Good evening owls of /co/,
Christ, what an asshole
>>84197026
LET'S HOPE THIS ISN'T LIKE LAST NIGHT, NEW M00T
>Sunday is the day of PUNISHMENT
Smug bully husbando has a nice preview
>>84191824
Question.
Has anyone notice the guy posting NIGGERS with a pic of a black guy sucking his own dick ?
>>84197045
Poor Jake has to deal with the deathgrip now.
>>84197080
Catalog filters are a wonderful thing.
>>84197067
I didn't click to read yet, but everyone seems really positive about it, yes?
>>84197080
yeah, janitors are being slow, I guess. And second to the "filters are awesome"
>>84197119
Yeah Kenan seems to have a personality so that's a positive and it's obvious he'll go through some sort of character development
>>84197067
>Kenan will never bully you
;_;
>>84197080
yeah for a few days now
We had the original Jim Lee cover. Then the Jim Lee cover showing a little more of Dr Manhattan’s arm. Then the Gary Frank cover with Wally West, out yesterday.
And now, for the fourth printing of DC Universe: Rebirth another of the issue’s artists Ethan Van Sciver is providing new art for the cover.
It will be out on August 3rd, though I would expect to see a few copies around the place at San Diego Comic Con.
It will also be accompanied by third printings for Batman: Rebirth #1, Green Arrow: Rebirth #1 and Superman: Rebirth #1, all of which saw second printings published yesterday.
These will be out a little earlier, July 27th.
>>84197164
the Joker should just look like that all the time
>>84197067
I love him already
>>84197119
So part of Comics Twitter is having some kind of meltdown again about creators and critics
My general thought is "If people have you blocked and you've never interacted, they probably saw you being an aggro shithead and decided you weren't worth dealing with"
HOLY SHIT, we just got heavy stuff, here.
http://www.newsarama.com/29971-iron-mans-real-mother-marvel-couldnt-they-woudnt-would-they.html
>But there aren’t many Marvel characters of relevance who could be revealed as Tony’s folks that fit that description – and who were adults in the time Tony would have been born in the 1960’s or whatever decade it was in Marvel's always-sliding timeline. Sure, Marvel could reveal that Nick Fury or Wolverine is Tony’s father, but they’re both M.I.A. – and both Nick Fury and Wolverine already had secret sons revealed. Steve Rogers could be his dad, but he’s already had one major shake-up lately, and that would just be a little too weird.
>And Marvel has made it clear they're revealing his mother first - "Tony Stark comes face-to-face with his biological mother," the publisher promises.
>So who is female, biologically old enough to theoretically give birth to Tony and would have some resonance with Marvel readers?
>Starting to gather where we're going with this?
>Yes, we’re talking about Natasha Romanoff, the Black Widow.
Would marvel have the balls?
>>84197199
we've been promised more of Ollie's chest
Marvel have done incest before, soo yeah they would.
>>84197208
That'd be *amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing*
>>84197203
>So part of Comics Twitter is having some kind of meltdown again about creators and critics
I also noticed the past couple days certain parts of Comics Twitter are still really pissy at Marvel for their lack of LGBT rep
Wiccan & Hulkling aren't in USAvengers and there aren't any homos on that shitty Deodato spread
>>84197214Frontal and Backliked in grell daysJust kidding
>>84197208
Words cannot express how much I want this to happen.
>>84197119
I forget, they've outlawed copyrighting genetic codes, right?
>>84197234
Marvel's not doing anything with most of their gays right now, so I can see being miffed that you're getting nothing, you know? Especially with how Alonso talks about things compared to Didio, who Simone mentioned yet again the other day as being supportive.
>how many people have just dreamed of doing this to Marvel civilians
>>84197208
I want it to happen so badly because fucking lol, but if it is an important character people are already attached to instead of a new character or obscure one, Peggy would be my first choice.
>>84197277
ILU Pat Mills
>>84197208
That's fucking stupid and exactly the kind of shit I'd expect from Bendis. Bet you dollars to donuts it's going to be an OC though.
>>84197229
But that was Ultimate Marvel.
>>84197277
oh yeah, they have every right to be annoyed
But I do enjoy watching the conflict of wanting to praise Marvel for stuff they do while still being really pissed that they're ignoring lgbt stuff
I think Wheeler is tearing himself apart https://twitter.com/Wheeler/status/748979943925841920
>>84197234
Couldn't have come at a worse time, with DC announcing a Midnighter and Apollo mini despite his solo selling like ass
Simone on twitter was praising Didio and trying to tell people he really does care about lgbt rep instead of just trying to get money out of it
IIRC Didio was one of the higher ups who was okay with Simone wanting to make Hippolyta or Phillipus married years ago
>>84197199
wew
>>84197277
Me desu
>>84197300
well how are you owls tonight?
>>84197327
Something that irks me a bit about Wheeler is that he always seems to write the things on CA about and advocating for female fandom, but he shows no real signs of being in the trenches and would probably run away screaming from the weirder completely all-lady places I know about. Let someone else write those bits, dude.
>>84197234
>Wiccan & Hulkling aren't in USAvengers and there aren't any homos on that shitty Deodato spread
Peter Parker isn't on there either, so we can safely assume there's more than just them.
>>84197277
Red Dog is turning out fun. Like, I think I may like him more than most incarnations of the Punisher, if only because there isn't any "oh yeah, and he never does any collateral damage ever" bs.
I listened to that recent podcast with Ostrander talking about stuff
apparently we have Geoff Johns to thank for Amanda Waller showing up in adaptations frequently
and he said Hexer Dusk was based off a dream Jan Duursema had
>>84197356
So his stuff doesn't come across as exploitative, but it does come across as patronizing when he thinks he's got the finger on the pulse of what 12-25 young women like.
this dual personality stuff is great
>>84197337
>Simone on twitter was praising Didio
I will be sad went Dan retired.
So many low selling books he keep alive
Firestorm
Blue Bette
Manhunter
Prez
Hex
>>84197380
Thank you based Johns
>>84197356
>well how are you owls tonight?
I had a half day of work and I have monday and tuesday off, I'm so fucking happy
>Something that irks me a bit about Wheeler is that he always seems to write the things on CA about and advocating for female fandom, but he shows no real signs of being in the trenches and would probably run away screaming from the weirder completely all-lady places I know about. Let someone else write those bits, dude.
I saw a critique of his comic Another Castle that basically boiled it down to it doesn't challenge anything about the way female characters are written, tends to stick to stereotypes, and is kind of bland overall
I mean yeah sure he made a comic but he's not putting his money where his mouth is
>>84197356
>well how are you owls tonight?
Getting ReadyI leave the country tomorrow for vacation for one monthI will miss you guys
>>84197385
This page makes me think of Dr. Strangelove.
>>84197380
Waller's old enough that Ostrander almost certainly gets royalties every time she shows up, like Dixon with Bane.
>>84197392
R.E.B.E.L.S.
>>84197356
Fuck, Public Eye isn't just for hire policing, it's SHITTY for hire policing.
Goddamn.It's going to suck when that kind of law enforcement becomes reality
>>84197426
Yeah, he did say that he does get royalties whenever she's used
he also said when they brought him on for that SS one shot they said "we want a John Ostrander Suicide Squad issue"
>>84197426
We always get a piece of what Bane makes. We’ll see money from this movie. They have graphs and charts to figure out how much based on how many lines of dialogue he has and how much he’s in the movie and how much impact he has on the story… I still talk to Licensing at DC. They still e-mail me and talk to me on the phone. We’re copacetic there. I can’t say a bad word about DC there. They’re very diligent about following up on that front.
USAVENGERS!!!
>>84197380
>he said Hexer Dusk was based off a dream Jan Duursema had
That fits with some of the visuals.
I hope it gets a wide release when it comes out.
I ended up passing on the KS because I want my bought comics in Dead Tree, and shipping to Canada was like 25 bucks.
>>84197426
this reeks of $cientology
>>84197414
If you remember where, can you link? I glanced at the first issue and thought "This is doing nothing that a ton of YA hasn't done already, and better"
>>84197421
have fun!
>>84197444
hnnnnnnnnnng, yes we do.
>>84197434
Fuck yeah.
>>84197203
i wish i knew how to follow the various ______ twitters.
i don't have much hope in strong arguments tho. Criticism is weird, write about what you love and share it with people.
>>84197468
>have fun!
Thank you
>>84197468
Did Scientology even exist when this was coming out?
>>84197457
Any word as to why the mods deleted that first thread?
>>84197356
that plus stuff like that Rebirth roundtable comes off as some kind of bizarre reverse gatekeeping where they insist that new readers or female readers or gay readers can't or shouldn't like certain things
>>84197444
> "we want a John Ostrander Suicide Squad issue"
DCKOMICS 4EVER
>>84197506
Scientology's been around since the Fifties.
"When I work for DC, anything I create I get a piece of," said Wein. "Lucius Fox, for example, who was in the last trilogy of Batman movies played by Morgan Freeman, bought my new house. At Marvel, I did see a check off 'The Wolverine,' the current film. But as a rule I don't any of the ancillary money off of all of the toys and soaps and shampoos and skateboards and God knows what else that features the character."
Though Wolverine has appeared in six films, Wein was only paid for the latest one because of esoteric rules requiring the film to be named after the character, he said. The rules are strict enough that he wasn't paid for "X Men Origins: Wolverine."
"They sent me a not-unreasonable check for the latest one," he said.
When pressed on the amount, he only that it wouldn't be enough to pay for another house.
>>84197468
>If you remember where, can you link? I glanced at the first issue and thought "This is doing nothing that a ton of YA hasn't done already, and better"
I think it is this
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/03/04/two-opposing-reviews-of-another-castle-1-but-only-one-of-them-raps/
>It’s never clear if she’s meant to be a skilled warrior, or a petulant child. Neither the art nor writing provides any insight into the extent of her abilities. At best, it becomes clear that anytime someone says she can’t accomplish something, she does. But in between these moments, she shows poor judgement and a complete unwillingness to listen to any advice from wiser counsel. In short, she’s a white male comic book writer.
>Similarly, the dialogue is only remarkable for its lack of coherence. Every other character feels like a cheap stereotype, existing solely to provide a foil for Princess Misty’s intended feminist outlook. Most of the conversations read like these characters have never met her before, treating her outlook and attitude like a silly dalliance to be overcome.
>Another Castle feels like it was written for reviewers. Princess Misty is meant to be a feminist take on the captured princess trope, but the comic never lives up to its goals. Being headstrong and insistent isn’t the same thing as being feminist, and throughout the comic, she mistreats almost everyone around her.
>>84197506
$cientology dates from the 60s and before, anon
>>84197510
There was a bit of a fluff some people had because the A. V. Club discussion of 'Smile' had one person who said "This is really not for me and I'm meh on some parts of it but I'm glad it exists and I can see where it's appealing", and come on, that's a very useful perspective at times.
>>84197356
Mills just keeps on making Public Eye more and more fucking useless.
It's getting to the point where I'm wondering how they have any clients at all. And why Jake would ever throw in with these fuckheads.
>>84197506
Yeah Scientology is oldish. Like started in the 50s. Was just super secretive until the internet let people spread the info on it's horrible evil
>>84197510
apparently people talking about how cap 2 couldn't have been made in a week were being called gatekeepers.....
>>84197437
>tfw when we're heading for a dystopian cyberpunk future but without the crazy technology
Someone's got to be insane enough to try to put a usb port in the back of their head, right?
>>84197524
oh yeah, Ostrander also said Khouri was a great editor
based DKhomics
>>84197545
>In short, she’s a white male comic book writer.
Oh fucking wow, that had to SMART.
>>84197468
>this reeks of $cientology
Or the Raliens or Heaven's Gate or any other Space Alien cult of which I'm sure there are more.
Or hell, 80s Televangelism, but for a 'secular' 'atheist' people.
>>84197545
>In short, she’s a white male comic book writer.
ice cold
>>84197437
>Fuck, Public Eye isn't just for hire policing, it's SHITTY for hire policing.
Who even BUYS this shit. A guy opens fire into a crowd, kills dozens of clients and they do fuck all.
Christ, they might as well saved themselves a few thousand creds and got what they paid for.
>>84197624
Not all that different from insurance plans.
https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/749014265982382080
King's cute as fuck when he covers his lack of hair desu
>>84197642
he and Geoff can be hat twins!
>>84197546
Oh good, he's rebuilding the pun file.
>>84197666
Surely Johns has a spare Hawkman hat for King to wear?
>>84197576
The A. V. Club review of the first issue of Another Castle had some extra burn from the reviewer in the comments, IIRC
>>84197640
>yfw Public Eye turns out to be an Insurance company that started a security package "elite service"
>>84197711
how are those ridiculous comics actually as fun as they are?
>>84197707
i just remember him on chris sims' podcast talking about it and it sounded real boring and like a weak version of Peach's story in Paper Mario.
>>84197711
>The History of KFC in the DC Universe is MUST reading
Okay, good job. That's worth a buy.
>>84197711
Those books have no right to be as amazing as they are.
>"At my KFC, the K stands for Krypton"
>>84197711
>IMPULSE ON THE FIRST PAGE
Okay, buy three copies, use two as the bread in a bacon sandwich.
>>84197756
I don't know, but I sure am glad they are
>>84197756
>how are those ridiculous comics actually as fun as they are?
Hilarious shilling has always been a part of comics, from Hostess Ads to all the way back to War Bonds.
>>84197711
>Colonel Lad
WELP
no shame in my legion game
>>84197809
The people involved are serious DC nerds, clearly
>>84197835
Hah! It's Tony Bedard!
>>84197756
Half of them are Bedard just fucking around. I love it.
>>84197835
>The people involved are serious DC nerds, clearly
History of the DC Universe UPC replacement cover blurb jokes!
...
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS A PRODUCT OF TONY BEDARD!?!
>>84197510
This is part of my problem with this weirdly political brand of comics "journalism," it portrays itself as speaking up for the marginalized but it clearly has no idea what those groups want - because you can't generalize about groups, and there's no actual polling data - so they project their own tastes onto whole groups, and claim to be speaking for those groups.
This is how you get bizarre generalizations like saying that cheesecake-style art turns off female readers, when there's plenty of reason to believe it actually appeals to girls (it depends on the art and the comic, of course, but girls love Betty and Veronica, older women buy Cosmopolitan, etc).
I think people feel that their own tastes are somehow more noble if they convince themselves they're speaking for a whole group (and it doesn't only happen on the left, for sure).
Ok that KFC comic confirmed Kingdom Come Flash is Wally and now I love it forever
>>84197867
I love the trope of "inscrutable superior beings are also total assholes who will hang you out to dry"
>>84197887
amazing
>>84197887
>Ok that KFC comic confirmed Kingdom Come Flash is Wally
That was confirmed ages ago when The Kingdom featured Iris West as Kid Flash.
>>84197898
Marie Javins, who edits the KFC comics, is also responsible for Section Eight and Dogwelder.
Clearly she is a god unto us.
>>84197640
Yeah but even then there are fucking limits.
How is Public Eye going to hold onto ANY customers if they're response to damn near everything is "Do fuck all."
Even if they have absolutely no official competition, treatment like this has got to have an effect on people, somebody's got to get the idea that it's just saner to arm themselves and either make deals to watch their neighbors back if they'll watch theirs.
>>84197948
>>84197948
I think she was also the first American editor to give Warren Ellis a job.
>>84197966
So Ewing keeps an Avengers book, at least. T-that's good, right?
>>84198007
THE PUNISHMENT ROOM
an annex to Jake's very own sex dungeon
>>84198007
We don't know that NA is ending, though. US Avengers might just be a replacement for CoC.
>>84198007
Hopefully he gets to do what he wants
>>84197026
I'm really enjoying how much a dandy dick Fearmaster is.
>>84197707
Was it the comment about the main character being like some OC you make in middle school?
>>84198064
Yeah
>UGH. That's just even more frustrating. I mean, I read these books three or four times before I review them and a) I didn't pick up on that but b) if I did it would have annoyed the CRAP out of me. It feels more like somebody's middle school OC from the back of their composition notebook than a fleshed out character, surrounded by Stussy S symbols and hearts with a crush's name in them.
And that's coming from a reviewer who loves Squirrel Girl and is inclined to like something like AC.
>>84198086
link?
>>84197203
>So part of Comics Twitter is having some kind of meltdown again about creators and critics
oh what's happened with this
>>84198007
>So Ewing keeps an Avengers book, at least. T-that's good, right?
Red Hulk finally has a mustache, which means it's the best Red Hulk ever.
Also, who's to say he doesn't end up with a Secret Avengers book, too, starring Songbird and a Hawkeye that keeps temporarily breaking out of prison to save the day?
>>84198086
They are really good at making The Public Enemy look like Marv.
>>84198098
http://www.avclub.com/article/miracleman-golden-age-reprints-gaiman-and-buckingh-233349
>>84198102
It's continued HydraCap fallout, spurred by how the pros uniformly mocked the shit out of that Paste article that asserted Marvel had changed course on the issue out of the backlash. So people are using pros vs. critics for their own ends, again.
>>84198103
t-take my money
>>84198133
I'm losing it at "a Colonel-Flash friendship in almost every reality"
>>84197026
We need a current era Fearmaster.
>>84198103
>>84198133
i'm not saying we should read parker rulk BUUUUUUUUUUUT
case for most slept on marvel book in years
>>84198193
I'll keep it under consideration; it turned into Red She-Hulk, right?
I think that's the book where he was proud of the YOLO joke he got in
>>84198220
If we want to hold off a bit on the "Nate's conga line of misery life" tour, I was thinking about some JMD or Gru Cap.
>>84198193
I miss Parker. He did a good job on just about everything he did at Marvel, often with unpromising premises and without big-name artists.
Sometimes from the outside it's hard to tell why some writers climb up the ladder and get the big books, and others just stop getting assignments.
>>84198220
Yeah, and the first arc is everyone he beat up in Loeb's run getting revenge.
>>84198231
>Gru Cap
yfw we summon spencer
>>84198173
the part that got me wasKoln-Elin the Kingdom Come universe
https://twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/748968689081389056
The Robin on Bermejo' variant freaks me out.
>>84198220
I'm down for JMD. It comes with Mike Zeck art
>>84198220
Those sheep people are too cute to kill.
>>84198103
So Clint would be a modern 711? http://pdsh.wikia.com/wiki/711
>>84198250
that's inspired lunacy as well
>>84198247
pfft, I doubt Spencer comes here
>>84198272
JMD also has some good Zemo story in it
>>84198239
How Jeff Parker is not a consistent best-seller, I don't know.
Not enough edge, maybe?
>>84198256
Somehow the boyscout short shorts are even worse than the fishscale speedo...
>>84198328
There's some pic I saw of some elseworld, and instead of the scaly panties they were just like ripped green shorts, and it just looked so much more sexual
It's weird
>>84198308
HERE WE FUCKING GO
>>84198312
I think he's never been put on a big enough title to attract enough eyes, but he has a steady cult following and he's never less than solid. Pretty unfair.
>>84198308
You know, you could steal his watch and call an ambula-Oh who am I shitting?
>>84198355
Fuck yeah
>>84198328
Also the legs are insanely muscular and he's wearing knee pads and combat boots.
Those thighs give me flashbacks to that one Alex Ross pic where Robin's thighs were basically deformed.
>>84198355
YESSSSSSSSS
>>84198379
The Iconic Punisher 2099 Pages are even better in context.
BTW I think we'll read to the end of Mills and then switch out. Also, I might have some major schedule disruptions coming up, or might not, will keep y'all posted.
>>84198355
ON THE EDGE
>>84198308
I like this robot dude already.
>>84198355
is Parker on anything other than Future Quest right now?
>>84198428
I don't think so, not even creator-owned
I'd read Jeff Parker's JSA book
>>84198464
>>84198477
>>84198464
>I'd read Jeff Parker's JSA book
That would probably be killer.
>>84198504
>>84198510
We know he can handle teams, and he seems well-read and has the affectionate nature I want on the book.
>>84198525
>>84198538
>>84198554
>>84198560
ha ha oh fuck
>>84198600
I..what?
>>84198525
>has the affectionate nature I want on the book.
He has a Roy Thomas lean to him, when you think about stuff he's brought back like Zelda the coffeehouse waitress in X-Men First Class.
>>84198600
Frank is rolling over in his grave...:D
>>84198554
God, it's like two 8 year olds role playing.
>>84198657
Isn't it great?
>>84198633
And Bernard the Poet!
First Class is probably my favorite thing with the original X-Men.
>>84198633
That's a nice comparison. Knows the stuff, can pull it up, but also pushes it forward without abandoning the roots.
>>84198657
It's almost like that scene from Naked Gun 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr2GeWiDrdY
>>84198693
>>84198731
BTW, Katehunter is finally going up on Comixology soonish
>>84198744
YES
>>84198744
Nice!
>>84198749
second week of August, along with 80s Blue Beetle
>>84198771
And All star Squadron is almost done.
>>84198771
this is great shit, thematically
>>84198731
>Pass the word! It's the Public Enemy!
It sounds like he's hyping up an impromptu street concert.
>>84198792
This nigga is ENCOURAGING people to whoop his ass.
What a story. Pat Mills man, it's a hell of a drug.
>>84198792
It really is.
The issue of the most reposted page in the series, and you see a villain 'win' ideologically.
>>84198792
shall we read one more?
>Chip Zdarsky ;) @zdarsky 10h10 hours ago
>On this, Canada Day, I'm proud to announce Chip's All-New All Different Avengers (C.A.N.A.D.A.)
if only
>>84198870
I'm really enjoying this arc, so I say go for it.
>>84198870
Not gonna lie, I read this cover as a particular form of /d/
>>84198916
>>84198792
>the Public Enemy taught people to stand and fight together
>by violently terrorizing them until they weren't such pussies
It's...kind of beautiful.
>>84198916
same
>>84198950
it's fucking great is what it is
>>84198916
It's a literal golden shower, it has to be on purpose.
so is July 5 Marvel doing another catalog of announcements or what? or will it just be a wet fart
>>84198916
looking kinda dr fate there
>>84198978
Apologies in advance, there's a missing page in the file
>>84198985
Or a game of "what can we get past Editorial"
>>84199009
>>84199024
> a hand cannon
real cute Mills
>>84199024
>>84199081
>>84199092
>>84199120
>mfw Jake is racist against robots
beep boop
>>84199129
>>84199129
robots deserve all the prejudice they get
>>84199129
>All the rights of a citizen
And those are..what again?
https://twitter.com/JamesTheFourth/status/749011230698856449
it looks like dc gave everybody one of those hats
>>84199160
>>84199205
>>84199172
Whatever you can pay for.
>>84199230
sorry, defective page in the file
>>84199263
>>84199230
> machetes. Like I said they're hackers
I'm dying
>>84199230
>hacker that literally hack with machetes
Mills is the hero 2099 deserves.
>>84199272
>>84199285
many a more recent dystopia could learn from the tone and style here
>>84199300
>>84199332
>>84199360
>>84199379
>>84199404
>>84199432
>>84199474
thanks for reading
jake's in trouble!
>>84198554
>lefield_having_an_identity_crisis.jpg
>>84199523
Thank you
>>84199160
Detective Robot Kei?
i've been lurking the last two storytimes without commenting much, but let me just say Punisher 2099 is amazing, and thank you OP for posting it.
>>84200110
I am glad you are enjoying it, anon.
>>84197026
well it was pretty good to be honest
bump 2099
