>"Ant-Man" had a better Lex Luthor than "Batman v Superman"
What went wrong?
Do you bleed, OP?
He was really bland though
>>84215787
Do you ding, ding, ding, anon?You will.
>>84215776
is Zach Snyder the most hated person on /co/ AND /tv/?
>>84215803
Which is really saying something since he was still better than Lex.
>>84215807
Oh, you touch me ta la la
>>84215818
Eh. I still hate his direction but the Ultimate Cut actually works as a movie. Not a particular you good movie but it's not the hot garbage the theatrical cut was.
Still don't want him on JL but I don't think he's necessarily a bad film maker.
>>84215854
My friend was shocked that this man made the masterpiece Dawn of the Dead
>>84215848
>Severely underrated and I hope he gets to make a comeback.
We really need a bad guy team up movie for the next Avengers.
>>84215868
Pretty much this. He can make a good movie like Dawn of the Dead, 300 or Watchmen if you feeling generous. I think it depends on the type of movie he's making. Also he should never have totally creative control. Other wise you get Suckered Punch
>>84215934
Sucker Punch was good if you take it for what it is - eye candy
A better Ultron than Memetron too.
>>84215965
This.
He wasn't Lex.
He was Ultron.
A "son" of Hank Pym who is a mix of wanting daddy's affection and hating him for not recognizing his potential.
>>84215803
Not really. He only lacked focus.
I actually liked the dialogue between him and Hank Pym.
A shame we didn't get more.
>>84215848
>>84215872
>Fucking shrinks into and upon himself in sections, gets atomized
>"I really hope he comes back"
>>84215958
The tie-in animations had a better plot than the movie.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UIgBoHr18-I
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3tClvCc8m_g
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L6RGS2IL3SY
>>84216187
I think it's best we just accept Ultron for what it is now rather than trying to fix it and making shit convoluted and stupid.
>>84215958
Clearly it was too smart for the room.
>>84216000
He was also a businessman obsessed with his own legacy and a massive superiority complex. That's Lex.
>>84216329
>Clearly it was too smart for the room.
is this a meme?
>>84216374
>He was also a businessman obsessed with his own legacy
Nah it wasn't his legacy he was obsessed about.
It was Pym's.
He wanted to be Hank's heir and son.
But Hank spurned him.
So he chased after becoming Hank himself
>>84215776
*Balder
>>84215776
Ant-Man had a better Ultron than Age of Ultron.
>>84215776
>Ant-Man Had a better Ultron than Age of Ultron
>>84217683
>>84217845
Ward stop posting with multiple bodies please
>>84216000
Plus, look at his suit's design. Picture that in chrome and red.
He was genuinely deranged, the actor did a good job of showing that.
Beyond that, he's just another bland villain who died in their first movie and was never mentioned again.
that doesn't make sense
he was the wrong flavor of insecure
>Heroes don't get any bigger
https://youtu.be/pWdKf3MneyI
>>84215803
I see your case for the value of a fresh take on Lex Luthor and raise you a piss jar
>>84215803
He wasn't as deep or complex as Lex can be and a bit too crazy but he was still probably one of the better MCU villains too.
Yeah this dude should've been Lex imo.
>>84216374
>He was also a businessman obsessed with his own legacy and a massive superiority complex
I think you are referring to Movie Pym.
>>84218071
There, ten thousand fucking years in photoshop.
My favorite part was when he was laughing over his tiny lamb in a box.
>>84216051
I don't expect Cross back, but I wouldn't mind someone else using a new suit and Cross formula that the Hydra guy snuck out.
>>84215776
i immediately dropped it when i heard Michael Cera was playing Lex but when i finally watched the ultimate edition the other night i wasn't that disappointed. he was no Lex but he put on a show at least. i feel like if they did cast a person who looked the part and sub-par acted "serious" and "menacing" (you already have Henry Cavil making the stupidest faces in awkward situations) that it would have further made the already grim-dark shitfest of a movie worse.
Yellowjacket actually felt threatening, is the thing. He had that totally deranged but just sane enough thing going on to hide it and be disturbing and threatening to the cast of the movie.
>>84218704
Eisenberg was actually cast as Jimmy Olsen.
>As Eisenberg thought out loud in rapid-fire bursts, Snyder watched the nervy, jangled young actor and started thinking of withdrawing the Jimmy Olsen offer. And after the 32-year-old actor left the meeting, Snyder turned to his wife: “I was like, ‘Wow, that guy is crazy… Debbie, what about Jesse as Lex?”
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/25/batman-v-superman-jimmy-olsen
>>84219317
>let's get an energetic young man who acts skittish and can't stop nervously talking to himself and have him play Lex Luthor
wew
>>84216405
I'm joking though someone's dissection does make it seem like an ambitious movie.
You have to view it as satire of the whole action girl shtick.
It's critiquing media sold as female empowerment but ultimately just objectifyied and exploits them under a thin veneer of escapist fantasy. Both literally and figuratively
>>84219317i don't know who Jimmy Olsen is
i'm sorry
>>84219483
>You have to view it as satire of the whole action girl shtick.
>It's critiquing media sold as female empowerment but ultimately just objectifyied and exploits them under a thin veneer of escapist fantasy. Both literally and figuratively
that's a whole lot of buzzwords in a very small amount of space, I'm impressed
>>84219525
In the comics he's Clark Kent's ginger friend photographer who works at the Daily Planet.In the movie he's the CIA guy who gets killed in the first few minutes in Africa.
>>84219317
>Zack: "Wow, this guys is perfect for Jimmy Olsen, nerdy, jangled and young fits him perfectly"
>Debbie: "Yeah for real, are you thinking what I'm thinking"
>Zack: "Yeah let's cast him as Lex Luthor, it would be perfect fit for my vision, just kill of Jimmy in our movie, he's too still for my masterpiece"
>Debbie: "Anything for you Zack, now let's go get ice-cream"
>Zack "YAAAAAAAAAAAY!"
>BvS
>Lex Luther has a head full of thick, golden hair
>Superman is going bald
What didn't go right?
>>84219525
SILVER AGE
Jimmy Olsen is Clark Kent's handsome hanger-on kid who gets all the pussy.
He's also Superman's Mad Adventure Friend in Space, where all sorts of zany shit happens to him.
POST CRISIS
He's some punk ass kid with varying degrees of smartmouth, but a heart of gold
Also? Zany shit
NEW52
Clark Kent's handsome hanger-on roommate who gets all the pussy, IN CLARK'S APARTMENT, AND ALSO SOMETIMES HIS SHOWER
Also, zany shit
REBIRTH
The future goes on forever, and Jimmy Olsen still gets mad pussy
MOVIE
Jimmy Olsen is shot in head, the dark man said
>>84219641
Zack is the male equivalent of that one cunt at every company that fucks up constantly, but keeps her job because she's sleeping with the manager.
Am i the only one that liked Lex portrayal in the movie?
He reminded me of Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor, from the Richard Donner's movie, with his voices fluctuations, menacing jokes and body ticks.
He was pretty much a portrayal of a Google-type of nu-business man constantly trying to look nice, friendly and just.
Smallville had the best luthor.
>>84219802
While I agree with what you said, he's still not a good Lex Luthor, he's just a quirky crazy guy who made a monster because...?
If they wanted to go that way I'd rather he had made a kryptonite battle suit to battle the heroesthen when he gets hit really bad his wig falls off
>>84219921
>I'd rather he had made a kryptonite battle suit to battle the heroes
A kryptonite battle suit namedKRYPTOFUCKTHE SUIT WITH THE KRYPTONITE DICK
>>84215776
>He's a villain and he's bald, so he's Lex
Is Kingpin also Lex Luthor to you, OP?
>>84219802
>He reminded me of Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor, from the Richard Donner's movie, with his voices fluctuations, menacing jokes and body ticks.
That's my problem with this Lex and almost every live-action version of the character. Even that version wasn't all that much like the actual Lex Luthor from the comic books.
Like, for one thing, Lex Luthor is bald and doesn't give a shit about it. He's not insecure about it.
>>84219959
not OP, but he's also a mad scientist obsessed with a superhuman's powers and secrets
>>84218520
Dayum
>>84219980
1978, anon.
You know, a time when Superboy was childhood friends with Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor.
Until the hair incident.
I find it funny that Superboy/man has two accidental "incidents" that define his life. One was the experiment that caused young Lex Luthor to lose his hair, giving him a mortal enemy for life.
The other one was the adventure where he inadvertently GAVE HIS PARENTS FUCKING SPACE AIDS and gave literally everything he could to save them but in the end they had to just die.
That's how we got the second version of Pa Kent's Great Responsibility speech, which is so important to Superman that there are three versions of it in the Silver Age alone.
>>84219663
It's pottery.
>>84219663
Snyder sucks at casting
>>84220043
>You know, a time when Superboy was childhood friends with Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor.
>Until the hair incident.
Alright, fine.
But even then, adult Lex went around bald without any wigs all the time. It's not like it was something that he was especially conscious about by then.
>>84220043
>>84220187
Based Pa Phloog
>>84219802
great performance but not lex
>>84219637
>Lois Lane, I'm C.I.A.
>>84218520
looks a bit too dark
what about making all yellow parts red and black parts gray?
>>84215776
>watching Ant Man
>>84215803
He did have the slightly paranoid yet confident-sounding and commanding voice of what Lex can be. He'd need a bit more monologuing and looking at windows.
The story was kind of eh because it started in medias res for him, so you never saw the development, you just saw him at his final stage, pretty much.
Also, why the fuck was Ant-Man that well crafted. The VFX were great, the action pieces were creative, the suits were GOAT, the score was great, the character interactions, particularly the family ones were so simple yet so great. Every little technical detail was marvellous, and even if the whole thing is cookie-cutter, it did have some neat personality to it all. What a neat movie it was.
>>84215776
"Ant-Man" had a better Ultron than "Age of Ultron".
>>84221587
My autism didn't allow me to ignore that, but it didn't go well.
>>84215776
fuck off back to /tv/ you shitstain
>>84222305
neat. I don't think you're going to get mch closer because of the dripping pool water.
>>84222305
MOTHERFUCKING ULTRON
I KNEW IT
THEY KNEW IT
HOLY SHIT
>>84219663
That explains why Lex is having fun while Clark is dour.
>>84218520
This face
>>84222305
This body
The perfect Ultron
>>84215803
Yep. And he was still a much better Lex Luthor than BvS's Lex Jokerberg.
I wish Clancy Brown wasn't so damned old now. He'd be the perfect live-action Luthor, just like he was the perfect animated Luthor.
>>84215776
>What went wrong?
>>84215776
>bald
>mad scientist
>business man
>had an armored suit
>respect but turn hatred for a guy who better than him
>no mercy for people who block his plan
he's basically what Lex Luther should have been
>>84215776
He was nothing like luthor other than being a bald business man
>>84222785
>He was nothing like luthor other than being a bald business man
Friend, you may want to read what you wrote just now.
>>84219637
So was he ACTUALLY jimmy olsen or was that a codename?
>>84215776
Corey Stoll is pretty hot desu senpai
>>84222857
He introduced himself as Jimmy Olsen to Lois.
I'd be very surprised if in the future we get another guy who just happens to also be called Jimmy Olsen.
Or a second CIA agent with the same name, like Lynch from the A-Team.
>>84222997
Jimmy Olsen Jr, the CIA Jimmy Olsen's young son
just like the fucking Lex Luthor Jr
that was more easy, amirite?
>>84222840
Characters are more than their design
>>84222785
>Bald mad scientist businessman super-villain is NOTHING like bald mad scientist businessman super-villain!
>>84223392
You're right. Good thing they have the same personality too.
>Skewed sense of moral, doesn't hesitate developing dangerous weapons for known super-villains
>Arrogant
>Dangerous
>Feels like the hero took something from them/is willfully blocking their way to true greatness
>>84222735
You're an antisemite!
Just like Donald Trump!
>>84223129
You can't just fix everything with family members with the same name. You especially can't fix Superman that way.
>>84219641
>you'll never be this mad
Just because he's a bald evil businessman. You people are literally children.
I watched this movie like 3 months ago and I already don't remember anything about this guy other than the final battle.
Marvel can't do shit with their movie villains.
>>84215818
I will be his defender. Snyder is an innocent man who likes comics. People bully him for it, just like old times.
>>84222305
Awesome
>>84215787
>not "fuck you clark"
BvS was a mistake.
Darren was nothing like Lex Luthor and even if he was, Darren was a terrible character.
>I'm just going to be all evil and foreboding for no actual reason
>>84215818
Yes obviously
Second to Nolan
>>84230479
"Muh legacy" was his reason.
>>84215854
I'm gonna wait for the BvS-DoJ:EC-UE to be released on physical medium. The digital is $20, the DVD/blu-ray combo and digital copy is $24.
>>84230540
Very poorly conveyed then
Crying crazy cuck is the perfect Lex Luthor
He's bald!
>>84230709
That's how dumb this board is, they wanted triple h as thor.
>>84222344
>dripping pool water
now you have me thinking how awesome this >>84222305 would look dripping blood...
>>84222905
would you a bath with Stoll?
>>84230654
>Very poorly conveyed then
He states it directly on several occasions.
He even has a scene where he shows p unexpectedly for a heart to heart with Pym and later reveals he was planning on killing Pym right there.
>>84230479
>no reason
you mean the mental instability cause by pym particles that made him obsess over proving he's better than his 'dad'?
>>84219483
That argument has the same problem a lot of poorly thought out meta pieces have: at the end of the day, it's still an example of the thing it's supposedly trying to skewer. Just going "put you see, I knew I was doing it, so that makes it okay" doesn't actually make it any better than any of the other examples that didn't do it "on purpose."
Things still have to be good stories on their own, in addition to whatever commentary they're trying to make, to be anything more than just more schlock.
>>84215818
People love him on /tv/
>>84231150
Well, yes, but they're kind of retarded.
>>84215776
The fact that you think that baldhead in Ant Man was a better Lex Luthor then Luthor in BvS
>>84215818
>/tv/
>Zack
>not Dan and Dabid
>>84231773
/tv/ hates the DCCU more than GoT, although both are wildly hated
