"When you look at my movies it’s always the regular Joe Schmo that’s the unlikely hero. A lot of Marvel movies, they show people in funny suits running around. I don’t like people in capes. I find it silly when someone dons a superhero suit and flies. I don’t understand it. I grew up in Germany, that’s probably why."
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/independence-day-resurgence-director-reveals-why-hes-not-interested-in-a142721
>>83902309
>Roland Emmerich
>1998 Godzilla
>The day after tomorrow
>10,000 BC
>2012
>Anonymous
>White House Down
>Has a hard on for Communism and votes for Hilary
Does he actually think his is a voice people listen to?
(((Roland Emmerich)))
>>83902393
This.
>>83902309
>I grew up in Germany, that’s probably why.
Halt die Klappe, Roland.
>>83902309
Yeah, this auteur is so fucking grounded and realistic that he tried to make a movie about the Stonewall riot, and it was the biggest piece of trash ever. I'm fucking gay and that movie, directed by a gay man, made me wish the studio had just found any mediocre straight guy to direct it instead. I mean its a movie about gays rioting, how do you make that boring?
>>83902309
All these butthurt directors taking potshots at superhero movies are hilarious.
>>83902309
>It's another "Europeans don't understand the concept of superheroes" thread
>>83902393
I mean, Godzilla 1998 should have been enough, but the man just keeps fucking up.
>>83902393
>Anonymous
Holy fuck.
I had to look up anonymous, was even funnier than I expected.
>>83902393
How can you have a hard on for communism and vote for Hillary?
>Tony stark
>Natasha romanoff
>Bruce Banner
>peter quill
>T'challa
>Fucking THOR
>"Joe schmo"
ooohh good work.
The guy that made a movie about a giant hermaphrodite iguana thinks superheroes are silly.
>>83902535
Apparently he decks his house out in memorabilia, portraits, and mural's of communist leaders.
He's German so obviously he's used to scheiße/mouth interactions.
>>83902309
The last time I was in Germany and I saw a man standing above everyone else, we had a disagreement.
>>83902309
>When you look at my movies it’s always the regular Joe Schmo that’s the unlikely hero.
Is that why they're boring as fuck?
The guy who made 10,000 BC thinks cape movies are silly. Oh thats rich.
Emmerich is just jealous that he didn't get some of that superhero money.
>Godzilla
>Independence Day
>Stargate
>not the perfect Blockbuster Sci-Fi trilogy
>>83902309
>I grew up in Germany
So he is a cuck, makes sense
>>83902309
Does he get confused by Star Wars too? I mean aliens and space ships, what the fuck is with that?! I mean the MCU is shit but not because MUH BELIEVABILITY.
I am actually looking forward to the sequel of Independence Day.
How many movies are there whose the premise is "human making techs out of a reent failed alien invasion". I want to see what can be done with it.
Any new recent trailers?
>>83902768
It Ain't Me tv spot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW-GeadKrBY
>>83902749
>Emmerich complaining about Believability
>The same guy whos biggest movie had a mac hacking into an alien OS.
>another director assblasted that Cape movies make more than there's
>>83902779
Wait, Data survived? I thought he was kill in the first movie?
>>83902784
To be fair, they had 50 years to study the technology.
>>83902784
Apparently the backmatter explains that since they had the ship since the 40's...technology had been based on it.
Including computers.
>>83902535
She'll continue most of the socialist projects of B.O., or maybe it's a conspiracy and he thinks voting Hillary will lead to the uprising of the prolls. Most likely though he's a statist, and he loathes Sander's moderate stance on gun ownership.
>>83902816
If you mean the long haired doctor guy, he was apparently in a coma, I thought he died too.
>>83902609
Was it about which Berlin Bakerei had the best Kuchen. That man's usually dead on.
>>83902920
he is played by the same actor than Data.
>>83902812
theirs
>>83902920
You know, Spend too long in a coma and you will almost certainly become brain dead.
>>83902614
It's not even true, all of his protagonists are brilliant scientists and military men.
>ID4 not available on Netfils in my country
Well, with a little luck, they will air it on normal TV channels.
>>83902947
Jesus fuck, I just looked that up, what a difference a beard and long hair make, couldn't even tell.
>>83902958
True, but from what I've gathered from the tv spots, it happened while he was mind melding with one of the aliens, so that could have prevented some degradation, also explains how he knows about the queen.
>>83902989
Wasn't John Cusack just an author with impossibly good luck?
>>83902850
I always hated that.
>The only way we could have such advanced technology is with the help of muh aliums
The work of Von Neumann, Von Braun, and Oppenheimer and the many other brilliant men doesn't count for shit then. It's a bit silly desu.
>>83902309
>I find it silly when someone dons a superhero suit and flies.
It is silly, you fucking numpty. That's why people love it.
>>83903036
Still had above average driving kills. Plus the main character was Chiwetel Ejiofor anyway.
>>83903043
Remember the time Star Trek said Vulcans gave us Velcro?
"HOLY SHIT SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE SUPERHEROES!"
I want /tv/ to go.
>>83902309
Why the fuck would they five credence or time to anything this hack has to say.
He made 10000 BC a movie as dull and engaging as a watching paint dry, white paint that actually dried a long time ago.
Oh yeah a caveman who was "le chosen one" there's a relatable everyman.
>>83902309
>>83902393
And now this idiot gets to reboot Stargate? Fucking Hollywood.
>>83902699
He likes to say that he was driven out of Germany by the critics.
>>83903211
To be fair, he wrote and directed the original.
>>83903267
No no to be fairness, it was a small miracle it survived him in the first place.
>>83902309
But that's a good thing for Marvel.
Germans aren't even humans, really.
Silence, Godzilla hater.
Your opinions have no sway here.
>>83902393
This guy is the living defnition of a C-list film director.
>>83902309
>I don’t like people in capes. I find it silly when someone dons a superhero suit and flies.
First of all, holy shit, I'm getting sick of this fucking mindset for comics in general. This is literally the mindset that led to all those shitty cape movies in the early-mid 00s
Second, The only one of those that do that is really Thor
Third, where does this mindset even come from? Didn't Snyder say something like this? You know, you'd never hear someone like Nolan say some shit like this. Even Spielberg when he talked about the comic book movie going out of fashion someday never commented on the style of the movie itself. He even has a favorite in GOTG
>>83902393
>Anonymous
IMMEDIATELY DISREGARD OPINION
>>83902514
>>It's another "Europeans don't understand the concept of superheroes" thread
Why IS that, anyway? Grant Morrison has talked a little bit about this, says it's something exceptionalism vs. conformism something?
>>83903131
Even worse
>SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE LITERALLY THE GREATEST FILMS OF ALL TIME THE MCU I CAN'T EVEN
>>83903292
True his track record is utter shit.
But at the same time you have to realize, it was his brain child, he knows what's right for it, and hopefully for the reboot what will and won't work. Think Fury Road, in anyone else's hands who knows what the finished product could have turn out to be, but Miller somehow managed to make a gem, even with plot tones that drive half the boards on this site up the wall.
I'll be the last to defend Emmerich, but sometimes the original creator does know best, but for now it's all hypothetical cause he's focusing on Jeff Goldblum vs Aliens 2: Independence Day in June.
>>83903374
>Second, The only one of those that do that is really Thor
Like the guy was going to talk shit about the people signing his current paycheck.
>>83903401
Historically, continentals have always had a fundamentally different social system to anglos.
The peasantry - which stretched from Portugal to Japan - stopped at the English Channel and instead you had a thriving property market stretching back at least to the 1200s.
Americans took that individualistic mindset and magnified it.
>>83902309
>When you look at my movies it’s always the regular Joe Schmo that’s the unlikely hero
First of all, that's not even true. Many of his protagonists are scientists and military guys.
Second of all, plenty of Marvel protagonists have been Joe Schmo unlikely heroes, like Ant-Man.
Third of all, the main character being a Joe Schmo unlikely hero doesn't make it better. Most good movies aren't about regular everymen.
>>83903105
>>83903292
Well, I might not have everyone agreed with me, but ID4 was a good movie.
>>83903444
...Stargate the movie was hardly a gem. It was an alright action movie, but it was dumb as a rock and the humor was awkward or unfunny. SG1 was the best thing to ever happen to the franchise, hell the only reason WHY it's a franchise and not forgotten.
>>83903795
Sorry I misread that, you didn't call Stargate a gem - but I stand by my point. Nobody remembers Kurt Russel's Jack O'Neil. People give a shit about RDA's Jack O'Neill.
>>83902512
It's the collapse of the hollywood system they knew and loved, and they rage against it.
It use to be that actors and directors sold movies. People like Will Smith, they go to see his movies every summer, everyone makes money, everyone wins. Now the power has shifted towards characters and adaptations and sequels. People don't care about seeing a Chris Evans movie, they want to see Captain America. There are very few true movie stars anymore, that can carry a movie all on their own.
As you can imagine, this scares the piss out of them.
>>83903927
It's true, I only refer to Tom Hiddleston and Chris Hemsworth as Loki, and Thor.
>>83903927
I think Dwayne Johnson is honestly the last big Hollywood star that can sell a movie on name alone.
>>83904189
Maybe not, if CIA flops.
>>83904189
Unless you partner him with an loud black smurf, and then release it at the same time a lesbian fish with alzheimer's goes on a sequel level adventure.
>>83902393
>Roland Emmerich
>1998 Godzilla
All I needed to read.
>>83902309
>I don't like people in capes
>I lived in Germany
The Germans really need some kind of hero man....
>>83904232
It did okay, $35 million this weekend. Not a huge hit but it only cost $50 million to make.
>>83902998
Do you live in Best Korea?
In the states we pretty much Marathon that movie every fucking July.
>>83904303
They had one, anon.
>>83902512
What other actors/directors have taken potshots at superhero movies or Marvel?
>>83903927
It's very clear that something is gonna shift in Hollywood. Look films that sold this year
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2016&p=.htm
Disney has the top 3 spots, and after Deadpool, they plunge in lower and lower sales. I keep saying it, but I think several major studios may close if this keeps up
>>83904342
the DC guys, Iñárritu said some shit about superheroes,
>>83904317
Thats good. I like Dwayne. He seems like a bro.
>>83904160
There's this great article way back in 2009 or something that when Chris and Tom were cast went "Well, let's hope the special effects are good" because they were nobodies.
Hollywood really doesn't know what's hitting them. I'm frankly glad because I'm tired of seeing the same people at the Oscars since I was 9 dominate everything.
>>83902309
>I find it silly when someone dons a superhero suit and flies
And the line 'the neutrinos have mutated' isn't silly?
>>83904342
Zack Synder said that he can't take two people dressed in costumes and capes seriously, like after a minute you are Cary aware that they are just guys in costumes instead of their characters.
Fucking hack.
>>83903927
>People don't care about seeing a Chris Evans movie, they want to see Captain America
Can you just imagine how completely impossible it was to read this sequence of words as a sentence not even a decade ago?
>>83904426
>>83904358
>>83903927
You guys are aware that ID4 was predicted to flop because it was a cast of nobodies, right?
Yes, including Will Smith. all he had for him at that point was the Fresh Prince and Independance Day was the movie that actually launched his career. Many actually predicted that his casting alone was proof of how little hope that movie had.
Eimerich's movie doesn't particularly stand out by its popular cast. (they don't particularly stand out at all, desu).
Stargate and ID4 are the only two good movies I can think of him.
>>83904508
Lets not forget how he thought it would be "fun" to kill off an iconic character like Jimmy Olsen.
Or told the cast and crew not to read the comics because he thought it would be "pointless".
>>83904342
Spielberg, Iñárritu, Snyder, Verhoven.
>Roland fucking Emmerich thinks he's in a position to judge anything as being "silly"
Is this nigger for real?
Does he actually just have ZERO self-awareness?
There's not a single movie in his portfolio that isn't a complete, shameless ball of cheese.
Don't tell me that this man takes his own output seriously.
>>83904568
Usually I would say "Shut the fuck up, Boco!" but today you happen to be 100% right
>>83904568
>how he thought it would be "fun" to kill off an iconic character like Jimmy Olsen.
Was it actually Jimmy Olsen? in the movie itself, he was only ever refereed as CIA, then ded. it could just be a nobody. Is he titled at any point as Jimmy?
>>83904568
>Or told the cast and crew not to read the comics because he thought it would be "pointless".
that's not THAT weird, like if you want them to focus on making the performance and not imitating stuff or something.
>>83904585
what'd Spielberg and Verhoven say?
>>83904619
No, but later he specifically said it was meant to be Jimmy, just to shock fans.
>>83903505
>>83903401
I still don't get the idea that Euros couldn't into superheroes, when the FUNDAMENTAL moral of the entire genre is effectively Noblesse Oblige. It's Spider-Man's Mantra, but it basically applies to every superhero.
Is it because Europe had actual nobility, and has all but completely rejected it, or what?
>>83904619
He's credited as jimmy olsen in the uncut version.
>>83904650
Some said that the cape genre exist in the comic to fill in the absence of mythology other countries already have.
>>83904626
Spielberg:
>Steven Spielberg on Wednesday predicted an "implosion" in the film industry is inevitable, whereby a half dozen or so $250 million movies flop at the box office and alter the industry forever. What comes next -- or even before then -- will be price variances at movie theaters, where "you're gonna have to pay $25 for the next Iron Man, you're probably only going to have to pay $7 to see Lincoln." He also said that Lincoln came "this close" to being an HBO movie instead of a theatrical release.
Also said eventually superhero movies would go the way of the western and die out, but that they could come back around again.
>>83904682
ehh that's not really hating on them. i'm reading it as more of a shot at hollywood now where almost everything is a tentpole or cheap indie stuff with almost no mid range movies.
>>83902309
>I grew up in Germany
Are you just going to take that, Germany?
He's just throwing his lack of comprehension onto you like you're one big country and people of incompetents who don't and can't get things.
Grew up in Germany? Want to see a Marvel movie? Well, shit, good fucking luck.
All day. Literally all day someone somewhere's deflecting blame for something onto you. When is enough enough?
>>83904712
Here's Verhoeven, it's much of the same
>“I’m not positive about the further development of all [this] science-fiction stuff,” Verhoeven said. “I have a feeling that everything has been said and done and I think we should go back to a bit more normality. All these big superheroes and whatever, I don’t know what dream this is of the United States, but I feel that we lost contact completely with normal people, and that the story of us is more interesting than that of a superhero.”
>“Right now, Hollywood doesn’t fit with my artistic sensibilities,” he continued. “I feel that in France and in Europe, there is enormous respect for filmmakers. This doesn’t happen in Hollywood. For us, it’s hard to shoot there because they do not want what we want. There, all films must be visible to the greatest number. Money rules everything. The studios have abandoned the quality. Everything is smooth, it idles. They try to avoid controversy.”
>>83902876
BO...socialist...really?
BO is a bland vanilla centrist.
>>83904342
>>83904585
And Dan Gilroy.
And didn't the guy directing Suicide Squad throw shade on the MCU?
>>83903374
It's the same mindset as Michael Bay, of not making any effort with a movie because "lol its dumb anyway." There's a kind of inverse snobbery at its root.
Marvel's movies are made by people who respect the characters and source material. That's why even the weaker Marvel movies shit on almost every Hollywood capeshit made in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s.
Kevin Smith had it right when he said we are getting comic movies which actually resemble the source material whereas in the past you had to accept shitty adaptations which were often insulting.
If you are making a movie try to tell an interesting story, and make it as good as you can, even if it's a film about a talking hamster, at least make an effort ffs.
>>83904682
That's not so much shittalking superheroes so much as realistically assessing the Blockbuster Movie as fairly toxic to the industry, from the man who created the Blockbuster.
>>83903597
Basically, the likes of Scott, Wanda, Peter, Steve, Sam, and Clint are, underneath their powers, ordinary people who find themselves in extraordinary situations.
>>83904781
>“I’m not positive about the further development of all [this] science-fiction stuff,” Verhoeven said. “I have a feeling that everything has been said and done and I think we should go back to a bit more normality.
Almost nothing has, Hollywood is clinically incapable of assessing the impact of technology on society.
We don't have a single movie that shows what the world would look like after self-driving cars let alone one where a computer algorithm is the one reading your resume and making decisions about whether or not to hire you or one where a phone app can function as 90% accurate lie detector.
>>83902779
I still say this should have come out on July 4th
>>83905380
A Monday? Would never work.
July 1st would have been perfect.
>>83903927
This is a good thing.
>>83904189
true, The Rock is very charismatic.
>>83902514
You know superman was created by europeans, no?
>>83904522
Well to be fair I don't think Chris was a big enough star to have people go 'Oh hey I want to go see Chris Evans's new movie.'.
>>83904781
I'm a pleb, so the only movies of his I saw was RoboCop, which was basically a superhero movie anyway.
>>83902309
Who is this guy and why should I care?
>>83906202
Watch Starship Troopers.
A movie that gives fascism the finger so expertly, some people didn't even get it was satire.
>>83905014
>It's the same mindset as Michael Bay, of not making any effort with a movie because "lol its dumb anyway." There's a kind of inverse snobbery at its root.
But Bay does put a lot of effort into his movies in his role as a director.
>>83906289
Wasn't that a book adaptation?
>>83902309
>it’s always the regular Joe Schmo
So, a jew?
>I grew up in Germany
Let me guess, east germany?
>>83902309
I'm not going to take the word of a man who doesn't believe Shakespeare wrote his own plays and made 10,000 BC.
>>83906324
In name only. Paul couldn't even finish reading it. But he was given orders to "make it a movie, do whatever you want!" so he did.
>>83906202
RoboCop was essentially a Judge Dredd movie. Also, watch Total Recall.
>>83902309
I know several people here in Germany too who just find the concept too silly to take serious or see it as entertaining,
>>83906273
>who is roland emmerich
>being this 12
>>83906273
He tried to kill Godzilla.
Don't listen to a word he says.
>>83903927
This new brand reliance of Hollywood is so gonna kick them in the ass when people get tired of it.
>>83904746
Interestingly enough action movies seem to do worse in Germany in general, so he has no room to talk because he also misses the market.
>>83902309
Doesn't he have a twink or two to rape?
ITT people in their mom's basement on their free day from their job at arby's trashing a millionaire director who's made some of hollywood's most classic popcorn flicks
stay /tv/, /co/
>>83906627
I don't think that contradicts what he's saying at all, most action movies are far more silly and less believable than any MCU movie could ever be.
They also tend to be shit but that's besides the point.
>>83906762
>listening to a thing the Eternal Kraut has to say
>>83906888
the /pol/ack hordes can't stand against the might of these trips
>>83906762
>some of hollywood's most classic popcorn flicks
Sit down Roland.
>>83906324
yes and no, it's pretty much only an adaptation in regards to the title and names of some of the characters, it was originally an unrelated concept called Bug Hunt, they just slapped the Starship Troopers name on it after getting the rights for cheap for brand recognition reasons
I feel like standing up for Germany. I'm sure there's someone there who isn't as stupid as him.
>I don't like this, it's silly and I don't get it
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
HOLY SHIT HOW CAN MARVEL POSSIBLY RECOVER FROM THIS!?
>>83905307
>We don't have a single movie that shows what the world would look like after self-driving cars let alone one where a computer algorithm is the one reading your resume and making decisions about whether or not to hire you or one where a phone app can function as 90% accurate lie detector.
Because few of those ideas are interesting enough to drive a plot unless you REALLY wrench them into being about something else.
>>83905933
With a capital S, Heimlich
>>83907212
So, exactly what happened with I, Robot andJemthen.
germans had flying heroes?
>>83906762
>classic popcorn flicks
come on
I don't even dislike the guy but his flicks aren't classics
>>83904317
massive flop
it cost 50 million, that means the marketing really was 300 million and a movie has to make 4x its budget in the first 3 hours of its domestic release.
Looks like the Rock's career is offically over
>>83907900
>it cost 50 million, that means the marketing really was 300 million
Remind me to never let you do my taxes.
>>83906762
Hey there Melissa McCarthy, good luck with Ghostbusters.
>>83902309
>Roland Emmerich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITEH6FNw9yA
>>83908057
>Roland Emmerich is derivative
>Who's that
DOUBLE KILL
>>83904585
>>83904877
And David Cronenberg.
He sounded pretty sour that the TDKR overshadowed the movie he had released at the time TDKR was at the theaters.
>>83902393
He's also a pedophile.
>>83903374
This was the whole mindset behind 90's comic movies.
They were trying really hard to adapt comics, that were not traditional superheroes so we had shit like Judge Dredd, The Mask, Blade, Crow, Mystery Men, Tank Girl etc.
And then they tried to take the cape out of other comic series and adapt them as weird action movies like Steel, that Superman one where he was not supposed to fly wear a cape or wear blue, the X-Men movies with the black leather,
Batman and Spawn were the only ones that came out without too much changed, and that's not saying much.
All these old fucks, I can't wait for like a Scorsese to make an awesome Superhero flick.
course that won't happen bc they won't let people with vision near the movies but w/e i can dream
check out VOD for a bunch of cool small movies you've never heard of, way of the future
>>83902309
reminds of this hilarious "review" of ID4
https://youtu.be/wcma0bKjJlY
>>83903360
Godzilla 98 is garbage and you know ittho i kinda like the design
>>83908252
>that Superman one where he was not supposed to fly wear a cape or wear blue
Was that the one where his suit was a symbiote kept in a Pringles can or the one where he fights a giant spider?
>>83908252
it's that they feel shame being based on comic books cause comic books were aimed at kids and you can't take stuff for kids seriously!
DC has been struggling with this for-fucking-ever.
also might be another reason something like Legion's been benched, that's pure goofy sci fi comics fun. not just them look around for any other big goofy silver age team around today, Metal Men, Doom Patrol, Jimmy Olsen.
>>83908308
It was a bad Godzilla movie. It was a fine remake of The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms.
>>83907540
The Red Baron
>>83908353
A bigger part of it is the director's ego. Thy want to be the "Creator!" and that is not happening when they are just putting someone else's work to film. So they alter shit with the whole thought process of "I can do this better, I am a muuuuch greater creative genius than the original writers!" and they get to work adapting shit. Just so they can make it somewhat their baby and claim they improved things or dropped all the shit they did not personally care for.
>>83903444
>Think Fury Road
Returning the original creator to the project doesn't make it good. See Prometheus.
>>83903444
>he knows what's right for it
The movie was shit compared to SG1
