Would you buy a comic about superhero MJ doing superhero MJ things?
>>83880388
No. Like I won't buy Spider-Gwen.
I would by her in a comic where she and Peter were married.
>>83880388
Would it do what no one has in 20 years and make MJ an interesting character?
>>83880388
Would it address how much of a hypocrite she is?
No, there's too many female spiderman comics as there is.
>>83880388
No. I would rather series maintained strong supporting casts instead of insisting that absolutely every character be a cape.
>>83880388
Does she have a steamy rendezvous with Black Cat?
Who is the creative team?
You could pitch a comic about Forbrush Man and the only thing that matters is the creative team, including colorist, inker and editor
>>83880444
When you say interesting character, you obviously mean very promiscuous, yes?
>This is Marvel's actual attitude toward her
>>83880444
>>83880458
Being stuck in the echo chamber that is every Spidey thread made me forget that there's a good chunk of people who don't like her
>>83880496
Yes but only when she needs a boost in sales
>>83880483
You mean like 2?
>>83880499
>Who is the creative team?
Writer is Slott
Artist is Ramos
So is this Iron Spider MJ actually happening? It seems like a really dumb move and contradicts some things. Unless this is some sort of weird step to get her back with Peter???
I would in she doing Superhero stuff with her husband, Peter Parker.
>>83880675
>Yes but only when she needs a boost in sales
I like the chances of this becoming frequent.
>>83880675
Its not that I dont like Mary Jane, really Im indifferent to her, its just that going from "I cant be with you because of your superhero thing" to "Im a superhero now" seems kind of bullshit
>>83880499
>Forbush Man
I see we have an old fag here - or at least someone with very deep archival knowledge.
>>83880675
>that creative team
Mate, you could pitch me the absolute perfect book and if you follow it up with "W: Slott, A: Ramos" I would likely not even torrent it.
>>83880388
>that thigh gap
Hnggggggg. Would the comic feature her doing porn?
>>83880675
>Writer is Slott
>Artist is Ramos
Go to hell!
>>83880749
Because it is bullshit.
It's the highest order of bullshit.
>>83880675
I couldn't pass on that creative team fast enough
>>83880458
uh? How is she an hypocrite?
>>83880642
That's probably about all she might have going for her.
>>83880861
>I can never be with you Peter, Your life is just too dangerous for me
>be assistant to Tony Stark? OK
>be a superhero? Fine
>>83880861
She left Pete because she was tired of super heroics. Then she works for Tony Stark, her becoming a superhero would add insult to injury
maybe if her boobs were bigger
>>83880642
>Man how do we shake this female character up?
>have a date a popular male superhero?
>genius
>>83880902
Uh what? You know this thing is the direct consequence of Peter selling out his marriage to the devil.
Any story elements that lead to Peter and MJ not being together can not be laid on any on them, there can't be no blame, there. It's artificial naration and Quesada is the sole responsible.
You can't call MJ an hypocrite for that.
>>83880388
No I would not
>>83880956
She isn't dating tony? Wasn't there even rumor they might actually be Siblings?
>>83880956
But that's MJs entire character.
>>83880963
But wasn't it actually Mary Jane who went through the deal?
>>83880991
>>83880963
This was a recent thing nig nog. She ditched him and doesn't even want to be friends anymore.
>>83880963
Theyre kind of hinting about undoing the OMD thing if the Deadpool crossover is anything to go by
>>83881047
No. Peter. She agreed to follow him on his decision, but Peter was driving the decision, there.
>>83880991
I'm talking about the end of Superior when Peter got his body back and MJ left because she said she was tired of that life, then she works for Tony Stark. OM is its own demon
>>83880388
While on the topic of asking questions, does anyone sameface better than Campbell?
>>83881068
They're not doing that. Kelly is just using it for plot.
>implying Kelly has any pull anywhere
>>83881020
>she isn't dating tony
She basically took over Pepper potts place in tony's life and might as well be dating tony.
>>83881054
I miss MJ and Peter happy couple life.
>>83881068
Elaborate on that?
>>83880388
Only if her costume was skin tight/extremely skimpy and it's all she ever wears.
>>83881054
>This was a recent thing nig nog
Doesn't matter.
It's still the consequence of the wish/editorial decision
they can't be together, therefore, they will force into the story contrived reason as to why that will make naratively no sense. The cause is the wish/quesada, and they will force the character to take decision that contradict the narrative to maintain that situation, no matter how dumb it sound.
>>83881068
Let's hope so.
>>83881108
>Elaborate on that?
Mephisto showed up and whispered something in Peter's ear. And now Peter's unworthy.
>>83881137
>Doesn't matter.
It does when the conversation is about MJ becoming a superhero right after telling peter to fuck off for being a superhero.
>>83881075
see>>83881137
MJ not standing by PEter is still the consequence of the editorial line not wanting them together. They wrote her making that decision even for reason that were contradicted later because they want them to remain apart.
>>83880388
No. I want MJ to go and stay gone.
Someone should teleport Chat from her dimension so she and Peter can be together.
>>83880963
The aforementioned cutting ties happened right at the end of Superior Spider-Man. Peter explained what had happened to him, and rather than having any kind of compassion for what Peter had just been through (you know, dying and then watching his life be hijacked by fucking Dr Octopus) MJ literally said something along the lines of "Okay yeah I believe you, btw I don't want to even be around you anymore because your life is crazy cause you're Spider-Man. Later nerd"
Approximately 10 minutes later or so, she took a job as Iron Man's personal assistant.
>>83881175
It doesn't matter how the decision was made. It fucking happened. You can't just have a character go back on some shit like that without being called on it.
>>83881108
Basically Peter died briefly and Mephisto was teasing him about the deal he doesnt quite remember
>>83881174
>right after telling peter to fuck off for being a superhero.
Once again, the only reason she told that is because the editorial line is to not have them together. They made her said a BD reason that later writers didn't care about because it was stupid (and they were right).
>>83880675
>You mean like 2?
Think there's currently 3 anon. Spider-Gwen, Spider-Woman, and Silk. If there's another one memory eludes me.
Only if she's doing it as Red Sonja.
>>83881151
I mean the Deadpool thing
>>83881221
Arent they laying the groundwork to bring Spider Gwen into the 616 universe or something? She certainly isnt doing anything in her solo book thats for sure
>>83880675
>Writer is Slott
>Artist is Ramos
So a guy who hates MJ and the guy they hire when they want an assload of medium quality art in a very short amount of time. No thanks.
>>83881217
Dude, keep saying that all you want, but the writers involved still chose to have MJ act like a total cunt and then immediately turn heel and go back on what she said.
>>83881210
You can give it a pass when it's the writer/editorial deicsion thta make her act out of character for the sake of a certain status quo.
there is time when you can blame the writers, other times when you blame the writer/edition.
It's not MJ who is an hypocrite, it's just contrived writing to maintain the anti-marriage wish.
>and rather than having any kind of compassion for what Peter had just been through (you know, dying and then watching his life be hijacked by fucking Dr Octopus) MJ literally said something along the lines of "Okay yeah I believe you, btw I don't want to even be around you anymore because your life is crazy cause you're Spider-Man. Later nerd"
I know, and this out of character attitude was to maintain the marriage breaking. This is Out of Chartacter and just there to follow the editorial line. The only reason it exist is so that they don't get back together and that's it.
>>83881217
>the only reason she told that is because the editorial line is to not have them together
You could literally say "the only reason she told that is because the writer wanted her to" makes no difference. She said it and she's a shittier person for it.
>>83881289
>but the writers involved still chose to have MJ act like a total cunt and then immediately turn heel and go back on what she said.
Yes, and this is why it's called bad writing and editor meddling.
If you want an in-story reason, Satan made her act like that to prevent them from getting back together.
Don't blame MJ, blame Satan.
Anything that prevent MJ and Peter to be back together is Satan's fault.
>>83881273
I honestly don't know if they're doing that or just silently erasing her from existing given the whole "no more powers" thing.
>>83880699
This. The Amazing Spider-Spouses would be a fun, sexy, funny team if Peter and MJ's past interactions are anything to go on. Maybe we could get some emotional depth in there by having two people have a meaningful fucking conversation in a non-ultimate spider comic for once in ten years.
>>83881306
You can't magically separate the writing of a character and the character. Its just who she is now and it was a shitty thing to say/do.
>>83881308
>She said it and she's a shittier person for it.
She didn't said it. Satan made her said it.
fuck. Imagine that from now on. Batman become a pedophile. Do you blame Batman for being an awful Child molester, or do you blame the writer for making him act so?
>>83881215
Ah I see. I think that'd be Mephisto just being a dick. I don't think they could pull that agreement back unless they seel Aunt May directly to him.
>>83881306
MJ isn't real. The way she acts does come from writers and editorial but the way they wrote her determines the way we view her. In this it's as a hypocrite
>>83881382
>You can't magically separate the writing of a character and the character
When magic is literally involved you kinda can.
and while sometime it's hard to make the distinction, there is other times when it's clear the writer is making one act out of characters because reason.
in the case of MJ and Peter, any BS that prevent them from being together is clear editorial BS. That's a situation that is crystal clear.
>>83881386
>Do you blame Batman for being an awful Child molester, or do you blame the writer for making him act so?
Both. Batman can't jump out of the story and say "it wasn't me."
>>83881350
>Spider couple dynamic duo
Fuck I would actually read that. MJ being the straightwoman to Peter and all that. But Marvel isnt exactly known for happy relationships so....
>>83881432
>When magic is literally involved you kinda can.
Writing is not magic. Writing about magic is not magic. No matter how much you dislike it
>>83881412
So, if Batman turns out to be a Pedophile all along, he was a child molester and its on him. You can't blame that solely on the writer?
>>83881382
This.
Also, it'd be one thing if there was like, one book where a writer made MJ act out of character and retarded. Then you just dismiss bad writing. But she has literally been written this way now for over a decade. At some point you have to admit that Marvel has turned her into a bad character. Which isn't to say she couldn't be saved by good writers in the future, but right now that is her character. She is a cunt.
>>83881473
>>83881432
I didn't finish
No matter how much you dislike it the characters are only who they are on the page. Nothing you think can change that.
>>83881394
Are we really losing anything if we drop Aunt May? Personally I think after Peter moves on from the high school era he should be allowed to lose her
>>83881444
But it wasn't him. it' was bad writing.
>>83881432
Are you actually autistic?
>>83881485
Outside of wanting to get out of Peter's life, what bad thing did she do?
>>83881512
He is the writing. No matter how bad it is.
>>83881503
If OMD had ended with the Mephisto deal not happening and May dead, it would have been a good comic. Back in Black was fucking amazing. We weren't just given a bad story with OMD, we were actively denied a good one.
>>83881473
>>83881485
>>83881502
Except that they liteerally made deal with Mephisto to not get together.
Meaning that in-story, anything that prevent them form being together is due TO Mephisto making them act out of character, it's still not their fault.
>>83881484
Editorial wouldn't let that through.
>>83881533
Did it like a cunt, and was a giant hypocrite about it, the thing people have been saying this whole time.
>>83881515
No. But blaming on a character a contrived attitude forced by editorial lines seems uncalled for.
>>83881568
I don't recall any stipulations that say they couldn't get back together.
>>83881595
So that's' the only thing.
And again, the reason she acted like that is Mephisto.
this is not something she can be blamed for.
>>83881568
Dude I gotta know, what retarded shit country are you from? The weirdly broken english mixed with absolutely batshit stupid ideas about the characterization of comic book characters has me really curious.
>>83881624
Their marriage. They sold it.
Getting back together would cancel the deal.
>>83881597
Characters aren't real people.
>>83881628
>And again, the reason she acted like that is Mephisto.
There's nothing in comics that says this. Stop saying this.
>>83881533
She's a hypocrite, that's not a positive trait. She also unduly shits on Peter because Marvel thinks shitting on him shows that she's somehow more "Mature" than him.
>>83881628
No, the reason she acted like that was DAN FUCKING SLOTT. And the reason she is continuing to act like that is BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS.
And since those guys currently get to decide who Mary Jane Watson is as a person, THAT IS WHO SHE CURRENTLY IS AS A PERSON.
>>83881484
False equivalency. If Batman were to take down a pedophile ring and speak out about how terrible they were then a few issues later molest Damien then it'd be similar
>>83881651
>Getting back together would cancel the deal.
It'd be a different marriage. Hell maybe hey don't get married at all.
>>83881635
It's not stupid, really. There are times where you can't blame character for the stupid handling of of a character. Just like Bendis with Scarlet Witch.
>>83881597
Think shitting on Mary jane for being a hypocritical bitch as a way for us to draw attention on how badly editorial is using her.
>>83881257
Agree but called something else
>>83881694
Nobody is denying that MJ is the way she is because of bad writing.
But you are actively trying to argue as though she is a real person who has character traits beyond what we are shown in the materials she appears in.
>>83881659
>There's nothing in comics that says this
There is the whole OMD issue that made it they couldn't be together.
>She's a hypocrite, that's not a positive trait.
Again, this is an editorial line forced on her because they don't want them together.
>And since those guys currently get to decide who Mary Jane Watson is as a person, THAT IS WHO SHE CURRENTLY IS AS A PERSON.
Writing that disregard previous characterisation should be prone to being disregarded as well.
>>83881694
Answer the question, Pajeet.
>>83880675
>Being stuck in the echo chamber that is every Spidey thread made me forget that there's a good chunk of people who don't like her
Fuck you. I love Mary Jane. She and Peter are my OTP. The way they have absolutely fucked up her character post-BONG makes me upset.
>>83881731
>But you are actively trying to argue as though she is a real person
>>83881731
I am not.
>who has character traits beyond what we are shown in the materials she appears in.
She has characters traits that have been established for decades and that are outright being ignored.
This is based on that backbone that I consider that one time she dished out Peter to be an Out of Character moment.
Only if she had a symbiote and they bonded over their love for Peter.
>>83881694
See: >>83881382
Characters aren't real people do you understand that? They are only what they're written to be. No matter how much you don't like it the writers decide who they are not you.
>>83881751
>There is the whole OMD issue that made it they couldn't be together.
Nothing ever says mephisto is changing how they think and act.
>this is an editorial line forced on her because they don't want them together.
See above.
>Writing that disregard previous characterisation should be prone to being disregarded as well.
Well, we can only wait until then. I pray for the day Black Cat is back to her old self.
>>83881792
But it's not a moment, she's been acting this way since the first time she showed up again post-BONG. At some point you have to let go and acknowledge that this is the was she is now. It's stupid, but it's still real.
>>83881792
>She has characters traits that have been established for decades and that are outright being ignored.
Welcome to capeshit. Enjoy your stay.
>>83881799
Yknow, this just made me realize something. The real reason all the girls go crazy over Nightwing and Spider-man are because Dick and Peter are both slang for penis.
>>83881816
I meant about the country of origin, obviously. I still want to know where his autistic typing habits come from.
Look just ditch the Parker Industries thing, have her quit Stark, and have a Spidey/Iron Spider team up book. Thats literally the only way people would care about MJ right now
>>83880388
If Gwen Stacy has 2 superheroes titles and none of them was based of 616 personalities. Then why not MJ?
>>83881818
>I pray for the day Black Cat is back to her old self.
Also X-23. God I hate everything.
>>83881818
>Characters aren't real people do you understand that? They are only what they're written to be. No matter how much you don't like it the writers decide who they are not you.
see>>83881792
I am simply stating that bad writing that contradict character traits onthat were strongly established in the past on a whim, just for the sake of making the readers feel for PEter shouldn't be accounted for, especially wen there is a in-story reason as for why they can't be together.
>Nothing ever says mephisto is changing how they think and act.
If it's about cancelling their marriage, he has a say on anything that would allow them to be back together.
>>83881866
I'd honestly prefer to keep Parker Industries, but take Peter out of the day-to-day operations and put someone else (like MJ) in charge so he can do his Spidey thing without any complications.
We'll never get that, because Marvel thinks Spider-Man only works as a perpetual fuckup though.
>>83881832
>she's been acting this way since the first time she showed up again post-BONG.
Well, that kind of back my point. they write her out of character everytime there is an opportunity for them to be back together.
You can't balm on a character the shitty writing.
>>83881865
Belgium, but the shitty typing is me trying to answer fast.
>>83881922
Right now hes just running his business into the ground and jeopardizing the careers of his employees. Oh and the "Spider Man is my bodyguard" thing is retarded. It didnt work for Iron Man, it doesnt work here
>>83881907
>If it's about cancelling their marriage, he has a say on anything that would allow them to be back together.
What do you base that on? As far as I've read it was a one time deal. Where do you get that Mehpisto is constantly meddling in their lives?
>>83882022
>What do you base that on?
On the fact that Quesada don't want them together? I mean, we are getting a bit meta, there, but Mephisto will is Quesada's will. It's not hard to get.
>>83882022
His waifu Mary Jane whispers it into his ear every night in his dreams, anon.
>>83882022
>Where do you get that Mehpisto is constantly meddling in their lives?
Not constantly. Only when they might get together again.
>>83882064
So you're trying to rationalize by making up bullshit plot points.
>>83882022
>As far as I've read it was a one time deal.
So, you think Joe Quesada made them break up so that they could be back on dating each other again?
>>83882111
No, I am rationalizing by not ignoring there was clear editorial meddling that the story directly reflect.
>>83882102
So your justification for her ABSOLUTELY CONSTANTLY acting like a total fucking tool is just because she is literally ALWAYS within one second of just falling onto Peter's dick, then. Because it's not just a series of a few events we're talking about here, Sven. It's HER ENTIRE CHARACTER FOR THE LAST NEARLY 10 YEARS. And yes it's bad fucking writing, we know. But the bad writing is canon, and your fuzzy headcanon is not.
>>83881979
>they write her out of character everytime there is an opportunity for them to be back together.
When they have written her out of characters for ten years you have to realize that that is her character now.
>>83880388
I would read a series where she discovers Peter sold their unborn child to the devil and vowels to ruin him. I would read the fuck out of that.
I just can not see Spiderman as a good guy anymore. Fucking One More Day.
>>83882208
>So your justification for her ABSOLUTELY CONSTANTLY acting like a total fucking tool
I thought she only acted like a tool once when she dished Peter off, when else did she act badly?
What else did she do?
>>83882239
Anon, Jason Todd isn't an edgelord, that's just editorial meddling left over from COIE.
>>83882144
>>83882179
Its fine if you have your fanfiction anon we all deal with character assassinations in different ways.
But the only point I'm trying to make is that characters aren't any more than how they're written no matter what the meta reasons are or how much we don't like it.
>>83882272
LITERALLY EVERYTHING. Every time she's appeared since OMD/BND has been a series of her acting like a piece of shit to Peter. That moment was just the crown jewel of the shit tiara they've had her wearing this whole time.
>>83882265
>Peter sold their unborn child to the devil and vowels to ruin him.
So, you're saying she would be a consonant threat?
>>83882265
She did that, not him.
>>83882265
Already have that going with Black Cat, over the stupidest reasons of having a ruined reputation.
>>83880388
Only if Campbell drew it
>>83882339
>Every time she's appeared since OMD/BND has been a series of her acting like a piece of shit to Peter.
So that's actually backing my point there.And >>83882208
>So your justification for her ABSOLUTELY CONSTANTLY acting like a total fucking tool is just because she is literally ALWAYS within one second of just falling onto Peter's dick, then. might actually be true, seeing that it's only when she interract with Peter that she is bad.
>>83882327
>But the only point I'm trying to make is that characters aren't any more than how they're written no matter what the meta reasons are or how much we don't like it.
They are also what they have been written in the past. And in this case, there was clear editorial meddling to make sure they do not get together. So yeah, when a character, who ONLY, EXCLUSIVELY act bad when it come to folow that one editor line (her and parker not being together) and is okay the rest of the time, then yes, you can objectively blame it on the writer alone, and not the character.
>>83882423
>She did that, not him.
What? No, it was Peter's "decision". (Mephisto only told him after they agreed).
>>83882405
hahaha, you got me. That was pretty good.
>>83882493
>They are also what they have been written in the past
Not when that version of them has been actively swept under the rug by the people who decide who they are.
>>83882493
>They are also what they have been written in the past.
Sure. In those particular stories. These aren't those stories.
>>83882541
>>83882544
The fact is, she only act bad when interacting with Peter.
Once you acknowledge that the only reason she act like this is so they don't get back together (as well as convincing the readers she is not good for Peter), you can't really hold her character responsible.
>>83880388
Well I read Spider-Girl from the beginning almost all the way through to the end, so I clearly have no problem with female spider-heroes.
My bigger concern is the story arc being written well. If it's set in another universe where MJ was bitten by a radioactive spider and she relies on geeky childhood friend Peter to keep her life normal and sane? Yeah, that sounds pretty good and could work out well. If it is a FemThor story arc where Peter is suddenly de-spidered and MJ is running around with his powers? Then I don't really have much hope for it. And no amount of cute redhead freckle faces is going to encourage me otherwise.
>>83882519
Can someone kill Mephisto?
>>83882493
>They are also what they have been written in the past
The past doesn't actually affect the future in writing you know that right?
>>83882586
>you can't really hold her character responsible.
Yeah. I can. Cause that's how she's being written. There's nothing else to blame because a character is not its own entity.
>>83882620
We could call Dr Strange....
>>83882620
Yeah. He's not that powerful in the scheme of things. Its a wonder no one has pushed his shit in yet.
>>83882646
>The past doesn't actually affect the future in writing you know that right?
But it establish characterisation
>There's nothing else to blame because a character is not its own entity.
You can actually blame bad writing, actually. And give a pass on a character for being poorly handed. If an heel turn is done solely for chock and value and is poorly handed, it's really the writer fault and calling the character a monster for what he did become a bit void of should an sense. If it is well written and brought with style, then yes, it's completely on the character.
A good writer give soul to a character, and if he fail to do that, then it's just a puppet.
Add to that there there is a literal deal with Mephisto prventing them from being together and really any shitty interaction with peter can't be blamed on MJ.
>>83882818
>But it establish characterisation.
Which the writer can change.
>>83882818
>You can actually blame bad writing, actually.
Characters aren't anything more than writing. The two can't be separated.
> A good writer give soul to a character, and if he fail to do that, then it's just a puppet.
All characters are puppets. They are just words and pictures on a page. They don't have souls and aren't real.
people.
>Add to that there there is a literal deal with Mephisto prventing them from being together and really any shitty interaction with peter can't be blamed on MJ.
see >>83882327
>>83880388
No, but I would buy a monthly that was all about Pete sucking on MJ's tits.Not even kidding.
>>83880388
Shit, I would WRITE it. I've had an idea kicking around in my head about her being Dr. Strange's assistant for a while.My pitch got rejected though
>>83883434
>I've had an idea kicking around in my head about her being Dr. Strange's assistant for a while.
Sounds familiar.
>>83881196
Get your meme waifu outta here
>>83881196
I honestly wouldn't doubt it if this Peter ended up as an inheritor snack.
>>83880388
No. Why would I ever give two shits about her?
>>83880388
Only if she doesn't try to shit all over Peter (like she has been doing recently) and recognizes that she is being a fucking hypocritical bitch for choosing such a career.
But knowing Marvel (the worst publisher on Earth) they probably will find a guy to castrate and emasculate Peter because that get female readers and angers the idiotic Marvel fanbase (that is so used to taste of shit, they started to crave it).
>>83882599
>If it is a FemThor story arc where Peter is suddenly de-spidered and MJ is running around with his powers? Then I don't really have much hope for it. And no amount of cute redhead freckle faces is going to encourage me otherwise.
This.
>>83883887
He isn't edgy enough to survive Slott's fanfic.
>>83885532
Yes, that's what I said. Thanks for affirming it.
>>83880388
Of course I would buy a comic about superhero MJ!
But I would also buy a comic about regular MJ going about her ordinary life doing regular things like her taxes, so I am biased.
>>83880388
What should her superhero name be?
Spider-Woman, Spider-Girl, Arachne, Silk, Black Widow, and Red Widow are all taken.
Scarlet Spider is free
I suggest Red Back
>>83887496
I know there's a wolf spider, but are there any spiders assosciated with tigers? That could play well with her catchphrase.
>>83887496
Costume should be white with neon green highlights, and name should be appropriate to her origin.
"How did you get your powers, Spider-Man?"
"Bit by a radioactive spider."
"Ah, thus the red and blue spider motif costume. And you, Mary Jane?"
"Married to Mr. Radioactive Jizz there. Call me Bug Chaser."
I think I might but I wouldn't want her to be spider themed
>>83881394
May is dying in the last Amazing Spider-man issue, and in that issue there was a lot of Peter and MJ interaction with Tony and he remembering pre OMD stuff.
Mephisto fucked up by messing with Peter again, that was part of the deal, you don't fuck with him anymore said MJ.
Too many spidergirls, they need to stop this shit.
>>83880388
YES, lets end that "Muggle-lover" trope for good!
>>83880388
Depends, is she just MJ with Peter's powers and a diffrent costume? Because if that's what it is then no, but if MJ is using the Iron Spider suit to allow her to be a support her and a minor street level hero, then sure. I would really like a story where MJ gets to be the super hero and see what it's like to be in Peter's webs.
>>83888513
Too many Spider people in total
Peter, Miles, Miguel, the entire team of Web Warriors
>>83888989
I kind of like the crazy amount of spiders right now, sort of feels like a Marvel Bat Family, I just wish we had a Peter and Miles team up book.
>>83888989
To be fair, most of the cast of web-warriors are alternate universe spiders, There's alternate versions of pretty much everyone, just that they're next to never big enough to make it into 616 or their own multiversal adventuring comics.
Only if she has the big MJ sized boobs.
So is there any way we can salvage this idea?
>>83890639
>don't let Slott write it
>don't let Bendis write it
Let Thompson write it, he took Silk and made her good, he took Space Venom and made it good.
>>83891602
>Space Knight Venom
>Good
How? Its kind of hard to pick up from bastardizing the entire symbiote origin. As for Silk she has the unfortunate case of being spider girl #4282 and left in Spider Gwens shadow, even though Gwen's book sucks.
>>83891971
Honestly, as a fan of Venom ever since I was a kid, the whole Klyntar thing didn't really trigger me as much as it did others, while it's presentation sucks because Bendis couldn't write you instructions on how ro escape a paper bag, the idea of it leaves symbiotes as a whole open for more diverse stories.
>>83892124
Its one of those things that are better left unexplored really
>>83881208
More like a year later. That was at the end of Superior, and that occurred post Secret Wars.
>>83892194
We're getting off track, the point I was trying to make is that Thompson could write Iron Spider-Maiden better than Slott or Bendis, and that's how we salvage this idea.
I don't want to make a new thread about this so I'm gonna ask here since it is Spider-Man related.
Does the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon get good? Those first couple episodes are so brutal so I am hoping it tones down some.
>>83892391
It's very hit or miss. I'd go so far as to say its 95% miss.And this is from someone that's watched every single episode ever made.
>>83892391
No, hes essentially fucking Deadpool
>>83892463
>>83892486
That's a shame, I was originally excited because I enjoyed the Ultimate Spider-Man comics but was horrified when I saw the first episode. Maybe I'll just rewatch the 90s one since I recently found my figures from childhood.
>>83892124
The whole idea of turning symbiotes into fucking green lanterns really belittles their effectiveness to get the job done, especially considering there was a whole planet of corrupt symbiotes. It was just a bad idea all around. Bendis is full of those.
>female-lead comic
Yeah, no.
So we just calling her Iron Spider? Seems like she just stole two characters shticks and neither makes any sense
