Hard to believe this was actually released to theaters. How did this mess ever actually make it out of Disney studios?
>>83991980
I enjoyed it quite a bit.
Desperate for that Shrek money.
>>83991980
They really, really wanted that Shrek money. They wasted most of the early 2000s trying to experiment beyond the Disney princess mold, and once they wasted all their goodwill they lunged for the quick and easy buck to try and pay back their losses.
>>83991997
How
What was enjoyable
>>83991980
It wasn't even that bad. Plus the credits song was baller. Not too keen on Foxy Loxy having her brainwaves scrambled into a different person. Then the pig taking advantage. Dunno, didn't sit right with me, even as a kid.
>>83991980
I can't believe this was supposed to be a family film. The dad was such a dick. Hell, everyone apart from the mc was a dick.
>>83992167
I think that's the biggest problem with this film. Not even the main character is likable, there's no one any normal person would cheer for.
>Not long after that project was shelved, I received a call from Klay Hall, who was directing Chicken Little 2. He was given the mandate to create a story reel for his project in the same time frame that we did for Aristocats 2. I don’t think he or the other board artists at Disney were too excited about the deadline, but I guess Klay figured that it would be a good idea to get someone involved who had actually had experience working at this pace. Overall, the script for Chicken Little 2 was pretty good and I felt great about the sequences in which I was involved. Klay gave me a good deal of freedom to invent and I really appreciated working with him and loved the project.
>In the story, Chicken Little finds himself in the midst of a love triangle. On one side, is his childhood sweetheart (but not too attractive) Abby “ugly-duck” Mallard. On the other side, is the very attractive newcomer, Raffaela, the French sheep. Abby’s at a tremendous disadvantage here, so she goes to great lengths to give herself a makeover. A portion of the makeover sequence is represented on my website, which shows Abby’s grand entrance at school with her new-found look. The script, in this case, had dialog but very little specific action, so most of the visuals and business are original ideas that I was free to invent. Working on this type of scene is great fun for an artist.
SO TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT
It was during that weird Dark Age of Disney movies when they were trying too hard to compete with Dreamworks. Started around Brother Bear and ended somewhere around Bolt.
Pic related came out the year before
>>83992213
Well...would fug Abby.
>>83992347
Out of other options for sequel ideas, they went to making the only semi-likable character in the movie absolutely despicable.
These plots never work.
>>83992347
>Aristocats 2
>>83992061
A lot of it. Funny characters, funny world, touching moments. Just cause you didn't like it doesn't mean that it was god awful.
>>83992347
>this race mixing agenda
Raffaela was going to get CLUCKED
>>83992347
>In the story, Chicken Little finds himself in the midst of a love triangle. On one side, is his childhood sweetheart (but not too attractive) Abby “ugly-duck” Mallard. On the other side, is the very attractive newcomer, Raffaela, the French sheep.
Why would you want to make a movie about this?
>>83992587
>To make Artistocats 2, we tried to distill the essence of the original film. In the first film, the kittens’ nemesis was a misguided butler intent on stealing their fortune. The sequel created a similar dynamic by pitting them against a jewel thief on the open seas aboard a luxury cruise ship.
>The flavor of the film was sort of a mystery/farce/comedy. There was also a young kitty love interest for Marie who became the focal character of the film. By singling out one character for the central story arc we could do a better job at strengthening the elements of the film. Sometimes when you have an ensemble cast, things can really get watered down because you don’t have enough time to spend with each character. We tried to avoid that pitfall.
>The original film takes place in Paris but we didn’t feel they exploited the setting to its fullest potential. We wanted to adopt a European flair by filling our ship with a cast from places like France, Scotland, England, Spain, etc, thus creating a rich environment in both scenery and character in the era of the early 1900s. Our main objective besides the mystery element was to make it completely fun. We worked hard to up the action scenes and create a level of high energy.
>I really think this film was headed in the right direction and with another pass we could have gotten it right but there are other important considerations in making films of any kind. Making sure you have an audience for your movie is paramount. Disney just felt that Aristocats 2 was in jeopardy of falling through the cracks in a competitive marketplace.
>>83992387
WHAT YOU REALLY REALLY WANT
>>83992452
I still have never seen this film.
>>83992980
I have never met anyone who has.
>>83992988
>>83992980
I saw it, was ok. Cows are all assholes.
>>83991980
>Chicken Little will always be smaller than his dad
>It will always be a source of frustration for both of them even if they won't admit it
Too close to home. And it came out just around the time I was realizing it.
>>83992713
That sounds really uninteresting.
>>83991980
CL's dad was probably the worst dad in any kids animated movie. He was such an asshole.
>>83992347
>Peculating the basic anime harem structure is great writing
>It's super duper interesting that these two women are fighting over the least desirable guy imaginable who is totally not an author self-insert, right? Right?
White boys shouldn't be allowed to make things anymore. Your regurgitated middle school fantasies are not that interesting.
>>83992980
A lot of people haven't, most people who do recognize it only remember that "Tell you what I want" scene only because of the commercials. It's not the worst movie ever, but I wouldn't recommend wasting your time watching it
>>83993139
Grace is love, Grace is life...And that song "Little Patch Of Heaven" is good. Still rocking that on my phone at least once a week at work.
>>83992713
Design by committee.pdf
>>83992452
>hypno furry fetish the movie
the hell disney
>>83992167
I never understood why people said this. The dad in the movie always reminded me of my parents.
>>83993522
Because he loaded Chicken with tons of expectations, based on his own dreams, that Chicken couldn't possibly live up to because they were very different people. That's pretty terrible parenting.
>>83993297
>Basic anime harem plot
>White people amirite
>>83991980
it wasnt that bad
fuck it was a masterpiece by what would eventually become the standard of CGI movies. it's just at the time that hadn't been a thing yet
>>83993831
The fact that he thinks he can ape it for a Disney movie, sure.
>>83992980
Don't. It's awful.
>>83991980
It was like Disney's "Over The Hedge"
it was more squash and stretch and the like.
>>83992213
Runt was pretty funny
>>83993297
Did you get that image from the WOY threads? I know you did.I'm that guy
>>83995232
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I've had that picture since 2012.
Im sorry Orel, but your dad is a dick
>>83992988
I saw it and Chicken Little
>tfw you grew up in the dark age of culture
>>83992980
>>83992988
I have, but I can't remember a damn thing about it.
>>83991980
went to see this with my wife on our first movie date.
Shes a big zach braff fan.
It wasn't bad, it had it's moments. But yeah, it does feel like a straight to video release.
I enjoyed the fish.
>>83996005
same
also saw Robots, Flushed Away, Over the Hedge, Shark Tale, Happy Feet, and all the other early mid 2000s animated films that no one remembers.
>>83996159
fuck, same. I really feel sorry for my parents. they had to go through a lot of shit
>>83996005
>>83996159
I remember that as a kid I'd watch just about every major release animated movie. Anyone remember the one where the kid goes on an adventure with a talking baseball and bat that belonged to Babe Ruth?
>>83996159
Happy Feet was actually alright though.
>>83996159
>TFW you think Robots and Shark Tale are legitimately fun movies
Jack Black as a gay shark is the greatest thing I never knew I wanted. And "art deco mechanicalpunk" is a great aesthetic. Shame about them murdering James Brown.
>>83996271
until it gets REAL weird when they start studying him as a freak.
>>83992347
>>83992713
Holy hell, these are awful.
>>83996225
Just a baseball, and I think it was called Everyone's Hero
>>83997476
nah there was a baseball too, named Screwie
>>83995213
Runt, for all intents and purposes, brainwashed a woman so he could get a girlfriend.
>>83997476
nah, that bat talked too.
>>83997476
i remember that movie. the bat talked too.
Here's the animatic for Chicken Little 2. The original site is down and it's the last version with voiced lines. I might save a copy in the event that it's lost foreve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl7mLgwXZ8
>>83997553
>>83997564
Oh wow, I forgot. Wasn't she voiced by Whoopi Goldberg?
>>83996159
The villain in Robots was literally MCU Ultron.
>>83991980
I liked it and fuck you, you joyless piece of garbage
>>83992167
>I can't believe this was supposed to be a family film. The dad was such a dick.
> this was problematic
> people weren't nice
> I'm entitled to impose real world values on talking animals in a cartoon
>>83991980
Idk why it was"bad" i liked it a lot
>>83997553
>Seth Rogen's Hot Dog Party
>>83993297
>White boys
Please keep lecturing us on your enlightened perspective.
>>83997583
>>83997583
You should Anon.
Tripe or not, it shouldn't be lost to time.
>>83997874
He was too shitty man, like ilogically assholish towards his son, no shitty parent ever acts like that
>>83991980
It was back during the dying years of 2D. Disney had been dealing with failure after failure, and they'd been sitting about and grinding their teeth while Dreamworks was fucking them up with CGI hit after CGI hit. This was the first foray into the ring since Dinosaur, and they wanted to hit the demographic that made Shark Tale a hit, they just said "For once, we want to have a hit that makes over 300 million."
They succeeded, and no 2D film since the turn of the century until now(Save the Simpsons Movie), can say the same.
This was the first dagger into the back of 2D. It wasn't big, it wasn't fatal, but it was the first big strike.
>>83997902
kek
I wonder if there's any sexualized art of the bat?
>>83997958
>no shitty parent ever acts like that
>I'm an expert on people and how they behave
>did I mention talking animals in cartoons need to pass my litmus test for believability
>>83996159
Robots has a really comfy OST tho.
Finally saw Chicken Little last year to see what the big deal was. It was pretty bad, as expected, but some of the comedy bits were okay and at times I liked the friendship dynamic between the main characters; wouldn't say watching it was awful or even boring though I wouldn't do so again anytime soon.
Dinosaur is pretty bad too when it comes to Disney movies. I wanna say it was "better" than Chicken Little for not doing anything really obviously horrible or dumb, but it's also so derivative and boring and safe that it may actually be worse.
>>83996159
Flushed Away is pretty top tier.
Unless I think that because I watched it so many times on road trips as a kid.
https://youtu.be/lP1-57JbGYo?t=7m16s Any thoughts about the original concept for the movie? Do you think The adventures of a qt chicken girl learning to face her fears at summer camp would have been more watchable?
>>83992452
Bolt and Brother Bear were alright at least.
ONE LITTLE SLIP
>>83992713
>>The original film takes place in Paris but we didn’t feel they exploited the setting to its fullest potential. We wanted to adopt a European flair by filling our ship with a cast from places like France, Scotland, England, Spain, etc, thus creating a rich environment in both scenery and character in the era of the early 1900s. Our main objective besides the mystery element was to make it completely fun. We worked hard to up the action scenes and create a level of high energy.
Man,I would have loved to see how they portray all these different countries.
Hopefully just as good as the siamese cats.
As a kid I liked it
>>83998178
>yfw you realize this song is buck cluck's perspective about the night chicken little was conceived
>>83996159
Robots was actually pretty awesome.
>>83996271
Happy Feet was shit that didn't go anywhere and then all of a sudden shoved some religious/enviromental bullshit in.
>>83997958
Be embarassed by his son?
>>83997958
>>83992167
How bad was the dad? I never saw the film
>>83996159
>Over the Hedge
Ok, for whatever reason I REALLY liked the setting of that movie. I'm a sucker for those fake-but-really-exists suburban developments turn warzone type movies.
>>83993297
>implying asian and black people don't like harems
such a sheltered child.
>>83992452
All I remember about this is that it was the first and only movie where I had to sit at the bottom of the theater, and I fucking hated it.
I don't understand how people choose to sit there.
>>83998263
"Son, you are the biggest disappointment in my life."
I don't remember much about it other then the first half was basically that episode of the Simpsons where Springfield fucking destroys Bart mentally for loosing at baseball, then the other half was about aliens or some shit. There was also lots of pop culture references cause writing actual funny jokes is hard.Fish best character.
>>83992452
I liked Bolt and Brother Bear though.
>>83992028
90% of the reason I haven't seen Bolt and hadn't seen Tangled for the longest time was FEAR that this was still the case.
>>83998147
I think a blank screen for the same period of time would have been more watchable.
>>83997874
>>83998022
He's not wrong though
Don't be a smarmy cunt
>>83993297
Go back to tumblr
>>83991980
The strangest thing was that he was a summon on kingdom hearts
>>83992096
That felt pretty off to me too, especially because of >>83997524
A liiiittle creepy, especially because it might be permanent and nobody seems to object to her getting brain-screwed into becoming some fat fuck's girlfriend. Shit, doesn't she have parents?
>>83997553
>talking bats
>>83997874
>Things should be good
>NO THEY SHOULDN'T YOU SJW KEK
I heard a rumor once that Chicken Little was a rush job because Disney had to buy time because Cars' release dates was pushed.
>>83991980
I saw this thread in the catalog and briefly thought "Chicken Little wasn't Disney you retard" before remembering he was in Kingdom Hearts 2
>>83992167
>Nooooooo we aren't as bad as Mr. Enter and tumblr
>>83998741
They have shit taste
>>83992452
I don't remember then being bad
But I remember literally nothing about it at all other then I think there was a quarry at some point
>>83993229
Gives pa Kent a run for his money
>>83993340
Heh
>>83996159
I liked robots
>>83991980
Do people not remember when all CG Disney animated studios movies were terrible? It's kind of a new thing that they are actually good
>>83999958
> IT WAS RAAAAAAAPE
go outside and play with the other undergraduates
>>83998178
SOMEBODY
>>83991980
Early 3D was an experimental time.
>>83997980
Didn't the new SpongeBob Movie reach over $300 million (it's mostly 2D despite the trailers implying it's going to mostly be a CGI-Live Action mix).
>>83992167
Fucking this. It always rustled my jimmies the line
>I'm sorry, son. I don't believe you anymore.
Or something like that because HE NEVER BELIEVED IN HIS FUCKING SON. He didn't even bother to hear him at all, not even when his son made a homerun or whatever.
Christ, fuck him and his stupid baseball ace shit.
Still had comedic value though, with the hatemailbox and all.
What is the best Disney movie released in the last decade?
>>84004897
>check Wikipedia for the movies
>Chicken Little
>Home on the Range
>Brother Bear
>Bolt
>Meet the Robinsons
what the fuck
jesus the last decade was absolute garbage
>>83998912
Oh God, the aliens.
Let me tell you about the aliens.
The director is MArk Dindal, right? Cats Don't Dance and Emperor's New Groove. So it should be clear that he's a competent director.
He storyboards out the whole film with his crew. It's a nice, neat little slice of life story about a chicken who learns to stop worrying about every little thing and accept life as it comes.Nothing too flashy, but a serviceable story with genuine emotion.
He goes on vacation for a week.
He comes back to find out executives have rewritten the entire script and are ordering him to make it about aliens.
That story right there encapsulates everything wrong with Disney in the late 90's earl 00's. Chicken Little was the culmination of all the bullshit building up in Disney at the time.
>>83991980
I'm not seeing what's offensively bad about it. Disney has done much worse and got applauded for it.
>>83992167
Sounds like a run-of-the-mill Disney movie to me.
Have you watched Pinocchio? Pocahontas? Lion King?
>>84004897
I don't remember Lilo & Stitch for shit.
So Damage-It Dan I guess.
>>84004969
>last decade
>Wreck-it Ralph
should had said the 2000s, my bad
>>84004977
Ah yeah I thought you meant in the last 10 years.
>>84004913
Hey man, Meet the Robinsons was pure kino
>>84004987Lilo and Stitch was 14 years ago anon
>>84004945
For your information I've watched nearly of all the films by WDAS and let me tell you, this is nothing like those. Haven't watched those in a while so my memory of them is a bit bad so forgive me.
>Dad goes out to find son in the middle of the night nonstop and still didn't give up even after getting swallowed up by a whale
>I can't remember this one much but wasn't the dad really protective over his daughter and even sacrificed his life for the dude?
>I don't think I need to explain why Mufasa is a great father
The dad here didn't even try to support his son and never took his side until the end and that's when the son had proof or some shit like that. It's just horrible.
>>84005023
Yeah, the dad in Pocahontas was protective of his daughter and his people. It's what makes his xenophobia more acceptable compared to Ratcliffe's. And he was the first to set aside his fear and hate to attempt peace.
>>84005023
I'm not speaking specifically of dads, just that the setting is all-around filled with assholes in a lot of Disney movies.
It was Smith who sacrificed to save Pocahontas' dad (who was trying to kill him) not the other way around. Powhatan was a dick.
I wouldn't exactly say Mufasa was a great dad, just had a bunch of quotable inspirational dialogue.
>It's just horrible.
You have a very low treshold for horrible.
>>84005085
Ahh well my bad. But the thing is that you know both of them actually cared deeply for their kid and didn't try to avoid them at all costs like they did with Chicken Little. Well a lot of people agree with me on this but okay. I just think those films balanced it out well while this one didn't.
>>83992347
So is there any pron of the lamb.
>>83992347
So bellwether got rejected by some filthy avian scum and that's why she turned evl?
>>84004897
Lilo & Stitch was their only true success last decade.
>>84005000
Feeling suicidal about my impending death was not what I expected to feel this morning.
>>83992988
I've seen every Disney canon animated movie that's come out in my lifetime in the theater.
Probably the worst animated movie I saw was Space Chimps
![Chicken Little 2- The Ugly Duckling Story Storyboard.mp4_snapshot_01.32_[2016.06.23_09.54.40].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8fjtBx0.jpg "Chicken Little 2- The Ugly Duckling Story Storyboard.mp4_snapshot_01.32_[2016.06.23_09.54.40].jpg")
>>84005179
No. And in the animatic >>83997583 she's actually Italian instead of French. Maybe they changed it? And based on that animatic, I can't help but think they were going to do some sort of wolf-in-sheep's-clothing thing.
>>84004977
>2000's disney
Treasure Planet was a fucking great film.
>>84005353
Atlantis (was it made in the 2000's?) would've been a lot better if they made it a trilogy as planned
>>83992213
This is real life to me actually, everyone is a dick to me and In turn so I am a dick, I have always assumed that when you are different AND small, people just fucking hate you.
>>84005302
She sounds Swedish. Anywho, what was on her back?
>>84005934
Yeah I really liked atlantis too.
>>83997914
Well, Act one: poor 7 foot tall, musclebound, noble back guy enters the room
Act to: every fair skinned ass "male" and female, offer themselves to the proud negro's gargantuan cock
>>83992713
Wow. A random jewel thief, uninterested in cats save some deux ex machina, is similar to a legal heir to whom they are a legit obstacle how, exactly?
And wow, let's do that world-tour travel-from-country-to-country thing, because every middle manager of bad kiddie animation wants to make that "Chipmunk Adventure" lightning strike again. Warner wanted it so badly that they made it TWICE, as Tweety's Hi-Flying Adventure AND Looney Tunes Back in Action. And all THREE major attempts to revive Jay Ward characters forced it on them (in essence, the Boris and Natasha live-action movie, the Rocky and Bullwinkle live-action/animated movie, and the Peabody and Sherman movie all did it!).
The amazing thing is that none of these movies exactly set the world on fire, so there is no track record of this plot idea leading to easy money, but every studio wants to do it again and again anyway.
>>83996159
You fucking shitting on robots kid?
>>83992660
I kind of wish this was made because it would have been so fucking hilarious that Disney shit themselves twice with the same terrible movie
>>83996159
holy shit I forgot about flushed away and robots.
>>83997523
God, that design. Both the ball and the boy look like embarrassed Borscht belt comedians.
Girl was good but as I recall, the pic is set in the 1930s, the black characters lead a forced-segregated life, and while the movie has the white boy travel with them for awhile, it never even tries to object to that status quo. The movie looks clumsily racist even if you're not PC.
>>83993297
What the fuck? Basically everyone in this thread is agreeing it's a fucking stupid idea
>>84004924
>It's a nice, neat little slice of life story about a chicken who learns to stop worrying about every little thing and accept life as it comes
There's a problem, though: who is calling out for this story to be made, especially with the characters looking the way they look? Who really considers the traditional Chicken Little a top-tier fairy tale, anyway? Basically, Dindal was making the best of a bad concept pushed on him: "Retell the uneventful story of an unnecessarily panicky bird on a farm." It sounds like he was doing it cleverly, but in a manner that didn't make it much more than a slice of life sitcom.
If I were an executive tasked with making a Chicken Little movie succeed, I would probably think: "What is the one iconic concept associated with this story? The idea of the sky falling, though it never does. ...How can we make it REALLY fall?"
That way clearly led to the aliens, though it didn't have to—that was the result of unimaginative execs. But by not going further with the falling-sky concept, Dindal was dooming himself to executive meddling.
>>84004997
>Meet the Robinsons was pure kino
Meet the Robinsons had a very good basic idea, and Wilbur Robinson and Lewis are both great characters. But that mess of a storyline.
>>84006532
Characters: The movie
>>83993320
>not the numa numa commercials
i dont recall the the "tell you what i want" one
>>83996159
>Not remembering robots
>Not remembering Over The Hedge
>Not remembering Shark Tale
>Not remembering Happy feet
Get out here, pleb.
>>84006785
With the exception of Happy Feet (maybe) nobody really remembers those movies anymore than they remember most of the Disney movies released in the 2000s that isn't Lilo and Stitch.
>>83991980
I remember enjoyed it back then but now i agree. It is shit.
>>83992347
What a terrible idea for a sequel. Did it got cancelled?
>>83999006
With Bolt, it is. Though it's not as bad as Chicken Little.
>>83992452
This is the only Disney movie I have ever walked out of the theater on.
Hell, it might be the only movie I've walked out on period.
>>83996159
>over the hedge
>no one remembers
Cartoon Network reruns that movie once and a while, and I have a DVD and a copy of a GAME based off that movie.
>>84008866
triple dubs confirm truth
>>83991980
>How did this mess ever actually make it out of Disney studios?
The same reason Mars needs Moms, Space Chimps, The Nutjob, Doogal, Planet 51, Escape from Planet Earth and other less than mediocre animated CGI films were green-lit. There are people in the business who actually think this shit will make a profit from toys and merchandising when truthfully it's just a big waste of time and money. Nobody gives a shit about these films (except maybe a very small autistic minority) and the creators themselves.
>>84008973
Space Chimps wasgood
>>84004897
Tangled
>>84004913
>Not liking Meet the Robinsons
ISHYGDDT
>>84004913
Brother Bear, Bolt and Meet the Robinsons were okay, but you're right about everything else. What the hell was going through these people's heads? Did they seriously think people would actually enjoy this crap?
>>84009138
I love The Robinsons
>>84008973
>Doogal
Doogal was after that sweet spot of Magic Roubdabout nostalgia. And then it was re-dubbed for Americans because they don't have any Magic Roundabout nostalgia.
>>84001734Joke's on you, I'm super into this stuff and I still thought it was shit
>>83996159
A lot of people remember Shark Tale but forgot the name.
>>84009431
I have no idea what the plot of that film was. Like I remember certain elements of the film but I don't remember how they were fit into a coherent narrative together. Probably not very well.
>>84009539
I still don't get why people made Will Smith fish rich and famous all because he claimed to have killed a shark. He literally had no proof and people just took his the two hippies word for it yet no one listened to him before? I think I just got dumber for even thinking about that crap. ButAT THE CAR WASH, YEAH!
>>84004897
Treasure Planet
>>84005000
>>83992347
Remember that stupid-as-fuck relationship between Chicken Little and Abby we hamfisted into the final moments of the first movie? Well fuck it, now we're making a whole damn feature film out of it!
>>83993297
Black people are the one that like harem anime buddy
>>84005302
Ewe Lala?
