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>>84261407
what is that?
Mabel
>>84261417
>he doesnt know homestuck
leave now, for your own sanity.
I was expecting either Elsa or Azula
Especially after the Azula shitfest yesterday
Gwenpool but I mean that's kinda the point
She just wants to be the main character of the story but has really done more villanous stuff than anything, even if it's not THAT bad
and the sad thing is, people STILL try to defend her, after everything she's done, like wtf m8
>>84261462
we're not supposed to think she's good, some breeeders just do anyway
Obligatory
>>84260878
>>84260878
Mystique.
>>84261630
are you saying she's good because she doesn't have a vagina?
>>84261557
this
>>84261666
Lawful evil > Neutral evil and Chaotic evil
>>84261625
Does anyone actually consider her to be good? Most in universe characters seem to tolerate her only because it would start a war to piss her off.
I was about to say shes Namor/Doom light, and then realized how /co/ would take that.
>>84261675
she's still an evil bitch that needs slaying senpai
>>84261689
Try picking actual bad guys then for your comparison.
>>84261407
I don't even understand why hussie liked this character
Sure she was one of the least character wise shallow trolls, but still fucking unlikable
I mean she doesn't grow emotionally or matures in anyway, and only a little in an alt ghost
>>84261737
Because she is literally perfect.
>>84261729
right there, anon, I knew you wouldnt let me down.
>>84261675
>lawful
shes not lawful, she makes up the rules
thats just pure evil hiding behind a shallow excuse
>>84261654
Why were all the women in this show so much more terrible than the men?
>>84261718
If you were to assassinate Princess Bubblegum, it would cause a massive power vacuum and chaos in the Candy Kingdom and also weaken the ability to defend its borders as the citizens are incompetent without her leadership.
>>84261748
her first major action was fucking taking on a godmode boss head on and losing, getting all her allies killed, and that only got fixed because of retcon-powers and being knocked out
sure
fucking perfect
>>84261718
>>84261778
it would also kill the candy elemental avatar
which would probably have worse side effects than just a political vacuum
>>84261778
cause she made them like that you dumbass
she made it so her own people couldn't do shit without her help, creating people that no matter what couldn't do shit, the only guy who we know that has been able to think for his fucking self is Root Beer Guy, who's dead as fuck, and the gumball sword master guy, that she tried to have killed
>>84261832
why the hell did she even make the candy people?
what purpose does it serve?
>>84261853
Why did God create Man?
>>84261867
He wanted to make more of HIMself
>>84261867
>he
god didn't
man created the fiction of god
>>84261853
i guess because nobody's stupid enough to fucking serve under anybody like PB, so she made people that were.
also to show the other kingdoms that she has enough people to be recognized as a ruler/kingdom, i guess
>>84261878
God is the sum totality of the universe, and therefore since man is part of the universe is a creation of God.
>>84261890
>i guess because nobody's stupid enough to fucking serve under anybody like PB
>finn and jake
>>84261755
They weren't, we simply have one or two examples of decent men. Whereas we have ZERO examples of decent women.
>>84261654
I don't think we're supposed to accept her as good, atleast no better than anyone else in town who isn't Hank Rutherford Hill.
>>84261917
yeah, i know what i said senpai
>>84261917
They were grown under her indoctrination
>>84261911
if "god" is just a synonym for "universe" then the word "god" is useless
also your ignoring all the baggage that comes with the word "god" and expecting all the benefit, stop that
>>84261946
finn and jake where raised by dogs, and not candy citizens i think
>>84261646
>she
>>84261407
Is that where Justin Roland got his pupils from?
>>84261976
>has
>>84261976
that is the joke anon yes
>>84261557
Have only very casually watched some episodes of AT but what's she done? Could you kindly either paraphrase, or point me towards some page where it's explained, or at least give me some keywords to google?
Thanks and sorry for being so ignorant, but I got interested ;_;
>>84261938
None of the guys in the Alley were anywhere near as bad as Peggy, Nancy and Ming. Boomhauer was just a man whore and Bill was pathetic. We did have one example of a decent women in Luanne though. Not a malicious bone in her body
>>84262012
idk how far you've gotten anon, don't want to spoil any shit, what do you mean by casually?
>>84262032
Kahn
>>84261689
She is good to her people, She is just has a bitch personality, that has actually been toned down a bit in recent years. The thing is she saves people because it is her job and not for morality reasons so it is about what helps the Inhumans instead of what is right. For example the thing with Tony just now, Medusa said she would have blown up Stark tower and put Tony in their dungeon if she didn't have to worry about the humans taking it out on the Nuhumans not living in Attilan.
>>84262045
I wouldn't call Khan one of the Alley guys
>>84262032
>Ming
desu, i never thought the wassanasons were that bad, honestly, they felt like the most decent people therealso, nobody in KOTH is necessarily a bad person except for Nancy and John Redcorn
>>84261462
>Azula shitfest yesterday
what happened?
>>84261878
>implying you have proof god is fake
>>84261557
She has done literally nothing wrong. She proves the efficiency of monarchy.
>>84262012
First fucking episode makes candy zombies trying to beat death
Keeping the litch alive imprisoned in her own castle
Imprisoned Flame princess, in futile attempt to protect Ooo
Destroyed the fire kingdom inactive guardians, just because lol
Cloned multiples to replace her own citizens
Making. and then killing almost all the gumball Knights
Making starchie
In future Grable episode, made every candy citizen live inside gumball guardian dispenser
etc etc etc
>>84262054
Oh yeah. The woman who called Balon Greyjoy evil for wanting to rule his own land while she does exactly the same thing with the added bonus of leading a dothraki rape tour of Westeros
>>84262054
This. She is a /tv/ and /lit/ stuff but I can't just stand to her. GRRM shows how bitch she is in books at least but DnD really made her their SJW queen.
>>84262097
they are mutually exclusive, that alone makes the vast majority of them fake
several gods are provably false just by documentation, several religions have been anthropologically recorded, because they have formed in the last 50 years
even if there is one that is true, ALL the other ones are fabricated whole cloth
why even try to defend that this nebulously?
>>84262032
Kahn, Kahn is as bad as Ming that's why they were so perfect for one another
All the men were shit in their own way.
Bill was pathetic, pathetic to the point he was a drag on everyone around hims lives and that wouldn't be so bad if he didn't become disloyal the second he saw a shot at happiness OR sabotage himself the second he actually had stable happiness.
Dale was a mooch and a nutjob.
Boomhauer....is actually pretty okay.
And why limit it to the alley?
Buck and Cotton are probably the worst people that aren't legitimately trying to hurt people.
Cotton is an abusive piece of shit to Hank.
Buck uses Hank knowing full well the man would follow him into Hell.
>>84262081
Ted is a massive yuppie douche, until he tries to rope Kahn into joining the Laotian resistance just so he can play like he's in touch with his roots he's just the Next Level Kahn.
>>84262193
4chan only believes in god cause most atyheist are cringe lords, that's literally it
>>84262193
If God isn't a specific being but instead adapts its form to what humans in an area believe in. Wouldn't that result in working multiple pantheons?
>>84262122
Making her fucking PB clone sphinx, letting Jake raise it, then it almost killed everything on Ooo intentionaly, only to be countered by Finns righteous sphinx clone
>>84262167
Let's not forget how D&D have been portraying Cersei.
There are some people who even justify her going full 9/11
>>84262012
She made her entire Kingdom of retarded people.
The first people that she made, were too smart and independent, so she haired all of them.
The next wave were a bunch of retarded guy tgat can't live without she CONSTANTLY taking care of them.
This made her make things like, spy with cameras and chips every single one of them. She also acts like every citizen is replicable because she can just clone them if they die.
I was fucjing cheering when Starchy managed to outsmart her and run. But he probably died moments after because she made them unnable to live on the real world.
There is also much, much more, like how she killed her previous elite guards out of a sudden.
Also her experiments on the citizens are a little grey area.
She also destroyed the sleeping robot golens saviors of the Fire Kingdom because some day they might be a menace to her, even if the FK wasn't doing anything. To do so, she almost deliberatly destroyed the Kingdom and killed the citizens.
>>84261462
>Especially after the Azula shitfest yesterday
What?
>>84262247
you have still yet to separate it from a fictional human creation, and it is still impotent and no different from non-existence
you are on a board dedicated to fiction, and identifying what is and is not fiction is necessary to be here.
why are you grasping at straws to preserve the real world social behavior dedicated to breaking down that ability?
>>84262290
She will have problems in the next season I think. Jamie wasn't too happy and I think he is not the only one.
>>84261487
Where is that panel from?
>>84262290
I don't think D&D portrayed Cersei as anything other than a monster in the last season to be fair. They showed her smiling with glee at 9/11, not really giving a fuck about Tommen's death, setting up the septa for weeks of rape and torture and the crowning in the throne room where everything is dark and eerie and she is hated by all in attendance. The fan reactions are what disgust me
Her
>>84262325
unbelievable gwenpool
>>84262316
Fiction is not an absolute term. Imperfect records of the past exist.
>>84262367
And her
>>84262320
>Jamie wasn't too happy
It's about fucking time
Jaime's arc in the books is by far the best and D&D have done a horrible job with it.
>>84262193
>if there is more than one theory for anything, said thing is false.
Kek, god could even exist and not be from any of these religions. At least use a good argument.
>>84262379
616 version is the real villain.
>>84262247
Depends I'm sure some religions have directly conflicting mythologies making them incompatible even if God can mold to fit your abstract concept of God.
>>84262290
I mean Cersei is supposed to be a shit, I don't think you can really compare her to Dany since I feel Dany is supposed to be liked and seen as a good leader despite NOT being and still somehow winning over everyone who isn't THE BAD GUY. Cersei is a villainess and ontop of that she totally lost last season. She killed her enemies and won the thrown but she failed in the singular objective she actually wanted to accomplish. If they were smart, next season would probably be Cersei trying to commit suicide by rebelling hordes of Westeros and beyond.
>>84262389
>about time
He wasn't happy last season as well.
He was all "I'm done, I'm so fucking done with all this shit, I'm done." then he just folds when he actually tries to confront Cersei.
>>84262368
sorry, i meant which issue #.
>>84262375
sure but when a cult claims it as perfect truth, and enforce punishments for non-compliance then its worse than fiction
and you still have yet to describe why anyone needs to continually generate new mutually exclusive god claims anyway. You would think that after they got it right they wouldn't need to come up with more
and if you claim that at least one is right, you can flatly assert that all generated after this point in time are flatly false, even if you don't have a reference to the one true one
>>84262389
She made their son commit suicide. If he forgives her after that he is the real idiot. An it doesn't look like he will just forget everything. I gave up hope and watch this show for mostly memes. But I still want to see Jamie in good stories. Actor and the original character don't deserve this shitty plotlines.
>>84262465
Citation needed. The Greeks even explicity noted that their gods and the Egyptian gods were different understandings of the same ones in different forms.
>>84262012
Remember those Nazi doctors and their experiments? Put one in charge of a country.
>>84262396
god claims are not theories,
they are flat unsupported assertions without predictive power, completely useless
a theory is a model of physical phenomenon that has immediate predictive power when you give it measurable inputs
god claims have no immediate predictive power, and all predictions made are nebulous or at this point beyond their due date
>>84262472
number 2
>>84262497
>citation needed
>proceeds to not cite his own bullshit
>>84262497
Greeks and Egyptians aren't ALL THE WORLD'S mythology.
>>84262545
thanks!
>>84261917
Finn thirsts for her bublegum pussy and Jake is Chaotic Neutral enough to humor him.
>>84262478
Cercei's actress is pretty good but man is she going to be typecast into bitch rolls.
>>84262616
She's pretty good at it, if she still has a career it's not the worst fate.
>>84262530
>god claims are not theories,
>they are flat unsupported assertions
This is why exist pilosophy, metaphisic and theology. Across the years many people debated and made arguments for which kind of god is more likely to exist, using logic.
Also wanting something that is suppused to be supernatural, be measurable by physical means is contraditory.
>>84262650
did she have a gods of eygpt of her own?
>>84262528
>>84262311
>>84262122
>>84262039
I've read some stuff online and watched bits here and there so am possibly already quite spoiled and don't mind, but thank you for your concern.
Also thanks for the explanations anons, holy shit
>>84262247
Why the hell would that be god? This just sounds like all your gods disappeared when you looked for them, and you're trying to use lame excuses.
How did this even happen? Was to be a misogyny thread, not a religion thread.
how did this religion fight start?
>>84262692
>This just sounds like all your gods disappeared when you looked for them, and you're trying to use lame excuses.
Not that anon, but that was the most fedora thing I've read all day.
>>84262725
>Misogyny
what is misogynistic about seeing through a bad characters bullshit no matter what gender
that doesn't seem misogynistic to me, anon
>>84262692
What?
What you are saying doesn't make sense.
Even Hellboy manages to include an unique creator God, angels and sincretic politheism, without generation much conflict or logic problems.
>>84262367
Fuck this bitch
>>84262290
Nah I think Cersei has been portrayed as crazy as she is in the books, with the exception of her rampant sleeping around and giving her own faithful allies to quyburn's experiments etc. It's just that the audience is so retarded they're so eager to see muh strong women leaders they're interpreting cersei as a victim of misogyny and patriarchy and failing to see how she's a dreadful bitch who fucks things up due to her own hubris. Tywin even spelled it out in the show; he didn't mistrust cersei because she's a woman, he mistrusted her because she's not as smart as she thinks she is.
>>84262665
>pilosophy, metaphisic and theology
>none of these use the term theory correctly
>none of these have any practical application and are dead ends
>these are populated by homogeneous mental retards, who play word games in an attempt to seem smarter than they are
I didn't bring up "supernatural"
I never asserted the supernatural is not measurable (even if that is your definition, it is only to divert)
phenomenon have effects in reality, and effects can be measured, so if there is a god phenomenon, there would be a measurable effect, regardless of your idiotic definition of "supernatural"
Nice try diverting you sack of dishonest crap
>>84262728
Someone made a joke about Bubblegum seeing herself as a god which is why she created the Candy people.
Someone tipped their fedora and said God was fictional and created by Man.
And here we are.
>>84262752
and where in hellboy does that creator god assume new identies all the time for no apparent reason
also HELLBOY IS A FICTION, and I was addressing an anon trying to claim "what if the REAL god, assumed multiple personalities in different regions"
>>84262817
some people are just idiots then. Thanks.
>>84262817
>Someone tipped their fedora
Sorry
Thats my bad
but what better place to talk about fictional super powered individuals but on a board dedicated to fictional superpowered individuals?
Tell me how a woman can be a villain. Women by nature are not alphas and therefore do not have the same drive as men who want to conquer.
>>84262012
Have you played the Resident Rvil games? Do you know Albert Wesker?
PB is like that, but everybody, including the writers, seem to think she's not a villain. And now that she's a lesbian, she's virtualy immune to criticism.
>>84262793
>>none of these use the term theory correctly
Different forms of knowledge have different definition for words.
>none of these have any practical application and are dead ends
What? Why would they HAVE to have a pratical aplicativo? Also it is obviously false, culture is extremelly related to phylosohpy school, hell, even science has its roots in phylosohpy and metaphisic arguments.
>these are populated by homogeneous mental retards, who play word games in an attempt to seem smarter than they are
Ok, now you went full retarded and put 3 entire schools of knowledge in your tiny world view, acting exactly the way you are acusing others.
>so if there is a god phenomenon, there would be a measurable effect
What kind would you want?
>Nice try diverting you sack of dishonest crap
You look angry. Why? This is just a conversation on a chinese cartoon board.
>>84262895
there is more than one "conquer" anon
and the fact you don't see how any woman can is more insidious than I think you want to admit
>>84260878
>>84262940
Women at their core, their DNA, are more submissive, they can never be as aggressive as man a can be. It's also why you never see women as warlords or corrupt CEOs
>>84262875
like another board that you can argue stuff about that. You and the other guy(s) are just fucking this thread.
>>84262690
>>84262311
Wait what? I haven't watched the episode with Starchy what happened?!?
>>84262832
>and where in hellboy does that creator god assume new identies all the time for no apparent reason
You don't read? God created "angels", angels were banned on Earth and originated all the other mythologies, everyone different, but still part of God. This is why a good hindu chant might affect a evil Christian demon, they all have the same origin and in the end the same essence. Even if doesn't look like that from an inside limited view.
>also HELLBOY IS A FICTION
Everything on this discussion is just regarding possibilities. So it doesn't matter for a comparaction if it allows for a logical possibility.
>>84260878
i wanna fuck the regular moms
>>84261689
She is an Anti-hero+
>>84262915
If a "school of knowledge" has no practical application then what distinguishes it from useless fiction?
Tell me one useful statement/concept from any of those schools.
The scientific method started the renaissance, not the schools that it was born after.
You don't respect newtons father just because newton came up with calculus.
its not about what kind "I want". to claim existence one has to reference something that the parties in question have access to.
It was an incredibly unsubtle diversion, because They started talking about a definition contradiction, that wasn't brought up in the question, in order to discount the questions they where posed
>>84263033
Well, he rum away.
Managed to pretend that he died, and PB thinking that he died clone do him.
>>84262995
aggression is not the only way to conquer
physical force is not the only way to conquer
>>84262995
>It's also why you never see women as warlords or corrupt CEOs
I know one. She's running for president of the US.
>>84263039
>Everything on this discussion is just regarding possibilities.
Not every possibility is equivalently possible, that's the whole point of analytical comparison, not to mention that religions do the comparing of their dick sizes ON THEIR OWN, so forgive me if my comparison if a bit more meta and finds them all lacking where it actually counts
>>84263071
>If a "school of knowledge" has no practical application then what distinguishes it from useless fiction?
>Tell me one useful statement/concept from any of those schools.
Humanism and iluminism for example, or greek phylosohpy that reflects de their view of the world and endeavors during helenism.
>The scientific method started the renaissance, not the schools that it was born after.
Holly shit dude, how old are you? Are you saying that the phylosohpycall views that created renasciment and scientiphic method are useless?
Also, without Newton's father you wouldn't have fucking Newton.
>its not about what kind "I want". to claim existence one has to reference something that the parties in question have access to.
The hell are you talking about? The greentext was in part made to allow others to know what kind of aspect you are answering to.
>>84263133
>Not every possibility is equivalently possible,
That's why we use phylosohpy, logic and metaphisic debates.
>so forgive me if my comparison if a bit more meta and finds them all lacking where it actually counts
As long as you have philosophical and metaphisic arguments. So far you only complained that more than one line of thought with different schools of knowledge makes you confused and angry, and you decided to declare that they are all false without showing that you have read about them.
>>84263196
>Are you saying that the phylosohpycall views that created renasciment and scientiphic method are useless?
No, I asked for their use, and you didn't give one
You ask how old I am and you don't even bother to use spellcheck?
YOU ASKED ME WHAT KIND OF PHENOMENON I "WANTED" (in order to distract from the fact there is none). I SAID "ANY".
You are confirmed troll
>>84263098
Manipulation can only take you so far. Which ironically is >>84263104 example. The person who she serves is doing a better job dismantling america piece by piece because he has that aggression and he became the president of the united states.
>>84263251
The only place they "count" is practical application.
I don't need a "philosophical, or Metaphysical" argument, and you don't have a handle on logic to begin with
You don't care about Alchemy when using Chemistries practical applications
You don't care about Philosophy when using your Computer to word process and watch videos
You don't care about god when dealing, with reality
>>84263293
are you trying to say Bill is why Hillary is running?
>>84263254
>No, I asked for their use, and you didn't give one
They are what motivates people and shape society. Phylosohpy is culture, is part of the ethos, and what influence people.
>You ask how old I am and you don't even bother to use spellcheck?
I really don't care. Why should I? You are getting what I'm saying and I'm on phone. This was an underage response.
>YOU ASKED ME WHAT KIND OF PHENOMENON I "WANTED" (in order to distract from the fact there is none). I SAID "ANY".
LOL, if you don't even know what kind of phenomenon or proof you want how can you argument that there isn't any? For this to work both parties have to agree with a definition. What would be? "Any" isn't an answer, you didn't defined anything.
>>84263345
Political science is not philosophy unless your using philosophy as loosely as possible like old style heading: "Philosophy of Chemistry"
>I don't care
>I brought it up but I don't care
literal teen angst idiocy
The burden of proof is on the positive assertion, no where else
"Thing exists"
"show me"
"No"
that's your whole argument
Pretty much every villain in My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic fits this.
>>84263337
Not him, Obama and the rest of the Liberal regime.
>>84262125
I REALLY just want the Dothraki to start raping everyone they meet (that they don't murder) the moment they get to Westeros and for her to actually, like, acknowledge it's happening.
That's all I want from that storyline. I don't expect much, do I?
>>84261557
A large part of that is her being such a shitty person was a big character assassination, and then she only recovered by becoming Marceline's not-girlfriend.
>>84263314
>The only place they "count" is practical application
Said like a true retarded. The physical world is a reflex of philosophical issues, you for example is using materialistic philosophy and don't even know this.
>I don't need a "philosophical, or Metaphysical" argument
This is the same as saying that you don't need an argument. Lame when you are on a debate.
>and you don't have a handle on logic to begin with
Angry attempt to discredit others without showing nothing. Go boast to your grandma.
>You don't care about Alchemy when using Chemistries practical applications
The hell is even this comparation? Alchemic philosophy effect on scientiphic discoveries was kind of a thing, because it was THE PHILOSOPHY tgat motivated plenty of them. You don't need to care for something too for it to have an effect.
You usually don't care about the intricated parts that make your computer function when using it, unless it breaks.
>>84263417
>Obama is behind Hillary
there is no centralized person, its the result of the boomers thinking they are gods gift to earth, because they where born into the greatest technological boom in human history, and thinking that the can do no wrong, inflicting shame on to the following generations for anything and everything, when they slowly faced the reality that they, boomers, are actually incredibly stupid
>>84261989
One of her eyes actually has seven pupils.
>>84263487
>The physical world is a reflex of philosophical issues
and I'm the retard?
>>84263487
>The physical world is a reflex of philosophical issues
Holy shit you just gift wrapped the argument for >>84262793
>these are populated by homogeneous mental retards, who play word games in an attempt to seem smarter than they are
Because saying that a school of though which has 0 practical application, is the most important, and in fact everything real is just reflexive of it, is worse than any of his retardation.
>>84263399
>Political science is not philosophy
Nobody here is talking about political science on a materialistic view, I work woth it by the way. We are talking about philosophy and an area of work more close to antropology or sociology, and both make use of philosophy and metaphisic.
>I brought it up but I don't care
>literal teen angst idiocy
Never bought up speeling typos as an argument, unlike you. They are meanless.
>The burden of proof is on the positive assertion, no where else
And I'm asking what would be a proof. The thing is that you doesnt know.
Also, I never even said that god exist on the entire conversation. You can copy here where I said ;^)
>>84262054
I don't really follow Game of Thrones, but what makes her a villain? I agree she may not be some great hero but she seems to be in more of a gray area compared to someone like Cersei.
>>84261487
Gwenpool? Why is this even a thing? Seriously?
>>84260878
Does the reverse count? Like, where we're supposed to love them because of their vaginas, but fucking hate them for it?
>>84263491
As if millennials were any better.
>>84263515
>and I'm the retard?
Yes, because your perception of reality comes from philosophy, culture and etc.
>Because saying that a school of though which has 0 practical application, is the most important, and in fact everything real is just reflexive of it, is worse than any of his retardation.
Geez man, its kind of easy to know that schools of thought are what MOTIVATE people and how they define the reality that they are insered.
This is the FIRST thing that you learn on political science. So yes, culture and ethos is KIND of important for every society and how they act.
You are just making assertions without any other argumentation. For fucks sake, even humanism and iluminism, schools of thought, are heavely íntegrated on the fundation of USA and its laws. Them you say Huuur no pratical effect, like a retarded, without taking these points in consideration.
>>84263601
You brought up my age.
I bough up your incompetence at using a function that exists in every word processor known to man.
tit for tat you mong
>And I'm asking what would be a proof.
You have evidence for existence BEFORE you assert existence, not after.
The second party asking for it is a formality, and you sure as hell should have already collected.
>You can copy here where I said
Tacit
> ;^)
Troll
>>84263718
>the concerns voiced by real life detractors
That the comic is unsalvagable shit...?
>>84263728
Who do you think fucked up the millennials?
who the fuck do you think gave them these idiotic ideals?
seriously I know the millennials are terrible, but who fucking made them that way?
>>84263649
The fact that she's willing to have tens of thousands of people die so she take a throne she's ill prepared for, in a land she's never even been to.
She's not malicious or without morals, but that serves only to keep her from being someone like Aegon who can at least get shit done. She interposes herself into situations, then realizes the cost of morality and the horrors of pragmatism, and ends up just mucking about in the middle while people around her die waiting for her to make a move one way or another.
>>84263745
>Geez man, its kind of easy to know that schools of thought are what MOTIVATE people and how they define the reality that they are insered.
How would schools of thought determine a priori the way people are going to act? You got it all wrong. People first develop their sociopolitical and ideological leanings and then they go flock to whatever parties they find that match their bents.
>/co/ philosophy and politiccs
>>84263745
>schools of thought are what MOTIVATE people
schools of though do not motivate anyone, unless your using a fucked up definition of motivate, (which would fucking reinforce my statement about homogenized retards playing word-games)
they are poor classifications of ideas, people can have multiple motivations for having ideas and rarely will that be the school of thought itself, unless they are the progenitors of the school, and emotional invested
>>84263677
>You bough up my age
Because you really talk about a person without much experience. Like now for example, I'm starting to think that you have autism.
>you have evidence before you assert existence
I'm not assertions existence, just saying that your original argument doesn't make sense and is basically "if there are too many schools of thought they are all false".
You even still think that I'm theist for fucks sake.
>the second party asking for your evidence is a formality that you sure as hell should already have.
So you are asking for a justification? I could for example say that Aquino has plenty of good arguments going for, between others.
Still, this isn't what I'm debating, what is being debated is your dumb justificariam here >>84262193
>>84263821
seriously hes a confirmed troll
I can't help but feed him, but its nice to know that I'm not crazy
>>84263890
>if there are too many schools of thought they are all false".
what the fuck?
I said mutually exclusive god claims make most of them wrong, by structural nature of "mutually exclusive"
I said schools of thought without practical application are no better than fiction
and somehow you mixed them together???
seriously You think I'm an autist but you have actual reading comprehension problems
>>84261407
>Homosuck
LEAVE, VILE CREATURE, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2FWVVMPWz8
>>84260878
>>84263890
>You even still think that I'm theist for fucks sake.
No i think your a retard.
(its not my fault that that correlates with theist, and i never even asserted anything about your theism)
>>84263780
The way I see it, millennials brought it to themselves. They want so hard to make like Utena and bring forth the world revolution, even if it means rebelling against rebellion, which results in their backwards thinking about promoting censorship, encouraging windmill-tilting and wishing for segregation.
As terrible as the boomers might be, millennials get increasingly more dogmatic with every year, which in turn makes people with at least half an ounce of grey matter in their brain to get increasingly more antagonistic against their ridiculous wars, dividing the free world till it stops being so free anymore.
>who the fuck do you think gave them these idiotic ideals?
What ideals? That they should be gendergaseous amphiqueer cataperiendoexoepisexual meta-trinary gnomekin to smash The Patriarchy™? Because I don't remember any of this custom-tailored sexualities and genders existing prior to four or three years ago.
>>84264024
you are still missing my point: WHO MADE THEM THINK MORALLY HIGH GROUND REVOLUTION WAS DESIRABLE?
your argument is literally: millennials fucked up their own development, and not their guardians(boomers)
millennials where literal raised on boomer glory day reenactment of the civil rights era, and you think that's the millennials fault?
>>84263821
>How would schools of thought determine a priori the way people are going to act?
For one thing, society teach you. If you grew during helenism, your view would be influencied by it, even if you diverged from it, you would still have it as a big point of reference.
>People first develop their sociopolitical and ideological leanings and then they go flock to whatever parties they find that match their bents.
You just got yourself into an "who is first, egg or chicken" dilemma.
You can only develop a polítical view under a previous view of the world. Ideas don't born without context or precedence.
>>84263889
>schools of though do not motivate anyone
Kek, you are now using concepts oriflginated from metarialism AND humanism dude. This alone defeat your point.
>which would fucking reinforce my statement about homogenized
Who the hell think that sociology or anything is homogeneous? You never studied anything regarding it right? Because again, there are various schools of thought and theory. Bruno Latour isn't the same thing as Evans Pretchard.
>they are poor classifications of ideas, people can have multiple motivations for having ideas and rarely will that be the school of thought itself,
They are influêncies and comparatively how you build your vision of the world. The entire development of the scientiphic method for example, originate from a school of thought.
>>84262398
Lol Fuck millions of Mutants right. Lets let her back into the Captain America and Iron Man Club. Cyclops said something mean to Black Bolt tho, he is SATAN
>>84264003
Looks like lord Farquad shaved his head.
>>84264108
dude you are now responding to multiple people who think you are off the deep end, with 20+ multi-line responses
all the autism flags are going off for you, give up
>>84263963
>I said mutually exclusive god claims make most of them wrong, by structural nature of "mutually exclusive"
And I said that this isn't ustification for rejecting an idea.
>I said schools of thought without practical application are no better than fiction
But even fiction has pratical aplications.
>>84264010
Edgy.
I mean come on, galactic genocide isn't THAT bad
>>84264197
She hasn't killed anyone though.
>>84264150
Man, just because two people are saying retarded things, it doesn't make them true. You should judge a person by the merits of their arguments. I still want to know for example how someone believe that the basis for culture has no pratical effect on the world.
Also, these kind of conversations are fucking fun.
>>84264100
>and not their guardians(boomers)
Guardians? Hands-free parenthood has been a thing for decades. What guardians? In fact, millennials are what happens when spoiled children grow up without ever ceasing to be spoiled or children. They realize that, oh no, there IS an authority after all - it's called Society. But, millennials rename it as "The Patriarchy" and set out to bring about a Lord of the Flies scenario worldwide.
>>84263759
Nah, some tired diatribe about how women are above reproach and Feminism is really about "equality" and not Female supremacism, or some trendy Bolshevik shit.
>>84264226
She killed a sentient robot.
>>84264197
Aliens have no souls, Its ok yo. Galactic Genocide is only frowned upon when its humanish living things.
>>84264226
So you're telling me the entire population of the galaxy fit inside that one room on the last planet?
She certainly had some offscreen kills, just obviously not shown because it's fucking disney
also bot 13
>>84264192
>And I said that this isn't ustification for rejecting an idea.
mutually exclusive selection with hundreds, if not thousands, of options IS THE PERFECT JUSTIFICATION for rejecting an unsubstantiated idea
>But even fiction has pratical aplications.
"Nice" Diversion.
You have tacitly acknowledged that useless schools are as useful as fiction.
Fiction has uses, but they do not compare to the practical applications of useful schools.
>>84264238
His argument are terrible and he refuses to use the spellcheck function which takes no effort
hes a fucking troll without any substance, who tries to pivot and divert almost every response
>>84264243
Not every retarded millennial is a feminist dipshit (just most)
How the fuck is she considered a feminist icon? Of all characters it's her? Fucking boggles my mind.
>>84264197
The difference is, McCracken doesn't try to make Dominator pass as a good, if conflicted girl in a man's world. She's evil, she knows it and enjoys it.
Take pic related, as a counter-example; Bryke are perhaps the only people who think she is anything but a sociopath with loads of cash and her private queendom populated by made men.
>>84264319
who considers her a feminsts icon?
shes closer to a battered housewife with the joker
>>84264312
The ones that aren't are too busy being lazy, spineless NEETs.
>>84264319
Cuz shez a strong lesbeen
>>84264357
so her whole joker origin and main character trait, has been overwritten by fan shipping?
has she had cannon sex with ivy? or anyone?
>>84264312
By "most" do you mean "about 95%"?
>>84264319
She's a "quirky" Lesbian with a feminist, superhot gurlfriend. She's literally everything feminist women want to be.
>>84264331
I'm really trying to understand your counter example, but i'm missing something because her protege was actually way worse, and i can't fault her directly
Got people on her side killed with her incompetence, had little remorse over it, learned even less and very slowly when she did.
>>84264266
>>84264257
It's a fucking robot and her property she can do whatever the fuck she wants to it and she let everyone off the planet before she blows it up.
>>84264397
its only max 30%, they are just the loudest
>>84264272
>mutually exclusive selection with hundreds, if not thousands, of options IS THE PERFECT JUSTIFICATION for rejecting an unsubstantiated idea
No it isn't. For example multiple scientiphic theories regarding the nature of time don't mean that everyone is false, its the ARGUMENTS that should be discussed. The thing is, you didn't said that X or y is wrong because of a failed cosmological argument or anything, you just said that there are "too many" and I doubt that you know their philosophy to assert what they say.
>You have tacitly acknowledged that useless schools are as useful as fiction.
I said that being fiction isn't more or less important than not being fiction if it is an influence on a school of thought. Nazism for example has its bases on false premises, but still is capable of having a pratical effect on the world.
>Fiction has uses, but they do not compare to the practical applications of useful schools.
Fiction and school of thoughts are two DISTINCT things, be them useful or not, your comparation doesn't make sense. Could you define what makes something more useful than other?
>>84264503
Holy shit you are actually retarded
>>84264319
She got out of an abusive relationship with the Joker, and from then on, has become some sort of anti-hero, and sold consistently well.
The lesbian bit is just extra.
>>84264297
>His argument are terrible and he refuses to use the spellcheck function which takes no effort
My spellcheck is configured to portuguese.
Also, I'm still waiting for a good answer, all that I see is subjective assertions as facts, like determining what is useful or not based on nothing but opinion.
>>84264392
yeah Canon Sex. Its out of character and strange. Shes supposed to be completely fucking off her rocker. And Poison ivy? did't she have a weird thing for Bruce, like all of the women in the rogues gallery?
>>84264526
Upvoted.
>>84262995
Go to a woman's prison, You probably wouldn't last a day...
>>84264557
She lost interest in human men when the universe was reset once. And overall is mostly just written as Harley Quinn's lesbian plant sidekick anyway.
>>84264434
>her protege was actually way worse
Kuvira at least had some noble goals, if only at the start. Suyin's ethos is hoarding money, builda nation of fugitive criminals and pirates, go all "neener-neener" when the kingdom needed and making her estranged sister apologize for getting in the way of her pointed metal whip before being immediately released and granted the consequence-free life she desired in the first place.
Even Lex Luthor comes off as the bigger person before her.
>>84264548
I didn't assert usefulness, I asked for your determination, in the subjects you brought up as useful, which you refused to give,(probably because you have no examples), I then operated as if you hadn't pointed out any usefulness
>Portugesse
why the hell would you not just change it, its a goddamn setting, oh and your excuse has now evolved
also, why the hell would you reveal your subhuman status, is this your first day here?
>>84264463
That's what they said about black people.
>>84264590
The toughest woman in prison couldn't beat the toughest man in prison.
>>84264601
I really think your projecting really hard
>>84264526
And looks like you didn't answered a thing.>>84264272
>Fiction has uses, but they do not compare to the practical applications of useful schools.
Why it wouldn't?
>>84264639
the toughest woman could sure beat your ass tho
>>84264660
There's nothing to project. All that crap happened in the show.
>>84264669
You aren't even making coherent sense now
>>84264708
sure, but your really taking things out of context to even make her look like a villain or even evil
>>84260878
This psycho bitch right here. She constantly went against the turtles and yet she still gets the benefit of the doubt from Leo. She even gets invited to Casey and April's wedding near the end of the series.
>>84264683
That's not the fucking argument you stupid bastard.
>>84264636
But we aren't talking about black people. That robot was created by her and she can do what she wants.
>>84264630
>I didn't assert usefulness, I asked for your determination, in the subjects you brought up as useful, which you refused to give,(probably because you have no examples)
Usefulness of schools of thought? Because of it is the case, I provided here >>84264108
>>84263745
>why the hell would you not just change it,
Already said, I don't care. I talk mostly with people from my country anyway, you can still get what I say.
>>84264764
he said you could not last at a woman's prison so its directly applicable
>>84261462
Fuck my pussy daddy
>>84264764
The robots are black.
>>84264782
>chicken and egg problem is useful
>useful
>not even resolved
>society influences your perception
>therefore the school of though influences you
that's not the school influencing you dude
>any of that useful
seriously just give up, your not that bright, and you have a language barrier to try and overcome in addition to your statements being ass-backwards 80% of the time
>I don't care
see you say that but you brought it up, and then tried to explain it
If you didn't care, you would never have brought it up
Either way at best your just incompetent, if you "don't care" or otherwise
>>84264787
Which contributes nothing to the argument about women being more aggressive than men.
>>84264809
In color.
>>84264879
no one said they where ALL more aggressive
they said that women can also conquer,
they also said physical is not the only path to conquering
why is every misunderstanding on 4chan caused by assuming a hidden "all" in a phrase
>>84264879
>In color.
In what other way can one be black?
>>84264876
>chicken and egg problem is useful
>useful
>not even resolved
But THERE IS A scientiphic answer for the chicken and egs dilemma...
Anyway, what I'm saying is that basically one school of thought is an influence to other. There is always exchange between them, they don't exist isolated, and are also shaped by personal human experience.
>that's not the school influencing you dude
You seem to be interpreting school of thought as some kind of formal thing. I am talking about the lasting effects of a school of thought on how it builds society. Think on all the things that depend on the assertion that "all men are equal and deserve the same rights" come from and how it is an influence on society.
>any of that useful
Ok...you are a troll...if the principles that your country was build and some of its amedaments are useless...there is no hope.
>see you say that but you brought it up, and then tried to explain it
Just said that I don't care enough to change configurations. I see no problem giving an explanation for why.
>>84265062
>>84264503
>scientiphic
>ph
Not him. You're doing that on purpose. Troll confirmed.
>>84264922
I never said all, I meant most.
>>84265040
Come one stop fucking with me, the robots aren't even sentient.
>>84265113
I feel like I'm on reddit where I can use typos as an argument.
I like fun off topic discussions as much as the next guy but I don't think I'm wrong in saying you're all fags and this argument in retarded.
>>84265174
I should probably pick my notebook and go back to /lit/. Because that is entry level sociology.
>>84265157
they never said most either
>not sentient
did you not see the episode?
if it wasn't sentient it makes no sense
>>84262032
There was that one time she thought she was married to Bobby and said that she got to keep seeing her BF while forbidding Bobby from seeing Kahn jr.
>>84260878
>>84263649
She's completely unprepared to take the Iron throne and all the people her powerplay are killing mean less blokes are around to ward off the white walkers
>>84265300
That robot is just a machine, it never had any real feelings and besides it's not a person so why do we care?
>>84265174
>consistent misspelling,
>extra keystroke
>typo
fuck yourself
>>84265381
you really didn't see the episode, and the origional point wasn't about us caring for the robot, it was about dominators kill count, which regardless of your emotional attachment to her robot, would still be part of the count
>>84265434
Robots aren't people are a life form.
>>84262389
new to the series, D&D is what?
>>84265464
>or a life form
Either way her kill count is still 0.
>>84265464
kill counts don't care about that
she definitely destroyed it, why are you hung up on that?
>>84265482
>greentext to correct a typo on 4chins
use a *
>>84262121
When you have retard citizens. It wouldn't work if they were even slightly more intelligent.
>>84265464
Wander would disapprove anon
for shame
>>84265539
Wander saw the good in her like I do.
>>84261778
>>84261818
Don't need them. Finn needs to go on a rampage and kill all the monarchs, becoming undisputed emperor.
>>84265573
I meant wander would disapprove of saying robots aren't alive, at least in this case
>>84265598
I like wander i really do but in this case Dominator doesn't need a kill count.
>>84264734
She's a two-faced person. She Treated Kuvira like a daughter and filled her head with praise and other bullshit, then treats her like garbage the second she decides to do something she feels is right but then treats her son like he was a victim of Kuvira and gladly takes him back even after he helped take over their kingdom and made a giant death robot out of their city's shielding.
>>84265726
>treats kuvira like garbage
after kuvira was subjugating the country side
you do realize all your projecting fall flat compared to what kuvira actually did right?
>takes back her son
she never drove either of them away, they chose to leave
kuvira shoots a lazer at him without hesitation just to kill the rest of his family, and the avatar
>>84263718
What were they thinking when they wrote this? What did he say that was incorrect? He makes solid points, ESPECIALLY the get your own identity thing.
>>84266538
Because those arguments were suspiciously less prevalent when DickBats and BuckyCap were around.
>>84267182
Nah, it sort of ignores shit like Superior Spider-man and Nova.
>>84263437
>that moment you realise Stannis is a better feminist than Dany
>>84262943
just came to make sure this was properly posted. Carry on the good work.
>>84263718
The biggest my-mind-full-of-fuck complaint I have with this is her """""witty retort"""""". Doesn't she just reinforce the very same stereotypes this comic is ever so magnificently combating with the subtlety of a two-by-four nailed to a crowbar? I mean like holy shit how does "Be sure to tell ur fellow big many strong men u got beat by a weak girl lol X3333 ~Thor <333" do anything to paint her as a strong, formidable, or otherwise capable Hero? She doesn't refute a single point the villain raises, and her dialogue seems not only clunky, but completely out of fucking place. He doesn't call her anything. He raises a shit ton of valid points and gets shut down by shitty writing and expositional foreshadowing dialogue.
>>84264461
Pretty obvious you only watched a few episodes early on.
>>84263728
>>84264024
>>84264243
>>84264355
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>>84268477
Not any of those posts but New York now recognizes like 30-something genders.
That's pretty retarded, man.
>>84266143
Main difference between Suyin and Kuvira would be that Kuvira is recognised as a villain, while Suyin is portrayed as in the right, when she really isn't.
Don't get me wrong, Kuvira did way worse things, but Suyin is a hypocrite and selfish in the extreme even to the detriment of other peope.
