Like a mystery
A series of noir books
One dick then another
>>84256205
So close I'm surprised they didn't have to pay for his likeness.
>>84256205
Are you ready for mister Duckdick?
>>84256205
>Howard
>>84256284
Great now I'm reading his lines with his voice
Trash thread is still up, just saying...>>>/trash/3802829
>>84256205
>Are trying to get us all killed
>>84256436
huh, didn't noticed that...
>>84256493
It's okay, Doc is tired, busy day. Grammar is the least of his worries.
>>84256205
Do you...feel in charge?
>>84256607
Tell me about the Duck, why does he smoke?
>>84256205
Mallard: The early years
>>84256205
Every duck we saw so far has been a Disney duck character. This guy however has unusual human-like proportions.
>>84256715
He's more Howard than Donald
Bets on that his name starts with a D?
>>84256848
Richard.
>>84256205
>A Red Bowtie
in case there was any doubt...
>>84257503
>"Don't worry guys, we have finally bring the beers"
anyone have that pic of Professor Mallard's original design? He's standing next to a duck almost identical to the guy in today's strip.
>>84256205
Is it...is it time to write off this comic?
>>84257792
Look at his personal page, there's the pic along with other designs but let me tell you that those two ducks doesn't look like the same. Heh, Aaron seems to have the same messy hair that Al.
>>84257948
What you mean?
>>84257985
Dude. This arc sucks. I may be in the minority here, but so far it has been dreadful.
>>84258013
i wouldn't say it sucks, but it's definitely not as good as unity or the milk trial for sure...
>>84258013
Why? Because Holly is the center?
>>84258047
No because the way he is telling this part of the story is just so dry. These coincidences are a big part of it. Oh hi Marx. Oh, hi professor. It doesn't flow well.
>>84258044
Agreed
>>84258047
aw, come on... just because the guy is not enjoying the arc doesn't mean he's attacking your waifu, why you waifufags get all defensive all the time?
>>84256205
>>84256205
I feel like this flashback is dragging a bit.
We need Wally and Kirby giving some MST3K commentary while watching Ditto-Vision.
Oh I see, but I wouldn't say that it sucks. For me this arc has been good, but no like the other arcs because ineeded, this arc has a lot of problems between the way of how Wally and Co appear and disappear for the convenience of the story, the idea of the buddibombs it's not that believable and it also highlight a problem that the comic has in general: many things or plots resolve or happen by mere coincedence
>>84258088
Now the Marx thing is probably right, but there's no way this is Mallard. If we're going by looks, the clothes and hair are wrong, and he doesn't have the glasses. I'd assume Mallard always looked at least a little like he did, but the only similarities here are that he's the same species, and this new guy claims to be in charge.
>>84258273
Fuck, this was for >>84258088
>>84258150
It would have helped If he has explained himself with his first post
>>84258395
it would, but assuming outright that he hates the arc because of holly is pretty stupid and reeks if waifufaggotry, would have asked why instead...
>>84258273
>>84258293
I think the biggest and most correct thing you hit on was one word. Convenience.
>>84258288
There is no doubt in my mind this isn't Mallard. The hair, the eccentric mannerisms. And, of course, it would make sense in the realm of Aaron's writing.
>>84258229
>I feel like this flashback is dragging a bit.
I have no idea why Aaron keeps sticking to the shitty 4 panel format.
The arc isn't even that bad, it's the format that is awful.
>>84258288
>>84258501
i don't understand why people think this is mallard... He's not the only duck on the universe, and also he was a scientist for apex so we will probably see him with an uniform at the very least.
>>84258549
he's been doing it for years, and it worked fine when he used to update 5 times a day, hell, this arc would be done if he could still update properly... still, i rather have 3 updates a week than dead Aaron and no comic.
>>84258613
>i don't understand why people think this is mallard
>Guys that totally isn't Marx in cat form trust me
>it actually is marx
C'mon dude. It was like, just in the last couple of panels. How can you forget that.
>>84258613
>5 times a day
i meant a week
>>84258636
except this duck looks and acts nothing like Mallard? the only similarity is that he's a duck.
>>84258273
Yeah, I feel the ditto vision is dragging on a bit and has become a bit of a writing crutch (much as the dittos in general have), forgetting its own rules in the process.
Honestly, at this point I'm thinking it would have been a good idea to keep it about Holly, just to show what she went through up to the restaurant, then keep the Endtown exposition for a later flashback or story from Doc, possibly at the end of the arc.
>>84258672
It actually does look like him. Same hair, same mannerisms. That IS Mallard.
>>84258450
Well I don't doubt that there's people who hate this arc for that only reason, but yeah, maybe I take conclusions to quickly. My sincerely apologies to that anon.
>>84258707
>Same hair
>>84258707
>>84258852
crap, forgot to add "of he doesn't shut up..."
>>84258013
Wouldn't say it sucks, but it has been pretty meh. Also I hardly feel any more sympathetic towards Holly. Which was the point to this arc.
>>84258871
>if
I don't have much of a problem with this arc. Sometimes Endtown is better in piecemeal updates because HAPPENINGS build suspense, like Holly's transformation/baby and Unity burning down.
Other times it's better read in chunks. This is just one of those other times.
>>84258273
>many things or plots resolve or happen by mere coincedence
Well that's sort of because the Deus Ex Marxina. Endtown's constantly under tampering by cosmic entities.
>>84258852
I'm not taking a position on whether or not it's Mallard, but keep in mind he basically kept Endtown together for the last half a decade
You ever seen Presidents of the United States before and after their terms? Time and stress age you like a motherfucker.
>>84258892
>Which was the point to this arc.
Actually it isn't, didn't Aaron say that the Arc was about "Life choices and consequences"?, that had nothing to do with fixing a problem or redeeming anyone.
The only problem I have with this Arc is that the pacing slowed way down when we switched to Holly's point of view. Before that things were rocketing along from dramatic moment to dramatic moment.
>>84258941
found it.
>>84258549
>The arc isn't even that bad, it's the format that is awful.
It really seems that the format is fucking him over for this arc, you can see that here he try to make the sequences more "cinematic"? But then the 4 panel cuts him off.
>>84258695
>Honestly, at this point I'm thinking it would have been a good idea to keep it about Holly
Well, in the beginning it really seemed that it was about her, but then Doc takes control and you start asking to yourself: Who's the backstory? It's like Aaron told himself: "now we have Doc, why don't kill two birds with one stone and make it about him too?" the problem is that this makes the arc more long that it should be and it becomes really overwhelming.
Aaron is obviously taking us to see how Endtown started from a place in the sewers. y'know, the massive stream of water under the bridges and that big grating at the end? that's what remains of the sewers? where does the water go and come from? HMMMM....
>>84259132
Don't forget that Endtown is a mile or two underground, though. And it's implied to have been pre-built, not the work of the survivors.
>>84259085
Wow. Is Aaron some kind of pseudo intellectual with a god complex? He isn't as smart as he thinks he is.
>>84256284
I was about to say the same exact fucking thing.
>>84259154
>pre-built
by flask
literally nothing wrong.
>>84259085
This really sums the purpose of this arc: It just about telling what happened to Holly besides establish some other concepts. Whatever conclusions you reach are entirely in your way to see the situation.
>>84259204
There was never an issue thinking that Flask did anything wrong.
>>84259085
>And Chic is going to need some real parental guidance...and probably years of therapy, poor kid.
You have a way to fall Chic...
>>84259353
watching holly's bloody papilla must have scarred him for life.
>>84258013
What do you mea-
>Soapbox Wally, who just has disappeared now
>-Another- ditto flashback
>We know Chase and Holly live already!
>It's taken them a month to cross the fucking street.
Yeah, it's not the best arc. I think the arc will pick up if not soon then in the next arc.
>>84259389
All the shit that he has seen in this arc (plus, whatever that is to come) would make the conversations with his therapist really interesting.
>>84259401
I think this arc it one of those that reads better once that it's over and without having to wait for updates.
>>84258852
>>84258707
>>84258672
If he was Mallard it would explain why Doc doesn't get along with him later.
>>84258707
someone screencap this idiot for when the ducks actual name is dropped
>>84259501
does mallard actually gets along with anyone???
>>84259532
There's someone:himself
>>84259517
Screencap thisLUCRANIANS
>>84259553
They are the dinkleberg of these threads
If that's mallard then he aged badly in five years.
>>84259588
Maybe smoking really fucked him up
>>84258088
Holy shit, how can people think this is mallard?
>>84259048
DUDE, we are getting three updates a week. However consistent that might be, its stil only 12 little windows for 7 days. You can thoroughly digest all of the information got from that in about 2 minutes. 2 minutes of around 5000 you spend awake every week. It used to be 5 pages and it almost fucking killed Aaron.
The point is, we all probably bingeread this entire thing at some point two years ago, up to the boiling point of the Unity arc.
Try to look at it from this perspective, had the Milk trial arc needed to use the same format and move at the same pace as this one, people would probably give it some shit. Maybe not, maybe yes. The thing is, in hindsight, after reading that whole thing at our own paces we can all agree how fucking good and well paced that whole part is.
All im saying is, give this arc time it needs and observe it from another, less instant perspective. Understand that quality pacing requires more than frantic, hyperactive emotional rollercoasting from one extreme to another. You cant know the highs without lows and vice-versa.
I personally have a lot of faith in Aaron, but I also disagree with many, MANY views and points you guys make about the strip. Mainly the everlasting notion this niche fandom has regarding realism, harsh drama, depression, naturalism and their paramaout role as the cornerstone of the strip, rather than an important, but not so crucial pillar.
You all fuckers should sulk less, get outside more.
>>84259532
Al. Remember how he rushed to save him from Flask's introductory power trip?
>>84259619
>up to the boiling point of the Unity arc.
More like broiling point.
>>84259661
i do, remember when Gustine had to break his door down to so he could listen to them?
Mallard while is a prick, he's definitely not a monster and that's why he saved him.
>>84259619
I get your point, all the arcs have high and low points and seems that we are watching the low ones; it just needs time to pick up again. But the having to wait for updates make this feel moere long that it is. After all Endtown is a webcomic, and like all the other webcomics it's better once that is finished.
Hey CARPGAnon, did you write up that summary?
>>84258902
>Deus Ex Marxina.
This is amusing.
>>84256362
Go pound sand
>>84260148
nah, i would pound Farx though...
>>84260204
Too bad because he's deadjust joking, everyone knows that he's still alive
>>84258013
It's been fine, I like seeing the world pre-apocalypse. Looking forward to seeing the first mutie societies too.
>>84260240
Given how Walt describes the first years of Endtown, I said that it's going to be a clusterfuck of psychopaths furries
>>84260286
Your adjective noun agreement is incorrect.
>>84262082
But we're not discussing nothing.
>>84262135
So... we *are* discussing *something*?
>>84262135
yeah, arc has been pretty slow, not much to discuss unfortunately.
>>84256284
Great that voice is stuck now. Thanks fucker.
>>84262298
Not slow, just that things "calmed down" a little and the characters are not doing so much besides talking.
>>84262400
i don't know, i do feel like stuff is slowing down, the human holly sequence, even with all the wally and kirbee commentary, felt a lot more fast paced.
>>84262471
Yeah, but at that time people was also excited to see how Holly lost the baby and that contributed a little with everyone speculating how it would be. Even then, the scene of the escape in the car and the cafe still felt somehow "fast"
>>84262627
Could it be because there was a lot less coherent dialogue in those sections?
>>84262627
well, i am seriously looking forward to seeing day one endtowners at pep stadium... i am seriously hoping to see Allie once more...
>>84262750
I have a sneaking suspicion that might be off the table and reserved for Walt and Dottie's arc, now that it looks like Holly and Doc might have been directed straight to some kind of "underground railroad".
>>84262727
It could be, specially with Farx, even his actions were hard to tell in the last panel of the first time he appears.
>>84262750
I don't know, but as this flashback goes something tells me that you will have to wait until the switch to Endtown to know what happened
>>84262863
well, we will see more endtowners than just Walt and Dottie, a small cameo would suffice...
i wonder if Aaron is actually working on the pinup calendar, even sporadically...
>Burlesque Allie pinups
i just can't wait...
>>84263155
what would you like to see Allie wearing, anon?
>>84264889
A tight corset and some fishnets... hmm...
>>84263155
>>84264994
>Linda in a tight corset and a miniskirt that barely covers her buttcheeks
my god, that calendar is going to be incredibly hot.
>>84265321
When it comes out, at this rate it will come in a bundle along with the new seasons of Symbiotic titan and Megas XLR
>>84265620
>Symbiotic titan and Megas XLR
so, never...
>>84265652
Hey, we get a Samurai Jack final season, there's still hope, little, but it's there
>>84265688
and it's actually shaping to be pretty great, i'm actually hype for the new Samurai jack
>>84264994
You caught me at a good time
/fishnet pun.
>>84263155
More like burlesque Gustine. I mean that is Aaron's waifu.
>>84265913
hahaha that's really cute dk!, i totally see that coming...
>>84265913
Well, Endtown can't give itself the benefit of having lingerie so we have to improvise.
>>84265913
also...
>Cute Allie panties
unf
>>84265913
>literally baited
ha!
>>84265951
>burlesque Gustine
absolutely disgusting...
I hope everyone had nice 4thand not hung over tomorrow at work
>>84265913
Nice!
>>84265913
>>84268438
Has Allie finally becomethe waifu to surpass Kirbee and Holly?
>>84265913
Still cute, even the hooks!
>>84268579
unlikely, but it sure is nice to see allie art since she's a total qt.
also, kirbee hasn't gotten any art in quite a while...
>>84268579
Well, she can't be hurt in the comic anymo-
>parallel dimensions
SHIT.
>>84268579
That's dumb the real question here is:would she the one to suprass the Metal Gear?
>>84269031
>also, kirbee hasn't gotten any art in quite a while...
Most of the drawfags hasn't be here for a while actually...
>>84269228
>There's an alternate reality where Allie is completely clean and hasn't drank a single drop of alcohol
>There's an alternate reality where Allie became Wally's lover and Holly forever stayed a lonesome waitress>There's an alternate reality where Allie wasn't gunned down in an alley and bled to death
>>84269625>There's an alternate reality where Wally was the gunned down in a alley
>>84269625>>There's an alternate reality where Allie became Holly's lover
>>84269905
>There's an alternate reality where Allie is doing Marx's "job" instead
>She's still an aggressive drunk and tends to fuck shit up quite a bit before somewhat fixing it
>Constantly materializes alcohol in her hands every second of the day
>>84270050>There are no alternative realities in which Marx is actually likeable
>>84270122
>There is exactly two realities where the local Marx is likeable
>The first died early in his life to the machinations of I
>The second managed to see several of his alternate versions and grew bitter and sarcastic
>>84270197
>>84263155
Aaron seems to be a bit biased against Allie, he could actually leave her out of it.
>femMarx still makes it
>>84258013
it's gonna get better
So what happens if you see your own buddy bomb as a threat?
>>84273057
step on it
>>84273057
The other bombs will take on it while I escape.
Love me as though there were no tomorrow
Take me out of this world tonight
Take me, make me forget my sorrow
So, when I wake tomorrow, I'll know our love was right
Kiss me as though it were now or never
Teach me all that a heart should know
Love me as though there were no tomorrow
Oh, my darling, love me, don't ever let me go
Love me as though there were no tomorrow
Oh, my darling, love me, don't ever let me go
>>84256205
>I'm in charge here!
...Seriously?
No-one?
>>84273679
What about it?
>>84273602
>Hope
what, like Hopeville?because if so, you are a cruel person
>>84273925Not the Divide if you're thinking that. Just a generic name I've used for this
>>84274074
Oh. Okay.
>>84273679
Is it one of those 4U memes you're looking for?
>>84271451
I wouldn't say that he is biased, It's that just like Flask he doesn't understand why some people like her so much. And let's be honest here, waifufaging aside, she doesn't had that much of a impact in the comic, she only broughts Wally to Endtown then she disappears and the next time she shows dies.
>>84275625
she had a minor role true, but that doesn't mean she was not important
>>84275625
also, he never said he didn't like her, at the contrary...
>>84275826
It will be interesting to see how Walter tries to leave the drink, didn't he take it every time he gets nervous?
>>84276047
Yep.
>"Gimme a moment and I'll go find him..."
>takes liquor out
Always funny.
>>84276462
The drinking moments of Walt are always funny
>Saying goodbye to Wally and Flask in their suicide mission in front of the town
>Doesn't knows what to say
>Fuck it and then he starts drinking
>>84276734
He did the same with Al & Gustine.
>>84266807
Faggot.
>>84277316
>>84277463
>Al's hung enough to please a rhino woman
>>84278171
well his arms are thing and long enough...
>>84278201
>thin
>>84273602
Heh, cute.By Endtown rules I bet there's a destroyed colony there.
>>84269438
Punished Allie, A Fallen Waifu
Patreon reward
>>84259085
>R.I.P. Holly
>>84256284
Ducky Thompson from Endtown
>>84280333
man that's so cool...
>>84280333
Oh, how i envy you
>>84280333
>tfw i qualify for postcards
>live in shithole country
>Aaron tried sending postcards twice
>none arived
>Tell Aaron not to worry about it, It's Ok.
>>84280782
Standard international shipping depends on a lot of people giving a fuck in two different countries. It's a matter of one person in said chain to not bother with his work for a card to get lost.
It shouldn't be too expensive to send postcards with tracking, for that matter.
>>84280333
I like how cartoony it looks.
Thanks for sharing,KC.
>>84280333
>"Hey guys remember Farx? He returned...like a postcard"
>>84280399
I don't think he's implying that...
>>84281699
>I don't think he's implying that...
he does seem to be implying that holly is not going to get better after this flashback ends...
>>84283250
What I get for this is that the point of the flashback is about identify life choices with their consequences to that way make a step foward. But again, in the end everything depends on what Holly wants to do with her life...
>>84283395
>life choices with their consequences to that way make a step foward.
this is where i have a problem, having marx jumping around and helping them literally denies her the full consequences of her actions...
>>84283522
Well, you can say that she suffer more or less the concequences of her actions, but yeah the fact of how they found the storm drain could have been better handle that just saying: "It was Marx lol" shit, that part even feels rushed he directly gives them explicit instructions and then fucks off to supposedly "die".
>>84283395
He did make a comment specifically about Holly at one point though, in response to a question, something ominous along the lines of
>"Is Holly going to come out of this in one piece?"
>"Depends on what your definition of "one piece" is."
I like that theory that she's going to leave part of herself behind in the ditto world and it's going to become a corrupted partial copy of her with a ditto body.
>>84283772
>I like that theory that she's going to leave part of herself behind in the ditto world and it's going to become a corrupted partial copy of her with a ditto body.
Let's say that it happens, if the corrupted version awakes that means that we will get a evil version of her, in other words:
>Edgy Holly
>"PAIN MAKES ME STRONGER!"
>says that while unleashing ditto katana
>>84284049
>>says that while unleashing ditto katana
>slices kirbee
best theory
>>84284101
>slices kirbee
>She teleports behind her
>"It was a hologram"
>>84284155
>grabs her with her ~butt
>slams her into the ground
>>84284207
>>84284248
>Kirbee will never smother you with her ~butt
reality is incredibly disappointing...
>>84284366
There's only one way out anon...
>>84284207
>~butt
Stop ~that
>>84284744
silly ~anon, what's the problem?
>>84283772
I think that was my email.
Asked him some other questions, but before that I said I like what's going on so far and hope Holly gets out of this flashback in one piece.
>>84285901
i was expecting holly to just not get better... it never occurred to me it might actually worsen things for her.
>>84286472
I really think whoever's behind it has an ulterior motive - she's being made to relive her journey to Endtown so an enemy can find out some critical information about it. My bet's on an alternate entrance that doesn't rely on the tubes.
The reaction from Lyn was less "This is private" or "You're not helping her enough" and more "Fuck, a fly in the ointment. Do NOT interfere."
I wonder if the sudden lack of Wally, Kirbee and Chic signifies they've been ejected and our viewpoint character is now just Holly, either as a witness or even living out her own memories? We might see her start to "desynchronise" from the replay soon, going "Wait, this feels familiar..." and "Hold on, this has all happened already!"
>>84286710
>I really think whoever's behind it has an ulterior motive>lucranians
>I wonder if the sudden lack of Wally, Kirbee and Chic signifies they've been ejected and our viewpoint character is now just Holly
i think it's just easier and faster for Aaron to ignore wallyxkirbeexchic for now, i mean, they witnessed Ethel's death, even though we never saw them for a second.
>>84283772
>I like that theory that she's going to leave part of herself behind in the ditto world and it's going to become a corrupted partial copy of her with a ditto body.
You people have the stupidest ideas.
>>84286472
>it never occurred to me it might actually worsen things for her
Maybe that thing of the "two Hollys" is very likely to happen. Wally discovers the real intentions of the mastermind behind the ditto illusion and tries to stop him, something goes wrong and the material composition of Holly gets fucked up (after all it makes sense, because we saw her "disintegrate" before entering to the flashback)
>>84286710
>she's being made to relive her journey to Endtown so an enemy can find out some critical information about it.
Now I wonder who would be this enemie and why he wants so bad to now where Endtown is,and why I feel this has something to do with the events of Pep stadium?
>>84286934
i think it's just easier and faster for Aaron to ignore wallyxkirbeexchic for now,
That's true, put them into the scene would have complicated with all the datails that this already have.
> i mean, they witnessed Ethel's death, even though we never saw them for a second.
I'm starting to believe that it doesn't matter how far they are of the place where the flashback it's taking place, they would still hear and see everything.
>>84287781
It's slightly better than my theory that everyone is going to wake up in a bathtub full of ice.Fucking Lucranians. Can't trust 'em
>>84287987
>everyone is going to wake up in a bathtub full of ice
>>84287987
>The Lucranians were interdimensional organ traffickers all this time
>>84288074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hfy2Auauj0
>>84280094
i read that as plushie Allie... now i want an Allie plush doll.
>>84289289
Fuck that, all I want isa buddibomb plush
Even more awkward mutant moments
>>84289872
ha!, i would have been more awkward of someone actually cough him lifting his leg
When will the fucking arc end holy shit. It is so bad
>>84289935
soon►◄↕‼►o►
>>84289935
>another holly hater
>>84290306
It's just one goy. He gets a kick out of trolling Hollyfags more than anything.
>>84290904
probably a kirbro... well, i honestly can't blame him, now that kirbee is literally irrelevant to the story, attacking holly is all they can do now.
>>84291054
>implying that you and >>84289935 aren't the same person
>>84291097
i'm not
>>84291136
Still, attacking a bait with another bait won't resolve nothing
>>84291187
>bait
k
>>84284366
>dat nip slip.
>>84291495
is there a more smug looking species of lizard than geckos
>>84291540
>geckos
has anyone asked Aaron what kidn of lizard kirbee is? or the whole unity community for that matter...
>>84291595
She just seems to be a "lizard", possibily consequence of the cartoon logic
>>84291595
I think someone did at one point and the answer is literally "lizard", like they're a generic mishmash. IIRC one of the emails hinted that that's how anthros mostly work in the Endtown universe - Wally isn't a housecat or a wildcat or a fishing cat, he's just a cat, Holly isn't a field mouse or a house mouse, she's just a mouse... some kind of cartoon logic again.
>>84291644
>>84291660
i see, well, it kind of feels like he's been applying that cartoon logic late in the game, catnip cat from the restaurant sure looks like a bobcat, also there's the lion who stole his backpack.
>>84291765
Lions are not essencially cats, they're felines and bobcats could be considered a different species since they're the cross between a lyxn and a normal cat.
>>84291895
Fair enough, i assumed he was "generalizing" every species by the way he describes it...
>>84291765
Right, but the lion guy won't be an asiatic lion or one of the african lions, he'll just be a lion. Similarly the bobcat guy will just be a bobcat, not any of the twelve or something subspecies. I think it goes by what people will recognise (in fact, I think Aaron said exactly this at some point). So some species-complexes get collapsed to a single generic species, while entire orders like lizards get condensed into a single thing too.
>>84291987
>i assumed he was "generalizing" every species by the way he describes it...
What he is generalizing is the concept of the animal per se. You can see how there's different types of mutant birds (roosters, geese, ducks, etc.) if he was generalizing every species as one they would look like Chic, all belong to the same category but they have enough characteristics to differentiate from each other, let's put it in this way: if someone told you "think in a normal bird" you would think in Chic but then if the same person told you "think in a duck" you would think in Mallard. Both of them are birds but their designs are very different.
The case with the cats in the other hand goes like this: if you told me "think in a black cat" I will think in one, if then you told me "think in a white cat with black dots and a stripe pattern" I will think in one, both have differents designs but in the end they're the same thing: a cat, and that means they share the same physical characteristics, because when you hear "cat" you already know how a cat is, and when you hear "bird" you think in some generic bird like Chic, and then you hear "duck" you already know what it is and why is different from a normal bird. Hope that this help you to left it more in clear.
