>Panels that made you stop following a comic
Fuck this shit
>>84153557
this was legendarily bad. This piece of shit issue is burned into my psyche. Fuck you for reminding me OP
>>84153557
>>84153617
Context ?
>>84153654
For unbearably contrived reasons, the Huntress accepts a date with an uber-nerd stereotype. The whole evening, while she's carrying him around fighting crime and shit, he keeps coming on to her, and she keeps rejecting him. Sample dialogue:
Huntress mentions dessert
>Nerd: When you say "dessert," do you mean...
>Huntress: Ew. No.
That kind of thing. Then, out of nowhere, on the second-to-last-page we get this shit. She fucking slept with this ultimate beta fag for no reason other than horny fanboy wish fulfillment.
Shit was retarded, senpai
>>84153755
Book was Birds of Prey, btw
>>84153755
>>84153804
That does sound pretty awful
who wrote it ?
>>84153755
>beta
Did you see the way he talked to her?
>>84153836
I don't remember...might have been Simone
Haven't we had this exact thread before?
>>84153836
Gail Simone surprisingly.
>>84153557
Is he groveling?
>>84153557
>>84153557
Please don't post this again.
>>84153557
>Panels that made you stop following a comic
Might as well make the first comic response a popular one.
>>84154287
Jesus christ comics are as bad as wrestling. I'm going back to /a/
>>84154340
>go to a thread about the worst of the worst
>get surprised to see shit.
Fucking newfag.
Go read pic related, BPRD.
>>84154287
DELET THIS
>>84153755
It wasn't wish fulfillment, Huntress was being self-destructive. Did you even pay attention to the dialogue?
>>84154287
What I don't get is, what is stopping them from just hooking back up in the new timeline?
I mean lots of folks die in comics and it seems kinda dumb on paper to strike a deal for the one life who only has a handful of years left in her anyway, but "time reset before you two started dating" doesn't seem like the most unsalvagable of punishments
>>84154526
>What I don't get is, what is stopping them from just hooking back up in the new timeline?
Editorial mandate and the ineptitude of the current writing staff
>>84154526
Part of the wish was that the two would never hook back up. So not only did it hard-reset everything and start the comic back up with the origin story (for whatever reason) but Peter/Mary Jane would never be a thing.
I was particularly annoyed because I was a fan of Spider-Girl, and this was a particular smack to the face for that character.
>>84153557
I think it's funny how Simone wrote this, yet sperged out at the thought of her fucking Hal Jordan.
I mean, I had low hopes anyway, though I still was going to see if it could make something decent of the premise. But this was the point I realised it was truly Hopeless.
>>84154526
The only change is that they didn't get married because Peter was stuck under a fat guy on their wedding day, and so eventually their relationship declined and they broke up. There were some hints post-OMD that MJ still remembers their marriage and she still loves him but that's probably all been dropped because Marvel doesn't want them back together.
>>84154601
she really dislikes Hal for some reason
>>84154287
>BONG
>>84153557
>>84153755
>>84153864
>>84153884
Bring Storytime!
Book and Issue!
>>84154667
because he's a canon pedophile and only women hate pedos.
>>84153804
Which issue?
>>84154601
Simone is weird.
This fucking issue, more specifically this godman page
What a way to shit up on two character while zt the same time don't understand what made these two so compelling together. This whole issue is a giant and public "Fuck You" to all the fans that followed this comic
FUCK YOU GALLOWAY
>>84154793
>disliking whore characters when she made on of the most pristine and noble characters into one
Okay.
osborn/goblin smiling
fuck it im not even posting it, you know the one
Someone request that issue here
>>84154787
68
>>84154601
Because that was was boys' club "Yeah Hal conquered Huntress and Lady Blackhawk at the same time" fantasy.
>>84154824
Devin Grayson wrote her fucking Dick without even bothering to care about his secret identity, that ship sailed.
>>84154856
Oh god here we go.
I still treat this issue as non-canon. Everything in this arc was so great up until this point.
>>84154600
>fan of spidergirl
What's it like havinggreattastes
>>84154856
Is it bad that i can recognize Land's art from a distance
>>84154868
#bless
>>84154856
>Cover by Greg Land.
Great Start
>>84154950
Thank god he only did the cover.
>>84154955
Someone is on their period
>>84154962
http://i.imgur.com/WuqU3u7.jpg
>>84154949
Pretty lonely, especially once they cancelled that future-Avengers line and it was just Spider-Girl by herself for the longest time.I guess I should read that mass Spider-people crossover to see her again.
>>84154856
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
>>84154626
SO FUCKING DUMB
I'M STILL MAD
HOLY SHIT
>>84154881
>>84155029
Did women ever actually wear tops that small?
>>84154626
What's wrong with Arcade killing the Red Skull's Son?
>Which frankly made my hair stand on end and almost made me quit collecting the book altogether.
If there is one transgression I will not tolerate, is a writer coming on board a book and writing a character out of their prescribed character. Willy nilly changes to a character without any reason is something I find incredibly irritating. And unfortunately that was what Gail has done in this book. It seems that the author has a story in mind that she wants to tell, and she is going to write each character in a way that will fit with her story. As opposed to allowing each `Bird' to breath on their own.
This greatest fault of this lies in Simone's portrayal of Huntress. She has not only ret-conned the characters past (Helena got fired for going AWOL not for showing up at school with bruises). But has also changed the characters personality. For some reason Simone has decided that she wants to portray Huntress as a clichéd one dimensional soap opera/ B-movie femme fatal given to loose behaviour. That is NOT who Huntress is, and it is not the same character I've admired and respected for the last four years. If it were I would not be a Huntress fan and I would not be reading BoP.
This amazon review on vol 2. What does it mean? What was the Huntress like before Simone? Was it any better?
>>84155084
Birds of prey becameTNA since benestook over art even after he left.
>>84154810
I thought people liked the subtext that Ivy was gay for Harley?
>>84155084
>Did women ever actually wear tops that small?
Yes, but only the ones with boobs look good in them. Lots of women fall into fashion magazines and just assume that some clothing will make them look like a model, though.
>>84155132
It begins.
The end thanks for reading
>>84154868
>>84154881
>>84155123
You know what Galloway did, right?. He used the subtext to shit on, and basically, destroy their whole friendship. He used what people loved about them to completely unmake what Dini did when he started the ongoing. Like I said it was very public "Fuck You" to readers and fans of the ongoing, that basically did nothing becasue DC was rebooting anyway. So that whole issue, and that whole shit-on on Harley & Ivy was for NOTHING.
If I have to make an example it'll be like that once scene of Bruce smacking Young Dick, but this time with not explanation and not follow up
>>84155169
>my favorite character
>this happens
>>84155182
teach them to accept beta splooge
>>84155014
>SYNERGY
But seriously how did he get away with it?
>>84155169
Apparently the magic eight ball was wrong
>>84155182
am I missing something with this bart and lisa simpson joke here?
>>84154856
I love how Land has no reference to trace for Huntress's mask so it looks fucking terrible
>>84154287
>>84155182
>>84154890
>Because that was was boys' club "Yeah Hal conquered Huntress and Lady Blackhawk at the same time" fantasy.
I don't buy for a second that Zinda and Hal wouldn't fuck
a threeway with Huntress is stretching it though
>>84155319
Part of his desk is purple. Nice coloring
>>84154881
>Meaty Brian
Even editors didn't read it.
>>84155480
kek
>>84154287
>>84155084
no, no adult woman actually dresses like that
>>84155084
In the late 60's and early 70's.
>>84155169
So people are all pissy cos she made a dumb fuck decision? That's it? I don't ge the big deal. I was a moderately amusing goof. She can't stand all these elements of him but hey fuck it let's get some dick tonight. Shit happens all the time. What's the issue?
>>84155270
It's all the simpsons characters. Bart, Black Lisa, Asian (?) Milhouse, Nelson, and I think Ralph's the one with the gum
I think the race-swapping is 'cause the colorist wasn't in on the joke
>>84155604
>someone this bright being this fucking stupid
I don't see it happening.
>>84154881
> art: Joe Bennett
He's like a low rent Ed Benes, which is saying something. Benes has kinda cute cheesecake, but it's like he's a porn artist who never quite moved beyond it and yet gets regular mainstream comic work.
>>84154287
..."bong"?
>>84155682
If I recall correctly, it was some countdown clock to when the decision was made. When it struck the 12th bell ring after midnight, Aunt May would stay dead (or something like that) so they needed to decide before the BONGs ended. Intended to drive tension, I'm sure.
WHY ISN'T PETER BACK WITH BLACK CAT, MJ IS WORST GIRL
>>84155350Anyone have that lady blackhawk/barda comic?
>>84155641
>Smart people never make shit decisions when horny. Ever.
>>84155821
Here
>>84154936
>sleeps with Dick
>sleeps with Roy
Did Wally get any?
>>84154922
>Roy is bad in bed
nice
>>84154287
Isn't May in 616 now anyways?
The end
>>84156065
>come back to see this
Thank you based preacher
>>84156358
What pissed you off about that panel?
>>84155169
>>84155182
>this was all done to get huntress on a no-sex diet
>robinson comes in and has ollie make a mention of a hal-blackhawk-huntress threesome
>simone throws a fit
>>84156105
Pretty sure Wally was happily married.
>>84156358
I quit after the janitor TV head killed the wife and stole the kid. That and The Will going retarded made me drop Saga hard.
>>84156399
The only justification for that line is that war sucks for women because they have to put up with what happens to the men who go to war. Most people, hearing argument would argue that the men have it worse in that scenario.
>>84153557
>And this time I'll leave my mask on.
>>84156357
You welcome anon
>>84156390
Call me a SJW, call me /co/mblr, call me all that shit, rape as a plot device is the laziest and cheapest of all the hack moves and shit like this has no place in JLA comics
>>84154922
Damn. Poor Roy.
>>84156517
Why does jean grey look 13?
>>84153557
Not even going to bother posting the other page.
>>84156547
I almost bought the new x-men fast forces pack until I saw this
>>84156552
A Y chromosome? That's what she thought she was missing to be super.
Well I mean she definitely didn't have super intelligence. Rule that the fuck out.
>>84156526
Nobody likes Identity Crisis. Also, everything that happens in any story ever is a plot device. Saying shit like Rape as a plot device is bad is as dumb as saying Murder as a plot device is bad or showing two characters getting a sandwich together as a plot device is bad. Anything that can be imagined can be used in a plot as long as it makes sense within the context of the story. Which it didn't in Identity Crisis.
>>84156483
>because they have to put up with what happens to the men who go to war
That's not what the line is saying. It's saying that woman who actually end up in the war tend to have it the worst, which tends to be fairly common in stories abut war.
See any woman on Game of Thrones.
>>84156542
Because she is.
This is the original X-Men brought to the present day. Where have you been the last few years?
>>84156552
I'll do it for you
>>84156644
It's the kind of statement bound to rub people the wrong way, though. Like, honestly, gauge the situation. If a woman gets captured and marked as an enemy she might be raped and killed, but for the majority of people war is about being forced on the run from your home. You flee, you live on roots and pinecones, and it sucks.
Meanwhile the guys are either doing the same thing or they're being shot to death while enduring their own miserable conditions. They might be eating if they're well-supplied, but if we're looking at the "suck" side, they're losing and there is likely not any food on the front either.
You could debate which gender suffers more on the losing side of a war, but I bet it depends more on how lucky you are rather than what's between the legs.
>>84156762
>>84156552
Well her mom was apparently a feminist. Imagine growing up in that environment where your highest authority figure is constantly telling you that your gender means you'll never be paid right, you won't be accepted into the industries you enjoy, and nobody will ever respect you. Try to imagine the world through a child's eyes and think of how much self-confidence a little girl is going to develop with her mom constantly "raising her awareness" like that.
>>84156399
>>84156644
Every thread this gets posted in there's a retard who jumps to defend it.
It's a literally fact that war is worse for men both in our world, and the the world that Saga takes place in.
> W-w-w-well, watch game of thrones...
Fuck off with this shit.
>>84156907
this
>>84156552
>>84156762
>>84156526
Rape as a plot device you say?
Spoilereverything is a plot device
That being said it can still be dumb, lazy and cheap just like anything.
>>84156813
if only they showed it as someone growing out of the thought that all you need is a y chromosome to be a hero and that everything is not a constant fight on gender
Instead they made her a brave woman against the patriarchy
>>84154936
Wasn't Huntress an devout Catholic?
i mean, not that Catholic girls aren't sluts. Believe me, i know. But still...
>>84156907
>It's a literally fact that war is worse for men both in our world
i take it you were not alive in the 90s?
>>84156390
If you didn't have shit taste you would have quit the comic years before this.
>>84156907
Correction, I meant to say the statement is wrong. Men don`t have it worse in Saga as from what we see both genders of all spices fight equally.
>>84157012
I don't know why you fags get mad about that "Galactus discussing linguistics" gag it's pretty funny.
>>84156105
Wally doesn't get to fuck every chick they show attraction to like Roy and Dick do.
>>84156644
But in similar conditions guys get brutalized in most cases they don't get raped but it's never any less painful.
>>84153557
Is great for masturbatory purposes though.
>>84156517
This is fucking great
>>84157114
I like posting shit comics
>>84153557
Can it be the cover?
>>84154626
>whatever you say, kid
>>84155795
Nah, it was just a bell going off. Though it lead to OMD's marriage retcon being called BONG. Then he reuses the same panels but without the bell going off in OMIT. No devil this time.
>>84154810
I don't see anything wrong with this page.
It's doing what the original btas episode couldn't do.
>>84154856
That's supposed to be a beta nerd?
>>84156419
I was on board with the concept of a femThor until I read a few panels, at which point I wanted to break the writer's jaw and drown them in my hate-vomit.
Men get raped in wars too, specially if they're taken prisoners.
I mean, even rape for men is worse. If you're a woman your captors will be taken by lust and just fuck you rough and keep you well fed, so that they can keep on fucking you. But if you're a men? It's all about the humiliation. They will insert all type of shit up your rectum, to the point of doing major internal bleeding.
In wars everybody gets raped.
>>84157262
>It's doing what the original btas episode couldn't do.
And why the shit do you think Dini NEVER did that?. Why the fuck did you think a writer with the minimal grasp of them NEVER did that?. Because it DOESN'T fit them, because it goes against everything the characters are
>>84154856
LAND
>>84154950
You should try reading Sin's Remembered. Actually, how about no.
>>84155011
Can paraplegics tell when they are on their periods?
>>84157114
Skwerl Gurl in general was pretty cringey. There's certain elements to like. Like, clearly the person writing it has a sense of humor, but boy they are sure not trying to reach out to a lot of people with that comic.
My favorite cap from that comic is pic related. Not because the dialogue is so bad - but gaze upon this drawing and telling if her torso is facing towards or away from the camera. I figured it out once but now I forgot the answer. I think she's facing towards the camera but she's doing something crazy with her arm.
>>84154626
I'm also mad about how he nerfed the fuck out of Darkhawk after his power boost from War of Kings.
>>84157341
Well she can apparently have sex so good she can get a tingle feeling as though she could still feel her legs.
>>84157302
Because it's a kid show.
>>84157395
Then why didn't other writers did it then?. Why didn't Dini did what Galloway did in the Harley & Ivy mini or any other opportunity he had?, because he knows what the characters, the friendship means and is. What Galloway did is simply shitting on them for the sake of shitting on them and not understanding what Harley & Ivy stood for
>>84156762
Fucking cringeworthy. This must be the female equivalent of "nice guy" behavior
>>84154287
AUNT MAY WOULD HAVE WANTED YOU TO STAY MARRIED, ASS FUCK
>>84157622
Yup
>>84154881
hahahahaha oh god
>>84153755
>Nerd: When you say "dessert," do you mean...
>Huntress: I mean an a less than 250 mm (10 in) of precipitation each year or a piece of chocolate cake: which do you think I mean?
>>84157128
Wally was an absolute slut before Linda tamed his loins while Dick was the one who had a stick up his ass and wouldn't fuck anyone but Starfire and even had to work up to that.
Don't remember Roy's early sluttiness other than fucking Donna and Cheshire tho.
>>84153557
I really don't understand why people hate this issue so much. I love Huntress in large part because of Simone's work with her in the first run of Birds of Prey. This issue was such a huge turning point for the character - hitting rock bottom, self destruction, absolute lack of self respect, etc. It was pretty much all uphill from here - even when she left the Birds temporarily.
>>84154626
Thanks for the edge image dumb mobile poster.
>>84154810
It was the most baffling shit ever why a writer would salt the earth between all three of the main characters like that.
Didn't that series go on for 3 or 4 issues after that one? I was so sick of it that I couldn't look at it again.
>>84156547
What's happening?
>>84159945
Nah just 2 until it ended, and it ended in the most awful, pants-on-head retarded way possible, bad blood between Selina, Ivy and Harley
>>84154856
Holy Huntress' mask looks so bad.
And he's tracing the Birds of Prey actor that portrayed Barbara, right?
>>84160010
Yeap
http://i.imgur.com/WuqU3u7.jpg
>>84154287
Peter Parker is unironically the worst hero in comics.
>>84154340
But you posted something worse than wrestling.
>>84154287
That art is so bad though
>>84156275
Nah, the Web Warriors' base of operation is on Earth 001
>>84154287
You're a tough one, I didn't even make it to OMD at the time.
>>84161026
Is this what I think it is?
The one with Gwen and Norman...
>>84155350
I always assume it was Ollie being facetious.
>>84156517
This did it for me.
I dropped it once they killed off all the men.
>>84156269
>Masoud is an ex-Mujahideen.
Whoa.
>>84161344
From the way he reacted to that gun, he was just a kid for whom hearing Soviet attack helicopters was a survival skill, unless he was a look out.
>>84161328
That was such a fun and good book before it went to shit. What a disappointment.
>>84153884
Not surprising. She started off strong but turned into another garbage DC writer. Something over there is infecting all of them.
>>84157329
Man, Sarah was fucking hot in Sins Remembered.
>>84161155
Yep.
>>84161523
Is that huge guy supposed to be Peter Parker?
>>84156269
Ok he knows what Hind sounds like, how does he what a Comanche sounds like? The Comanche is alot newer.
>>84161543
Yeah and I loved the fact that he wasn't drawn with the proportions of a twig.
>>84155604
Thot
>>84154968
>Jim ever having a problem with chopsticks
What the fuck.
>>84160185
No, trauma just gave him an abnormal fixation that goes along with his sense of justice, similar to batman.
Anytime something goes wrong and it's directly his fault he HAS to fix it, because if he doesn't all the guilt of his uncle dying comes back and to him it feels like Ben died for nothing.
This sometimes makes him not realize until it's too late that fixing the problem he caused will cause an even bigger problem.
>>84154968
Jim looks like the evil Col. Sanders from the KFC comic that DC did.
>>84156390
I'm gay and hated evrey part of this.
That Gen 13 parody scene with Morph. I was sick of all the gay shit with him and they had 3 hot babes on the team, so WTF?!.
>>84155018
we have like 100 issues of perfection
maybe one day I'll work at Marvel and write Mayday good again
>>84159896
Wallys been laid more than anyone in DC except Batman andTerra
>>84157282
Yes. He looks like Jeff Bridges on the cover. As far as I know Jeff Bridges is one sexy alpha motherfucker.
>>84155029
>dat exposed midriff costume
>Hey, I'm a regular human being without any superpowers and I'm constantly fighting street-level criminals armed with guns
>I'm going to wear a costume that leaves most of my most important internal organs exposed to serious injury because I did a lot of crunches and want to show off my toned belly(note: that's the actual reason Huntress gave for her exposed midriff costume).
So fucking stupid.
>>84154626
>>psshhh, nothing personnel kid
>>84156390
>Time paradox literally make you gay
>>84154881
Damn, this is some really high test art.
>>84159851that'd be a desert or a dessert anon
>>84163240
I like wordplay that only makes sense on the page when it should be imagined as being spoken.
>>84163225
>>high test
What does this mean?
>>84163269
"Nice tits".
>>84163265
They're both pronounced differently too though, at least they are where I come from.
>>84163284
Barely.
>>84154287
lol demon abortion. gj spiderman
>>84153557
For me is the two spread page with Kitty Pryde spouting pro life memes all over the place with a blank background in one of the Years Of The Future Past issues. It's an X-Men Secret Wars tie in but I don't have the page right now.
I can't believe this shit passed some kind of quality control.
>>84155270
I thought it was Calvin and Moe
>>84154148
whoa, what had jughead so pissed?
>>84163108
>Hey, I'm a normal human being who goes every night into the street to beat criminals.
It's a cape comics, the premises are stupid. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
>>84162052
Your right.
>>84156062
As if a smart person can't make a bad decision. Being smart means you're good at solving problems, not that you're unable to create some.
>>84158162
> One more day could have been Peter spending one last day with aunt May before she finally pass away after living a long and fulfilling life.
>>84156907
War is the worst for the ones who fight, men and women, but among the civilians, it's worst for women. Raping the women is part of wars in Africa, it's a mean to an end as much as guns there. Of course, it's different for wifes safe at home far away from the conflict.
>>84156526
>rape as a plot device is the laziest and cheapest of all the hack moves
Death is a very usual plot device, being the death of a secondary character, a main character, a loved one of a character or simply the victim of a murder at the start of most crime story.
I don't think there is one country where rape is considered worse than death (murder) in its laws.
So why is it worse in fiction for a lot of people? Is it because it's related to sex? Or because putting yourself in the shoes of a fictionnal rape victim feels worse than the shoes of a fictionnal family member of a murder victim?
>>84156293
is lady-blackhawk worth waifuing?
>>84164639
Yes Zinda is cute.
>>84163998
Pretty much.
>>84154287
What exactly is wrong with this?
The dudes fucking torturing them. Its pretty effective.
>>84156526
There is literally nothing wrong with rape in comics. If anything there should be more rape.
>>84153755
how can it be "fanboy wish fulfillment" if she spends the entire issue being a bitch to him
this whole post reads like a bitter legbeard
>>84164654
Yes she is
>>84163200
Yup
>>84154462
Isn't that what caused the problem, anon?
>>84154881
I think I agree with feminists now. Literally walking (and wheeling) pairs and tits and asscheeks
The GOAT
>>84157261
Marvel seem to be going against OMIT now, as BONG is still canon according to Spider-Man/Deadpool
>>84164155
War is infinitely worse for the civilians than the fighters.
>Raping the women is part of wars in Africa, it's a mean to an end as much as guns there
Raping is a part of war anywhere. The Nazis and Soviets raped their way across central and eastern Europe enough to noticeably affect the demographic of the continent even when you account for the devastation of the fucking war in.
>>84164247
>So why is it worse in fiction for a lot of people?
It's like the old adage that a dead soldier is "better" than a wounded one because a dead soldier you don't have to take care of. Rape (Or really any major trauma) leaves a living victim that continues to suffer long after the actual act is finished. Living victims are much easier to emphasize with and much harder to ignore.
>>84153884
>surprisingly.
gail simone is a massive perv though
>>84168700
That.
>I bought this issue
Fucking kill me
>>84168700
And this is why I love Deadpool.
