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For years /co/... For years I followed Cyclops and his jack up life... He's what made X-men interesting. Now, I come every Wednesday wait for the story times, wait for the thread, "he's back! Cyclops is back!" Yet week after week I'm left empty and disappointed.
Sure, the X titles are still running and are alright, but I long for the day when Cyclops is back from the dead, walks up to blackbolt and says X Gon' Give It To Ya!

There's really no point of this thread... Maybe a feels thread? Idk
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>>84159695
there is death of X, we might finally find out what happend to him, if not I suggest you to drop x-men,marvel if necessary, you dont need to pass for that kind of pain.
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That nigga fucked up its his fault really if he wasn't so Magneto about shit. He can rest in pissed for all I care I hate muties anyway.
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>>84159695
Let it go, you really won't be happy when Summers returns. Cyke isn't that goody-good-boy nerd-man you loved watching pull the X-Men's butts out of the fire (Phoenixfire?) time and time again.
He's been on what's called "a character arc", and they never go back to start after one of those.
(well, sometimes they do but it's certain death for them)
Old Scott Summers is dead, just like the lady said. Start your grieving process as soon as you can, it's easier that way.
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>>84159695
>Cyclops is back from the dead, walks up to blackbolt and says X Gon' Give It To Ya!
You want him to come back and immediately get murdered again?
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>>84159960
This. You must really hate Cyke if you think he can fuck with Black Bolt in any fashion.
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>>84159739
That's looking to be a variant cover event. Hopefully more than that, but they aren't always.
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>>84160018
Maybe, maybe not, both Cyclops and Black Bolt resist using their powers, both have been portrayed destroying mountains, both have never actually shown their full destructive potential.
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>>84160018
I bet if he shows up with a few sentinels instead of those backstabbing whining bitches that call themselves x-men these days he can probably tell anyone he likes whatever he likes.
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>>84159763
Sentinel detected
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>>84159695
Is it safe to say that the movies is what cause his eventual character assassination. OR have writters always made him a push over.

I feel like Cyclops should the Captain america for the x-men, a moral and courageous leader. Yet they turn him into a person who is intended to be unforgivable.
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>>84159695
Who cares about Cyclops, for years I've been waiting for Beast to not be written as the antagonist and as a traitor to his own. At least you Cyclops fans still have Youngclops, young Beast is an equally huge fag as his present self.
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X-Men have had periods where their books were worse, but I think this is the most empty they've ever been.
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>>84160201
>At least you Cyclops fans still have Youngclops, young Beast is an equally huge fag as his present self.

Cyclops fan here: fuck youngclops. I want to read about the guy with the history. I'm not jonesing for stories about a guy with eyes connected to the punch dimension.
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>>84160201
Alternate realities, senpai. Guess which Blink is more popular, AoA Exiles one or 616 version that died weeks after her first appearance?
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>>84160018

If Human Torch can walk into his house and fuck his wife, then I'm sure Cyclops can get away with telling him to go fuck himself.
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>>84160437
Torch has Medusa's protection. That being said it would have been cool if Cyke was the one that hooked up with her.
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>>84160201
I contributed on the last Hank-love thread, it lasted less than 50 posts, didn't even get trolled. Hank might be worth reading but he is in no way as polarizing as Cyke is.

(and if past resurrections are prologue, Cyke's going to become more controversial during his return)
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>>84160119
Blackbolt had some assistance with it, but he managed to scream very, very large a hole in the universe.
I don't think Scott has the potential for anything near that
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>>84160465
That would literally be big TWEEST.
>>84160471
Well, look at it. Beast's problem is being written badly and in role that doesn't suit him. Nothing that can't be fixed if he was removed from X-Men and put on Avengers with Wonder Man.
Cyclops' "problem" is that HE STEALS ALL PAGE TIME AND EDITORIAL LOVES HIM AND HE HAS NO FANS AND THEY KEEP PUSHING HIM AND ALL PLOTS ARE REVOLVING AROUND HIM.
Which is ironic, even in his death, people are talking about him.
Except non-muties, they give zero fucks about X-guys.
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>>84160198
>Yet they turn him into a person who is intended to be unforgivable.
Yet they failed at even that
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>>84160488
We aren't talking about the two of them having a power-off. Black Bolt easily outclasses Scott. I still think that if Scott wanted him dead he'd be dead.
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>>84160526
warren-ellis-cyclops-is-mutant-batman.jpg
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>>84160316
But history is the hook with Babyclops, he's got none of his own,yeah, but his burden is Rightclops' history.
AND Babyclops is going to have his own history sooner or later: same guy, different circumstances.
You aren't the least bit curious about how our Cyke could have done things differently if given a start-over?

Oh, and Adultclops only came into his "badass" own post-Morrison, before then he was basically Babyclops with regrets.
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>>84160506
(remember: we still haven't learned THE MOTIVE yet, Cyke may very well be forgivable in the end)
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>>84160621
He only wanted to get book to the library on time.
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>>84160502
>HAS NO FANS
I know plenty of people who like Cyke.
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>>84160564
FYI: Before JEEAAAN died he was mutant batman all the time.
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>>84160242
Well, besides the early 70s of course.
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>>84160638
SHHH! Lad! Do ye' wanna be trolled?
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Is Cyke the ultimate pleb-filter character?
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>>84160621
Cyke is always forgivable, ALWAYS.
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>>84160638
Of course. To most people, he's staple of team, like Thor to Avengers. You don't have Thor, your Avengers are lame. Sorry, Pym ;-;
>>84160661
That's what you and I know, but who's gonna read those old comics, they're so old XD
>>84160732
Yeah. I wonder who else could be added to pleb-filter list.
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Knowing how these threads go, this is going to turn in an X-general. Knowing how X-general's go you're going to be asked for the team that pops up in your head when you think of the X-men. This is you being asked. What characters have that special spot in your heart as being the quintessential X-men characters?
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>>84160799
Honestly? Blue team.
Can't believe how Gold team was fighting irrelevant OC-tier villains.
OMG, editorial was pushing Cyclops even then!!!!!
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The Dream is Dead.
It's funny that X-Men have unintentionally the biggest development of all marvel properties
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Smells Like Teen Cyclops
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>>84160867
Should've clarified, meant teams as in team members, not just actual teams that appeared. Nice choice though.

As they come to mind and limited to 13 since that's the amount in your image:

Cylops
Rogue
Kitty
Storm
Wolverine
Beast
Magneto
Jean Grey (the one that doesn't make people gay)
Emma Frost
Nightcrawler
Colossus
Lockheed (if he counts)
Surge

Don't know what team I was expecting but it wasn't that one.
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>>84160887
Why the golly-heck does everyone on this gosh-darned board always think that Marvel isn't scripting this stuff out?
For Josh's sake, *I* could tell you how fans are going to react, people are very predictable when it comes to this medium.
This makes me so Darn-diddly-dag-nabit mad!
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>>84160967
Well, obviously.
Thing is, I don't pay for comics. I'd rather buy some booze
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>>84160799
Cyclops
Emma
Wolverine
Storm
Nightcrawler
Kitty
Beast
Rogue
illyana
Colossus
Magneto
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>>84160799
I like to headcanon possibilities a lot, so I always see the modern team incarnations, plus or minus potential prospects.
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>>84160774
Superman is another good pleb filter. Most "Boy Scout" characters are
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>>84159695
>Maybe a feels thread?
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Suicide is Painless
It brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please
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>>84160799
>Cyclops
>Jean
>Wolverine
>Bobby
>Beast
>Angel
>Colossus
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>>84160867
The better team has more females.
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>"editorial" was pushing Cyclops on the fans.

WTF? The two main characters from issue #1 on were ProfessorX and his X-Man teamleader Cyclops.
How is this not understood?
Wolverine's been "pushed" on the fans, he started out unliked by the readership and Claremont wrote him better parts until the letters column was all glowing reviews.
Storm was "pushed" on the fans, do you honestly think that replacing the team's leader with the new gal was a popular play at the time?
Kitty Pryde was ... (okay, now I realise why she's so hated)
Lots of other characters are "pushed" all the time, but it was Xavier and Scott's book from the start.
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>>84161140
The X-Men are bigger than you.
Everyone has their own favorites.
I, for example, like Maggott
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>>84160799
>Knowing how X-general's go you're going to be asked for the team that pops up in your head when you think of the X-men.
>This is you being asked.
Pic related
Would be my dream team
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>>84161178
>tfw no Summers family motorhome trip through America
Granted, we'd need motorhome size of building, but it's comics.
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>>84161215
Time-displaced BoyBeast already did it, and did it better.
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>>84161283
My book won't be irrelevant.
And it'll have JETPACKS!
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>>84161283
Are you kidding?

>Cable gets in the bus...
>Hi... Mom... Mom... And mom.
>Maddie pop him out of her vag.
>Jean raised him in the future.
>Emma is current step mom (don't give a shit what Bendis says).
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>>84161178
>dat quire
An anon with taste
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>>84161401
>three of them are civilly drinking coffee
>in mindscape you can hear SLUT WHORE FAKE TITS CLONE OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE FROST
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>>84159695
I think the value of CYke is that he ended all the ideological squabbling the X men had gone through for 40 years and united them into one of their bests runs
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>>84161312
>>84161401
First of all, Goblin Queens make for awkward family vacations.
Then of course, everyone forgets Nate Grey... AGAIN. WhaWa-wuuuaaauugh.
But the main take-away should be that jetpacks don't beat DoctorWho transportation.
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>>84161401
Add young Cyclops into the mix to get an special taste of telepathic sex I mean hell
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>>84161562
How so? There's still ideological "schisms" over what the goals of The X-Men are.
Are they superheroes?
Are they mutant freedom fighters?
Are they killers?
Are they schoolmasters?
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>>84160201
The biggest problem is that you need Beast to suffer. And I don't care what Bendis said, Beast has not suffered jackshit. He either needs to die or have no one want anything to do with him. Then from there his character could be built back up.

If Beast dies, I'd love it to be a manner similar to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wJmisOl7tk

Basically, Cyclops is Luther, Warren is Alice, Bobby is Mark. Beast is Ian and Jean is Zoe. Seriously, just change some names, make Beast insult Bobby's sexuality and have Warren be a bit grimmer and in Archangel form and it would work as a satisfying death scene.
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>>84161470
Wait-a-minute... Frost broke it off with Summers.
She's out.
Probably disowned by the family unit as a whole.
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>>84161677
Bendis' run didn't happen. It was all pipe dream, yes. Nothing is real.
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>>84161704
Eva ... what did you do?
Eva Bell, WHAT did you DO?
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>>84161677
>thinking anything Bendis writes is cannon.
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>>84161625
Yeah all of that crap after Cyclops left, then everyone disbanded. If Cyke were alive everyone would be under his lead like em or not because it's survival 101 and Cyke would call storm on all of her shit like having murderers in the team.
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>>84161753
Speaking of Eva Bell, what waste of potential.
I still find it hilarious that Roguefags acted like white streak in hair is only for Rogue.
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>>84161677
The Kekoos are gone too. There is only Jean
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>>84161781
Nuh-uh! Storm's X-Men are warriors, not murderers!
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>>84160437
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>People at talking about post AvX X-men like it was good or valid
How do you get mad NOW? X-men has been shit for more then half a decade.
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>>84161401
>>84161572
The Summer family is full of weird relationships
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>>84161831
JESUS, it's 5 years since aVx
time flies, when...
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>>84161831
Come on, Legacy was readable.
Now, it being completely irrelevant to grander scheme of things is different thing.
>>84161846
When you hate?
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>>84161070
Everyone loves Superman
real pleb filter is Superboy
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>>84161841
>incest
I like it. I mean, as a fantasy
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>>84161851
>When you hate?
nah, the correct answer is "when you're a faggot"
it's an inside joke for people who are here for way too long.
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>>84160732

Are Johns and Morrison bffs? They always seem to be pretty chummy, more so than other writers.
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>>84159960
I want him to come back an avatar of the punch dimension, not just a portal
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>>84161865
Ah, I see. I'm not yet too long here. I stick to /co/ because discussion is faster.
>>84161878
As... One Punch Man?
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>>84161781
Don't know about that ...
I bet you one golden fiddle's worth that when Old Cyke returns, half the X-Men are morally disgusted with Cyke's very existence.

And Storm's not that bad a leader, the Limbo move seems like a classic hardtimes Scott Summers call.
Believe in the mowhawk.
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>>84161868
Morrison is still sad about his BFF leaving him
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>>84161891
EXM only needs Beast and you have team who hates him. Everyone else doesn't give flying fuck what's he doing.
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>>84160799
Cyke, Wolverine, Storm, Jean, Xavier

It's not that I think that's the best roster, but they are who leap to mind when I think x-men
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>>84160967
I didn't know Flanders read comics
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>>84161925
Dead, Dead, Weathered, as Dead as she gets, Dead.
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>>84161925
Sort of a "Too many Chiefs" situation though, isn't it?
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>>84161887
No
Infinite Punch Man
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>>84161967
Punch-off, Flash. Me and you!
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>>84161925
>>84161953
Speaking of dead peeps and a "weathered" Storm:

Is Ghost Xavier a sign that Ororo's cracking up under the pressure or has The Professor cheated death with his ungodly brain powers? ? ?
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>>84161961
Not if it's a parliment

But that would require a neo mutanistan that both doesn't get nuked and has a population in the thousands
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>>84161986
Someone invite CC2's Asura
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>>84161967
I love it. Why we will never get it?
Maybe DC can hear our cries? Or Image?
If you're an indie writer and reading this, please steal this idea.
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>>84161961
Not entirely, Logan and Jean are both good soldiers when they know who to take orders from. It's just the last three who have a history of countermanding authority.
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>>84161996
Little of both. I wouldn't be surprised if he programmed an 'inner xavier' into all his top students
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>>84162008
>Punch Masters: One Hit at a Time
Bonus if bad guys explode.
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Fuck Cyclops, and the og x men as well.

By now we should have cycled through at least two new generations of mutant leaders instead of them all being sidelined for this faggot and his faggot friends.
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I demand some leaks! Leaks, even fake.
Maybe we should come up with the most absurd scenario / conspiracy theory for marvel killing the x-men, like going back in time, and stopping the presses from printing X-Men #1 from 1963
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>>84160799
Giant Size desu.

Colossus, Storm, Nightcrawler, Wolverine, and Cyclops are the core. Instead of Banshee, Sunfire, and Thunderbird though, i think of Rogue, Iceman and Shadowcat mostly thanks to the movies and cartoons (90s, evolution)
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>>84162033
And one of those little Chuck consciences wasn't that clear about the rules on patricide.
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>>84162061
>legion goes back in time to kill stan lee
>shoots jack kirby instead
>age of lee event begins

get hype
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>>84162074
People laugh at Giant-Size Man-Thing
but imagine a Giant-Size Ex-Men
They would be a big ex-guys...
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>>84162050
Claremont pls.
>>84162079
And Magneto saw Chuck saying RACE WAR NOW, GAS THE FLATSCANS.
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>>84162084
we should name it LoL
Lies of Lee
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>>84160119
The only way Cyclops can last 4 seconds against Black Bolt is if Black Bolt allows it

Mind you, this is not an issue with Cyclops only, Black Bolt in general is just overpowered as fuck
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>>84162079
>you are a skinny guy
>4u

>>84162107
we know his weakness: cuckolding
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>>84162061
Dude, that's already been done.
All five original X-Men simply vanished into thin air one day. That's how it ended.
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>>84161891
Scotty doesn't care what Beast and other ungrateful muties having been saying
He'll still save them anyways
he's just that good of a guy
he wouldn't let this terrigen mist bs happen
motherfucking mutants are the worst
no wonder everyones always trying to kill them
but Cyclops just puts the team on his back
middle fingers in the air
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>>84162133
Is Cyclops /co/?
As in, is he love?
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>>84162132
I wonder how it goes. We've seen that if you remove Pym, lots of weird shit happens and future is fucked. Now imagine if you remove O5.
Although I doubt removing Iceman and Angel would be Earth-shattering.
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>>84162061
Black Bolt found out that the ability to seduce red heads works like the powers in highlander. He killed scott to take his portion of the red force so he can get Medusa back from johnny.
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>>84162140
/co/ isnt love

not anymore.
and neither is cyclops. we did this. we ruined our husbando.
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>>84160799
Cyclops
Storm
Wolverine
Beast
Nightcrawler
Colossus
Jean Grey
Gambit
Rogue
Professor X

90s too strong
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>>84162159
we get what we deserve
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>>84162155
with wolverine dead, he just needs peters redhead force.

i'm not sure it will be enough though. Johnny is powerful enough to seduce Medusa, Crystal and the fake Alicia Masters. thats 3 redheads.
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>>84162107
Yessir, he surely is indeed.
However, so is Cyclops. His original go-to move was to vaporize heavy machinery with a glance.
I'm not saying the good King Boltagon wouldn't win, he has more ability than just the voice after all, I'm just saying neither has an upward limit to their main energy projection powers.
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>>84162194
>black cuck
>good
mugga...
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I also love cyclops. I think having him basically turn away from Xavier is the most interesting thing you could do with the Logan/Scott dynamic. Cyke is a guy raised from the age of 14 as the head of a paramilitary organization with the concept of "survive or else" drilled into his head after seeing multiple extinction level events towards his kind.

He's Marvels Batman post-identity crisis. A super paranoid guy who can kick everyone's asses and had a more plans than letters in the alphabet for anything.
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>>84162194
Well their upper limit depends on the author, but Black Bolt is generally able to shatter everything and everyone if he ever screams.

But well not like BB and Cyclops are duking it out anytime soon. Cyclops is dead and Black Bolt is in his club drinking his feels away from being cuckolded by a fuccboi with fire powers
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>>84162159
Shut up Hank, go wear your garters and stargaze!
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>>84162194
>His original go-to move was to vaporize heavy machinery with a glance.


Blackagar can do that with a whisper. I love Cyclops, but he cant exactly come close to matching up with Black Bolt.

Theres nothing wrong with that, i would expect Beast to fist fight Hulk either.
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>>84162216
No one ever asked BB about an opinion, so frankly, nothing stops us from saying that Cyke > BB
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>>84162220
*wouldn't
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>>84162220
Blackagar Shmuckagar
I bet that BB can't do a kick flip, or use his voice powers as a ricochet.
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>>84162223
if cyke is so cool then why wasn't able to join the elite illuminati club?

checkmate cykefags.
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>>84162233
>or use his voice powers as a ricochet.
He doesn't have to, he can fly.
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>>84162239
because Illuminati are a bunch of faggots.
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>>84162249
yeah, with the power of his tong on his head.
jesus.

I always wondered if BB is a metaphor for autistic children
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>>84162202
You forgot your pic.
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>>84162233
call me when cyclops has a win versus the hulk
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>>84162250
then scott should have been able to fit right in.
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>>84162261
does red hulk count?
from avx tie-in
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>>84162258
Gambit being all "why am I not robbing Louvre?"
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Let's stop with the Black Bolt bashing, folks.
We don't need to invite fights on nice X-threads.
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>>84162273
red hulk is a punk bitch who got owned by wonder man so no.
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>>84162291
well, Cyke beaten Hulk also in AvX #12
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>>84162286
no, fuck cuckbolt
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>>84162298
>needing the phoenix force to equal based Black Bolt

makes sense
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>>84162286
>expecting nice threads from x fags AKA the most awful fanbase this side of batfags

JEJ
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>>84162261
Dude, I don't want to say it, but it looks like Storm won against the Hulk.
Another point for the mowhawk.
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>>84162310
Well, Phoenix would never chose Black Bolt, so...
Also
>needs a green fart to have powers
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>>84162316
that's not parkerfags, that's not waifufags, that's not indiefags, that not /co/
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>>84162322
nigga if you're counting powerups then give Black Bolt the Reality Gem he used to keep and see the phoenix get rekt faggot.
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>>84162360
I would like to see that, actually.
The difference is, Phoenix is a god of mutants.
It amps their powers, but it's their birtright
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>>84162319
storm is cool

she beat up cyke once without her powers.

scott is a bitchmade faggot.
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oh, and btw, it's canon in "what if" #43 (vol 1)
that Phoenix could survive that (reality gem)
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>>84162385
He was mind-controlled.
And she didn't mind him when she needed dick to get warm.
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>>84162378
Not to mention that it'll be multiple rounds because even when a Phoenix goes down, they don't stay down.
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>>84162403
we all remember that (X-Men unlimited #1)
I also remember that Chuck was fapping to that
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>>84162409
All Hail Phoenix.
I really like the angle that Phoenix became something of a religious cult in future, even if only as a opposition to apocalypse and his clan akkaba
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>>84162378
>Phoenix is a god of mutants.

yeah but including it with what cyke can do is bullshit.

its like bringing it up in a fight between Colossus and Hulk. Hulk would beat his ass but obviously Phoenix Colossus would win.

Or Emma Frost vs Xavier. Xavier would rek her, but with the phoenix she would win. Its cheating.
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>>84162446
The thing is, people forget that BB also has a handicup like that fork on his head, who gives him some powers.
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>>84162446
Still pissed we never got phoenix 5 vs the four horsemen
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>>84162469
and probably never will
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>>84162403
No-no-no, Scotty just didn't have the heart anymore, remember? JEEEAAANNN!
All he wanted to do was run off to hide in Alaska to fly planes and make little diaper goblins with the Mrs.
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>>84162316

You know if I had a fuckin' dollar for every time one of you people started bitching about Batman or batfags out of nowhere I'd be a wealthy man. Doesn't even make sense, considering there's very little batfaggotry on this board at all.
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>>84159695
Now you know the suffering of Wandafags for the 8 years after Disassembled.
I'm sorry for your loss. If it helps, I'm also a fan of Mr. Sinister. And lord knows he's not nearly as much fun if he doesn't have Scott to mess with.
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>>84162469
And now we have to talk about Horseman Rasputin...
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>>84162550
Let's call him horsemanputin
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>>84162527
>he tried to replace scott with a clone
>clone went berserk and got killed
>sinister threw up his arms and declared 'fuck it, mutants have gone to shit, I might as well start obsessing over inhumans instead'
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>>84162527
Wanda? Pfft! I missed Hawkeye more. There was no guarantee that the guy with the bow and arrows wasn't considdered expendable. That was scary.
We always knew the magic win machine girl was coming back.

But yes, OMG, Mr.Sinister... I would bet money that he molested little Scotty in that evil orphanage of his.
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>>84162463
and cyke has his visor. the fork is a focus tool just like that.
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>>84162469
the four horsemen would get destroyed.
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>>84162722
the fork is the reason he flies
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>>84162785
and its just a part of his clothes/costume like the visor.

its not a cosmic force.
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>>84162846
it is. you would know it, if you were reading comics
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>>84162881
No, BB's fork is just something he put on his costume to allow him to manipulate his powers in different ways. In that way is not different from Scott using his visor to regulate the size and strength of the optic blasts. If you grabbed his fork and put it on a random human's forehead he wouldn'd be able to do shit with it
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>>84162960
That's true. But also, if you put Cyclops visor and give it to someone, it wouldn't make that someone shoot blasts.
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>>84162960
I thought a bunch of inhumans wore forks
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>>84163019
Lockjaw has it.
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>>84163056
and Gorgon, albeit different model.
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>>84159695

As someone who only recently (>5 years ago) started reading X books, I am FURIOUS about Marvel bullshit like this. They should sell the rights to Cyclops to DC is they're just gonna be cocks about it.
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>>84162994
exactly. thus they are similar. which was the original argument.
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>>84163136
>Scott leading the Doom Patrol
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>>84163830
>Morrison's disciple writing Morrison's favorite
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>>84163136
Imagine the possibilities
>Teen Scott is the new Blue Lantern
>Teen Scott buttfucks Cassandra Cain and she loves every second of it
>Teen Scott rebuilds young Justice
>Old Scott creates the ultimate villain team with Sinestro, Black Adam, Blez, Deathstroke, Luthor and Himself naturally
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