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Time for Rucka
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based cho variant
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i hope wonder woman castrates someone
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>panel 4
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I wonder if Steve will be relevant in this series
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>>83975738
>he does it for free
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>>83975768
Aww!

Dude. Steve. Just call her. Seriously.
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>>83975692
>Etta Candy is fat and black
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>>83975831
Always been fat, been black since the Nu52.
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The end for this month. Anyone sticking around? Wondy Rebirth storytime had some mixed reactions
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>>83975868
This feels incredibly decompressed. Basically half the issue was just Diana issuing warnings.
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>>83975831
>>83975861
Did she ever appear in Wonder Woman? My memory of the second half of Chiangzerello is wonky.

I'm guessing she was more of a Justice League of America character or something.
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>>83975861
Never knew that when did she appear? ARGUS? Because I never picked that up
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>>83975768
>Photo is of Nicola's art.
Nice.
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>>83975893
>>83975892
Etta was in Johns' Justice League
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>>83975868
Meh, don't think so.
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>>83975892
She was never in WW so I'm guessing whatever non WW book Steve was in.
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>>83975868
I'm mildly interested. I think I'll stick with it.
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>>83975868
Themyscira's disappeared again? This is what, the fourth time now?

This was okay, but the decompression hurts it a bit. Not really sure I dig the art. Considering the setting, it fits, but I wonder if maybe it's a little too gritty.
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>>83975868
im not an asshhurt azzlicker so yeah
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Laim's deviantart for those that care.
http://liamsharp.deviantart.com/gallery/
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>>83975933
>Considering the setting, it fits, but I wonder if maybe it's a little too gritty.
Oh fuck off!
You had your 35 issues of Cliff & friends's bare minimum art, now it's our turn.
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>>83975868
Probably gonna sit this series out and wait for more issues to accumulate. Maybe Scott's Year One issues will be more compressed/better?

almost wish Bennett was on this, tbqh -- mostly because she'd have more to prove and, perhaps like Tynion on Detective Comics, she might rise to the challenge
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>>83975768
>6'2" Diana

HNNNGGGGG
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>>83975868
I'm interested, so I'll deal
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>>83975868
What happened in WW Rebirth? I entirely missed that.
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>>83976024
>Someone is fucking with y memories the issues

Nothing, you missed nothing at all.
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>>83975868
pretty boring so far. ill see what cheetah does next issue. then im out.
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>>83975868
Wondy didn't leave a strong impression. I'm more interesting in Steve and Etta to be honest.
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>>83975985
youre such a pleb goddamn.
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IMO
> JHW3 > Reis > Fabok > Sharp > Capullo > Gleason > Nicola Scott > Doug Mahnke > Tony Daniel > Jim Lee > David Finch >>>>> Janin
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>>83976024
http://viewcomic.com/wonder-woman-rebirth-001-2016/
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>>83975868

Prettiest lookomh comic on the shelf this week, that's for sure.

The plot is moving way too slow, and I usually dig that.
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Those Hyena men... are they keeping the first born's story? Im still on the fence, I'll prolly trade wait, Cheetah's new design is kinda ehh.
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>>83975868

>Cheetah finally gets tearmarks.

FINA-FUCKING-ALLY!

Kinda weird Etta is now Waller
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God Yes!
I have been begging for a Wonder Woman run with this level of detail and grit to it for ages.
This is right, this fits, this is beautiful.
This is to Wonder Woman what Ribic, Coipel & Djurdjevic are to Thor.
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>>83975868
Art's good but man art will never be Chiang tier ever. Why live.
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>>83975985
How to spot capeshitters
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>>83975768
CUTE
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https://youtu.be/e5HkuhSEnPQ?t=9
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>>83975682
>1 issue in
>Already getting BLACKED
baka desu imo kmt
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>>83976321
Did you even read this issue, my nigga?
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He really needs to work on his faces. Pages like >>83975728 are great but >>83975756 looks bad.
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>>83975768
Wait, how long has it been since N52 Superman died in this part of the continuity? Steve and Diana interacted when she got back with N52 Supes.
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>>83976332
yaaaa
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>>83975626
yay more female rucka protagonist showing us how men are shit but women can be just as good as men
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>>83975692
So is she also the cousin to someone with the same name that's a different race?
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>>83975692
why did they change amanda wallers name?
>>83975800
why are the first borns children helping cheetah


joking aside, i like the art, but i completely question how terrible this is going to turn
theres currently two stories going on in this title, and the "next issue" has nothing to do with them. i know they had to condense both the wondy titles to one name for reasons, but i just feel like this is already a three legged horse. Doesn't matter how fast it gets going, its still going to lose the race
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>>83975649
>DKARANGO REGION, BWUNDA
>BANAKANE RAIN FOREST
Is this a real place or did he just make up the most African sounding thing he could come up with
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>>83975868
Much better than the Finches that's for sure.
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>>83976486
Fake DCU place.
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>>83975692
Oh I thought this was Waller at first.
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>>83975692
Oh hey, they're adapting Morrison's character from Earth One. Cool.
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>>83976369
Stupid Tripposter.
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>>83976638
what? Which character?
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>>83976364
A lot of that is gone because of Blue Balls to him its probably been more than ten years
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I want Chiang back /co/.
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>>83975868
I'l stick around but I wasn't quite impressed with this. I'm just hoping they don't get rid of Chiang's designs for the Gods
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>>83975995
>Tynion rose to the challenge
Anon no.
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As bad as his first run. I really don't understand the love for Rucka's WW other than Hiketeia.
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>>83976103
>streaming comics
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>>83976778
But 935 is actually good, though.
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>>83975985
t. pleb
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>>83976779
Hiketeia sucked though.
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>>83975839
ANOTHER neck goes snap
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>>83976646
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>>83975868
NOW KISS
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>>83975768
>tsundere steve
too cute
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Wonder Woman 001 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Thoth)
http://www7.zippyshare.com/v/E93OHkmM/file.html
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Mother of decompression.
And people wonder why single issue market is doing so bad.
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>>83975985
t. house style drone
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>>83975768
>I have a little picture
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What's the consensus on this run so far?
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>>83975868
I'm quite liking it.
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>>83977508
It just started. Not much to judge. A bit too decompressed so far. Azzfags are in fear of their run being retconned.
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>>83976638
baka
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>>83975728
She looks hot as hell in this
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its gonna be interesting when they bring in dr psyco, and or silver swan.
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Next month: Nicola Scott
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>>83978389
Why no June 29th releases?
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>>83978402
Fifth week + not overfatiguing the artists
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>>83978402
annuals week
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>>83978453
Are the annuals part of Rebirth?
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>>83976638
>Morrison's character
Fuck you
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i liked it
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>>83978478
no, new 52 leftovers like grayson
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>>83975692
You mean this isn't Waller?
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>>83975813
>>83975827
Why is Steve fighting warlords? He's in charge of dealing with meta-human threats.
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It's not a bad issue, but it's a problem when your side characters are more interesting than your main one.
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>>83975636
Nice
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>>83975692
>Etta is still black but at least they made her fat again

decent compromise I suppose
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>>83975868
The Etta and Steve parts seemed to move faster than the WW parts so I think it might be a stylistic decompression almost. But even considering that I don't know if you really need so many pages for Cheetah to dick around with her before she actually asks for help. I guess we'll see how it goes.
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>>83979433
No chubby white qt
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>>83979037
They're obviously going to dovetail in an issue or two.

>>83979014
Maybe Rucka will be the one to remember that Winick's Batwing existed and showed that Africa had it's own superheroes, supervillains, and metahuman political players.
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>>83975728
cool page
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>>83975850
a lot of the art in this comic is very static but this page is very nice
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I'm still hoping that the ultimate lesson is that as a creature of myth, Diana's past is subjective and will just sometimes change without there being a right or wrong.

Like how Aphrodite is sometimes the daughter of Zeus and Dione or just rising from the sea foam of Uranus's junk
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>>83979916
I'm thinking that will probably be it too with maybe a twinge of someone manipulating things in this instance to make the story go in a certain way.
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>>83975626
I missed the entirety of the Finches' run, can i just jump into this without having read that?
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>>83979932
The villain turns out to be Greg Rucka in a Wonder Woman mask.
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>>83979959
yeah but not much has happened yet
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>>83979959
Yes, you'll miss absolutely nothing by missing the Finches, I'd probably recommend that you don't read them
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>>83975673
Her body is paper thin on the first panel. Looks like she's been corset waist training.
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>>83979959
The only important thing to come out it was Donna Troy being introduced, but DC's already given her two new origins since then.
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>>83980094
>but DC's already given her two new origins since then.

as is tradition
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>>83980101
If I ever get a chance to write Donna Troy not only am I going to give her a new origin, I'm going to make the story I write depend on at least two other origins being canon to work.
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>>83975868
Plot's a bit slow, but damn if the art isn't gorgeous.
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>>83980094
>>83980101
>>83980168
Is Donna's origin really that much of a clusterfuck or is this just a meme because of how often it gets rewritten thanks to retcons? Cause I looked into it and it didn't seem that hard to get outside being bloated. Is it because I haven't read many Donna stories?

>Clone of Diana
>Gets mistaken for the real deal or whatever, trapped in some cycle of reincarnation
>Current incarnation was some baby trapped in a house fire
>Saved by the Titans
>Spends part of her life with them before being handed off to the Amazons
>Donna Troy's life plays out from here
That's how I understand it if you're not getting anal about each individual retcon
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>>83975738
>Her hair completely changing from panel to panel depending on the reference photos used
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>>83975868
>Barbara Ann
Wasn't New 52 Cheetah Priscilla Rich going by multiple names?
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>>83980302
it's not really complicated but it is continuously retconned more than most
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>>83980302
Well there's the current version who is stone Hippolyta melted down and turned into magic clay, molded into an Amazon Queen to replace Diana

And that's already been retconned since she somehow has a past with the Teen Titans that they and she can remember
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So who's neck is she going to break next

Probably a guy wearing a Meninist t-shirt
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>>83980585
Yeah which probably means the origin you mentioned didn't happen and what we used to know was accurate. It doesn't seem like throwing everything out the window and more >>83980522
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>>83980302
Much like Hawkman's origin it's pretty overstated. Unlike Hawkman origin, Donna origins features mutual incompatibility and don't cover two different people sharing a name.

First origin is that she was a child rescued by Diana and raised on Themyscira given powers by the Purple Ray, second origin is a child rescued by the Titans and given powers, third origin was the magical clone origin, fourth origin is the Finch origin, fifth is the Titans Hunt origin - which isn't an origin as much as it is the removal of the Finch origin with nothing to replace it.
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>>83980491
Well this arc is all about how everything that preceded it was lies.
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>>83980646
>>83980658
But we literally just saw the Finch origin happen on panel

Donna fought Diana and when she was injured she didn't even bleed, she turned back into clay
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>>83980491
>>83980679
Nu52 Cheetah was Barbara Minerva who was a criminal who used the other Cheetah identities as cover.
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>>83980679
not everything, just the parts they want to retcon
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>>83980746
As much as the run itself was bad, Donna's origin was concise, connected, and allowed you to build the character. I don't know why the massive hardon for messing around with a b-tier TT member who hasn't been important since the late 80s.
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>>83980658
Hawkman is something I can understand because unlike Donna, the rewrites to his (their?) origin prevents stories from happening. Donna's seem to meld together by the end.

>>83980746
And? Titans Hunt was all about false memories. What's to say it didn't happen?
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>>83979736
He won't be.
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>>83975709

I'll be honest. That Trevor makes Bruces and Ollie look like fucking bitches. Batfags and shippers be dammed.
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>>83980959
Steve has always been best boy
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>>83980094
>>83980101
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>>83975868
I don't think it's all that good so far desu.
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Story is dragging way too much
It was nice to see Steve though and the art on his pages is good

7/10
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>>83975768
Awwww
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>>83975692
I thought that was Amanda Waller at first
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>>83975839
I'm glad they remembered to make her smile in combat
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>>83975933
I'm pretty sure it's right where its always been she's just forgoten where that is
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>>83981490
That's stupid
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>>83975756
Who else hating this Cumberbatch looking bitch?
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I don't know how to feel about Liam Sharp's artwork.

I can appreciate how detailed it is on a certain level, but the layouts aren't very exciting to look at and it's got that inescapable "evolved 90s" quality to it. Like Stephen Platt and Juan Jose Ryp traveled back in time to 1967 and banged Sharp's mom.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Nicola can do with next issue; I'm hoping there's a brighter and more joyful tone in the artwork.
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>>83981603
The hatching makes his art look nicer than it actually is

Nicola's art has been kinda weak lately. And it only really works with proper colorization. When they changed the colorist in Earth 2 her art looked bland as fuck.
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>>83975709
Now THAT is a man worthy of Diana.
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>>83981665
Do we know the colorist on her issues yet?
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>>83981317
More like 6/10
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>>83975709
Why do they always give characters beards only to take them away
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>>83975692

I really thought this was the wall at first
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>>83975868
Totally. Liked the Rebirth issue and really liked this.
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>>83980959
Good, Steve is based.

>good A.R.G.U.S. book when
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>>83975636

dem thighs
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>>83982135
Is he even ARGUS anymore?
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>>83975831
Yeah, I'm loving her new design.

>>83975861
She was black but ger first appearance she was skinny

>>83975868
Is she gonna work in a taco shack now? This plot sounds like messeber-loeb's plot with circe
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>>83975636
Cho is the best.
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>>83981603
But evolved 90s is 90s with the mistakes fized.
Ryp is incredible what the fuck if your problem?
And Sharp is a MILLION times better then Lee, Booth, Todd, Liefeld.
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>>83975768
>No, Davy... I won't search her name on rule34
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>>83982342
Last I checked, he was still the head of A.R.G.U.S.
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>>83980094
Oh Donna, will you ever be handled by someone who cares?
She should just have been Diana's sister like in the 70's show
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>>83982717
But that was before Rebirth
Who knows now? Apparently he was a sailor when he ended up on the Island now. Unless that was just figure of speech.
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>>83982797
Rebirth shouldn't have changed that. He was head of A.R.G.U.S. when Supes dies, since that's still canon, his position probably is too.
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>>83975709
Gears of war Steve.
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As a non fanatic Wondy fan, is there something I'm missing?
Why would cheetah have the faintest clue how to get to Themiscyra if Diana can't? Am I missing something on cheetah's powers?
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>>83982342
Is a.r.g.u.s even a thing anymore the black room got breached not a whole lot of point to there existence now
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>>83983289
Presumably Wondy is trying to get Cheetah to use her position of avatar to a god in some capacity, but it really doesn't make any sense. Barbara doesn't know where Themyscira is; I don't think she's ever been to Themyscira before either.
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>>83983289
Cheetahs origins change all the time I'm guessing the current story has her able to get there somehow
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>>83983371
It is
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>>83983289
Isn't nu52 Cheetah powered by the goddess Artemis?
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>>83983289
>>83983379
New 52 Cheetah is obsessed with the Amazons, and she is an archaeologist so maybe she knows how to find them

However, she didn't even know the position of the Island before, so...
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>>83983411
No, that was just what the crazy ladies believed
She's powered by that knife
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>>83983413
Yeah but she's working with wondy this time. With there skills combined they might be able to find it
It's a buddy detective plot
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>>83983413
Nu52 Cheetah was also completely wrong about the Amazons because she was raised in a luddite, Amazon worshipping cult whose entire viewpoint of the Amazons was designed to support their ideology.
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Wasn't Cheetah taking hits from a few fist of cain thugs last week in suicide squad?
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>>83983478
Different Cheetah.
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>>83983289
That's kind of the problem with the WW scenes in this issue. Too damn slow. We should have at least gotten that explanation on page already.
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>>83983504
Are there canonically two cheetahs, or just writers use her as they want?
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>>83975709
Is he still being cucked by Superman even thought he is "dead"?
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The only problem i have with this is the pacing really, its a good book and the characterization is on point but it feels so damn slow
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>>83983556
If she's not in a WW book then Cheetah is usually presented as being less effective than your average henchman.
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>>83983573
He never got cucked by Superman, he broke up with WW and she used Superman as a rebound fuck
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>>83983573
Superman and Wonder Woman broke up well before Rebirth, anon.
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>>83983573
>that's not even what that word means
Jesus find anew word because dating someone after breaking up isn't cucking
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>>83983508
The Steve/Etta pages are also slow. They don't tell anything more than "They are heading to the same place, Steve still loves Diana".

They just have a shitload of unnecessary dialogue.
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Deborah Domaine was a ccutie.
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>>83983587
Honestly that 3 warnings shit could have been done in 4 panels
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>>83983702
what's even the point of the three warnings? It's ridiculously self righteous.
>I'm going to barge into your territory and demand you show me your leader and tell me what I want, or I'll beat you up if you don't
>but I already told you I'll beat you up if you don't, so it's fine, I'm still a hero, it's your fault for not doing as I wanted

I have no problem with pissed of heroes pushing the limit or heroes in need pushing the limit, but for crying out loud, they should be aware of what they're doing. Especially a truth-seeking one like Wondy. This feels like a bizarre attempt from the writer/editor to not put her in the wrong in the slightest even though she is and the whole thing just makes her incredibly self-righteous.
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This book feels like Rucka asked if he could get this guy to not make all his pages these spread out clusterfucks with tons of empty space, got a no, and decided to write around it as best as he could.

That's obviously not what happened, but that's what it feels like.
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OOGA BOOGA WHERE DA WONDA WEYMN AT
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>>83984106
Agreed
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>>83984106
Feels more decompressed than digital titles that cut pages in half to have 20 pages each chapter

I knew this would happen with the "bi-monthly" thing, at least for some books
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>>83975626
Great more feminazi shit ruining comics.
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>>83975995
Frankly, this being WW's big 75th and all, why doesn't she have more than one ongoing to celebrate?
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>>83984106
I got a feeling Year One will be the better and memorable part of this story.
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>>83985378
Here's your (you), got anymore?
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>>83975673
Is that a vampire Brachiasaur skull?
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>>83985472
Try to deny it all you want. They are ruining comics for nothing more than their political agenda.
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>>83985452
Maybe Rucka didn't want to tell a present day story at all, just have his own version for the origin
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>>83985496
Most likely, based on interviews, he's trying his best to be excited about the year 10 story, but his heart is in the origin since he even got nicola scott to draw it and take a break from their Image book.
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>>83975800
Why are they hyena-men just like First Born's army?

This combined with the animal patrons almost feels like a rip off and not an homage or continuation
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>>83985486
What does this comic have to do with feminazis outside staring a woman that had a comic for 75 years now?
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>>83976764
>I'm just hoping they don't get rid of Chiang's designs for the Gods

See the cover, they certainly will. They just kept a few elements like the horns on Ares' helmet. It's like a mashup between Perez' and Chiang's, at least for him.
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>>83985634
Ww has been depicted as a feminazi for 20+ years now
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>Getting massive Conan vibes while reading this
>decide to look up artist
>turns out he worked on the Black Colossus RPG and has tons of conan art on his deviant page

Always trust your instincts.
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>>83985472
>>83985634
Just don't respond to obvious shitposters. Ignore them and move on.
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>>83985743
Has she? I can point out a few runs like the Finches that were bad but I can't say it's common. Any runs or instances you have as examples?
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>>83975850

I feel like 3 or 9 is a reference to something, i think i've seen that on a horror cover at some point

and love a 3x3
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>>83975868

Much better than Rebirth. Like Diana not stabbing and breaking necks in the fight, actually trying peace and fighting defensively.

I dunno what they're doing with the coincidence of Steve being in the same country but that page with Nicola Scott's art was the best page in the book.

Art is serviceable with some standout pages, Chiang and Scott are hard to follow by anyone desu. If we're lucky this'll be a long run and we can see the art grow.

And I bitch about the lettering but I was sucked in
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Hey I was gonna pick this up so thanks for storying it. I'm curious enough to stick with it for a few more issues at least, see where its going. Looks like it could be a fun ride
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I'm interested but I am sick of this level of decompression in comics. In nearly every title it feels like a DBZ episode and I have to wait till three issues for something to actually happen.
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At least Rucka kept the whining about things being different to a minimum this time.
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Why would Steve have only one photo of her and a mugshot at that anyway? This bugs me
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>>83986689
obviously his phone died and he couldn't recover the pics
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>>83986689

You're getting a backstory to the picture in the Rucka/Scott issues I imagine. The mugshot obviously has sentimental value.
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>>83986689
I assume it has to do with why she's in jail on this cover
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>>83975995
I am enjoying it - Rucka's original run on Wondy also took a long time to get places, but I thought the journey and the destination were both worth it. But it is slower than a lot of comics.

I would dread a Bennett Wondy - her work on Bombshells is really obnoxious. I did like her cereal-comic giveaway for Batman v Superman.
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>>83987032
>>83987119
I know
But "this one is mine" is not a good reason if he has other pictures of her
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>>83987248
I bet it's like the first picture that was ever taken of her or something
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>>83987248
>>83987320
It's just the one he's 'marked' the most
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>>83985448
I think 77 is still going on as well as Legend of WW plus she has a bunch of other stuff planned.
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>>83985448
She's gotten a lot of stuff for her 75th and upcoming movie

>Sensation Comics ft WW
>Wonder Woman '77
>Legend of Wonder Woman
>Legend of Wonder Woman getting a sequel
>Wonder Woman Earth One coming out
>Jill Thompsons' OGN

She just can't hold a normal second ongoing
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>>83983875
It shows her as a loving ambassador who would rather avoid a fight if possible, not the headstrong warrior many recent writers have turned her into.
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>>83975636
When will Cho finish Liberty Meadows?
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>>83985743
>Ww has been depicted as a feminazi for 20+ years now
Yes but not in THIS comic.
>>83985808
>I can point out a few runs like the Finches that were bad
But they didn't put any feminazi moments for her in it. She was actually fighting against feminazis in it.
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>>83975692
>NECK
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>>83983627
>>83983631

Steve didn't broke up with her.

Wonder Woman left him to protect him from something related to Cheetah, which he found to be bullshit because he has always faced danger even before meeting her and their relationship has nothing to do with his work as JL liaison.
Wonder Woman thought otherwise. She thought that Steve helped the JL just to stay near her and after that second arc of JL where Steve was kidnapped and tortured, Wonder Woman decided to end things between for good and went to fuck Superman the same night.

It was the whole "Wonder Woman can't handle puny mortals and would rather fuck a god-man like her" deal that Geoff Johns tried to push very early.
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I don't like Sharps art, Finch was better.
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>>83975636
Nice thighs
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>>83975636
This variant is ugly. Wish I got ahold of the 1st cover at my LCS. :( I hope this isn't going to be like The Jungle Book: Wonder Woman's Bare Nesseities.
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>>83975692
>>83975700
How did Etta go from Steve's secretary to his boss? That's gotta sting.
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>>83991323
Fufilling a diversity quota.
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>>83975692

>Etta Candy is now Amanda Waller

Wat
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>>83975756
Is this white lady an alien?

I'm asking this seriously, I haven't read WW since Azzarello ended, and Justice League in forever.
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>>83975768

How would Steve have that photo? Diana didn't wear gold until recently....
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>>83984106
Disagree. Sharp was pretty good with more compressed stuff, at least as far back as Testament. I have no idea why Rucka wanted it to be so decompressed, but apparently this is his style of writing. Oh well.
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>>83975756
>Will, be a doll

I will not stand for this kind of sexism in the workplace
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>>83981556
>not having the warrior's spirit
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>>83987119
scott is so good with expressions.

i like this run so far, I like the minimal dialogue and exposition. I like the atmosphere. Wonder woman has a great presence on the panels, looks tough as shit. will be following
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>>83992460
Women are just office decorations.
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>>83992460
I know right? I'm tied of the misandry in our society. I'm going on my Stumblr blog right now and tell all these misandrists that this is why we need Masculinism. Heading there anyways to talk about how happy I am that Bill Clinton is totally going to be our first male president!
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>>83992950
This was painful to read.
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>>83975868
I'm digging it.
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>>83993509
Earth 11 would be a painful place, wouldn't it?
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>>83993796
The exact same amount of pain as this world, actually..
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>>83994052
I'd agree but the higher number of amazonian women might make me debate with myself on that...
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>>83991559
It's decompressed so DC can have a nice thick Graphic Novel on the shelves next June when Wonder Woman comes out in theaters
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>>83994280
Its gonna completely bomb though
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>>83994618
I would not be so sure.
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>>83994646
>shit actress
>already shit record of dc
>likely to force feminist propaganda down our throats
Yeah, it is gonna be worse that catwoman
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