>>84236402
mike and dave need wedding dates tv tropes
He got murdered by his asshole son's wife because he groomed a family of treacherous assholes by being a treacherous asshole.
>>84236402
>>84236402
In fairness, he was potentially a virgin until he was like, 70.
>>84236436
You're getting your Sozins and your Azulons mixed up.
>>84236436
that was his son, Azulon who got murdered.
>>84236443
didn't he get murdered by Robin?
>>84236402
He spent his last few years as a paranoiac terrified his friend was going to come back to life and kill him.
>>84236436
That's his son.
>>84236443
Shot to death.
>>84236402
He might have got away with everything in life, but in his mind he is riddled with guilt, regret and shame.
>>84236486
> guilt, regret and shame
Firebenders don't feel those things.
>>84236576
Ozai, pls go
>>84236402
>>84237164
DON'T REMIND ME!!!
>>84237135
what did she do wrong?
>>84237503
Brought about the apocalypse.
>>84237164
DELETE THIS
>>84236402
This one right here. Caused S02-S03-S04 of her own show. Still got away with it.
>>84236443
Worse yet, Joker died in a way that he found to be completely uncomical. For him, that must be the worst possible fate.
>>84238373
Fuck you.
What were her options?
>>84238553
She was supposed to sneak back into the Palace, even though that risked her children being killed and despite the fact that she couldn't bend and has no combat training, and also the fact that the Earth Kingdom's best spies hadn't been able to do that in 100 years of warfare, and kill Ozai and break out her children and sneak them out of the Palace and capital without any Fire Nation soldiers stopping them.
>>84237164
What did he do?
>>84238696
Organized crime and a few attempted murders.
He also broke his own son's leg and framed him for his crimes.
>>84238270
DAMN IT!!!!Galaluna will never be free
>>84236402
Not /co/ related but pic related was so strong MC gave up and let him become god.
>>84236576
Ozai pls gozai
>>84238553
>What were her options
not treat Azula as a monster
>>84236402
>>84238553
How about instead of giving Ozai the magic untraceable poison so he can murder his way to Fire Lord, hoping he'll be a nicer dad and husband in return, she uses the magic untraceable poison on Ozai like a good mother who takes charge of protecting her children?
>>84236402
This has always bothered me.
Imagine the conflict for Aang if he had to directly confront the man who ordered the genocide of the airbenders.
Ozai has nothing on Sozin.
>>84239511
Man I fucking hate this bitch. Even the comic did nothing to rectify the unjust hate she has for her daughter.
>>84239511
maybe if azula wasnt a monster we wouldnt have this problem
>>84241056
Bullshit Azula literally did nothing wrong. Ursa was the real monster playing favorites with her children.
>>84236470
>>84236474
>>84238462
He needed to be shown there's another way! Killing him makes them just like him!
>>84241082
>>84241017
I am just so sick of you Azula faggots
>>84241082
>azula did nothing wrong
except for everything
>>84241082
>Azula literally did nothing wrong
Her backstory does not excuse or justify her later actions, it just provides an explanation.
Ozai was the more abusive parent anyway.
>>84241138
>>84241191
You tell me one thing was "evil" and I'll tell you why it's bullshit.
>>84241230
>Ozai was the more abusive parent anyway.
Which makes her more the victim.
>>84239679
>grandpa order her husband to kill her beloved son
>mysteriously her husband die
Oh Geez, nobody would suspeito her! Azulon would see it miles away and make her be raped and burned alive for killing the Royal family. She managed to desapear in part because Ozai was into the conspiracy to get the throne.
>>84239511
Haha
Go home Scrapper. Azula had the textbook behavior of a psycopath as a child. She was a monster in training.
>>84241234
everything she's seen doing in the series
you can come up with any reason you want as to why she does it
but she does those things
and they are evil
>>84241250
Yeah? Nobody is going to deny that Azula was a victim of abuse in a different way than Zuko was, it just does't justify what she did.
Just like how Zuko saying "sorry" and deciding to turn against his dad doesn't make up for the shit he did to the Gaang, and that's why he had to make amends with them.
>>84241234
Throwing fire into baby turtleducks.
Wishing her uncle to die.
Taunting Zuko and being glad that he will be killed.
Being a cunt with her friends.
>>84241254
>Azula had the textbook behavior of a psycopath as a child. She was a monster in training.
Except she realizes she isn't happy and wants to be a better person.
>>84241265
And yet Zuko has done worse and is heralded as a hero. Give Azula a chance to be that hero.
>>84241291
Except Zuko had support, Azula has no one to help her.
>>84241296
She was lashing out for the abuse she suffered.
>>84241291
Ozai probably had a harsher time with his dad anyway, judging by how judgemental and mercyless he was with him.
Azulon probably got it easy in comparacion.
>>84241296
>Being a cunt with her friends.
She's a damn princess, there is literally no reason why she couldn't just told Ty Lee to deal with it and come with her instead of pulling that whole murder attempt thing.
>>84241328
Do you honestly believe Ty Lee was in any danger? Azula had faith in her ability.
>>84241311
Didn't she used to harm/kill animals, torture her brother and actively treated everyone like shit?
>>84241328
She wants to make Ty lee CHOOSE her. She is using fear to "have friends", she wants to keep the ilusion to herself that Ty lee has a choice.
>>84241311
>And yet Zuko has done worse and is heralded as a hero
Like what?
zuko never really did anything outright evil
in fact he was banished because he was trying to save people
>>84241358
You're missing the point because your face is so far up Azula's ass. It doesn't matter how good Ty Lee was, Azula ordered her to do all that dangerous shit because she was trying to punish her for turning her down.
You don't do that if you're friends with someone.
>>84241311
>Do you honestly believe Ty Lee was in any danger? Azula had faith in her ability.
>attempted murder is okay as long as you believe the person wont die
This guy, is un-fucking-believable!
>>84241311
>Except she realizes she isn't happy and wants to be a better person.
Huehuehue
The Beach shows that she don't ser any problem with being a monster anymore. This is why she can use lighting, she doesn't have conflicts.
There was also Bryke saying that THE OTHER way to use lighting without "piece of mind" is by being a fucking sociopath.
So anyway, she is a horrible person.
>>84241311
>>84241321
Again, being abused doesn't justify what Azula did. It doesn't matter if she was lashing out, she was doing it in a way that hurt other people. At most it means she deserves a chance to turn herself around like Zuko did, but so far she continuously refuses to take it. She's going to get herself killed at the rate she's going.
>>84241427
Why are you namefagging?
>>84241442
I was not justifying Azula.
I was saying that Ozai probably got it worse with his own father, but he doesnt have an army of people saying that he did nothing wrong, BECAUSE he isn't a cute girl.
>>84241485
Oops, I misunderstood, my bad.
>>84241363
That doesn't make a person evil. Especially when the majority of those things happened at a young age.
>>84241375
bullshit he backstabbed the one guy who was trying to help him be a better person.
>>84241401
If Ty Lee was a good acrobat as Azula was never in any real danger same with people who handle bears i the circus.
>>84241410
The circus wouldn't be around if there weren't elements of danger to it.
>>84241437
Bryke is full of shit because in that beach episode you are talking about we clearly see Azula being affected by what she thinks of herself which ultimately leads to her breakdown.
>>84241442
Not everyone is perfect it is the heart we hold that makes us the person we are. azula has a heart of gold as far as I can tell.
>>84241082
Yes she did.
Azula was the way she was as a direct result of Ozai's actions. He molded her into the monster that she was. Perhaps if Iroh and Ursa played a bigger role in mitigating the damage Ozai had done, then Azula wouldn't have been so completely fucked up.
But that doesn't excuse her actions. She doesn't get a free pass for having what is essentially the anal prolapse of childhoods.
>>84241516
>azula has a heart of gold as far as I can tell.
No she doesn't. Deep down Azula is not secretly a good person, she's a hurt person who has the *potential* to be good. There's a big difference.
Zuko was a character where deep down he was a good person.
>>84241516
>this much denial
she's evil
no matter what reasoning or motivation for her doing whats she's doing
shes evil
and there is nothing to say to change that
>>84241526
>Perhaps if Iroh and Ursa played a bigger role in mitigating the damage Ozai had done, then Azula wouldn't have been so completely fucked up.
And as far as Ursa went, while she wasn't perfect herself, she was trapped in an abusive situation herself. Iroh was never around and even if he was we don't know how things would have been since it sounded like he had written Azula off years ago.
Really, the root of all the issues Zuko, Azula and Ursa have can be traced back to Ozai.
>>84241516
Oh its Scrapper.
You can put your name buddy.
I heard that you can make him go away by showing that r63 Zuko has bigger tits than Azula.
So go away.
>>84241613
fairly certain you can just report him
he was banned for a reason
>>84241526
You are confusing her with a person who is completely unfeeling. She is affected by the actions of her father and it eats away at her which shows that she has a heart. She needs people to support her rather than write her off as crazy.
>>84241559
Bullshit we have never seen her in a spot where she has learned morality so we cannot make that judgement.
>>84241560
Tell me why she is supposedly "evil." you can't because she did it all for her father.
>>84241613
You sorry sack of shit this isn't even canon. Azula is pure perfection.
>>84241613
Also I'm not Scrapper I'm just a guy who agrees with what he says.
>>84241659
>Tell me why she is supposedly "evil." you can't because she did it all for her father.
becuase the deeds she did were evil
the reason behind it doesnt matter
and even better was that she was never actually forced to do it
>>84238696
Fucked Gwen
>>84241254
Nobody said anything when Azulon died, I doubt Ozai would be any different.
>>84241604
>since it sounded like he had written Azula off years ago.
That's the sad part here, isn't it? Azula basically just got tossed under the bus. Ursa probably figured she could only save one of her kids from Ozai's influence, so she latched onto Zuko since Ozai had less interest in him. And like you said, Iroh had already written her off -likely because he knew there was no helping Azula once Ozai had already gotten his hooks in her.
Poor bitch was born a prodigy, but fated for damnation the moment she squirted out Ursa's clown hole.
>>84241659
>Bullshit we have never seen her in a spot where she has learned morality so we cannot make that judgement.
Well there was The Search and even in the end her one moment where she actually did something "okay" was undone by Smoke and Shadow where she went even further off the deep end by convincing herself that by stirring up shit in the Fire Nation she was actually indirectly the real Fire Lord.
>>84241681
That's wrong, you cannot justify her actions as evil because she was dragged into a war her father started and she was just a soldier of war.
>>84241700
You seemed to have skipped the part where she admits to completely abandon her going for the throne and wants Zuko to be the best Fire Lord he can be.
>>84241726
And she says something to the effect of what I said. She's not making Zuko ruthless because she honestly believes in him, it's because she wants him be the Fire Lord SHE would have been.
>azulafags
>>84241726
>you cannot justify her actions as evil because she was dragged into a war her father started and she was just a soldier of war.
I can becuase its true
what she did was evil regardless of the reason
on top of that there was multiple things she did willingly
>>84241686
Because Ozai covered her.
>>84241659
Stay mad Scrapper.
Am I the only person who never really liked Azula? I didn't even find her that hot either tbqh.
>>84241726
Does attempted murder of the avatar not count as evil? I mean, murdering in general is bad and she literally hits him in the spine with a bolt of lightning. And yes, zuko attempted to kill Aang too so put the strawman away cause Zuko ended up actively trying to make up for his mistakes while azula never reached out to anyone.
>>84241770
I'm on the same boat
In fact I liked just about every other girl in the series besides her
she was kinda shitty
>>84241686
>Nobody said anything when Azulon died, I doubt Ozai would be any different.
She had to fucking run.
Ozai wouldn't care to track her down, because he wanted his father dead and needed a way to make it look natural.
Azulon would have noticed that she killed her own husband in a useless attempt to prevent her son to be killed.
>>84241785
she also tried to kill Iroh and tylee
>>84241770
She was an interesting villain.
Just it.
Also looked better without the make up.
>>84241819
>Also looked better without the make up.
That she did.
>>84241770
As I've gotten older I find it pretty hard to take her seriously, but it might just be an age thing. Even back then I found the idea of her talking down Lon Feng to be pretty ridiculous and cheesy.
>>84241750
I actually read it more that she was trying to make Zuko into Ozai.
Which makes sense with her warped mental state. Her service to her father was the only time of true stability in her life, if it can so be called that. If Azula turns Zuko into Ozai, she can work for him like she did her father and it'll be like nothing changed.
They can be one big happy batshit crazy family again.
>>84241750
Show me where she says that.
>>84241758
You can't just dismiss her strife because that is what made her who she is.
>>84241764
The only person with bigger breasts is Ty Lee and she's a bimbo so she doesn't matter.
>>84241785
She didn't kill him and Aang believes in her like I do.
>>84241857
>people can change!
>next comic: azula hasn't changed
>>84241857
>>You can't just dismiss her strife because that is what made her who she is.
I never dismissed her strife
I'm just stating that what she did was evil regardless of the reason for doing themwhich isnt a good reason to begin with
>>84241785
Technically everyone she tried to kill was classified as an enemy combatant at the time, so "evil" is not the right word to use.
Shooting him in the back was a dick move, though.
>>84241857
Why didn't she join the avatar like her brother then? If she wanted to change then what was the factor that stopped her redemption?
Are we still talking about OP's post?
>>84238462
Poor joker
>>84241857
You look mad.
>>84241870
She did, did you not read it?
>>84241880
There was literally no one to teach her otherwise, how do you expect her to know these things?
>>84241944
She doesn't know what good and evil is. She didn't have Iroh to teach her what can make her happy inside.
>>84241976
I'm not. I just get peeved that people like you swear a hypothetical situation is canon.
>>84241976
can you post boy azula while you are at it
>>84241801
Nobody even suggested it was her though. She wasn't on the run for murder she changed her face just because she feared Ozai.
>>84241915
She was still a cunt to family and "friends".
And wished death to her uncle and brother.
>>84241994
>There was literally no one to teach her otherwise, how do you expect her to know these things?
thats not the problem though
you can try to justify it as hard as you can
you can put the blame on anyone you want
what she did was still evil regardless of if she was a puppet or not
>>84241834
FACT: All cartoon chicks look better without makeup
>>84241994
>I just get peeved that people like you swear a hypothetical situation is canon.
Oh the irony
>>84238553
Not choosing to forget her children. Not ignoring Azula as a child because from what we have seen it never got about childish teasing, not this serial killer stuff.
>>84241850
This desu
Also I find her design quite bland
>>84242024
I didn't say she wasn't a piece of shit. She is. But none of those things make you evil.
>>84242007
Sure.
>>84242023
Ozai and her killed Azulon in a way to make it look NATURAL. she wasn't on the run because it worked and both were into it.
Anyone can tell that Ursa killing Ozai right before an order for him to kill her son is obvious.
Killing Azulon, the only other guy that knew it, was the only way.
>>84242072
Well, define evil.
Because saying "daddy will kill you haha lol" is pretty fucked up.
>>84242028
She never did anything bad though. All that she has done is okay in war.
>>84242080
That's fucking disgusting why would you even post that?
>azulafags wouldn't defend Azula if the genders were swapped with zuko
>>84237792
I wanted to like Suyin but they just kept ramping up her bitchiness. Her being so harsh to Kuvira was the final straw, fuck her.
>>84241850
Her "speech" to the Dai Li was trite, childish and unispiring drivel that any edgy 12-year-old could write into their fanfic. And yet the Dai Li agent that passed info to Long Feng called her "inspiring, but also fearsome" or something like that.
Same with Amon in TLOK. Telling over showing, and not even good telling. I guess Bryke either have trouble writing speeches or they have no knowledge of oratory. Or both.
>>84242042
>burning animals is childish teasing.
>>84242107
So you only like your waifu because of her body? Tsic tsic.
>>84242160
>burning animals is childish teasing.
Its becuase he does it himself and doesnt want to admit he is a psycho
>>84238553
To die before her children as was her duty.
>>84242160
But she didn't actually do it
>>84242160
she's not my waifu but I see her as a daughter. If Azula was a male he would have to bear more responsibility
>>84242080
Azulon dying right after giving an order to kill their son is pretty suspicious
>>84242218
thats sexist scrapper
>>84241437
What? They still went with that? I thought they tossed the entire concept out and just said any asshole firebender can toss lightning like it's no harder than walking upright.
Side note fuck Legend of Korra.
>>84242155
World leaders like Mussolini and Hitler talked like edgy 12 years old when trying to beast how awesome their cause was.
>>84242125
Zuko would be an 10/10 waifu tho.
>>84242224
But only AZULON knew about it. See?
And he was the only one that WANTED it. Get it?
>>84242231
It's not sexist it's admitting women are different than men. No where did i say they were weaker. Male Azula would need support as well but not to the extent Azula does because males are naturally to inclined to bear that burden.
>>84242241
Watch a speech by Hitler or Goebbels and then rewatch the scene with Azula and the Dai Li. It's not just about the words; it's also about the prose and the metric and the energy.
I'm sure she's proud of it and of the popularity it earned her, but I for one think Azula is one of Grey DeLisle's weakest roles yet.
>>84242283
no thats literally the definition of sexism though
if oyu honestly think that men dont bear the same guilt as women then you are sorely wrong
>>84242102
Profoundly and irredeemably immoral, malevolent, depraved, and/or wicked. Especially when regarded as a supernatural force.
And yes, taunting someone about their potential death is fucked up. Azula is one intensely fucked up individual and anyone who says anything ever remotely to the contrary is a fucking retard. But she's also not irredeemable; the comics, at least, have shown that she understands she's fucked up but tries to push it down and deny it to maintain some small grasp on sanity. She has the potential to get better.
That alone is proof Azula isn't evil. Evil doesn't care what mommy thinks, or what big brother thinks. Evil doesn't wrestle with doubts about whether or not it's doing the right thing. Evil doesn't break down in years when it realizes its fears may have been validated.
Azula isn't evil. She's fucking crazy and needs intense psychiatric help and heavy doses of antidepressants, but she's not evil.
>>84237503
Acted like a 12y/o girl (admittedly with terrifying results). Bitch shoulda acted her age.
... Oh wait.
>>84242042
>Not choosing to forget her children
Honestly I chalk that up to bad writing trying to explain why Ursa didn't run back to the Fire Nation capital after she heard Zuko was on the throne with a sort of in-story justification that she mentally wasn't in a good place and just wanted to forget all of the pain she had gone through the past few years.
>>84242312
They handle it differently. It's the same level of guilt but there is a difference between how the sexes handle it. Azula in this case would need more emotional support and there is nothing wrong with that.
>>84242353
except that your logic is incredibly sexist
>she's a girl so she can do literally no wrong and will never be her fault becuase she just needs a hug
>He's a man so everything that happens is 100% evil and is impossible to be redeemed
>>84241946
He's basically the only villain ever who's gotten more dangerous as the series went on. Shame the reboot (heh) of it is probably gonna turn Megabyte into a shit bad guy.
>>84242155
I found it ridiculous that the Dai Li fell in line behind her so easily. Even though she's pretty iconic she's also laughable in terms of execution. Amon at least was charismatic and played to people's grievances instead of just saying something like "LOL i'm better than you because i'm royalty now i'm gonna psychoanalyze you 'cause i'd know how to do that as a 14 year old girl".
>>84242469
Shit like this Is why I can't take ATLA seriously
I mean, what the fuck? This is the same show that features war and genocide, right?
>>84237792
That show's writing was so fucking haphazard. It couldn't handle moral ambiguity at all.
>>84242486
Well to be fair 75% of Azula's interactions were with characters her own age, so it's easy to see how and why she'd be scarier to them. Even with her own soldiers she had the advantage of being royalty so of course nobody is not going to take her seriously.
The situation with Lon Feng and the Dai Li though, was just weird and bad writing, but they needed Ba Sing Se to be captured to show how bad things had gotten in book 3.
>>84242486
It features dite war and genocide lite.
>>84242393
Stop twisting my words I never said the guy is evil.
>>84242469
To be honest the avatar was fucking up their control over the City.
If Aang managed to get away with it the Daà Li might be fucked. By joining Azula they still keep the power by allowing the FN to take over the capital.
>>84242566
you straight up said that he has to take responsibility but since azula is female she gets a free pass
>>84242567
So essentialy, joining Azula was a way to use HER to get away with all their unethical acts?
>>84241230
>>84241265
>>84241296
>>84241254
you guys forget that Azula is basically a child soldier. You can't really say she had any saying in what she did.
Also, kid azula was misguided because of awful parents.
>>84242585
Symbiotic relationship. Everyone gets what they want.
>>84242787
Can you reread the parts saying she was abused doesn't give her a pass for all the bad things she did?
NOBODY is in this thread has denied that Azula had bad parents or that she was abused too, but all that does is provide an explanation for how she turned out, not an excuse. She's not even your typical child soldier and had probably never once been outside the Fire Nation before Ozai sent her after Zuko.
>>84238696
Never apologized
>>84242582
Azula needs more support that's all i said.
>>84242883
>Can you reread the parts saying she was abused doesn't give her a pass for all the bad things she did
and what could she do exactly? refuse an order from the fucking firelord? It's not only about 'having a pass', it's about not having a choice.
>>84242956
but if she were a boy then he would have to take responsibility for his actions
because he isnt a girl
>>84242979
She enjoyed everything she did, fuck off
She's literally one of the evilest characters I've seen in any cartoon
>>84242979
Doesnt explain the things she did on her own like ba sing se
she willingly did that and was happy about it
ozai didnt have any say in the matter
>>84242979
>It's not only about 'having a pass', it's about not having a choice.
That's implying Azula ever disagreed or wanted to defy her father.
>>84242987
HE would take on responsibility.
>>84243070
becuase he isnt a girl
thats called sexism
>>84243073
Azula just needs support that's not being weak.
>>84243006
>>84243018
>She enjoyed everything she did
that excuse won't roll with any judge; "i had sex with that kid, but she enjoyed it so it's okay"
>>84243009
I don't think you go to conquer the entire enemy capital without orders from the firelord
>>84242515
It wasn't even just that. It portrayed Suyin as admirable for her behavior.
Combined with the Equalist plot and the fact that Mike is doing "The talented elite are dragged down by the lowly masses who hate them for their superiority" AGAIN with his upcoming book makes it extremely obvious that the guy's a huge Objectivist.
>>84243437
>I don't think you go to conquer the entire enemy capital without orders from the firelord
It was a pretty blatant plot point of the episode that Azula saw an opportunity on her own and seized it.
>>84243437
That's not a good comparison because violent teenagers can be tried as adults.
>>84244224
>It was a pretty blatant plot point of the episode that Azula saw an opportunity on her own and seized it
i don't think that was ever stated
>>84244268
>violent teenagers can be tried as adults
let me guess, you live in the United States where even 10 years old can go to jail
>>84243345
>being unable to do the same as a man without support
That's called being weaker than someone. If you say Azula needs support solely for being a woman, guess what chief:you're fucking sexist.
It's also sexist to assume that a man wouldn't need the same support that a woman does.
>>84243437
>that excuse won't roll with any judge;
Well, it ain't a perfect world is it?
If kids can consent to altering their bodies with hormones and estrogen pills, then they can consent to sex
>>84243437
>i had sex with that kid, but she enjoyed it so it's okay
It would if she was on trial and not someone else
a better comparison is
"I fucked that kid, but its okay becuase I enjoyed it"
>>84244078
>AGAIN with his upcoming book makes it extremely obvious that the guy's a huge Objectivist.
>implying Mike is even smart enough to understand objectivism
>>84244646
What's weak about it? Asking for help is a powerful thing to do.
Scrapper pls go.
You said you would fuck off if you were wrong about Smoke and Shadow and not only were you way off, you were also banned.
>>84244960
I'm not scrapper but he is correct about his prediction, he saw how she was redeemed and wants to make her brother a better fire lord and we should all be proud of her finally being the person she was meant to be.
>>84245021
>how she was redeemed
she wasnt though
>>84245021
>but he is correct about his prediction
>Scrapper
>ever correct
please put on a trip so everyone can filter you
>>84245021
>the person she was meant to be.
Still crazy, still manipulating people into remaining close to her and stirring up conflict in her own country so she can manipulate Zuko like a puppet?
>>84245061
>>84245068
She stated it clearly in the comic that she no longer is going to pursue the throne and wants to make Zuko great.
>>84245136
>Still crazy, still manipulating people into remaining close to her and stirring up conflict in her own country so she can manipulate Zuko like a puppet?
No she isn't pay attention to the fucking comic.
>>84245140
She wants Zuko to be great the way Ozai or she would have been great, by being a tyrant.
>>84245140
by actively trying to make him crazy
>literally nobody in the comic except azula thinks what she's doing is a good thing
>NO YOU GUYS AZULA IS TOTALLY REDEEMED THIS IS HER DESTINY
>>84244773
>Objectivism
>Smart
>>84245178
>>84245190
>>84245205
She never stated that, she just wants him to be more assertive, also the story isn't over just yet so we are going to see her true plan carry out and she will be a family again with Zuko. I will make the prediction she will pop up again in the future a little more docile.
>>84244691
>If kids can consent to altering their bodies with hormones and estrogen pills
only in retarded countries this is possible.
>>84245268
>Zuko I'm going to help you be more assertive by actively causing dissent in my own home country instead of, I dunno', offering my services to you like a normal fucking human being
Bitch can't even accept that Zuko doesn't want to be her enemy anymore and think that's the only way they can ever exist.
> also the story isn't over just yet so we are going to see her true plan carry out and she will be a family again with Zuko
No shit, it's just getting really boring at this point, not to mention Yang can't write a person struggling with mental illness for shit.
Fuck this mind raping bitch.
>>84245381
Azula is showing her love in her own Azula way. you cannot compare her to a normal person because she was not raised as a normal person. We all have to give her time and let her do her thing because it's what's best for her and once she realizes she is in a safe environment and among friends she will be more loving by our standards,
>>84245582
>We all have to give her time and let her do her thing
Innocent people could be hurt or killed.
>>84245600
She isn't a murderer.
>>84245644
>>84245644
Isnt' she actually the only confirmed killer in the show? She did kill Aang for a short time or at least intended to.
>>84237135
A picture of Alex would be more accurate. It's not Mabel's fault she was made about as important to the narrative as Wendy.
>>84236402
>implying he was a villian
>>84245912
>villain
Herr Major did nothing wrong!
>>84236443
>>84236470
>>84236474
>>84238462
Comic Joker is still getting away with everything though.
>>84245660
Her kill count is still 0
>>84245792
Aang is still alive.
>>84245805
Being God is not a crime.
>>84245255
That's the point.
Objectivism isn't smart at all and Mike still doesn't get it.
>>84246026
I seem to recall Aang mentioning actually dying before being brought back to life, so she did kill him. As if attemptet murder wasn't bad enough.
>>84246089
She just put him in a coma.
>>84246129
I like how you're trying to argue this point as if Azula wouldn't have given a shit if Aang died. You're not a real Azula fan if you keep thinking she's just some naive little girl who doesn't really know or understand what she's doing.
>>84246129
> Attempted murder
Nah, he's in a coma so it doesn't count.
>>84246129
If true it just means she failed at murdering him.
>>84246165
I'm an Azula fan because I see she hates herself and I want her to be happy for herself. I have done a lot of what she has done and I want her to know she can have a better life and not be so hard on herself.
>>84246177
It doesn't
>>84246194
I don't think she has it in her to kill someone.
>>84246129
We saw the avatar line disappear, he died
>>84246210
>I don't think she has it in her to kill someone.
Ohhh my god.
>>84246210
>tries to deliberately kill Aang with lightning
>doesn have it in her to kill
It's not about what you think, her actions speak for themselves.
Does 4chan just love Azula?
You guys are just debating about Azula and that's it.
Can we just say she's a bitch and just call it a day?
>>84246296
You don't understand, because I can relate to Azula it means she actually is me and because I wouldn't actually kill someone means neither would she. She was just trying to knock Aang over.
>>84246210
Fire Lo I know it's you, fuck off.
>>84238389
>Still got away with it.
>poisoned, paralyzed for years, deprived of her powers, plagued by PSTD and crippling depression
>got away
Korra suffered for all the mistakes she made, don't pretend she got out scott free
>>84246309
>Does 4chan just love Azula?
She's an underage violent girl with daddy issues, of course she's popular on here.
>>84246324
Time to call it a night boys!
>>84236402
>>84246228
Happened to Korra and she didn't die.
>>84246233
She really doesn't. Tell me when she has killed someone.
>>84246296
If she wanted to kill him he would be dead already.
>>84246379
I have hurt animals and my family but that doesn't make me a monster. Azula has to find that in herself and make herself happy.
>>84246433
>If she wanted to kill him he would be dead already.
Which is why he said he died. Either she actually did kill him or she failed at killing him, either way her intent was very clear.
>>84246324
Wow! That's some very sound logic.
Clearly we common folk can not even compare to you.
Somebody give this guy an "I Tried" reward.
Because he gave us the most solid answer to on a one sided topic that proves we are all wrong.
Congrats bro.
>>84246471
Why did she never go back and finish the job then? Azula never wanted to really kill him.
>>84246379
>>84246485I was mocking them...
>>84246506
Because Katara got them out and then the Gaang went incognito.
>>84246537
She has been ruight next to Aang a few times after that.
Holy shit Azulafags are as delusional as those 12 year old goth girls on Tumble defending the Columbine shooters.
Lmfao
>>84246581
I have a feeling we're all falling for some massive b8 because I've never encountered an Azula fan that was this ignorant.
>>84242323
That excuse doesn't really work when you realize dipper would never do the same thing
>>84246604
You have never heard of Scrapper before, have you?
>>84246634
Heard of him but I assumed it was Firelo under another name.
>>84246604
usually when they're this bad they have a trip
>>84246581
No we aren't. It's just one guy called Scrapper. He's a piece of shit that gives the rest of us a bad name.
>>84246644
Find a /co/ archive and see his posts. The guys is insane and a thousand times worse than Firelo.
>>84244691
>If kids can consent to altering their bodies with hormones and estrogen pills, then they can consent to sex
Wow, you're really not smart
Remember that time Azula threatened to throw a captain off his own ship unless he risked his ship and crew being dashed on rocks?
>do the tides command this ship?
YES, AZULA, THAT IS HOW THE OCEAN WORKS.
>>84239191
but anon...he's the mc
>>84238696
>What did he do?
your waifu
Wow, oh wow. I was just having a lovely thought about how Azula is a purely heartless, evil sociopath with no capability for feelings or empathy.
>>84246624
but that's dipper's thing
notice all the other children in the show besides dipper, and you'll notice that they act like, oh, i don't know, FUCKING CHILDREN
of course didn't act like that, he didn't act like any of the kids, he was fucking above his fucking age mentally
>>84246842
She didn't mean it, it was just an empty threat.
>>84247250
You're the heartless one if you are thinking that.
>>84236402
Why did everyone forget what this monster did in AoU?
>>84247289
You're waifu will never be real
She never acknowledge you defending her online
How does this make you feel?
>>84247338
Her happiness is all I care about. If she is happy then I am.
Does this nigga not sleep?
How long has he been defending his evil cartoon waifu?
>>84247350
But she's never happy. Shes never been happy. The only time she's happy is when she's trying to kill people.
>>84246573
The only times (in the show at least, haven't read the books) she was near Aang after that was the Day of Black Sun and when she attacked the Western Air Temple, when, y'know, she was trying to blow it all off the cliff while Team Avatar was still on it.
>>84247382
As long as it takes to get it through your head she isn't evil and not my waifu.
>>84247424
She has to find peace within herself.
>>84247450
The comic too.
>this much Azula defending
Holy shit
How anyone could think Azula is anything but evil is pretty mind boggling.
Azula's only interesting as an evil character anyway. Trying to woobify her takes away the only things that ever made her entertaining.
>>84247562
Because I can see a person behind the facade.
>>84247609
You just find attractive with no consideration for her feelings.
>>84238270
NOW I'M MAD
FUCK
>>84236402
>implying Sozin was Wrong
It was his dick son Azulon that led the war, not him.
He was a great man who wanted a world of peace and unity.
>>84247643
>no consideration for her feelings.
Yes, because she's a fuckin fictional character who serves no purpose beyond entertaining me.
>>84246624
Pft, he totally would. If Ford hadn't actually told him what the thing was and what would happen he would have sold it to, I don't know, see Wendy's tits or whatever retarded thing he wanted that week.
>>84247674
Sozin literally did the genocide
>People defending the fucking fire nation
literally "muh evil civilazation"
what in the actual fuck
>>84247752
They need to check their Fire Nation privileges.
>>84244884
sexist against meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
>>84247680
You sound like a fucking jerk demanding for things to entertain you.
>>84247890
It's not sexist.
>>84247752
I mean the Avatar world is stuck in an endless cycle of chaos, in which the Avatar has to set shit right every time. Uniting all the kingdoms isn't necessarily a bad idea, although a huge scale war and genocide wasn't the ideal way to do it.
>>84247733
Check the timeline. There is no way Sozin led it.
Azulon took advantage of his father's paranoia and old age to twist his dreams for a world united out of spite for never being there for him, because he was the Fire Lord first and visionary second.
That, and the Air 'Nomads' are fucking terrifying.
>>84247921
Hate to break it to you bud, but TV shows are literally a form of entertainment
>>84247958
Sozin says in the flashback episode (Avatar and the firelord i think) that he used the comet, later named Sozins comet, to eleminate the Airnomads.
>>84247958
Unless he spent the last years of his life wandering around the South Pole for no damn reason he very likely led it.
