At what point did Cartoon Network become horrible?
Steven universe
LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND
Not right now, that's for sure. I mean, nothing can top that CN Real bullshit.
Oh wait hold on, this is one of those meme threads, lemme just change that real quick.
"Right now because AAAAAAAAAAAAH, Tumblr CalArts xD le bean face, CalArts Cereal and Randumb, xD"
>>84099781
I think this guy is onto something
When you grew up.
>>84099732
Scheduling wise? May of '14
Programming wise? it ebbs and flows in quality (this is one of the networks higher points)
>>84099732
Probably when new CEO stepped in. Shit on Snyder all you want, but under him, CN wasn't nearly this terrible.
Now it has:
1. Terrible reboots (TTGo, PPGo, Ben Go!)
2. tumblr shit (SU, AT, WBB etc)
3. Zombie shows (AT, RS, with SU nearing this state)
4. Fuckawful scheduling
5. Bombs
When they cancelled G:TAS and Young Justice
>>84099960
I agree with the the bombs, the scheduling and the reboots.
>tumblr shit (SU, AT, WBB etc)
Just cause you dislike a show, doesn't mean it's tumblr.
>>84099960
Nice memes.
>>84099984
Came here to post this
>>84099732
CN Real.
>>84099998
But SU and WBB definitely are. And AT definitely was when I last tried watching it a year ago or something (dunno, maybe something changed since then)
when they changed the logo
CN Real was the beginning of the downfall
>>84100040
but they definitely aren't?
>>84100040
Explain why SU and WBB are "tumblr".
2004
Everything in the world became super duper gay in 2004, not just CN. The x-treme, wacky, fun culture of the late 90s/early 00s was outpaced by this whiny "emo" culture which permeated the rest of the 00s.
>>84099752
underaged
>>84099732
I would say right after Flapjack and Chowder ended
>>84099732
The moment you grew up.
>>84100075
Thanks for the (you)'s.
>>84100064
Pushing social justice themes. Bonus points if you do it while being boring
>>84100084
>>84099897
DELET THIS
>>84100064
>>84100060
>>84100040
>>84099998
I love adventure time to death, but even I have to admit it's a tumblr show with things like vampire lesbians. Hell, there's 10,000 blogs dedicated to it. Another 50,000 about a character from it.
>>84100090
And? Explain how they are pushing SJW themes.
>>84100090
Neither WBB nor SU push SJ themes. Ever. They are cartoons for kids and nothing more.
Every time this gets posted, no one actually shows proof of "SJ themes" other than characters being thick or fat and not being the sole butt of the joke.
>>84100122
I still think that Fiona and Cake is the worst thing that ever happened to AT
>>84100066
Yeah I noticed that too, but I think it started earlier. Like, 2002 or 03 earlier.
From a 90's point of view, the 2000's looked like they'd be so much fun - like the 90's with added technology.
But then we got this gay ass shit.
>>84100089
Loud House is just okay. If it weren't for the girls the pedos jack off to, no one would be interested.
>>84099781
>CalArts Cereal
What did I miss now?
>>84100148
The year of a decade that ends with -4 is usually the year where the decade "cleans house" and develops its own identity, rather than leeching off the previous one
In 2014, the 00s culture died and was replaced with this SJW shit for some reason
>>84100176
it's supposed to be "serious and random", thus "cereal and randumb"
>>84100184
This decade was just doomed from the start, wasn't it?
>the Great Recession in full blast
>war everywhere
>swine flu
>remnants of uncool 2005 aesthetic
>>84100176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPf6x_DGFso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YA-NZ1cqj4
Oh nothing, just cereal companies copying aesthetics/trends of popular cartoons like AT and so on to shill cereal to kids like they always d-uh I mean "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, FUCKING CALARTS GET OUT OF MY CEREEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!"
>>84100134
At least the porn was good. Abd they barely showed up in episodes.
when they tried that live action bullshit. but it got better
>>84100090
You dumbfucks with your imaginary enemies are the reason /co/ can't have a single good discussion.
Nothing on CN is made "for tumblr." It's just that tumblr took a random CN show that was slightly more serialized and latched themselves onto it. And nobody would ever interpret SU's vagueness as it is without tumblr projecting their own insanity onto it.
Don't let them ruin it for you. For our sake so you can stop with this retarded shitposting.
>>84100119
>>84099897
Just a reminder, correlation =/= causation
CN real happened as I grew up, but that does not mean that CN got worse because I grew up. It got worse because Stu Snyder was a fucking idiot.
>>84100040
I only use tumlr to check out western porn artists and some sfm animatora.
I know Doxy made an SU doujin, but thats about it.
>>84099732
The moment it made real-live shows on its channel. What the fuck were they thinking?
>>84100379
They were thinking "Disney and Nick make tons of cash doing this without much investment unlike animation. Why don't we get a slice of the pie?"
Thankfully it backfired hard.
>>84100379
I'm thinking executives looked at live action shows that got popular on Disney and Nickelodeon, and figured
>we can do that!
the rest is history
>>84100287
You're right. If I listened to /co/, or 4chan in general, I'd never be able to like anything ever because some idiot on Tumblr or Reddit really likes it too. Hell, I can think of a few shows that could easily be twisted into having "Tumblr values" or whatever despite being fairly offensive.
>>84099732
CN Real.
Other than that, CN is usually fine. I mean, it's always got some stupid fucking bullshit going on. It always seems to have at least one terrible show that it replays endlessly. But it also always has at least a couple of shows that are worthwhile, which is about all that I can expect from a network.
>>84099781
Wait till that basement case begins going insane about TMS
>>84100433
Don't call him. He's like a ghost, if you mention him, he appears.
>>84099732
When you grew up.
Meguzi
>>84100132
We Bear Bears is fine.
Steven Universe....come on.
I even agree with a lot of what it says but come ooooooon.
>>84100559
Stop being retarded.
Real ass answer: The round of firings the Boston Mooninite scare caused. They haven't had someone who gives a fuck in charge since.
>>84099732
when the show I-dare-not-speak-of, a.k.a. "Your New Favorite Show" first came on once Christina Miller first came in.
>>84100586
>>84099960
>>84100339
But Jim Samples made the movie Re-animated - which set the stage for Out of Jimmy's head - in 2006, right before Snyder got there.
>>84100559
Great argument you sure convinced me
>>84100559
What the fuck does SU say that is "tumblr?" What, lesbians? Does that mean every yurishit anime is "tumblr" now even though the sect of users on there that's become the bogeyman gives less than two shits for them?
SU is a toothless, serialized cartoon and I'm going to stop posting about it in fear that this will become off-topic and turn into yet another round of "fuck off SU" and "fuck off X"
>>84099897
>>84100084
>/co/
>>84100066
Yeah, then it was in full effect in '06.
>>84100064
The fact that Chad Isn't on that list and shill is slipped in there makes me think something is a foot. Seems like a real Shill thing to do to try and discredit the word even more so you can shill more. Also cartoon network started going down hill in 04 but was shit by 07. That's the point I remember being embarrassed to have it on and it stayed that way for years until when adventure time was new and I really liked Clarence when it came out cause I was a fan of Skylar page so that may have been biased. Worst Era was 07-09 (yeah i hate your new favorite show too but im too busy too really notice it i just watch everything online like anyone else but the in your face marketing is obnoxious) cn real was a horrible mistake. It could've worked if that show about rollercoasters was a thing that ran in between cartoons for like a summer and you know all the questions were cartoon themed. Can't have content in between commercials though anymore goyim gotta make those ad shekels.
The moment you grew up and it stopped being relatable
>>84100916
Who the fuck is rubyfag?
>>84100839
I rarely see people calling each other chads.
Buy if you don't like MY favorite show, then that means you're obviously a super secret shill agent working for the enemy channel.
>>84099732
When it became real
>>84100839
Does anyone have a translator? I don't speak Cro Magnum.
>>84100916
Fucking who?
>>84100932
>>84101027
A Steven Universe avatarfag who commonly uses Ruby reaction pictures, fights with other fandoms in their own threads, and defends or hypes the overlasting shit out of Steven Universe to the point of utter unsufferability.
>>84100230
>being this triggered someone doesn't like an artstyle
>>84101045
So defending SU means that I must be rubyfag.
You are fucking retarded.
>>84101046
Dislike the artstyle all you want, that's fine. I'm talking about the people who cite fucking cereal commercials as proof of "the detriment of Western Animation cause muh CalArts" and other retarded shit like that.
>>84101045
I sure as hell wasn't trying to hype the show or anything since I was calling it "toothless". Aren't /sug/ people always going on about how its breaking the mold or some shit?
>>84100066
You Mean 2007.
>>84101076
We see you, bluepearlfag.
>>84101106
>If you agree with my opinion, you're [this guy I don't like]
>>84100054
FUCKIN DIS
>>84100938
There are shills on this site don't be foolish. /co/ streams wouldn't be taken down if they weren't aware of us. Gubbermint is only on /k/ and /pol/ /int/ really. Shills are on every board though and to deny it is silly. Microsoft Shills on /g/ hillary on /pol/ a variety of show runners and Internet webcomic creators come to /co/ and Jesus just look at /v/ around this year's E3. But yeah I am a shill to you're a shill were all shills!
>>84101179
Two*
>>84101179
But streams are taken down because they're public an pop up in a Google search, thus making it very easy for companies to enforce those shit DMCA laws. Not because there's secret corporate spies on a site anyone can post on.
Shill calling is cancer that inevitably devolves into "anyone I disagree with is a shill" which is one of the reasons /pol/, /v/ and /tv/ are in so insufferable, nobody argues with arguments, they just throw whatever label they think applies to your opinion and call it a day
>>84101179
But does /a/ has shills?
>>84100122
sauce
>it's a calarts thread
>>84099732
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYURRRSSDAYYY XD *cue autistic children*
You think Cartoon Network is shit?
You think fucking Cartoon fucking Network is shit?
DISNEY ONLY HAS ONE CARTOON NOW
>>84102922
fair point
>>84102922
ultimate spiderman?
>>84103280
I was thinking Star Vs.
I completely forgot Spiderman existed.
I'm sure you wish you did too.
>>84101372
Crunchy roll shills there
>>84103309
i thought it was Star Vs. was nic
Can we stop this sort of meme thread forever thanks
>>84103590
I need a link, pls.
>>84103590
Alright, I have to read whatever this shit is.
>>84105268
Put your name in the name field so I can filter you, Famicon
>>84099732
Stuart Snyder
>>84099732
TTsG
Cartoon Network's low point was 2007-2009, and anyone who says otherwise simply wasn't there.
>>84105489
Agreed. I distinctly remember being excited to watch cartoons all summer vacation and... there just wasn't anything. Juniper Lee and KND reruns can only get you so far.
>>84099732
As soon as you grew up. Please tell us more about how when YOU were a child TV was objectively the best.
>>84106124
Dude we have already debunked that, CN is adultproofing their shows just to make a quick buck.
We need to make adultproofing illegal, end of story.
>>84099960
SU aint half bad senpai
>>84099960
We could of been ass raping Mir right now BUT NOOOOOO..... CN had to be cheap and back stab TMS & Dezaki along the way.
If CN just spent the money to use TMS we would of been in another renaissance right now.
Also the Freakazoid of Mecha shows.
>>84099732
When they shut down CNX.
>>84099897
/thread
>>84099897
>>84106758
NO! We already debunked that.
>>84106775
>be a child
>have mostly shit taste because you are a child
>pay little attention to shows you don't like because you aren't a jaded adult yet
>become a teenager
>develop edgy superiority complex because lack of self-awareness and nostalgia goggles
>"kids shows these days are shit because x! My generation's shows were better!"
>become grandpa everyone hates
>repeat with next generation
Like clockwork.
CN Real was as low as they could get honestly.
>>84107017
Pretty sure most of us didn't have cn real or half of our shows go on hiatus mid season regularly growing up
>>84099732
Originally, 2009. Now, nuMale shows that came after the success of Adventure Time and nuMale pandering SU.
>>84107211
Also they used to show actual holiday specials and syndicationed/older shows. Now days it's almost strictly current running shows.
>>84099732
When you grew up and stopped liking cartoons?
>>84100064
The more (You) know.
>>84099752
First post best post.
>>84107017
>pay little attention to shows you don't like because you aren't a jaded adult yet
This is the key. Niggas in here analyzing the entire lineup like "I don't like this show." It's not CN that got bad, it's you, Anons. You got old and rigid and forgot how you used to be able to ignore stuff you didn't like.
When Kids next door aired
>>84106124
>>84107479
why are you people so damn insecure?
>>84100064
>Agenda
>>84099732
when you grew up
>>84107534
It was a lot easier back then since there was more than 6 shows airing.
>>84099732
When you grow up
Thank kami-sama anime is immune to this stuff
>>84107017
No, it's.
>Be raised on Tiny Toons and the post-48 Looney Tunes (with B/W Porkys) on Nick (Ren & Stimpy was barely airing by my development years (4+ years old), I did watch Rugrats, Ahh! Real Monsters, Rocko & Doug however).
>Only watching Nick other shows just to get to Tiny Toons & the post-48 Looney Tunes (with some B/W Porkys in there for good reasons)
>Discover CN
>Sees not only the Pre-48 Looney Tunes but also Tom & Jerry & Popeye was well.
>Sees Tex Avery's & Bob Clampett's color work for the first time (their B/W Porkys were the only shorts Nick aired).
>Falls in love with those shorts.
>Animaniacs and the other Spielberg cartoons are also there as well.
>Only watches CN's other programming just to get to said shorts/shows (by the time I got to CN they almost never aired the HB shorts but I got as much as I can at the time).
>Loved Cow & Chicken and Johnny Bravo, also enjoyed PPG alot as well.
>Started airing anime.
>Like other 9 year olds at the time I got hooked on Sailor Moon, did not care to much on DBZ however.
>Pokemon boom happen, got sucked into (replacing Sailor Moon) it until very late into the Orange Island season.
>Watching CN for old shorts & Johnny Bravo, Nick for Spongebob, FOP & JN.
>CN Starts airing Hamtaro, seen other anime before then and knew about Nintendo's games, watched it and got into Laura & Kana the same way I got into Avery, Clampett and those Spielberg cartoons.
>Stopped watching TV in bulk once CN stopped airing Hamtaro in bulk.
>Still watched Nick for SBSP, FOP & JN until 2006'ish.
>Watched Fox for The Simpsons, FG & AD, only watches The Simpsons now of days as I stopped watching FG after The Pie Song aired.
>Came back to CN during Fosters, Billy & Mandy and Lazlo in 2006 then later on Chowder & Flapjack but stopped after that.
Thats how things go.
>>84107479
>>84107759
>>84107943
We have already debunked that.
Personally, Cartoon Network was over for me when they started airing Con Carne, Robot Jones and Kids next door. It really didn't help that our Cable Provider started to broadcast a channel called 'ANIMAX'
>>84108035
>Not liking KND
>>84108035
out
>>84099897
This, I was going into high school when they started that Meguzi shit. Good time to switch to Discovery and History Channel, then swap back for AS.
>>84108035
KND was great though.The Grim Adventures crossover was fucking awful though, and Mandy ruined that with her Mary Sue bullshit.KND should've crossed over with EEnE instead.
>>84099960
>terrible reboots
sure
>tumblr shit
just like tumblr's interpretation of the word "gender", that's so subjective as to be pointless, and at the very least at used to be great before it collapsed under its own lore, su has great lore going for it (as well as some interesting classic anime and vidya touches to give it its own charm), and wbb is at least superbly comfy and a good contrast to the typical cynicism of animated tv series nowadays
>zombie shows
at needs to end, and rs should've ended one season after the movie, but su hasn't even been on that long
>fuckawful scheduling
constant ttgo marathons were awful, but let's not forget that snyder was also notorious for awful scheduling, that period where there were old shows from like 10AM to 3PM being a notable exception
>bombs
?
>>84099732
When they tried that CN Real shit. They got better since.
>>84107876
And you'd ride bikes over ramps the older kids made and collect fireflies because there were soo many. And you life wasn't about television or comics.
>>84108212
>The Eds convince the KND to lend them a ton of money to help fight adults by showing them Edd's engineering talents.
>Turns out that it was a scam.
>The Eds use Ed's strength, Edd's engineering, and Eddy's wiliness in a fight with Sector V.
>Chaos and hilarity ensues.
Fuck, that does sound better.
>>84103590
I have got to know what this shit is
>>84106124
>>84107479
>>84107759
>>84107943
Shills please fucking kill yourself.
Yes. Yourself. Samefag.
>>84099732
>At what point did Cartoon Network become horrible?
When they spun their classic stuff off into Boomerang. Alternatively, when they revived Dexter with absolutely zero talented people to work on it.
>>84107958
It amuses me how so many people always admit they watched Hamtaro just for Laura and her friend.
>>84100148
Everyone was looking forward to the 2000's.
Then 9/11 happened and everything started regressing.
>>84099732
when fusion fall died
>>84111519
She has more then 1 friend.
>>84111519
I watched Hamtaro as a good and then always just vaguely remember it. It got to a point where I doubted the show's existence, but then I finally remembered the title because my friend remembered it. Don't remember if it was good or not though.
I also remember liking Totally Spies and being salty about Amazing Spies and wondering where the girls were. And I remember Princess Natasha but then it stopped airing I think and just disappeared. Word Girl and Cyberchase were good
>>84099960
>3. Zombie shows
basically this, there just isnt anything interesting to watch on the channel anymore
>Zomball
>Avadakedavra Time
>Sepulcher Universe
>Reghoular Show
etc etc
>>84113228
>I watched Hamtaro as a good
*Kid
>>84108386
>bombs
>?
The "air a few episodes in one week, then go on several month hiatus" thing
Also, it's part of the scheduling issue. Also, until new CEO, CN used to have a working schedule on their site (for a week ahead) and they tried to keep to it. Then it went from week to a day, then it ceased to exist. There are lots last minute cancellations, changes etc. WB shows are being shat on constantly.
When they started doing live action stuff.
>>84099960
>Terrible reboots
They weren't this bad, but they were around. I'll give you this one
>Tumblr shit
Your list of examples don't add up to any coherent definition of what this means.
>Zombie shows
We've always had zombie shows. Shows getting old and losing their ideas didn't start here. Remember the later seasons of Powerpuff Girls and Dexters Lab?
>Fuckawful scheduling
Something that has always been a thing. As a kid you didn't care about it much, especially without an online presence to give you any information about this shit.
>Bombs
The only ones who have been horribly abused by bombs is Steven Universe, a show you claim to hate anyways. Everything else was just given a bomb last summer to compensate for the lack of predictable kid schedules. Fuck, back when they were actually dishing out bombs like that, you got more episodes than you would have normally.
