or comas. Capt Bullldyke is the Hillary Clinton of capes.
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>>84287557
>Even creating another Marvel NOW and Bendis so eager to promote "All New Black Teenager War Machine" just shows how crummy Marvel is right now. Diversity comes before character, and somehow replacing the perfectly good War Machine with a college age black girl is beyond fanfiction tier.

That's not even the problem. The problem is they did something similar already. Ultimate Spider-Man was killed and replaced with Miles Morales. I've got no problem with Miles because at least it was done somewhat naturally.

Here you have a rehash of an event (Civil War) with a rehash of Minority Report, with a rehash of killing a hero off to replace with another younger character to get attention from the press. And what's worse is that the hero being killed off was originally a replacement to another hero--Tony Stark, who was drunk for a while. So it's not even anywhere near the same effect as Ultimate Spider-Man had.

Also..

>
At this point, I think Alonso is the real problem at Marvel, because they need to get their fucking act together before the entire company crashes when all these fangirls get distracted by a new franchise.

>>84288039
>Agreed. Alonso lacks vision. We need a new EiC.

I kind of wondered about comparing the Quesada and Alonso EIC eras. Quesada had Civil War, House of M, Secret Invasion, Dark Reign, and Siege. Alonso has... what, Fear Itself, AvX, Age of Ultron, Infinity, Original Sin, Axis, Secret Wars, and Civil War II. With banners of Marvel Now, Avengers Now, All-New All-Different Marvel, And whatever the upcoming Marvel Now is going to be called. I didn't like most of the stuff from Quesada's EIC time that I mentioned... but they seemed more exciting than most of the events on Alonso's time as EIC.
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>>84281177
Whos the bitch with the blue-ish tits and half haircut?
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>>84289539
Why?
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>>84289539
Iso
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>>84289648
I'm going to draw the FUCK out of her
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>>84289860
aww yeah
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I love how Marvel is so anti-surprise that they've already telegraphed how Nothing the ending of Civil War II will be by announcing new books far ahead of the event's final issue, as if it isn't even giving the event a chance to get started (which it already should have done) before revealing everything that's going to happen.

In any case, we already know that Civil War II ends with Iron Man and Captain Marvel coming together, and then the teens quit and form their own Avengers (with blackjack and hookers!), and ultimately it all returns to nothing.
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>>84289506
I have no idea how much power Alonso actually has, but my impression of him is he's a Vertigo guy at heart who doesn't really like superheroes much. He comes off as enthusiastic about edgy projects and about Star Wars. Talking about superhero stuff he sounds like a robot.

But again, I don't know how much power he's got. Shooter and Quesada had a mandate to shake things up. Alonso seems more like a figurehead EiC, like Bob Harras at DC.
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>>84286070
Woolie pls.
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>>84290801
Its too late.
He's falling down the Woolie hole
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>>84273236
Whether this be a villain turn or a simple costume change, Ulysses hasn't shown Karnak a lot of love. If anything he has been closer to Medusa.
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>>84286070
>Big breasts
>Short hair
>Making Tony her bitch

Now, that's just hawt. Carol is my murder waifu.
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Where the fuck is Black Bolt? Is he still dead/exiled/whatever? I can't take the Inhumans seriously without Black Bolt, they're a complete joke without him.
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>>84291876
He is still exiled, he probably wont be in this event at all.
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>>84290378
>Alonso seems more like a figurehead EiC, like Bob Harras at DC.
This, but he supports diversity and he's also contributed to almost every Marvel book of today looking like Marvel Knights in tone and substance.

Worse, he allows movie/TV synergy.
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>>84273291
Difference is, WW earned her place. Carol is being forced into it.
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>>84288272
Nah, Anti-Man will break him out. It's been hinted at pretty heavily in Ultimates.
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>>84292282
WOW, let's just unpack that... What did WW do to "earn her place" ... *when* she first got it ???

And also, for how long has Carol been earning the respect that she wasn't getting?
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>>84284109
She'd become my favorite character if she kills Tony.
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>>84291984
At the most, Moon Knight could feel like a Marvel Knights title

The rest of the ongoings (aside from Vision/BP/Logan) are just the same generic bland style that the MCU is - We want to include everyone! Too bad most of that direction is towards bad taste.
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>>84274591
B bottom already happened at the party scene in the first issue
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>>84273236
But can he fight like Karnak? Future sight isn't a particularly intimidating ability.
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>>84285974
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>>84289860
>sidecuts

OK.

I surrender. I now find that hairstyle hot.
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I v X
v
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>>84295439
Congrats.
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>>84295554
My dick has reached a whole new cummy level
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>>84295484
Can someone storytime the issue sauce of that image?
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>>84298006

Already has:

>>84298956

>>84274591

Psylocke and Nightcrawler switch sides with Nightcrawler bringing the Christian God into the mix to strawman himself.
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>>84301055
>already has
>storytime posted almost one hour later after I request
>this post
Too late
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