Ix-nay on the arpstone-way
Fuck's sake, I've been checking the site for an update once every few hours for the past three days and I STILL hear about from /co/ first.
Also maybe we should've waited until morning.
so we get the crossdessing faggot on the party now ? neat.
>>83994026
So it looks like Narklet and Vislet are not on the same page re: Artifacts.
Those names... Narklet = Nark Yinglet, Vislet = Visionary Yinglet? Narklet was sent to spy on Vislet after all... is that the joke, ValSalia?
>>83994988
I think Lopin could be a trap.
FANCY LAD NOT TERRIBLE LAD
>Lopin has been forced to join your party!
>You have been forced to accept!
>>83994824
You me both.
>>83995953
>Artifacts
FUCK. That makes so much sense. I thought the word was artificial as in artificial Yinglets.
>>83994026
Does this count as renting or buying.
So is this too early in the thread to ask if that one bit of art has been scanned yet?
>>83996757
What?
HMMMM
Looks like Shifty McYinglet might be a little more aware of Kass's situation than the rest of the Patriarchs.
Neither he nor Vislet are very subtle, though.
>>83997058
That bit of rule 34 that people were saying looked like it had been done by... ButtercupSaiyan, I think it was? All we had of it was a photograph.
>>83995962
So a female, dressed as a male groomed to look intentionally feminine? Is that like an inverse-reverse-trap or something?
>>83997603
Lopin doesn't have the female tail tuff. He is male.
>>83997887
Could be masked with a pair of scissors and possibly some dye.
>>83998625
also 4chan y u think spoiler links is spam
>tfw no yinglet gf
>>83998685
we talkin gf or >gf
>>83998947
The difference is irrelevant
>>83994824
same here
>>83998685
You know, YOU can be the yinglet gf. Fancy lad is gonna reveal a thing or two about that soon enough.
Food for thought
>yinglets only live to be 20-30
How old is Kass? Did his age translate directly, or does he have another decade or so before his heart gives out?
>>83994026
>Even Vizlet know's he's a fancy lad
>disgruntled wink in panel 9
This is why I keep reading.
>Chochi telling Val to get to work
I like his art and all, but he has no room to fucking talk. People have been waiting for updates on Beatriz and others for months and years.
>>83999310
>Chochi telling Val to get to work
where did you see this?
>>83999352
On Chochi's DA profile. Pic related.
>>83999419
Oh come on, you're not taking that seriously are you?
>>83999419
Chochi is just smacking Val on the behind playfully.
>>83995953
>Kassin: can be shortened into a more feminine Kass, convenient if the character were to switch genders for some reason
>Lopin: French for "Patch". Has he "patched" a hole in his species evolutionary chain by introducing Kass and his/her human DNA?
>>83995953
>>83996632
Get out of here STALKER
What are these things and why do I want to fuck them?
>>83999750
?
>>83999419
A sign of autism is not understanding social cues.
>>83999467
>>83999468
>>83999919
Yes, but he's still saying that while being so far behind people have dropped out of his Patreon. I like his artwork, and could give less than a shit since I'm not paying for anything, but that probably wasn't the smartest thing for Chochi to say.
>>83999919
A memetic spoken line from a game about hunting weird artifacts in the area around Chernobyl.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.T.A.L.K.E.R._(series)
>>83999948
Or maybe, and check this out, he understands what it is like to not deliver, to not work on a project and to have those who follow leave. Maybe he knows from experience, and doesn't want it to affect val like it did him.
>>83999961
Yeah I got where it was from, just dont know what it had to do with my comment, silly billy.
Or maybe it was an off handed joking comment jesus fucking christ.
>>83999948
Really? How much?
I have interest in this as I have been keeping track of various webcomic artists patreons over time for purely autistic retard reasons, but Chochi was not on the list.
>>84000004
Dont know why the comment got cut up like that. Change the last line to the first quote. Weird.
>>84000004
>Yeah I got where it was from, just dont know what it had to do with my comment, silly billy.
>Or maybe it was an off handed joking comment jesus fucking christ.
Sorry. I think it was just a reference to the word "Artifacts" in your post and mine, so yeah, obviously just a joke.
>>84000051
>>84000178
Oh, right, only the silly billy part was directed at me. Sorry again.
>>83994026
> W I N K
>>84000197
Its alright, love. I should have just deleted and re entered the comment. Dont worry, nonny. I love you still
>>83994026
He will be the party fucktoy.
>Wait! Not the human, it will never fit!
Loopin's happy trail goes that far? Look at that fuzzy tail
>tfw when you'll never be a qt ratbird grill with a fancy lad of your very own
Kass you lucky son of a scav
>>83994824
it is posted on FA and DA before the site.
>>83994026
>panel 4
https://youtu.be/0ev9wDHtxWE
>>83994026
>The car was a steal.......... wink
this whole page confuses me
I honestly wouldn't mind if the rest of the comic was just yinglets doing yinglet things
>>84002052
What sort of things would you have them get up to, anon?
I'd like to see the Yinglet equivalent of a boxing match... thirty-second bouts of smekking (no notfun biting allowed on pain of pain).
>>83999211
>>83999468
*smecking
>>84001889
For you, or anyone else is isn't sure whats happening
So earlier, our fancy lad Lopinthe wounded onesold Kassthe red clothed onean 'artifact' [1] that transformed him from a human male to a greater yinglet female, to his great distress. [2]
Also earlier Visletthe one with glassesmentioned to Kass that she believes Narkletthe one in the first panel in OP's picturewas sent to keep an eye on her because she was trying to progress her enclave through dealing with humans [3]
Here, in this page, we see Narklet say Lopin knows he must report any found artifacts. This tells us Yinglets in general know OF artifacts, but not what they do. They probably just assume them to be trinkets
Since Narklet obviously knows shit others do not it's fairly safe to assume he knows what happened to Kass, and he knows Kass's false backstory [4] is a load of shit.
Vislet has no idea what an artifact does, but she sees Narklet attempting to hide all of this by taking Lopin. So she butts in and has Lopin put in the safest place she can think of - with Kass at House Ivenmoth, away from the enclave.
So now Kass has his very own fancy lad.Also to note: Narklet is the patriarch of scavenging, which means he is in the best possible place to find out when an artifact is discovered.
[1] http://www.valsalia.com/comic/prologue/11/
[2] http://www.valsalia.com/comic/prologue/14/
[3] http://www.valsalia.com/comic/out-of-placers/oops-27/
[4] http://www.valsalia.com/comic/out-of-placers/oops-23/
>>84003879
Who are you? I mean this in not a bad way. Just curious.
>>84003909
Just some cancerous tripfag
>>84003925
Yeah well, leave my race of Kobolds out of this. We have a bad enough rap as is.
>>84003940
>>84003953
>>84003879
>Vislet ... sees Narklet attempting to hide all of this by taking Lopin. So she butts in and has Lopin put ... with Kass at House Ivenmoth
That's the detail I was looking for.
Now you know the exact location of female yinglet genitals.
>>84004180
uh, no shit? Where else would they be?
>>84004180
when was this posted.
>>84004206
They mate like the coneheads.
>>84004211
Its a non-canon sidestory, look at the extras tab on the website
>>84004229
You again...
>>84004231
Now I am anon
Now you'll never know if it's me or not, and this will haunt you til your dying day
>>84004180
>Now you know the exact location of female yinglet genitals.
Am I? That isn't really specific
>>84004254
>and this will haunt you til your dying day
Not rly. I was hoping we could RP as 2 silly Kobolds looking for treasure one day, but if you want to leave thats okay ;_;
NOTE: Why the hell am I messing quotes up so much?
>>84004570
whoa whoa whoa, spoiler that stuff anon
This is a good pg13 Christian board
--> <--
>>84004685
What is the creature on the left?
>>84004751
an old style kobold
Last shitty art what I could post ON (counting what I posted in the last thread). Cheers.
>>84004751
Thats the "Pilot" whom is a Kalakian (Maned Wolf) whom crashed on the same planet as where OoP plays. Xcept its in the desert, and in my iteration, the whole planet is an experiment site of a protoculture what gone extinct ages ago, but that does not stop their drones and machines to stop doing their job.
>>84004254
pls come back my Kobold brother.
>>84004807
Wrong pic -.-
>>83994026
I love how tired Kass is of this bullshit.
>>84003970
Seferien should make more Kobolds.
>>84004928
>Seferien should make more Kobolds.
I wish ECMajor made more quite frankly.
>>84005025
Everyone should make more Kobolds.
Is Valsalia gonna show up again?
>>84005050
I noticed Val about the thread :)
>>84005050
ValSalia...
ValSalia...
ValSalia...
>>84005066
>>84005069
What would you even talk to him about here? You can always leave a comment for him on his website or something.
>>84005078
People just want to bask in his humble glory
>>84005091
Weird. Ive seen communities who did this before. It never ends well.
>>84005078
There are some great thinkers here too, and those ppl whom took time and made a panel by panel "observations" of OoP, golden.
>>84005078
They just love attention.
like this piece of shit >>84003925
>>84005102
Well, thats the nice thing about 4chan.
The sycophants will never have so much weight as to drive off the people with legitimate criticisms.
It's all up to the artist to avoid being blinded and to look at both sides.
>>84005127
Thanks for the (You), man
I fucking LOVE attention
Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
>>84005142
Why didn't you respond to me?
>>84005078
How do you know that Valsalia is a male?
>>84005250
Are we really going to have this conversation?
>>84005250
Because his tail doesn't have a big poofy bit on the end, duh
>>84005305
>>84004685
>>84004766
>>84004807
>>84005066
nice
>>84004825
verrrrrry nice
>>84005250Someone found his Youtube channel.How the fuck did they manage that anyway?
>>84004229
...Are we SURE it's not canon?
Well the thread got weird so Im out.
Val, if you do come here, good job and keep up the good work.
>>84005371
Yes - Valsalia does commissions on the side so his comic isn't a total time sink. This was one of those.
I believe he did state it directly at one point
>>84005390
>Well the thread got weird so Im out.
It was always weird, my friend
>>84005347
It's on the front page of his Deviantart.
>>84005390
>Well the thread got weird so Im out.
>comic is about a dude turning into a female rat thing
>>84005336
84004825 was before things got revaled properly in OoP.
Here have some extra derp, Desert Yinglet Olympics.
Now Im off for about 6 hours. Cheers
>>84005429
Well then.
>>84005444
>>comic is about a dude turning into a female rat thing
Yeah but it is sexy. Thread is not sexy.
>>84005504
That is fucking hilarious on at least 3 levels.
>>84005608
>comic is about a dude turning into a female rat thing
>Yeah but it is sexy. Thread is not sexy.
>this thread is too weird for me
wew lad
>>84005633
Yeah? I do not understand where you are coming from or what point you are trying to make.
>>84005649
>Well the thread got weird so Im out.
>still here
Would you guys date a yinglet?
Would you kiss a yinglet?
Would you marry a yinglet?
>>84005660
Im not even that dude.
>>84005674
I wouldhuga yinglet.
>>84005674
Val himself has confirmed that if you so much as offer a slice of luncheon meat to a yinglet, he or she will love you unconditionally for the rest of his or her life. Be careful with that.
>>84005674
Seeing as how they only live 20 years, It would be hard to take one in marriage knowing they wouldn't last.
>>84005674
i dunno mani don't like sea food
>>84005745
so give it to the yinglet.
>>84005674
Depends.Could I be a yinglet too?
>>84005786
you wouldn't want to be
>>84005754
dont think they like seafood
>>84005674
>marry
Non-compatible genitalia bro
>>84005822
>dont think they like seafood
No, they love seafood.
>>84005754
But then they smell like seafood
>>84005674
>>84005873
>No, they love seafood.
citation needed
>>84005913
>citation needed
http://www.valsalia.com/comic/out-of-placers/oops-28/
Hated raw oysters, becomes yinglet, raw oysters now orgasmic.
Hell, their big tooth is called the SHELLTOOTH
>>84005913
They literally have a tooth dedicated to cracking open raw oysters.
>>84005943
Isn't that just crustaceans though?
>>84005961
Well, crustaceans are the easiest thing for them to get since they tend to lurk small swampy areas and beaches. It's their main food source
I assume if they learned how to fish properly they would enjoy that too
>>84005961
Oysters aren't crustaceans, yinglet-brain.
>>84005822
>Non-compatible genitalia bro
Hence why you'd need transformed yourself first.
>>84005998
>>84006001
Hmmm. I just looked it up because I really didn't believe you guys, but it seems you are sorta correct. Whatever.
>>84006012
Pretty sure they have genitalia like birds. Hope you like rubbing.
>>84006055
You don't?
>>84006055
Ducks have corkscrew dicks.
Genitalia are the fastest evolving part of any organism. You can't really make any assumptions on yinglet genitalia on the basis that they're kind of like birds.
Though, given how freaky insect procreation is, that makes me kind of worried about what bug-girl might do to people that tickle her antennae.
>>84006156
>You can't really make any assumptions on yinglet genitalia on the basis that they're kind of like birds.
You can make an educated guess, though. Based on information on the comics, and the size of yinglets, they have never small genitals. So yeah, like birds they probs just rub.
>>84005873
>But then they smell like seafood
be honest, the part you are interested in already smells like seafood.
>>84006055
Val says they evolve stupid fast and have lots of mutations. Chances are you are gonna find a few if not an entire strain with compatible junk.
>>83994824
Shit's weird like that. A couple times, co had the poppy opossum new page like 10 minutes before the site had it, somehow.
>>84006250
My wife has never questioned our high-fruit diet, particularly pineapple.
It's the secret to a happy marriage, anon
![038-06[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/euhRJAD.jpg "038-06[1].png")
I like OOP's take on the Merchant Lord.
In any other story he would probably exploit Kass' situation and pay him a slave wage because Viracroix is probably the only person that would ever think of hiring a yinglet.
Instead he tries to make the situation mutually beneficial.
I post this thing, go to bed, wake up and this thread's already got 100+ posts, wow.
>>83995953
It was in fact completely unintentional that Narklet may in fact be NARCing on Vizlet
>>83996632
He was actually about to say "artificial sweeteners." They cause cancer, and the enclave has some very strict rules about it.
>>83996656
More like "inheriting"
>>83999257
Oh my, that is certainly a good question, isn't it? Hmm.
>>83999750
This guy kept repeating the line endlessly in my first game, and I thought I'd wandered into a restricted area, so I spent like an hour trying to find my way in before realizing he was just raggin' on me.
I heard that line so many times that it will remain in my head until the day I die, even after all my memories of my life and family have faded into dementia
>>83999948
>>84000004
That's actually the main reason I haven't started a Patreon yet; the idea sounds great, but my daily life has been pretty unpredictable for the last couple years, and I can never tell if a huge project will come up that'll keep me from staying on a weekly-ish schedule.
Stuff just comes up sometimes for just about anyone, an artists can be particularly vulnerable when it happens, given the many hours of applied creative energy that it takes to produce just one page (especially at the detailed level that Chochi puts into his panels).
>>84001394
Yeah, I've only recently become less lazy when it comes to that; with the new Comicpress site, the process is a lot faster, so there's usually only a delay of 10 minutes or so between the site/DA/FA uploads now.
>>84003879
Listen to this kobold, it understands
>>84005078
>>84005091
>>84005102
>>84005120
>>84005142
The comments on the website/art sites are great, but these last couple /co threads that I've hung around in have produced some solid art and useful feedback, which the more conversational format of 4chan seems to really lend itself to.
>>84005745
>>84005822
>>84005873
>>84005943
Yeah, they evolved as shallow-water fishers, so they're all about shoving their faces into big juicy clams. /metaphor
>>84006770
>Oh my, that is certainly a good question, isn't it? Hmm.
I would assume he has a fair bit of time left, given his heart wouldn't have been worn by the years of anxious excitement.
Also, you know Patreon has an option where you get paid based on content released and not monthly, yeah?
It's very rarely used, I can only think of one person in two dozen webcomic artists who does it.
>>84006411
Yeah, the lack of suffering compared to other suchlike webcomics is very appealing IMO. It concentrates on the stuff I'm here for without bogging it down with angst.
>>84006770
>Oh my, that is certainly a good question, isn't it? Hmm.
DON'T YOU GO THERE VAL
DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE
>>84006271
I often get the new page on the feed a while before you can actually [Next Page ->] to it, on way too many comics
Val are commissions canon.
>>84007390
He's said No before, so I'm guessing No.
>>83994026
I wish i could to protect fancy lad.
>>83998625
this is a blue board, son
>>84006770
>This guy kept repeating the line endlessly in my first game, and I thought I'd wandered into a restricted area
Oh, with me he first said "come in, have a seat". Then I got closer, and he did the whole "GET OUT OF HERE STALKER" thing. Scared me shitless.
But in my world, anyone attacking me is just volunteering their gear for a greater purpose. So I kept walking.
It's art time. Post arts.
>>84006779
Val have you checked your email recently, I sent you an email about a commission last week
>>84007933
OK.
This happened again because of too much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q053PBA47gY
>>84006812
Content-based Patreon, eh? That could certainly change things. Gonna look into that.
>>84007316
This is an issue I've spent so much damn time figuring out how to handle. Obviously the characters are struggling with being Out of Place in their own ways, and have a whole lotta reasons not to be happy, but a big theme in this story is that when faced with absurd hopelessness in life, we can either cry or laugh, and this story is more about the latter option.
I mean obviously Kass ain't gonna have a great time once the reality of his situation comes down on him, but aside from the occasional "serious" page, that will never be the main theme of the comic.
>>84007353
See the above comment for how that'll likely be handled; but still, this is an era where if a human lives to be 40, then they're considered to have lived a good, long life.
>>84007390
>>84007445
Only in a loose semi-canon sort of way, at best. An important theme in the main story is that what happened to Kass is completely unheard of and singular.
In anything-goes-commission-fun-land, people are getting yingletized at a rate that will probably overcome the entire human race in a few decades, so that would definitely change things.
The "Of Ends and Beginnings" commission comic is the closest thing to canon I've done, as it takes place in a real location in the setting.
>>84008166
Yes, just remembered that email is a Thing I Have, and just replied a couple minutes ago! Although you might get your fill of 80's yinglets...
>>84008328
...from this thing, holy crap! Why does this particular theme work so well for these little ratbirds? Hell if I know, but I like it. Maybe the 80's obsession with bright gaudy clothing, which is totally their thing.
Nice work including the long-birdy-neck too, which is a feature that a lot of people tend to forget. Always great to see another piece from you!
>>84008443
>a big theme in this story is that when faced with absurd hopelessness in life, we can either cry or laugh, and this story is more about the latter option.
This is a big reason I like this comic so much.
>>84008622
Glad you approve, the anatomy is pretty wacky
Your critters are a wonderful menagerie of several cute things, makes them fun to draw!
Have another bump.
>>84009041
>>84008328
these are kawaii as fuck my man butthe legs are wrong
>>84008328
THE MOST PRETTY
>>84008443
>when faced with absurd hopelessness in life, we can either cry or laugh, and this story is more about the latter option.
You're a better man than I, Val.
>>84009041
Goddammit DK I can't be falling in love with OCs stop it right now.
>>84008443
>An important theme in the main story is that what happened to Kass is completely unheard of and singular.
Which is why I like this comic so much. It uses TF as a premise, not as a constant part of the plot or fetish fuel.
I can support the content-based Patreon idea, since it won't hold you to a set schedule. I know you get a lot of people asking about the next update, but I'd much rather you take the time to get the page where you want it instead of feeling forced to make a rushed update or a filler page.
By the way, I think I mentioned this too late in the last thread and you didn't see it, but have you given any thought into taking all the Regional Guide pages and putting them into their own chapter in the archives? I really didn't notice it on my first read, but on the re-read I noticed they really break the pacing of the story and feel awkwardly placed. I don't think they should be shoved into the side-stories and art section since they contain important lore about the world, but inter-spaced inside the chapters feels weird. What say you?
I SHIP FANCY LAD
>>84009268
It's like the inverse of another quality webcomic I know with similar themes, the appeal is there.
>>84009084
A consequence of me rushing. In defense, they are wearing clothes that hide the knees.However, based on what Val has said about mutations in the yinglet gene pool, one can assume that by the time the 20th century equivalent is reached they may have all kinds of variations.
>>84009320
but if I stop I die.
>>84009851
>but if I stop I die.
I always wondered about your constant output. Is it treatable?
>>84008661
>>84009546
>Which is why I like this comic so much. It uses TF as a premise, not as a constant part of the plot or fetish fuel.
That's actually a big relief to hear; as I've worked out the plot and tone of the story, I've often felt that I wasn't "doing it right" by having only one transformation, and not focusing on the angst of dysphoria of the situation.
I mean, I love those aspects in comics I read like Endtown and El Goonish Shive, but I feel that they've already got that covered, so I wanted to take this story in a different direction that I hadn't really seen in many others.
So hearing that it works, rather than that I've chosen a genre and removed its major appeals, really puts me at ease and makes me more confident about staying the course.
>>84009546
>have you given any thought into taking all the Regional Guide pages and putting them into their own chapter in the archives?
I've considered this a few times, actually, especially since I'm making sure none of them are mandatory reading in order to follow the plot. The only reason I haven't already is that they might play into another feature has yet to be introduced... so I want to see how that will flow before I make that change.
>>84009041
Yes indeed, "wacky anatomy" is one of their defining features. And yeah, the whole "highly diverse genetic variation" thing is in part codeword for "Hey, you wanna draw them [x] way? Go for it, it's all good"
And there's so much damn character in these pics, especially in the facial expressions; each one of these is going into a special folder in my hard drive forever.
>>84009851
I suddenly, inexplicably want fanart of OOP and another quality webcomic together.
Maybe Kass and best girl going head to head like on the Civil War or BvS poster.Or maybe I'm jumping the gun and encouraging comparisons this early will just turn out badly.
So much good new Yingart in here Q.Q so much betters
>>84010073
Good call. I probably wouldn't be reading if the pick-me-up scenes had gone in the opposite direction. Not out of disgust or anything, just disinterest. If there's nothing to balance out the drawbacks of his situation and he's better off just killing himself, why read at all? I mean, yeah, to hope he finds a way to turn back is the obvious answer. But if he'd been disowned by his friends and abused by the Merchant and reduced to sleeping in gutters with his nethers to the wall hope wouldn't feel worth the effort. As is you've counterbalanced the drawbacks of his situation nicely.
So do Yinglets sound like Gungans?
Or do they sound more like a kitfox that can talk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su3ovMsFXMg
I imagine them sounding very annoying.
>>84010673
http://www.valsalia.com/index_files/Extras/askAverageYinglet2.swf
>>84010673
>Someone is willing to fuck jarjar
This happened?
>>84010073
dumb question but who would win iron mike tyson in his prime or his weight in yinglets?
>>84010073
Chalk it up to your clever design of these things!
>>84009976
No, but I get a letter from the Queen every now and then. It's a nice gesture.
>>84010224
Be careful, you might trigger something.
Oh dear... It's happening...
>>84011290
>TH
>TH
>TH
Sup threadI really hope /k/ is not here
>>84012274
We are everywhere, and don't worry. It's obvious a Yinglet would be dumb enough to try and hold a gun by the magazine.
>>84012274
Totally appropriate; give a yinglet a plastic gun and have them run around like crazed chickens on the battlefield, drawing fire from the actual soldiers. Brilliant.
>>84011290
Oh good god, do I see a mashup of yinglets and my favorite sci-fi/fantasy setting? I think I do, and it is amazing.
Goddamn is that even an alarm light on her head? Because the thought of cyborg yinglets equipped with little flashing alarms on their heads that go off when they get worked up is just too much to handle, oh my god.
>>84012338
You give a clever yinglet a rifle with a bayonet, it will wonder why the spear is so heavy
>>84009851
I know a 10's yinglet will probably obviously look like some sort of hipster, but what would a 00's yinglet look like? Suity and contemporary or like a snazzy electronic artist? There were a lot of.. things and fashions.. in the 00s.
>>84009546
Getting rid of those and moving them somewhere else would solve the pacing problems sure, but you could use them as a tool for pacing instead!
Think loading screens: The characters are sleeping-travelling or some other boring thing that requires time, and you want to make clear that it took long? There goes a loading screen, ala Skyrim; see SSSS for a somewhat successful implementation of the concept
>>84011196
yinglets, although with many casualties; they're built for cooperative fighting
a single mike's weight yinglet would lose instead
>>84011196
Mike Tyson because the Yinglets would be too confused by a human who sounds just like them.
>>84012532
>10's Yinglet
Had to. HAD to.
>>84013043
delete this
>>84013043
Saw that coming a mile away, goddamn it.
>>84013043
Ha HAAA
Preach it sister, don't let the syllable police keep you down!
>>84013043
>You are a mean one mister grinch
>>84012274
>tfw no one noticed my horrible mistake
I'm disappointed in all of you, but above that, I'm disappointed in myself
>>84012532
>>84013043
I think a 00s yinglet will be emo. Crawling in my skree.
>>84013043
>that fucking shirt
This page doesn't make a ton of sense.
Why is the patriarch of scavenging giving direct orders to the scouts, instead of (a) the matriarch who we learned earlier (OOP009) sent them out or (b) the actual patriarch of scouts, Beizel or whoever? Where is he?
Why is Narklet speaking at the start of this page instead of Kass, who had just let out a long vowel-laden howl at the end of the last page?
Why is Kass merely annoyed instead of angry/curious/manic/sleepy or any of a dozen other feelings? Why isn't he a more active participant in this scene? Did the last page not happen?
How is it seemingly so easy for Vizlet to bansih/transfer Lopin to Kass's protection over the wishes of Narklet? For such an important event to the plot it happened pretty hastily - it took more panels for Kass to get past the door guards or learn to eat a clam...
The two best aspects of this comic are characterization and setting and I felt both just ate it on this page in order to move the plot forward.
The other time I felt this way was Prologue 13, where Kass starts becoming a Yinglet:
>Isher: Did you know Indrel go completely and utterly insane when they go too long out of their hive? And that Yannit has been bansihed from hers? And you're being held responsible for her actions from here on out? What are we going to do Kass?
>Kass: Well that is certainly a lot to think about. On a related note I would like to talk about this item I just purchased after an amusing spectacle you weren't there to see and that has nothing to do with Yannit or you in any way whatsoever. See, here it is. So far nothing bad has happened but the plot has to go forward CRACK
Great comic its just that it feels rushed when we get to important plot waypoints.
>>84010073
>I've often felt that I wasn't "doing it right"
You've probably already been told this but just wanted to say that another thing you've been doing differently but correctly is your setting.
It's clear that your setting is well thought out and actually makes at least internal sense, it's not just some flimsy backdrop for someone's TF fetish.
>>84014050
The matriarch has more power over their people.
And yeah Narklet's transition is sudden.
>>84013043
>THE
>SHIRT
>>84013043
>Yinglets have both a Matriarchy AND a Patriarchy
hoo boy
>>84014050
>Why is the patriarch of scavenging giving direct orders to the scouts
Because he's trying to hide Lopin. You can assume any of the patriarchs can give the scouts orders, but the patriarch of scouting would have priority
>Why is Narklet speaking at the start of this page instead of Kass
See above. He's trying to remove Lopin from sight immediately. Secondly, Kass did not speak at the end. He spoke in the middle. The guards spoke after that
>Why is Kass merely annoyed instead of angry/curious/manic/sleepy or any of a dozen other feelings? Why isn't he a more active participant in this scene?
Because he's falling asleep on his feet, and he is annoyed because he is being used but can't do much about it.
Alternatively because he can't exactly say anything about his transformation in front of Narklet, considering he already made a backstory.
>How is it seemingly so easy for Vizlet to bansih/transfer Lopin to Kass's protection over the wishes of Narklet?
She made a big dramatic deal over it, while Narklet's was more understated.
It would be different for Narklet to counter her now because a) he is not the scouting patriarch and probably doesn't have the authority and b) he would draw even more attention to this.
>For such an important event to the plot it happened pretty hastily
Because the characters wanted it to
Narklet does not want this to go further because there is information he wants hidden
Vislet does not want this to go further because she also wants this low-key until she can figure out what is actually going on.
They both purposefully tried to cut this short. Vislet was justfor nowthe more effective
>The other time I felt this way was Prologue 13, where Kass starts becoming a Yinglet
Yeah I actually agree with you there but I guess Val wanted the series to move forward with it's major plot point before it dragged out.
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>>84014851
Yeah, I can't say it's unreasonable to feel this last page went a little fast; a lot of that has to do with Vizlet trying to quickly cut in on Narklet's whatever-he's-up-to by being all "Oh I agree, clearly he must be punished, I am totally with you on that and not trying to undermine you" before anyone can react.
And Kobold's right, in that all Patriarchs can give orders, but the Patriarch of a particular group gets priority.
But with that said, I do admit I've sped through a few pages in order to advance the plot, especially the earlier one you mentioned; originally I was going to illustrate Isher and Yannit's visit to Ivenmoth HQ, but it was taking a lot longer than I'd anticipated to get to the first big Plot Hook, which is what actually grabbed the first handful of readers.
This might also have to do with the format I'm drawing these in, in which I forego the standard page size so I can keep adding however many panels the page needs to wrap up well. The upside is the freedom that gives me to go with however many panels I need, but it also is the main reason it's hard to nail down releases to a specific schedule; some comics are 4 panels, some are 10+.
And when it turns out that I might need to split up one page into two or more in order to have something happen smoothly, it can be tempting to just compress it into one.
And admittedly I did feel a bit of pressure (not bad, necessarily) to get this next page up in around a week from the last one!
>>84013043
>fake tail
>>84012532
I guess I am old because I thought you means 1910's yinglet at first and was excited for old timey stuff.
>>84014851
You again...
>>84016431
>>84016564
There we go.
>>84014851
Look I know WHY things are happening plot wise and motivation wise but the characterization on this page is ineffective (which is rare for this comic)
Most striking is how Kass goes from about to blow up on the last page to being merely annoyed on this one.
Vizlet's "big dramatic deal" feels as perfunctionary as her officially welcoming Kass to the enclave, when she was merely repeating a formulaic greeting. You are interpreting it as it should have been, as the scene demanded, but that's not how it was.
>it happened hastily because the characters wanted it to
It happened because the plot engine kicked into high gear here and dragged everything after it. Conversely, it took PAGES to get Kass through the front door and to an imminent patriarch meeting, followed by a page that was basically a smekfest. (all of which was great btw)
This isn't a HUGE DEAL but its just jarring in a comic that has had excellent pacing, dialogue, and characterization so far. We've had pages of Kass crying to his friends and explaining how he feels and the trademaster and martriarch walking and talking and explaining and hinting etc. which is great its what makes this comic worth reading instead of a bunch of weird stuff that happens...
then we get to the foreshadowed Lopin v. Matriarch confrontation and Lopin v. Kass confrontation and poof its over. It's transparently a plot point getting resolved as quickly as possible.
>>84012416
>>84016772Ape Escape 4 on PS4 never.
>>84015215
>Yeah, I can't say it's unreasonable to feel this last page went a little fast; a lot of that has to do with Vizlet trying to quickly cut in on Narklet's whatever-he's-up-to by being all "Oh I agree, clearly he must be punished, I am totally with you on that and not trying to undermine you" before anyone can react.
I think you needed at least a third character such as Poak or Chakki to express a "don't punish him" viewpoint for whatever stupid reason (duh he didn't do anything wrong did he who is he anyways / oh my god his clothes are ruined hasn't he suffered enough) that Vizlet could then override to make that interpretation clear/believable.
Instead it reads very much as "I am trying to undermine you Narklet" to the extent that I wonder what the point was of going through all that dress up with Kass if Vizlet was just going to walk over him later. Also if she has that much power over patriarchs, why does she even care what Narklet thinks if he's just one among five patriarchs?
I'm not expecting answers there obviously that's secret sauce, I'm just saying right now the ingredients don't taste right.
>And when it turns out that I might need to split up one page into two or more in order to have something happen smoothly, it can be tempting to just compress it into one.
>And admittedly I did feel a bit of pressure (not bad, necessarily) to get this next page up in around a week from the last one!
I figured it was something like that. As long as you're self-aware, that's all this criticism is meant to accomplish. You've got a really engrossing comic going, its good enough that any molehills stand out like mountains.
Pic related, its a similar and important exchange I felt was handled really well (along with the preceding and succeeding pages)
>>83994026
I just want Kass to become Human again so he can take Isher to pound town. Cause I definitely would an Isher.
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>>83999750
Did anybody say ARTIFACTS?!
>>83996236
A party member with a huge charisma and very well developed merchant skills? Count me in, I'll make him sell all that useless shit that kobolds have been droped since day 1
>>84000204
>Will you accept this sacrifice?
>>84009041
That's more England in the 60s.
>>84010970
It was a wacky mini-arc, and is a required watch.
>>84013043
>>84017805
I think you mean purrfect
:3
>>84017826
If you knew the source you would get the reference, and the pun.
>>84017850
Pls dont be mean, nonny. This is a thread for friends.
>>84017850
enlighten us.
>>84017884
Last minute of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYkNUyBhS4
video.
Or you can watch all of it, and part 1.
>>84017317
Agreed.
Although there's an acceptable alternative ot the same goal...
>>84018573
I know it's a simple design, but the way the hair is drawn intrigues me. Who did?
>>84018676
>who did this
Isn't it obvious?
>>84020059
Superhero yinglet?
Leaving this base something something exploitable something something I'm retarded something something
Will do requests
>>84020117
Will do
>>84017317
>Cause I definitely would an Isher.
Oh hell yeah, there's something about the amazonian sweetheart that really does it for me.
>>84020117
How's this?
>>84021230
I cannot possibly imagine how awkward a yinglet would look while swinging around
>>84021230
Zwip
>>84021230
I can only imagine shrill squeals and wild flailing as spiderying careens around the city.
>>84021230
>>84020193
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>>84009041
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>>84004685
the sheer amount of fresh art in this thread...
What a great day. Good new art and Britain regained independence.
>>84024273
>Britain regained independence
shit
![1664554-breetai_05[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4PXeQQ2.jpg "1664554-breetai_05[1].jpg")
>>84004825
>Protoculture
>>84021851
Do we have somewhere to post it all?
/end/ dumps all of theirs in the collection booru.
>>84026147
Maybe we should do the same.
outbooru or something.
Bumpu
>>84011290
>Oh dear... It's happening...
DK pls don't toy with my emotions like this. Inventing these waifus we'll never see again is enough.
>>84017001
I appreciate the honesty, and that you focused on specifics that I can make use of, as opposed to just "lol this sux," since I'm focusing on figuring out what needs improvement at this early stage before things get too far along.
Even though I've tightened up some of the mood and character designs, I still feel like this comic is in its early "figuring out what it wants to be" stage, kinda like what Gunnerkrigg Court was as this point: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2 as opposed to how tight the storytelling and character designs are now.
Although with that said, the next page should give a more solid idea of where Vizlet wants to go with what she just did!
>>84017317
Uhhhhhhhhhh if Kass gets re-humanized then you ain't gonna get any of that strange; it seems to be in your best interests that he stays like he is.
>>84017327
I would run right into that mess and start grabbing as many as I can, even though I would 100% get immediately pulped by the gravity traps
>>84021230
I think the best part of this is the hole that obviously got roughly poked open to make room for the shelltooth
>>84021462
Easy! Just apply this equation:
-Is there a yinglet involved?
-If yes, then "super awkward"
>>84021851
Seriously man, I'd hang around here just for these
>>84028533
Well hey, you can just pay someone do draw more for you! There is very clearly an active market for such things.
>>84030017
>Uhhhhhhhhhh if Kass gets re-humanized then you ain't gonna get any of that
wh-why?
>>84030155
Isher's not gonna have eyes for anyone else if he's still in the picture! It is in your best interest to cuck ying-Kass.
>>84030286
Oh, sorry. I was one of the guys agreeing with him, from a purely story perspective. By "any of that" I thought you meant Kass & Isher getting together.
>>84017001
>Also if she has that much power over patriarchs, why does she even care what Narklet thinks if he's just one among five patriarchs?
And the President can Veto acts of congress, why does the President care what congress does? Perhaps if the patriarchs decide together, they can kick the matriarch out of the position? Besides, we haven't seen what Narklet plans on doing about the situation yet.
It's obvious Vizlet is undermining him, and neither one is going to say shit about it in front of the kids(other yinglets). Perhaps discord in front of the underyings leads to chaos and confusion?(at least more than usual for yinglets)
>I'm not expecting answers there obviously that's secret sauce, I'm just saying right now the ingredients don't taste right.
We still don't know the exact specifics of how their society operates, so I'm kinda confused as to how you can say it doesn't feel right when we don't even know what it's supposed to be yet.
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>>84017586
>possible fake tail hair
is she a transtesticle?
>>83999919
CHEEKI BREEKI
Name of the comfy accordion song, and not "On the Champs Désolés" from Blood & Wine?
>>84021462
>>84021660
Huh. That hadn't crossed my mind until now. Then again, there are very few super powers that wouldn't make a yinglet flail his arms and EEEEEE like no tomorrow
>>84030017
In my mind, Peter yinglet is smarter than the average yinglet, but a yinglet nonetheless because he actually made holes for the ears but not for the tooth
Bit too early to die.
>52 posters
Welp, still not as popular as Endtown or Poppy, but it's growing.
>>84032121
Last thread hit bump limit.
We're few, but we're obsessive.
>>84032121
Seriously though, it's way too early in this comic's lifecycle to compare to well-established names like those, so I'm happy it's even being thrown around with those big names at this point.
One step at a time, and all that.
>>84032993
Yeah, I know it doesn't have the archives or fanbases of those two, I just compared it to those two since they are also currently popular webcomics with anthro characters who's artists have been known to frequent /co/. I would have included Prequel as well, but Prequel is dead in the water until Kaz finally gets past Mt. Merchandise and escapes from the land of Kickstarter Obligations.
PS. Underyings.
>>84033318
>who's artists have been known to frequent /co/
Aaron's visits /end/?
>>84033587
He rarely posts, but he checks it out from time to time. He even gave us cheesecake
It's pretty much because /co/ convinced him to that he made a Patreon, and that's just about saved his life, given it's an extra 20k a year he has for medical expenses and whatnot
>>84033587
He visited a few times before deciding to stay behind email, now just his wife visits. Been a while since I've visited the threads though, have things changed since then?
>>84033635
>He even gave us cheesecake
I don't believe you.You should totally prove me wrong wouldn't I look silly haha.
>>84033679
Why not go ask in the ENDTOWN thread? They have links.
>>84033679
I don't think the archives work any more, anon
I'm sure the Endtown guys can link you, I didn't save it.
>>84033753
>>84033769
Eh. The last time didn't go down so good.
Hey Val, are you going to draw lewds of Isher with human Kass?
>>84033815
You really are dense aren't you? ASK FOR A LINK TO THE ENDTOWN BOORU!
For the love of god man, the off-site art archive exists for a reason! Think about it!
>>84033656
Someone posted under his name once or twice recently, but that might just have been KingCheetah dicking around.
I wouldn't be surprised if he still reads the threads, though.
>>84033838
Chill mang. Just my way of saying "thanks but I'm good". I'm not invested enough in seeing it to risk ruffling feathers again.
Besides I just Googled the booru. I'm guessing it's the Allie?
>>84030017
If DK has since drawn it and wants to reserve the right to hold it for ransom I will reciprocate.
Presuming I can afford it. As of this morning my currency's become worthless, apparently.
