>9 Days
Snyderkino is coming.
>>83898374
The theatrical release is a shit sandwich. The Ultimate edition has more bread.
enjoy.
>>83898389
>being this pleb
Sort your life out mate.
If they'd released this in theatres it would've been 90% on RT, fuck you WB.
>>83898441
>Being this delusional
Just let it go and hope for Justice League
>>83898571
Except because of you people they've taken it out of based Snyder's hand and want to turn it into disneyfied bullshit like Civil War.
>>83898374
It's already improved drastically with the new DC logo being on it instead of the fucking peel.
>>83898374
Wow, this dog shit is already almost on home media?
>>83898603
>disneyfied bullshit like Civil War
I cried when Cap snapped Bucky's neck.
>>83899739
>I cried when Cap snapped Bucky's neck.
I fucking wish that'd happened.
Or that Tony did it.
Why didn't they torrent the leak? Fucking hopeless.
>>83899768
>Or that Tony did it.
Movie should have ended with Tony sitting on a throne with the charred skulls of the captured Avengers at his feet while drinking a glass as the film cuts to black with In the End by Linkin Park playing
>>83900006
Probably low-res.
>>83898374
I keep thinking that thumbnail is the porn parody.
Will it get a digital release when it's physically released?
>>83900069
Digital release is on the 28th, physical isn't until next month.
>>83900084
Thanks, friend.
I don't care enough about DC live-action stuff to go see it in a theater, but it still seems worth watching.
>>83898389
I bet you liked Civil War
literally KYS
>>83898374
It amazed me how deluded fanboys can be
>>83900329
>deluded
That's a funny way of spelling "realist".
>>83900292
I did.
Go be irrelevant somewhere else.
>>83900569
Civil War sucked hard dude.
>>83900603
According to no one.
>even that South Park game is making fun of DC
kys goys
>>83900610
It was a perfunctory, styleless mess of a contractual obligation. Its plot is complete wank that tries to appear deep by seeming to be about an actual issue, when it's really just the excuse for the fights. Every character in the film acts like an asshole, even the ones you're supposed to like, hell especially them (looking at you Cap). Total crap.
>>83900696
You know you just described BvS, right?
>>83900696
Aside from Cap being selfish about muh Bucky and Vision being a literal autist, I don't remember them being assholes.
I mean, Tony was a dick at the end, but it was understandable.
>>83900696
I know this is bait and all, but for shits and giggles, name one assholish thing cap did besides keeping from tony that bucky killed his parents.
>>83898374
No matter what you fucking autists will always bring up company war bullshit.
Grow up, for fuck sake.
>>83900734
Completely disregard the idea that he should be held accountable to anyone ever.
>>83900708
That's the thing, BvS and CW are 90% the same movie. It's just that CW doesn't realise how depressing and fucked up it is.
>>83900292
>>83900569
>>83900603
>>83900696
>>83900748
The thing is, it's only the DC Friends doing this.
BvS was just objectively bad as a film. Editing, dialogue, etc. When people criticize it, they criticize that.
It's the DC Friends who try to paint any criticism as company wars: "sorry it wasn't a quipfest"; "people won't accept it because it's not Disney"; "Disney bribed everyone" etc.
>>83900900
>BvS was just objectively bad as a film.
Do you not understand movies or something?
>>83900929
Yes, that's why I, like almost everyone, found the movie to be defective as a film in a number of areas.
Arguing otherwise is just rabid fanboyism. It was a deeply flawed work whether you're a fan of DC or not.
>>83900963
What's the deep flaws that make it not work as a movie?
>>83900768
He didn't do that.
Even if he did, he'd be right, as anyone available to supervise him was de facto more corrupt than him.
>>83900979
Not that anon but we all know you're going to dismiss everything said as a meme.
>>83900979
Shit editing
Shit dialogue
Shit characters
Shit plot
It must have gone over your head because your a blind fanboy though
>>83901012
The second he said "objectively" he was talking out of his ass.
>>83901040
>Shit editing
I can buy the other criticisms as matters of taste, but I refuse to believe that people on /co/ know enough about editing to have a reasonable criticisms of it.
>>83900979
>character motivation
>character development
>coherent plot lines
>shit just fucking happens
>>83900979
>What's the deep flaws that make it not work as a movie?
The first hour after the prologue advances chronologically but has no sense of momentum. It's a series of interchangeable subplots that could have been rearranged. I was bored when I watched it.
Lex Luthor is a main character with a schisophrenic motivation, Superman is incredibly understated, has minimal dialog, and is a passive reactive protagonist.
This is the part where you criticize me for not scrutinizing every frame and line of dialog for its deeper meaning, or claim I'm just dumb or ignorant for not recognizing symbolism.
Later I'll reply and mention that i did get the symbolism and was unimpressed, but you won''t reply to that post.
>>83901071
>character motivation
What's unclear about their motivations?
>>83901068
>but I refuse to believe that people on /co/ know enough about editing to have a reasonable criticisms of it
The editing was bad, bro.
>>83901106
>The editing was bad, bro.
Real in depth. Totally proved me wrong I guess.
>>83901068
Well, at least we can speak proper English.
When you incoherently jump from one scene to another, it doesn't take a genius to call you out on your amateur editing.
>>83901165
>When you incoherently jump from one scene to another
It's called a "cut", it's pretty basic.
>>83901068
But by that same token how can you claim your praise is informed?
Nothing can save emo superman.
Nothing can save autistic lex.
Nothing can save skinny Wonder Woman.
Nothing can save homeless flash.
Nothing can save cave troll doomsday.
Nothing can save us from Zack Snyder and his cunt wife.
>>83901232
The cut is supposed to assist the progression of the movie, not make the audience wonder what the fuck is going on.
Jesus, am I conversing with an autist? Are you trolling me or something?
>>83901278
I'm Steven Spielberg.
>>83901232
But cuts must remain coherent between one another, let's say you had a scene with Batman fucking up bad guys and cut to Lois Lane going to the Pentagon or some shit.
That's shit editing, because the scenes have no correlation between each other.
BvS has PLENTY of instances like that, and you trying to deny it shows your blind fonboyism going in full effect.
>>83901333
You the one talking like you don't understand what a cut is. "Oh the went from one scene in one place to another somewhere else but the characters never walked or drove there! Absurd!"
>>83901349
If that's incoherence then every movie is incoherent as fuck.
>>83901089
I am not >>83901071 but personally I found there to be a a weird kind of begrudging passivity in a lot of the characters that was necessary for the narrative to do what it wanted irrespective of them or what it claims their presentation to be.
Clark doesn't want to be treated like a god, but he makes no effort to get humanity to accept him as anything else. Bruce wants to defeat Superman, but won't make any effort to research his target independently of what the clearly unhinged maniac is feeding him. Lex wants to prove there's no such thing as gods and aliens suck, but he goes and makes the biggest baddest one yet. Additionally he's a supposedly master manipulator that can't even bribe politicians to get what he wants or cover his tracks well enough to stay out of jail.
>>83901333
>Are you trolling me or something?
Yes, he is. See >>83901336
>>83900979
3 months of people shitting on it all over the internet, some explaining it really well, and you are still asking?
>>83901354
We're not discussing the definition of a cut, but the correct use of it.
Look, if you're unable to follow a simple conversation, don't bother trying be smart.
>>83901378
>you are still asking?
It's not being done in good faith. At this point, as you note, it really can't be.
>>83901373
Other movies have resets. You snyderfags decided that was a meme though.
Anyway, that troll's pathetic whining aside, what exactly is different about the Ultimate Edition?
>>83901405
The fuck is a reset? Did you just make that up?
>>83901422
Bruce Wayne's ass, Superman actually helps people post explosion instead of immediately going off to sulk, and more unnecessary bullet subplot and how it ties back into Lex framing Superman.
>>83901445
>Bruce Wayne's ass
Sold!
>>83901445
> and more unnecessary bullet subplot and how it ties back into Lex framing Superman.
Fuck. It just digs the hole deeper, huh? That subplot was one of the stupidest and least necessary in a film full of unnecessary shit.
>>83901422
>Extended Nairomi scene that makes sense now.
>Clark investigating Batman in Gotham.
>Africa lady was working for Lex.
>Finch found out that's why she got blowed up.
>Extra Lois investigating stuff.
>Batass.
>Scene of Supes helping survivors after the bombing.
>More Clark character moments.
Basically explains the plot logic gaps and has better characterization.
>>83901443
Establishing shots. They signal a change in location, time, or perspective, and reset the context the audience is given.
Now's the part where you say BUT SNYDER DID THAT or ESTABLISHING SHOTS ARE A MEME or I UNDERSTOOD IT FINE EVERYONE ELSE IS STUPID
>>83901483
It's what leads Lois to Lex. It's more important in the ultimate cut. Also the whole "Why would they frame Supes with bullets" thing is explained. KGBeast burned up the bodies with that flamethrower of his, to make it look like heat vision.
>>83901503
Oh. You're just parroting RLM. Makes sense now.
>>83901529
Right. Establishing shots are a meme propagated by Red Letter Media.
>>83901485
>>Extended Nairomi scene that makes sense now.
But it simply can't.
Sure that was supposed to be Lex framing Supes, but it still makes zero sense that he would arm his mercenaries with experimental bullets manufactured only by him.
It's just shit writing.
>>Finch found out that's why she got blowed up.
Is there an extended scene showing Lex sneaking into the Senate chambers and hiding the piss jar in her desk?
>>83901576
Just stop responding. You know he's not operating in good faith, the definition of a troll. You're only encouraging him when you respond.
>>83901584
>Is there an extended scene showing Lex sneaking into the Senate chambers and hiding the piss jar in her desk?
Why would there be? You already know he did it.
>>83901576
But must they always be used?
>>83901599
Nah man I knew that weeks ago when I realized replies like >>83901376 almost never get addressed. I just enjoy going through the motions
>>83900658
It's making fun of both of them desu
>>83901678
That's a loaded question.
No, there's no rule that must *always* be followed in film, but there are fundamental things that, when you fail to use them or to use them properly, will torpedo a narrative almost instantly. (The Last Airbender is a great example of this. There's nothing WRONG with extreme close ups, but Shyamalan didn't realize that you can't ALWAYS use them. There's a time and place for them.)
Given the sheer number of concurrent plots in BvS, the lack of establishing is a detriment. There cast is too big and there are too many competing plot lines to switch from one to another without contextualizing them and giving the audience that second to breathe before switching gears.
And the thing is, you don't need a film degree to sense something is off when fundamentals like this are disregarded. You won't know why specifically something feels off, but you will notice it. People were confused by BvS's jumping from point to point. That's not because they're stupid. It's because the movie lacks the clarity that narrative resets by way of establishing shots provide. It fails on a fundamental guideline.
You might try to argue that the lack of those narrative resets is intentional to enhance the "dreamlike: quality of the movie, except that it's done with such a heavy hand and so often that it lacks any nuance. For example, jumping from the Knightmare to the Flash warning? That works. (Kind of anyway) Jumping from Bruce to Lois? That's a bad cut. That's the kind of thing that needs a proper scene cap and reset.
But now's the part where you go on about how smart you are and the entire rest of the audience is retarded.
Twenty bucks to make the original ten bucks worth it.
Fuck off, WB. You know exactly the scam you're running.
>>83901906
When you put it that way this kind of reminds me of the Mass Effect 3 DLC.
>>83901584
Here you are just trying to justify your point and disregard what the other poster was trying to tell you just so you can shit all over the movie and this new cut. For fuck sake dude, the bullet subplot did make sense in the new cut. Did you missed the time where a generous anon uploaded those cutscenes to youtube?
>>83901906
Eh, WB is a business. They're going to try to make money any way you can, that's no surprise.
Blame the people who made the shit itself.
>>83900569
Hahaha pathetic
Nothing can save emo superman.
Nothing can save autistic lex.
Nothing can save skinny Wonder Woman.
Nothing can save homeless flash.
Nothing can save cave troll doomsday.
Nothing can save us from Zack Snyder and his cunt wife.
>>83900991
2/10 bait
>>83901938
Nope. The bullet scene cant', by definition, make any sense.
It's just retarded. If this was Lex trying to lure Lois in, there are a million simpler, more sensible, ways to do it.
It's shit. Sorry, Snyderfag.
>>83901938
I'm not the guy you're replying to and I haven't watched the new scenes so can you tell me why DOES Lex use bullets that can be easily traced to him?
Because even the most bottom rung of gotham criminals knows to file the serial numbers off their guns.
>>83902019
>there are a million simpler, more sensible, ways to do it.
And Lex never does that, not in the cartoons, not in the comics, he always wants complicated shit.
>>83902029
There's no explanation. Prepare for trolls yelling about memes and Disney.
>>83901987
t. cuck
>>83902056
DCAU Lex did sensible things all the time. If Snyder had copied that it would have been fine.
And that Lex used far fewer piss jars.
>>83902056
Cite some specific examples.
Because while I can think of times Lex has complicated plots, those are usually so that he can have deniability. Which is something this Lex obviously lacks, as he ends up in prison.
That's what bugs me the most. If Eisenlex is as smart as you guys are claiming, how come he got caught?
>>83902137
>Lex never gets caught
He always gets caught.
He's ended up in prison hundreds of times since the fucking silver age
>>83902137
>If Eisenlex is as smart as you guys are claiming, how come he got caught?
Because Eisenlex is literally "What if the posters at /r9k/ had billions of dollars?"
Onlu autists mistake autism for intelligence.
>>83902168
>He's ended up in prison hundreds of times since the fucking silver age
So it should be easy for you to find an example. Yet you haven't
Lex uses plausible deniability. That's why he can effectively run for president and people love him. It's what makes him a good foil for Superman; the bastion of Truth and Justice with a near perfect approval rating can't convince anyone that Lex is a bad guy.
>>83902228
>and people love him
No one loves Lex.
At least not after the first couple of his "Metropolis destroying plans to kill Superman"
It is goddamn obscene that Max Landis wrote a better Superman story than we're getting in the movies.
>>83902257
Then why did he win the presidency?
Heck, let's go with something more recent.
Literally four days ago he was able to do >>83901235 and people in universe were going FUCK YEAH LEX IS A HERO.
Oh but let me guess, this week doesn't count as a modern Lex. It's a meme, right? Because everything you dislike is a meme.
>people actually look forward watching BvS again
I always knew you actually liked this movie, /co/.
>>83901485
Does it explain why Lex let an invulnerable super monster loose to destroy his own city with no way of stopping it?
What exactly was the plan here if Doomsday had killed Superman? Lex had no way of controlling or stopping Doomsday. If the Justice League was his backup plan, that hadn't moved beyond the "get some video and photographs of them" stage.
>>83902297
>Then why did he win the presidency?
Why is Trump a frontrunner?
Lex is charismatic.
That's literally the ONLY thing that seperates EisenLex with comic Lex in the long run.
Both have had horrible plans and have ended up in prison.
Comic Lex just has more charisma.
They're both the same pathetic piece of shit on the inside. Which is why I liked this Lex.
>>83902314
>100 posts
>27 IPs
You mean the 10 DCEU fans left.
>>83902297
That version of Lex was in jail for 3+ years and only got exonerated because he decided that with Superman out of the way he could be a hero.
He's even admitted that his actions for being a hero are completely egotistical.
>>83902326
He would give Doomsday a jar of piss, his ultimate weakness. That whole bit was genius foreshadowing, which you were obviously too dumb to get.
>>83898374
Can't wait to make webm's so we can properly laugh at this magnificent clusterfuck.
>>83902353
Well, I can see how someone that likes BvS wouldn't understand how Charisma is not a dump stat. Good on you for admitting that sperg isn't like the actual Lex, too.
>>83902364
>10 DCEU fans
You mean trolls pretending to like the DCEU to rile people up.
>>83902297
What the fuck are you even arguing?
This is the JUSTkino we deserve.
>>83902378
But Lex already sacrificed a prime piss jar from his vault. Could he really part with another one? He only has enough piss stored up to drink for 5 years, that's hardly anything.
>>83902392
He is though.
He just lacks one aspect.
The least important aspect.
A Lex is only really defined by how much of a piece of shit he is, check, and howmuch he wants to kill Supeman for petty reasons, check.
>>83902364
How can you see IPs in threads?
>>83902452
>there are people this new posting in 4Channel
>>83902426
If by least, you mean most.
Like, you guys love lauding how manipulative he is, but without that charisma, he actually isn't very manipulative.
ALL villains are pieces of shit. ALL villains want to kill the heroes for petty reasons. Those aren't special. Congratulations. Your Lex can be replaced with literally any other villain. Great success.
>>83902403
Fuck off until you're smart enough to understand.
>>83902452
Like this
>>83902501
I understand your shitposting
>>83902501
>he really isn't that mmanipulative
>stops checks from reaching a crippled widower, driving him to radical acts
>gets members of the senate committee on his side
>only to plan on murdering them with a bomb to cover his tracks
>let's his trusted, and incredibly lusting toward him, assistant to die in said bombing for deniability
And not even another great modern Lex story, the Black Ring, needed him to be charismatic.
The entire ending required him to be a petty asshole.
Which he excelled at.
ITT: DCCU haters BTFO.
(And that is never going to stop seeming weird, the two Cs in DCCU)
>>83902466
You don't learn if you don't ask. Call me whatever you want, I prefer to learn.
>>83902582
>>stops checks from reaching a crippled widower, driving him to radical acts
Oh wow mail fraud. 10/10 villainy right there. So smart. So brilliant.
>gets members of the senate committee on his side
If he truly did that then he wouldn't need to,
>only to plan on murdering them with a bomb to cover his tracks
>let's his trusted, and incredibly lusting toward him, assistant to die in said bombing for deniability
Except he never uses that as evidence of his deniability and again, the fact that he gets caught proves it didn't work even if that's a deleted scene.
Try again.
>>83902554
I don't deny that a Snyderfag with a trip would understand shitposting intimately.
http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/06/17/woman-faces-charges-for-drop-kicking-batman-v-superman-cake-at-k/
>On Saturday, at about 2 p.m., a woman went into a Kroger store in Bloomfield Township, Michigan, to pick up a custom-made "Batman v Superman" birthday cake she had ordered for her 7-year-old. When she arrived at the bakery section and inspected the cake, she told the bakery employees she wasn't satisfied with how it turned out.
>She reportedly went behind the counter and attempted to fix the cake herself, even though employees told her she wasn't allowed back there. This angered the customer and she brought the cake to the front of the counter and drop kicked it, sending cake debris across the whole bakery section.
Who did this?
>>83902586
It's DCEU: DC Extended Universe
This is the level of intelligence evidenced by Snyderfags.
>ITT: DCCU haters BTFO.
Please stop, my sides can take only so much laughter.
>>83898374
I disliked BvS but I didn't mind MoS. Maybe this ultimate cut will save it, a Director's Cut worked for Kingdom of Heaven.
>>83902364
>less than 4 posts per user
What exactly do you want? People to drop in, leave a meme and go away? It's better if people make a few posts to discuss stuff.
>>83902658
>if he did that then he wouldn't need to
Sorry, should have clarified, he got them on his side to get illegal access to Zod's body and the Scout Ship
>the fact that he gets caught proves it didn't work even if that's a deleted scene.
Lex usually gets caught
>>83902586
That's why Warner itself calls it DCEU, DC Expanded Universe.
>>83902658
>Oh wow mail fraud. 10/10 villainy right there. So smart. So brilliant.
So brilliant that the World's Greatest Detective c couldn't see through that kindergarten-level forgery.
God, every aspect of that film was shit.
>>83902713
For your own sake, stop before your embarrass yourself any further.
>>83900696
>when you realize CW and BvS are the same movie
Goddamn it.
>>83902726
>So brilliant that the World's Greatest Detective c couldn't see through that kindergarten-level forgery.
I don't know.
Scrawls are scrawls. All he would have to do on is the guy's other "FALSE IDOL' scribble
>>83902553
>he has the entry level pleb tier
Ooooh look at Daddy Warbucks here.
>>83900979
Anon, we've been down this road. Why are you asking, you're just going to dismiss it. You always do, it's talking to a wall.
HELLO I CAME TO 4CHAN
WHERE DO ANONYMOUS TALK I WANT TO HACK COMPUTERS
>>83902670
To be fair I'd be pissed too if they told me to come back in four months for an extended cake that supposedly fixes the problems.
>>83902670
>drop kicked
I would pay any number of moneys to see someone drop kick a cake.
I got to know. Are DCEU defenders self aware and are just shitposting, or are people really this delusional thinking BvS is more than it really is. You can like the movie, but you cant tell me it doesnt fuck up
>>83903446
I love BvS and I think most of the problems people have with it are either a matter of taste/or them being stupid. However there is pacing issues in the first thirty or so minutes, and the "Martha" is exactly how I felt about Zodds neck being snapped, a terrible execution to an otherwise fine idea.
I generally stay away from these thread but every so often when someone seems genuinely curious to something I feel obligated to give an answer just so it's not constant company wars.
>>83901089
Why does Superman care about Batman branding and manslaughtering criminals when he's melting terrorist's faces off.
>>83904367
Because for some reason criminals beat up criminals that get caught by Batman when they end up in prison.
Ignore that one of the criminals was a slaver and another a pedophile, which normally happen anyways in prison.
>>83898603
You wish it was more like Civil War.
